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Buddwalk
11-08-2005, 06:24 PM
BUDDWALKS NOVEMBER MOCK DRAFT

1. Green Bay Packers - Reggie Bush RB USC
2. Houston Texans - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
3. Tennessee Titans - Matt Leinart QB USC
4. New Orleans Saints - AJ Hawk LB Ohio State
5. New York Jets - Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
6. Baltimore Ravens - Haloti Ngata DT Oregon
7. Minnesota Vikings - DeAngelo Williams RB
8. San Francisco 49ers - Mario Williams DE NC State
9. Miami Dolphins - Eric Winston OT Miami
10. Detroit Lions - Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin
11. Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB Iowa
12. Buffalo Bills - Mathias Kiwanaku DE Boston College
13. San Diego Chargers - Jonathan Scott OT Texas
14. Oakland Raiders - Ahmad Brooks LB Virginia
15. St Louis Rams - Tamba Hali DE Penn State
16. New England Patriots - Michael Huff S Texas
17. Philadelphia Eagles - Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
18. San Diego Chagers - Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State
19. Chicago Bears - Derek Hagan WR Arizona State
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt
21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Marcus McNeil OT Auburn
22. Kansas City Chiefs - Rodrique Wright DT Texas
23. Dallas Cowboys - Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
24. Denver Broncos - Mercedes Lewis TE UCLA
25. Carolina Panthers - DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama
26. Seattle Seahawks - Demetrius Williams WR Oregon
27. Atlanta Falcons - Daryn Colledge OT Boise State
28. Pittsburgh Steelers - Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)
29. Houston Texans - Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia
30. New York Giants - Charles Gordon CB Kansas
31. Cincinnati Bengals - Jesse Mahelona DT Tennessee
32. Indianapolis Colts - Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio State

*Vikings Trade Daunte Culpepper to Arizona Cardinals for 7th overall pick
*Vikings Trade 13th overall pick to San Diego for Philip Rivers
*Redskins Trade 24th overall pick to Broncos for last years Deal
*Denver Trades #29 overall for Houston Texans 2006 and 2007 2nd round picks

QB Brady Quinn [Teams playing for a national title next year...its a lock now thats weis is staying for sure]
QB Vince Young [Staying so he can have a shot at a national title before he leaves for the draft]
QB Omar Jacobs [Injured so he needs to rebuild his stock...could be a top 10 pick in 2007 Draft]
QB Sam Keller Arizona St. [If he has another great year he could project himself as the top qb]
QB Drew Stanton Michigan St. [He stays for his senior season to add a year of consistency and it will only help his draft stock]
QB Chris Leak Florida [He has to stay for his senior season and truely break out for him to get his stock talk back]
RB Michael Bush Louisville [If he has the same kinda year as he is now next year...then hes a first round lock]
RB Lendale White USC [With Reggie Bush gone, he'll be the focus of the offense and he could show the world that he isnt reggies crutch]
WR Chad Jackson Florida [Mainly staying to help Chris Leak out, and to build his stock going into next year as the #1 reciever in the country]

kastofsna120
11-08-2005, 07:01 PM
the jets' secondary is pretty young as it is, i don't think they'd take williams. maybe the OTHER williams, deangelo, as curtis martin isn't getting any younger

SF Dolphin Fan
11-08-2005, 07:11 PM
That's a pretty good mock. I like Scott better than Winston, but that's based on only a couple of games. Just looks like Scott moves better, kind of in the Richmond Webb mold (very athletic).

Let me ask you this. If Vince Young declares and he's there when Miami picks do you pull the trigger? The upside with him is so exciting, while admittedly he's also quite a risk.

I also like Huff, but #9 might be too high for him and Landry if he comes out (probably around 20 range). The Oregon DT Haloti could be awesome in the middle. Can you imagine him paired with Traylor for a year and with Wright, if he develops?

kastofsna120
11-08-2005, 07:22 PM
what is the exciting upside with young? i'd love to know

ether79
11-08-2005, 07:40 PM
what is the exciting upside with young? i'd love to know

Has great upside as a reciever.

SF Dolphin Fan
11-08-2005, 08:15 PM
what is the exciting upside with young? i'd love to know

He's just such an incredible athlete who has made big strides in his game, which bodes well. Yes, he needs a lot of work and has a high bust factor. But he has fantastic tools to work with and could turn out in the right system with the right coach. I'll say this for him, he seems to elevate his game when his teams needs it most -- although it is mostly with his running the ball.

Personally, I'd rather trade up for Matt Leinart and I like some of the 2nd tier types like Brody Croyle. But, if Vince Young is there when Miami picks and I'm charged with making the selection -- it would be hard to pass him up.

Motion
11-08-2005, 08:57 PM
Much better than your last one although I really hope we don't finish with a record worthy of a top 10 pick. I'm hoping mid to late teens and see Cutler's stock rise to justify us taking him there. Unless we do something major in FA in the offseason, the time has come to find a worthy replacement for Dan. Make the investment Nick!








BTW, Vince Young huggers give it up! :lol:

Buddwalk
11-08-2005, 09:27 PM
That's a pretty good mock. I like Scott better than Winston, but that's based on only a couple of games. Just looks like Scott moves better, kind of in the Richmond Webb mold (very athletic).

Let me ask you this. If Vince Young declares and he's there when Miami picks do you pull the trigger? The upside with him is so exciting, while admittedly he's also quite a risk.

I also like Huff, but #9 might be too high for him and Landry if he comes out (probably around 20 range). The Oregon DT Haloti could be awesome in the middle. Can you imagine him paired with Traylor for a year and with Wright, if he develops?

Good questions and thx for the good comments on an early and indecisive mock draft. Not a huge fan of Jon Scott really...actually Winston is the 2nd most athletic Tackle in the league next to D'Brick since he was a TE before [Not bad either] Actually if Vince Young declares I bet someone will be very interested in him in the top 10 and i doubt that team would be miami. Look for miami to pull a deal and trade away there pick to someone highly enamored with Vince Young. Also there is upside with this kid which many has quicky shut down...The kid is a very exciting player to watch every week and honestly I dont see how hes any less of a qb then michael vick is...hes doing every thing vick did in college. Its a huge risk taking any qb coming out not just this kid so dont disclude him just cause of that people. Haloti would be an awesome grab but with the ravens defense kinda struggling and ray lewis looking average this year...the main reason for all that starts up in the middle and there defense line isnt really amazing, mainly because of there tackles. Drafting a solid sure fire stud like Ngata would be a lock at #6 overall if they stay there. Say what ya want about Landry but hes not a better safety then Huff and hasnt proved he is this year. Huff has made plays all year and is clearly the best safety of this class...I really see landry actually staying his senior season to improve his stock. On the other hand one guy I didnt include in this mock whos been a stud is Darnell Bing [Safety of USC] Guy might be the best safety in all on College Football right now...Just i really dont see any signs of him declaring [Im pretty sure hes a really smart kid...wants to finish up college before leaving]

Caps
11-08-2005, 09:33 PM
I like our pick, Winston is a monster.

kastofsna120
11-08-2005, 10:24 PM
young as an athlete is nowhere near michael vick. a lot slower, not nearly as agile, and a lot easier to tackle, and young is doing it in college with a MUCH better team around him. he doesn't really compare to the elder vick at all

SMadison29
11-08-2005, 10:30 PM
3. Tennessee Titans - Matt Leinart QB USC

This would be a great situation for Leinart & the Titans. He'd get to sit behind McNair for a year (if he doesn't retire), they could trade Volek for a 2nd or 3rd rounder, & it reunites Leinart with Norm Chow. He'd be way ahead of the game if that happened.

Buddwalk
11-08-2005, 10:56 PM
This would be a great situation for Leinart & the Titans. He'd get to sit behind McNair for a year (if he doesn't retire), they could trade Volek for a 2nd or 3rd rounder, & it reunites Leinart with Norm Chow. He'd be way ahead of the game if that happened.

Also not to mention the leading candidate for new coach for the titans is Pete Carrol...Imagine having leinart with his old college coach and his old offensive coordinator...could be dangerous ;)

Batman13
11-09-2005, 01:32 AM
That's a good mock. Looks like you did some research. THe only thing is that I would be surprised to Joe Thomas go in the top 10, even if the Lions do need a RT.

kastofsna120
11-09-2005, 01:35 AM
i didn't even notice that...thomas going that high is pretty bizarre, and before mcneil? no way

Buddwalk
11-09-2005, 04:03 PM
i didn't even notice that...thomas going that high is pretty bizarre, and before mcneil? no way


being the expert on the draft as you like to presume i guess you didnt hear did ya. Joe Thomas has had an amazing year man...this point right now it looks like hes a top 15 pick for sure...3rd or 4th best tackle in the draft ;) Also McNeil has struggled against the pass alot this year

SMadison29
11-09-2005, 04:10 PM
Also not to mention the leading candidate for new coach for the titans is Pete Carrol...Imagine having leinart with his old college coach and his old offensive coordinator...could be dangerous ;)


Do what? I'm a USC fan & Carroll is not leaving. He's found his nitch in college & built a dynasty. He's having way too much fun that he wouldn't have in the pros & doesn't have the desire to go to the next level.

kastofsna120
11-09-2005, 05:06 PM
leading candidate for the titans' head coaching job? jeff fisher is going nowhere

SF Dolphin Fan
11-09-2005, 07:10 PM
Good questions and thx for the good comments on an early and indecisive mock draft. Not a huge fan of Jon Scott really...actually Winston is the 2nd most athletic Tackle in the league next to D'Brick since he was a TE before [Not bad either] Actually if Vince Young declares I bet someone will be very interested in him in the top 10 and i doubt that team would be miami. Look for miami to pull a deal and trade away there pick to someone highly enamored with Vince Young. Also there is upside with this kid which many has quicky shut down...The kid is a very exciting player to watch every week and honestly I dont see how hes any less of a qb then michael vick is...hes doing every thing vick did in college. Its a huge risk taking any qb coming out not just this kid so dont disclude him just cause of that people. Haloti would be an awesome grab but with the ravens defense kinda struggling and ray lewis looking average this year...the main reason for all that starts up in the middle and there defense line isnt really amazing, mainly because of there tackles. Drafting a solid sure fire stud like Ngata would be a lock at #6 overall if they stay there. Say what ya want about Landry but hes not a better safety then Huff and hasnt proved he is this year. Huff has made plays all year and is clearly the best safety of this class...I really see landry actually staying his senior season to improve his stock. On the other hand one guy I didnt include in this mock whos been a stud is Darnell Bing [Safety of USC] Guy might be the best safety in all on College Football right now...Just i really dont see any signs of him declaring [Im pretty sure hes a really smart kid...wants to finish up college before leaving]

Agree that Baltimore might look at Haloti Nagoti, or maybe they would gamble on Vince Young. I've read a few articles on Young that are very positive. He sounds like a great competitor and a leader, but like all young qb's would have to be in the right system. That means so much. When all is said and done, Young will likely stay for his senior year but he's such an exciting prospect to talk about.

I think Huff will rise maybe to top 10 before the draft rolls around. The guy is an amazing playmaker at a position in high demand and would be a nice fit in Miami, enabling Saban to move Daniels to free safety.

I enjoyed your mock.

Buddwalk
11-09-2005, 07:35 PM
leading candidate for the titans' head coaching job? jeff fisher is going nowhere

Jeff Fisher has been on the hotseat the last two years...He'll be fired after the end of this season, along with Mike Tice and Herm Edwards

Buddwalk
11-09-2005, 07:36 PM
Agree that Baltimore might look at Haloti Nagoti, or maybe they would gamble on Vince Young. I've read a few articles on Young that are very positive. He sounds like a great competitor and a leader, but like all young qb's would have to be in the right system. That means so much. When all is said and done, Young will likely stay for his senior year but he's such an exciting prospect to talk about.

I think Huff will rise maybe to top 10 before the draft rolls around. The guy is an amazing playmaker at a position in high demand and would be a nice fit in Miami, enabling Saban to move Daniels to free safety.

I enjoyed your mock.

The only problem i have with huff is yeah hes a great playmaker but he doesnt give 100% effort every down...the kid sometimes takes plays off and you can notice it on the field. Darnell Bing is the best safety in college football right now but like I said i doubt he declares for the draft

SF Dolphin Fan
11-09-2005, 08:12 PM
The only problem i have with huff is yeah hes a great playmaker but he doesnt give 100% effort every down...the kid sometimes takes plays off and you can notice it on the field. Darnell Bing is the best safety in college football right now but like I said i doubt he declares for the draft

I haven't noticed that. Then again, I don't watch a lot of college football -- not nearly as much as I'd like to -- so I'll take your word for it. Do you think Miami would have a shot at Will Blackmon from Boston College in the 2nd round? I like the fact that he can play CB and WR, although that might slow his progess as a cb. The kid from Penn State (name?) could be another potential 2nd rounder. There's also a wr from Ohio State, Santana Holmes, who I like a lot but I think he will end up going in the 1st round.

kastofsna120
11-09-2005, 08:41 PM
santonio holmes gets a lot of pub, but i don't see how he's a first rounder. there are 3 or 4 guys i'd take before him

Buddwalk
11-09-2005, 08:46 PM
santonio holmes gets a lot of pub, but i don't see how he's a first rounder. there are 3 or 4 guys i'd take before him

Actually hes the most talented reciever in this draft dude especially since this is a really weak reciever draft. Can you name 3 or 4 guys that will leave this year better than him?

Lookout for Dwayne Jarrett next season kids already got like 65 catches 960 yards and 14 tds this season for USC and hes only a Sophmore

kastofsna120
11-09-2005, 08:50 PM
derek hagan, martin nance, mike hass

Buddwalk
11-09-2005, 09:00 PM
derek hagan, martin nance, mike hass

Im still waiting for you to name one


What you dont get is ohio state isnt a passing team...if they were holmes numbers would be very high right now man

kastofsna120
11-09-2005, 09:07 PM
um ok

Batman13
11-09-2005, 10:26 PM
Depends what you want. If you want speed, you get Holmes. He could use some polishing, but he has the best potential out of those guys. He's the guy that Miami needs the most because they lack a real deep threat.

SF Dolphin Fan
11-10-2005, 12:47 PM
Depends what you want. If you want speed, you get Holmes. He could use some polishing, but he has the best potential out of those guys. He's the guy that Miami needs the most because they lack a real deep threat.

I agree with that. I like some of the other guys, Hagan is a good player, Avant has great hands and could be a McDuffie type dependable third round guy. But Holmes would be the guy who could open up the offense and keep teams from keying on Chambers.

Oboy
11-10-2005, 03:37 PM
I have only two things I don't really agree with...

First haven't the Vikings repeatedly said they like to take RB's later in the draft and use the committee approach?

Second, I just don't see the Bucs giving up on Simms that quickly. I think if Cutler lasts that long he lasts until the second round.

Buddwalk
11-10-2005, 04:03 PM
I have only two things I don't really agree with...

First haven't the Vikings repeatedly said they like to take RB's later in the draft and use the committee approach?

Second, I just don't see the Bucs giving up on Simms that quickly. I think if Cutler lasts that long he lasts until the second round.

you seem to forget this is Simms 3rd year and gruden hasnt seen the playoffs since 2002, so they need to find a way to win fast...that might be with drafting jay cutler. Its an early mock though dont get too excited

harman097
11-10-2005, 09:14 PM
nice mock, although i dont think i see culpepper leaving minnesota

Buddwalk
11-10-2005, 09:24 PM
nice mock, although i dont think i see culpepper leaving minnesota


The owner of the vikings doesnt like culpepper and Dennis Green is in love with him...so it kinda seems like a done deal just waiting for the offseason.

kastofsna120
11-10-2005, 09:31 PM
the contract is too big to be a "done deal" because the owner doesn't like him and another coach does

Buddwalk
11-10-2005, 09:33 PM
the contract is too big to be a "done deal" because the owner doesn't like him and another coach does

Why do you think you know more then nfl experts...Im only reporting what they've said and you say something that totally kills it :lol:

kastofsna120
11-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Why do you think you know more then nfl experts...Im only reporting what they've said and you say something that totally kills it :lol:
if pasquerelli, glazer or mortenson said it, i'd put some stock into it. otherwise, it's just a dumb rumor that doesn't make sense