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MikeO
10-31-2005, 06:43 PM
Cleaning out his desk right now.

Bad news for the rest of the teams in the AL. Theo was a terrible GM and Boston is better off today without him.

MikeO
10-31-2005, 06:52 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051031&content_id=1262921&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Link to the story

FaninPatsyLand
10-31-2005, 06:55 PM
I would have liked to see him come back. He's a young kid with alot promise, but he made alot of questionable decisions during his time here. (He also got bailed out by other teams on moves that would have been disasters)

Oh well... Thanks for Renteria you *******.

MikeO
10-31-2005, 06:57 PM
31 years old, $1.5 mill a year to be the GM in the best baseball town in America and he says no.

THEO IS NUTS! Nice guy, terrible GM, but absolutly NUTS!

FaninPatsyLand
10-31-2005, 07:05 PM
Yeah I don't understand why he's leaving. He grew up in Brookline and with the Sox offering 1.5 Million a year for him to come back, I figured it was a sure thing.

Unless of course it has to do with his relationship among members of the Front Office. After all, no one seems to get along with Larry Lucchino. I guess we'll find out more later..

MikeO
10-31-2005, 07:07 PM
Larry runs that team. He is calling the shots. I don't think Theo liked that.

Still, it isn't like Theo is some genius GM. He has made a bunch of bad moves and they still offered him $1.5 mill a year. That is more money than the manager makes and he won them a friggin world series.

You can be the GM for a team with an UNLIMITIED PAYROLL and be in the hunt every year. Now, he will end up with some low-level job in Pittsburgh, KC, or Tampa with a payroll capped off at $40 mill if your lucky, and he will never be heard from again.

Nice move genius!

FaninPatsyLand
10-31-2005, 07:15 PM
I wonder where they go from here... as long as DePodesta stays as far away from Boston as humanly possible.

I'm curious to find out what happened. If a diehard lifelong Red Sox fan doesn't want his dream job as GM, how the hell are we going to attract anyone to that position. I truely believe Lucchino was behind the scenes pulling some strings.

Theo must have been very unhappy..

MikeO
10-31-2005, 07:16 PM
I wonder where they go from here... as long as DePodesta stays as far away from Boston as humanly possible.

They mentioned that guy in SF, Sabian <sp>. That would be a BRILLIANT move. He is from New Hampshire. Maybe the best GM in all of baseball according to most. And I believe he is, the guy is brilliant.

Problem is Sabian loves the Bay area and is in a great position with the Giants and probably doesn't want to leave. Especially for a place like Boston where there is now obvious in-fighting and some serious back-stabbing going on in the front office.

RWhitney014
10-31-2005, 09:03 PM
I wonder where they go from here... as long as DePodesta stays as far away from Boston as humanly possible.

I'm curious to find out what happened. If a diehard lifelong Red Sox fan doesn't want his dream job as GM, how the hell are we going to attract anyone to that position. I truely believe Lucchino was behind the scenes pulling some strings.

Theo must have been very unhappy..

Two words: Gerry Hunsicker. Great GM. I'd try to get him if Beinfest stepped down.

Ray Finkle
11-01-2005, 12:59 AM
Larry and Mike Port ran the team and Theo was just the puppet. The fact that Theo had to get everything approved by Larry just proves it. And the fact that the Rockies were pissed at the Sox during the trading deadline when they traded Eric Byrnes for LArry Bigbie because the Rockies thought they were getting back Adam Stein and Kelly Shoppach but once Larry heard about it he axed it.

With that being said I hope the Sox go after Kevin Towers of San Diego. Larry and Kevin have ties going way back and I also happen to think that Towers is a very good GM (one of the top in baseball). Just picture what he could work with if he had money? I hope the Sox get that done.

I also think Brian Sabean would be a great move too. Either of the two are fine with me.

finfansince72
11-01-2005, 01:59 AM
This guy is dumb, 1.5 mill to be GM for a team with a huge payroll and a great fanbase? Ill do it for 1/4 of that and be just as good.

Ray Finkle
11-01-2005, 03:13 AM
This guy is dumb, 1.5 mill to be GM for a team with a huge payroll and a great fanbase? Ill do it for 1/4 of that and be just as good.

Theo has a major ego problem I guess and is on a power trip. I agree with everyone that he's completely nuts for stepping down.

I'm glad he's gone, if he's just dumb for turning down this type of money then I don't want him anywhere near my team. I guess Theo thought he was negotiating contracts with himself. After all he is the one that signed Clement and Renteria to big bucks and took back Millar. :lol:

PressCoverage
11-01-2005, 10:05 AM
i still feel renteria will improve.... but some players just can't adjust to our cubby hole locker room and rusting pee stalls in the club house....

RWhitney014
11-01-2005, 01:13 PM
Anyone think that maybe he was just tired or felt he already did the best job he could do? It could very well be about the money, in which case he was dumb, but there could be other reasons as well.

FaninPatsyLand
11-01-2005, 01:20 PM
I'll be the first to admit, if you are GM of the Red Sox it is impossible to live a normal life. EVERYONE in the city recognizes the local kid, Boston such a small city. Maybe all the attention just wore him down... Who knows?

As a Red Sox fan, I'm not so dissapointed. He's most definitely not irreplacable, and we're a JP Riccardi, Brian Sabean, Kevin Towers or Gerry Hunsicker from replacing Theo.

Now if we trade Manny, that's a whole different situation. Hey Marlins fans, Cabrera for Manny straight up? :D

FaninPatsyLand
11-01-2005, 01:24 PM
i still feel renteria will improve.... but some players just can't adjust to our cubby hole locker room and rusting pee stalls in the club house....

I have to disagree... he's not the same player he was in '03 when he drove in 100. He's had back to back awful years (Julio Lugo had a higher OPS than Edgar in 2004, that's why I'm not buying the adjustment to the AL), and the one constant with him was supposely his defense, it seems like that has slipped considerably.

I have a feeling the name Renteria is going to haunt all of Red Sox Nation for the next 3 years.

P.S. If Francona continues to slide him into the 2 hole next year, I'm gonna lose it. The guy has to be batting down in the lineup.

MikeO
11-01-2005, 08:08 PM
Anyone think that maybe he was just tired or felt he already did the best job he could do? It could very well be about the money, in which case he was dumb, but there could be other reasons as well.

Theo's "buddy" Billy Bean was offered $2.2 (or $2.5 depending on the source) to be the GM in Boston a few years back. Theo felt for being the GM of winning the teams first world series in 86 years, he should have got an offer like that. He didn't. He walked. Combine that with his rocky relationship with Larry and it just blew up this week.

MikeO
11-01-2005, 08:10 PM
I have to disagree... he's not the same player he was in '03 when he drove in 100. He's had back to back awful years (Julio Lugo had a higher OPS than Edgar in 2004, that's why I'm not buying the adjustment to the AL), and the one constant with him was supposely his defense, it seems like that has slipped considerably.

I have a feeling the name Renteria is going to haunt all of Red Sox Nation for the next 3 years.

P.S. If Francona continues to slide him into the 2 hole next year, I'm gonna lose it. The guy has to be batting down in the lineup.

With a new GM, if Francona doesn't do better than a 1st round loss in the playoffs, he won't be around after this year. I agree 100% with you on Edgar. I think next year he will be better than this past year (which isn't saying much) but I don't think he will live up to that contract.

Some players don't mix with some cities. I think this is a classic case of this with Edgar.

FIN-IN-RI
11-03-2005, 12:36 AM
He says;

"His heart and soul isn't in it anymore"

What a load of crap. I don't care that he's gone but you don't say things like that as a businessman looking for a new job in the same industry. :shakeno:

finfansince72
11-03-2005, 01:49 AM
I dont know but this guy really comes off as arrogant when you consider he was what 28 when he took the deal and now is 31? There arent very many guys his age that even would be considered for a GM position regardless of how talented they were. He was lucky as hell to have that job.

QB2RonnieTD23
11-03-2005, 06:19 PM
Boston could always hire ED WADE :lol:

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/cp/sports/20051010/s101042a.jpg

^ would you trust THAT man with 100 million dollars of talent? :rofl3: