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BAMAPHIN 22
10-13-2005, 11:13 AM
Almost certain he's stepping down after 10 years as New York Yankees (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/yankees) pitching coach, Mel Stottlemyre had harsh words Wednesday for George Steinbrenner and the owner's treatment of manager Joe Torre.

Speaking in the Yankees clubhouse where he's spent 21 seasons as a player and coach, Stottlemyre said he interpreted Steinbrenner's statement following the Yankees' elimination by the Los Angeles Angels (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/angels) as a slap at Torre. Steinbrenner said Tuesday: "I congratulate the Angels and their manager on the great job they've done."

"I laughed when I saw it," Stottlemyre said. "My first thoughts were, `What about Joe? Joe had done a hell of a job, too.' To congratulate the other manager and not congratulate your own after what he'd done this year, I laughed."

A Yankees coach since Torre took over as manager following the 1995 season, Stottlemyre criticized the schism between the team's New York and Tampa, Fla., offices and said Torre's job status shouldn't be questioned.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/10/12/bc.bba.yankees.stottlemyre.ap/index.html

NJFINSFAN1
10-13-2005, 11:26 AM
It's going to be a different team next year. They will trade Sheff, he is the only guy worth something! Nobody can afford AROD.

Motion
10-13-2005, 11:38 AM
They need to re-sign Matsui, Get a good young center fielder, and get at least 2 more solid pitchers. I can see Posada going too.

Anyone know if they have Small, Chacon, and Wang signed long term? If not they need too quick.

NJFINSFAN1
10-13-2005, 11:43 AM
The rumor up here is the Boss is really not doing well (sick) and that the Tampa people are running the team.

phunwin
10-13-2005, 12:15 PM
Remember that Don Zimmer took some shots at Steinbrenner & Co. on the way out, too. When Torre leaves, I wonder if he'll do the same. I doubt it, but who knows?

The Tampa mob running the team is the best thing that could happen for Yankee-haters (like me). They're constantly at odds with the soon-to-be-departed Brian Cashman, who's the only guy keeping that team from circling the drain.

phunwin
10-13-2005, 12:23 PM
By the way, let's clarify something.

This man is "The Boss":
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

This man is "George Steinbrenner":
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Let's not confuse the two again, mmmkay? :)

NJFINSFAN1
10-13-2005, 12:37 PM
By the way, let's clarify something.

This man is "The Boss":
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

This man is "George Steinbrenner":
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Let's not confuse the two again, mmmkay? :)

I'm one NJ guy that does not like the boss! (Springsteen that is)

Ray Finkle
10-13-2005, 01:07 PM
The Tampa mob running the team is the best thing that could happen for Yankee-haters (like me). They're constantly at odds with the soon-to-be-departed Brian Cashman, who's the only guy keeping that team from circling the drain.

Hey the best thing for non-Yankee fans would be the exit of Joe Torre and the entering of Lou Pinella. That would be certain doom for the Yankees.

AggieFin21
10-13-2005, 02:38 PM
Hey the best thing for non-Yankee fans would be the exit of Joe Torre and the entering of Lou Pinella. That would be certain doom for the Yankees.

Right on time Ray, bashing the Yanks as usual.....:D

MikeO
10-13-2005, 03:45 PM
Sheffield to Toronto for Vernon Wells. RUMOR going around.

Ray Finkle
10-13-2005, 04:38 PM
Sheffield to Toronto for Vernon Wells. RUMOR going around.

That actually wouldn't be a bad trade for the Yankees. I think Wells is a very good player and CFer. However I don't understand why the Jays would want Sheffield. Also Sheff has said in the summer that he'd retire before he got traded.

MikeO
10-13-2005, 04:39 PM
That actually wouldn't be a bad trade for the Yankees. I think Wells is a very good player and CFer. However I don't understand why the Jays would want Sheffield. Also Sheff has said in the summer that he'd retire before he got traded.

Sheff isn't going to retire and walk away from that kind of money. Don't fall for that one. Sheff wants a new contract any team that gives him that he will be happy with. Toronto is going to spend some money this offseason. Look for them to add AJ Burnett and a big hitter (like Sheff)

Ray Finkle
10-13-2005, 04:45 PM
Sheff isn't going to retire and walk away from that kind of money. Don't fall for that one. Sheff wants a new contract any team that gives him that he will be happy with. Toronto is going to spend some money this offseason. Look for them to add AJ Burnett and a big hitter (like Sheff)

Don't you think that the Jays would be better off to spend their money signing Wells long term (if they can)? Instead of trading him for an older player who's got 2 to 3 years left until he retires?

Hey if the Yankees make that trade it would be great for them. However I just don't see how or why the Jays would do that. I also think Burnett will be a Jay.

phunwin
10-13-2005, 04:54 PM
I'm one NJ guy that does not like the boss! (Springsteen that is)

NJ, I liked you right up until I read that. ;)

I dated a girl from Morristown for a fairly long time, and she didn't like The Boss, either. This would have HAD to make her the only girl in New Jersey who grew up in the 1980s that didn't like Springsteen. Should have taken that as my cue to get out.


Sheffield to Toronto for Vernon Wells. RUMOR going around.

JP Ricciardi can't possibly be that stupid. Toronto wouldn't make that deal.

NJFINSFAN1
10-13-2005, 04:55 PM
NJ, I liked you right up until I read that. ;)

I dated a girl from Morristown for a fairly long time, and she didn't like The Boss, either. This would have HAD to make her the only girl in New Jersey who grew up in the 1980s that didn't like Springsteen. Should have taken that as my cue to get out.



JP Ricciardi can't possibly be that stupid. Toronto wouldn't make that deal.

:cry: Now I'm hurt!

Slappy8800
10-13-2005, 06:29 PM
yanks offer Matsui 3 year, 33 million dollar deal

Ray Finkle
10-13-2005, 06:45 PM
yanks offer Matsui 3 year, 33 million dollar deal

I'm sure Matsui will accept it. It's apparently a big honor to play for the Yankees in Japan. Also 11 million dollars a year isn't bad, I'd play for that much.

Ray Finkle
10-13-2005, 06:52 PM
Well according to the NY Post and rotoworld.com:

"The Yankees will try to keep GM Brian Cashman rather than allow him to depart when his contract expires on Oct. 31. "That's safe to say," Yankee general partner Steve Swindal said. "I have said that all along." Swindal, George Steinbrenner's son-in-law who is in line to take over when The Boss steps aside, will handle the talks with Cashman. Many believe Cashman is fed up working for an organization in which he has such limited control. If he leaves, the Phillies, Orioles and Nationals are among the teams that would be interested.""

Interesting, although you have to wonder if Cashman wants to return.

finfansince72
10-14-2005, 02:58 AM
They should let Isiah run the Yanks too. Hes good at having the leagues largest payroll and not winning the title. Heck he could even make the Yankees a non-playoff contender within a year easily.
Torre is a great manager and class guy, he deserves better from the Yanks.

Roman529
10-14-2005, 06:58 PM
Besides pitching, I thought the Yanks biggest problem was in centerfield....Bernie has had a very good career, but on defense he just doesn't cover much ground...I could see the Yankees going after a CF like Juan Pierre who did a great job covering Coors Field in Colorado, and a nice job for the Marlins. Sheff may be dealt as well...I think for a quality starting pitcher after Brown and the Big Unit get the axe. I would love to see Cashman become the GM for my Phils as Ed Wade sucked.

finfansince72
10-15-2005, 03:48 AM
Why are the Yankees going to axe the Big Unit?