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BAMAPHIN 22
10-05-2005, 01:45 PM
1. Manny Ramirez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5132/), LF, Red Sox.

2. Alfonso Soriano (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6154/), 2B, Rangers.

3. Ken Griffey, CF, Reds.

4. Jim Thome (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/), 1B, Phillies.

5. Mike Lowell (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6133/), 3B, Marlins


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NJFINSFAN1
10-05-2005, 05:22 PM
Manny will be a Met!

Ray Finkle
10-05-2005, 06:27 PM
Manny will be a Met!

Ok give the Sox- David Wright, Jose Reyes, Lastings Milledge, and Yushiro Petit. If you won't do that then the Sox are crazy to trade Manny. I'm sorry but giving the Sox Carlos Beltran or Mike Cameron isn't good enough.

MikeO
10-05-2005, 08:37 PM
Ok give the Sox- David Wright, Jose Reyes, Lastings Milledge, and Yushiro Petit. If you won't do that then the Sox are crazy to trade Manny. I'm sorry but giving the Sox Carlos Beltran or Mike Cameron isn't good enough.

This is where Boston is screwed. They have no leverage with Manny. He doesn't like Boston. The Red Sox are tired with his games. They have to move him. Everyone knows it. The Red Sox won't get fair market value for him probably in my opinion.

If they could do Soriano for Manny straight up......that would be their best option. Fix their 2nd base problem.

SMadison29
10-05-2005, 08:40 PM
Soriano would be a great option to hit 3rd ahead of Ortiz.

David Wright has a bright future so if they could get him, Mike Cameron, & a pitcher they should jump on it. Cameron would give them protection if Damon flees for the Yanks or Cubs.

Ray Finkle
10-05-2005, 09:29 PM
This is where Boston is screwed. They have no leverage with Manny. He doesn't like Boston. The Red Sox are tired with his games. They have to move him. Everyone knows it. The Red Sox won't get fair market value for him probably in my opinion.

If they could do Soriano for Manny straight up......that would be their best option. Fix their 2nd base problem.

The Sox have a good 2nd baseman in the minors who will probably be up in Fenway in the middle of the year. I don't want Soriano on the Sox. I know he's a GREAT hitter but I'd rather just keep Manny instead. Plus Soriano at 2nd base would be a scary site especially playing his home games in Fenway where the field is less then perfect.

MikeO
10-05-2005, 09:44 PM
The Sox have a good 2nd baseman in the minors who will probably be up in Fenway in the middle of the year. I don't want Soriano on the Sox. I know he's a GREAT hitter but I'd rather just keep Manny instead. Plus Soriano at 2nd base would be a scary site especially playing his home games in Fenway where the field is less then perfect.

You guys and your minor league players.

MANNY DOESN'T WANT TO BE THERE! THEY DON'T WANT MANNY! Once you come to deal with that, then you will understand he must be moved.

I don't know where you were in late July for a week Manny and his Boston history came out as page 1 front page news for a week, but the franchise is sick of him. And he hates the city and rabid fans who make his life hell outside the ballpark. He won't be there next year. So this, let's just keep Manny isn't even an option anymore

Ray Finkle
10-05-2005, 09:49 PM
You guys and your minor league players.

MANNY DOESN'T WANT TO BE THERE! THEY DON'T WANT MANNY! Once you come to deal with that, then you will understand he must be moved.

I don't know where you were in late July for a week Manny and his Boston history came out as page 1 front page news for a week, but the franchise is sick of him. And he hates the city and rabid fans who make his life hell outside the ballpark. He won't be there next year. So this, let's just keep Manny isn't even an option anymore

We have a good system and a bunch of very highly ranked players for the first time before 1975. I'm sure if you were on the internet in 94/95 you'd be saying the same thing about the Yankees with Jeter, Rivera, Mendoza, Pettite etc on the horizon (and no I'm not comparing the Sox minor leaguers to the Yankee players)

Manny doesn't want to be here? Manny says 13 million times through out the season. Manny said he didn't want to be in Boston and then a week later said he loved it here and didn't want to play anywhere else because the fans just love him and he loves them. I don't take ANYTHING Manny says seriously. I don't even think Manny knows what he wants.

Yes there are a few members of the Front Office who don't like Manny and his attitude but utlimately since he's a 10/5 guy he controls his own fate. If he really wants out then he'll go.

MikeO
10-05-2005, 09:51 PM
No team wins a world series with minor league players. You can brag about your minor league players, but they won't be factors for 3-5 years. You wanna wait that long?

Ray Finkle
10-05-2005, 09:56 PM
No team wins a world series with minor league players. You can brag about your minor league players, but they won't be factors for 3-5 years. You wanna wait that long?

No kidding no team wins a World Series with minor league players. But we have guys that will fill in when other players retire/leave the team. The players I'm talking about are 2 years away maximum. For example:

Jon Papelbon is up already
Craig Hansen up already
Dustin Pedroia up start of 2006 season/middle
John Lester (lefty starter) is projected to be up by August 2006
Hanley Ramirez up by middle 2006 or start of 2007
Anibal Sanchez up by 2007

(Note these are all guys highly reguarded by writers and scouts, they could turn into crap in the major league if they make it but there's a lot of reasons to like these kids. I've seen many of them play and they're pretty good).

finfansince72
10-06-2005, 08:21 AM
The Sox don't need to trade Manny. He performs well happy or not, the Sox win with him, theres no reason to dump him for a couple of minor leaguers and a decent player or pitcher. Hes one of the best hitters of this generation without question, you dont trade him because he gets upset for a week. Manny is Manny, Manny will always be Manny. The only reason to trade Manny is because he will probaly leave as a free agent when that time comes, in the meantime hes just too good to dump. Someone is going to have to pony up to get him, the Sox GM isnt stupid.

MikeO
10-06-2005, 08:22 AM
The Sox don't need to trade Manny. He performs well happy or not, the Sox win with him, theres no reason to dump him for a couple of minor leaguers and a decent player or pitcher. Hes one of the best hitters of this generation without question, you dont trade him because he gets upset for a week. Manny is Manny, Manny will always be Manny. The only reason to trade Manny is because he will probaly leave as a free agent when that time comes, in the meantime hes just too good to dump. Someone is going to have to pony up to get him, the Sox GM isnt stupid.

This MANNY WILL BE MANNY thing gets old. Doesn't run out ground balls. Takes days off. Always a distraction. I think Boston has had enough.

In fact I would bet he isn't back next year. Anyone want to take that bet? Name the price. We send the money to AJ or MUCK to hold they can then send it to the winner.

finfansince72
10-06-2005, 08:27 AM
Cmon, pro sports are full of primadonnas that take plays off, ask for days off, get benefits other players don't. Manny isnt so different from a lot of guys. I dont see him having any trouble with the other players, hes a popular guy. He puts up period, hes one of the best in the game theres no question about it, a ton of teams would love to have him warts and all. The only thing that holds back teams from trading a lot for him is that he makes a zillion dollars, he does put up on the field.

phunwin
10-06-2005, 09:41 AM
Ok give the Sox- David Wright, Jose Reyes, Lastings Milledge, and Yushiro Petit. If you won't do that then the Sox are crazy to trade Manny. I'm sorry but giving the Sox Carlos Beltran or Mike Cameron isn't good enough.

Time to lay off the sauce, Ray. :drinker:

phunwin
10-06-2005, 09:45 AM
If they could do Soriano for Manny straight up......that would be their best option. Fix their 2nd base problem.

I think the Rangers would giggle and hang up at that offer. Never mind the fact that they're already stacked in the OF; they dealt A-Rod, the best player in baseball, because they didn't want to pay him $25 million a year. It seems highly unlikely that they'll take on a guy with Manny's shortcomings at $20 million a year.

If Manny's traded, it'll be to the Mets. For what, I'm not sure. Probably Cameron and a top prospect, be it Milledge or Petit. The Mets aren't ready to give up on Beltran, and Ramirez's advancing age, defensive problems (playing off The Monster hides a lot) and general wackiness...and oh yeah, $60 million over the next 3 years, make it hard for me to believe they'll get much more than that.

MikeO
10-06-2005, 11:02 AM
I think the Rangers would giggle and hang up at that offer. Never mind the fact that they're already stacked in the OF; they dealt A-Rod, the best player in baseball, because they didn't want to pay him $25 million a year. It seems highly unlikely that they'll take on a guy with Manny's shortcomings at $20 million a year.

If Manny's traded, it'll be to the Mets. For what, I'm not sure. Probably Cameron and a top prospect, be it Milledge or Petit. The Mets aren't ready to give up on Beltran, and Ramirez's advancing age, defensive problems (playing off The Monster hides a lot) and general wackiness...and oh yeah, $60 million over the next 3 years, make it hard for me to believe they'll get much more than that.

A-Rods deal goes on forever. Manny's deal is almost over. BIG difference.

I agree on the part of going to the Mets though.

MikeO
10-06-2005, 11:04 AM
Cmon, pro sports are full of primadonnas that take plays off, ask for days off, get benefits other players don't. Manny isnt so different from a lot of guys. I dont see him having any trouble with the other players, hes a popular guy. He puts up period, hes one of the best in the game theres no question about it, a ton of teams would love to have him warts and all. The only thing that holds back teams from trading a lot for him is that he makes a zillion dollars, he does put up on the field.

In late July/early August when your team is in the hunt for the playoffs and fighting for their lives, you don't REFUSE to play a game when your manager says go play the outfield. There is a difference.

QB2RonnieTD23
10-06-2005, 03:29 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if the Mets got Manny AND Soriano, in fact i hope they do. I want to see how bad the Mets can SUCK when they have a 200 MILLION DOLLAR PAY-ROLE!

phunwin
10-06-2005, 08:07 PM
A-Rods deal goes on forever. Manny's deal is almost over. BIG difference.

I agree on the part of going to the Mets though.

That's true, but Ramirez will be 34 next season, with 3 years left on his deal. Rodriguez will be 30 next year, with 6 years left on his deal. In terms of which is a better long-term investment, it's really a wash from that POV (both guys will be 37 when their deals expire). And since the Rangers wanted to move Rodriguez, it makes me believe they wouldn't want Ramirez, for many of the same reasons.

phunwin
10-06-2005, 08:07 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if the Mets got Manny AND Soriano, in fact i hope they do. I want to see how bad the Mets can SUCK when they have a 200 MILLION DOLLAR PAY-ROLE!

Um, yeah. And how is that Jim Thome contract working out?

FinsNYanksFan13
10-06-2005, 08:12 PM
The Mets payroll is going to balloon no doubt. With the new network their going to make a nice chunk of change!

phunwin
10-06-2005, 08:16 PM
It won't balloon too much. With Piazza's $17 million coming off the books, and the high probability that they're trading the $7M salary of Mike Cameron, there will be a lot of payroll to play with. They might not need to increase the payroll much at all.

MikeO
10-06-2005, 08:50 PM
That's true, but Ramirez will be 34 next season, with 3 years left on his deal. Rodriguez will be 30 next year, with 6 years left on his deal. In terms of which is a better long-term investment, it's really a wash from that POV (both guys will be 37 when their deals expire). And since the Rangers wanted to move Rodriguez, it makes me believe they wouldn't want Ramirez, for many of the same reasons.

In the 1st A-Rod deal the Rangers TOOK Manny from Boston. Now, 2 years later I am sure they would jump to take Manny again.

Ray Finkle
10-06-2005, 11:13 PM
Rumor has it that Manny has apparently in the process of hiring Scott Boras. So this adds a lot of fuel to the fire of him not being back with the Sox. This could turn into a very crappy winter for Sox fans. If they trade Manny Ramirez then they lose their 2 best hitters in their line-up. Because David Ortiz will never see another pitch to hit for the rest of his career. Just say no Theo. :fire: