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Philter25
11-21-2005, 03:21 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSStandings

Heh. Sorry DD28. :lol: Looks like if Texas or USC lose, we are first in line for the pickens. ;)





Six teams in the BCS standings benefited from Georgia Tech's 14-10 upset win at Miami on Saturday.

On Monday, the Hurricanes dropped from No. 3 to No. 9 in the BCS, allowing Penn State, LSU, Virginia Tech and Ohio State to each slide up one spot in the standings behind USC and Texas, which remain entrenched in the top two spots. Oregon took the biggest step, entering the fray with a jump from No. 10 to No. 7, ahead of Notre Dame. The Irish also improved a spot to No. 8, thanks to Alabama's loss, which dropped the Crimson Tide to 14th.

ether79
11-21-2005, 03:58 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSStandings

Heh. Sorry DD28. :lol: Looks like if Texas or USC lose, we are first in line for the pickens. ;)

But it now looks like there might possibly be a LSU vs. PSU Orange Bowl. That would settle the discussion. :saberfigh

Philter25
11-21-2005, 04:02 PM
But it now looks like there might possibly be a LSU vs. PSU Orange Bowl. That would settle the discussion. :saberfigh

No chance whatsoever. LSU will play in the Sugar Bowl.

The "anchor teams" will be slated in their bowls. SEC winner goes to the Sugar Bowl and the ACC/Big East winner gets slated in the Orange Bowl. The Orange Bowl gets to choose its anchor team this year and there is no way they pick the Big East team. Therefore FSU/VATech will be slated in the Orange Bowl. The rest of the spots therefore get "drafted"

Draft order is Fiesta (because they lose their "anchor team" to the BCS championship in Texas), Orange, Fiesta, then Sugar.

Therefore, the ONLY way PSU can play LSU is if the Fiesta Bowl passes on Penn State twice and the Orange Bowl passes on Penn State once. There is no way that the Big East winner will be chosen over PSU in any Bowl game.

Therefore its pretty much impossible for PSU to play LSU. The only way they will play each other would be is Texas AND USC lose and PSU and LSU were #1 and #2 in the BCS.

ether79
11-21-2005, 04:17 PM
No chance whatsoever. LSU will play in the Sugar Bowl.

The "anchor teams" will be slated in their bowls. SEC winner goes to the Sugar Bowl and the ACC/Big East winner gets slated in the Orange Bowl. The Orange Bowl gets to choose its anchor team this year and there is no way they pick the Big East team. Therefore FSU/VATech will be slated in the Orange Bowl. The rest of the spots therefore get "drafted"

Draft order is Fiesta (because they lose their "anchor team" to the BCS championship in Texas), Orange, Fiesta, then Sugar.

Therefore, the ONLY way PSU can play LSU is if the Fiesta Bowl passes on Penn State twice and the Orange Bowl passes on Penn State once. There is no way that the Big East winner will be chosen over PSU in any Bowl game.

Therefore its pretty much impossible for PSU to play LSU. The only way they will play each other would be is Texas AND USC lose and PSU and LSU were #1 and #2 in the BCS.

True I wasn't using the brain there for a second.

Philter25
11-21-2005, 04:22 PM
:lol: You're usually on the ball. I'll let this one slide. ;) Technically though, it IS possible that they could play in the Sugar, but the chances of that happening are pretty far fetched and financially dont make any sense for the Orange Bowl or Fiesta Bowl.

Right now, I think its a safe bet to say that there is a 99% chance that LSU will play the Big East winner in the Sugar Bowl if LSU wins the SEC.

ether79
11-21-2005, 04:26 PM
:lol: You're usually on the ball. I'll let this one slide. ;) Technically though, it IS possible that they could play in the Sugar, but the chances of that happening are pretty far fetched and financially dont make any sense for the Orange Bowl or Fiesta Bowl.

Right now, I think its a safe bet to say that there is a 99% chance that LSU will play the Big East winner in the Sugar Bowl if LSU wins the SEC.

yeah I guess I'll still go with my earlier thought..PSU v. ND Fiesta :sneak: :dunce:

BigScuingili
11-21-2005, 04:50 PM
I like the whole PSU and ND game theory. 2 old, historically entrenched schools going at it, i like it.

PSUFinFan
11-21-2005, 05:00 PM
Wow, I am surprised that LSU is that far behind Penn State. Even with the Hurricanes loss they didn't manage to move up a spot in the computer polls. At this point, I doubt LSU will be able to make up the points unless the absolutely destroy whoever they face in the SEC title game and even that might not be enough. It looks like I will be forced to change my name to UCLAFinFan or CUFinFan for the next couple of weeks.

Motion
11-21-2005, 05:08 PM
I heard its very possible for a PSU/VT Orange bowl and ND/? in the Fiesta

DolphinDevil28
11-21-2005, 05:11 PM
No chance whatsoever. LSU will play in the Sugar Bowl.

The "anchor teams" will be slated in their bowls. SEC winner goes to the Sugar Bowl and the ACC/Big East winner gets slated in the Orange Bowl. The Orange Bowl gets to choose its anchor team this year and there is no way they pick the Big East team. Therefore FSU/VATech will be slated in the Orange Bowl. The rest of the spots therefore get "drafted"

Draft order is Fiesta (because they lose their "anchor team" to the BCS championship in Texas), Orange, Fiesta, then Sugar.

Therefore, the ONLY way PSU can play LSU is if the Fiesta Bowl passes on Penn State twice and the Orange Bowl passes on Penn State once. There is no way that the Big East winner will be chosen over PSU in any Bowl game.

Therefore its pretty much impossible for PSU to play LSU. The only way they will play each other would be is Texas AND USC lose and PSU and LSU were #1 and #2 in the BCS.


Yeah, he's right. We are a lock for the Sugar Bowl. It sucks too because we'll be toying with West Virginia. :rolleyes:


I would love to see a Penn St./LSU matchup though. Very low-scoring and tough-fought.

...But of course LSU would win.

ether79
11-21-2005, 05:13 PM
I heard its very possible for a PSU/VT Orange bowl and ND/? in the Fiesta

After thinking about it I think it will be an OSU v. VT Orange bowl.. I could be wrong though.

Philter25
11-21-2005, 05:47 PM
PSU will either be in the Fiesta against ND, the Rose Bowl if someone loses, or in the Orange against VT/FSU.

I think it depends on who wins the ACC. If FSU wins the ACC and the Fiesta Bowl takes ND with its top pick, PSU goes to play FSU in the Orange Bowl no questions.

However if VT wins the ACC and the Fiesta Bowl takes ND, I think the Orange Bowl would have a toss up here. If they take Penn State, a PSU/VT matchup is WAY too regional. They would be losing money. Financially, it would be a better move to take OSU for an OSU/VT matchup and have PSU/ND in the Fiesta.

However if the Fiesta picks PSU first, then the Orange will snag ND and I would be inclined to believe the Fiesta would probably take Auburn or Oregon or another at large team thats not OSU.

I think its going to be PSU/ND Fiesta and a VT/OSU Orange Bowl. Financially that makes the most sense, and we all know what the Bowl games are about. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

kastofsna120
11-21-2005, 06:27 PM
Yeah, he's right. We are a lock for the Sugar Bowl. It sucks too because we'll be toying with West Virginia. :rolleyes:
actually USF will blow you guys out ;)

DolphinDevil28
11-21-2005, 07:27 PM
actually USF will blow you guys out ;)


Isn't that such a shame? I really wish Miami would not have lost, because we might have seen an LSU/Miami sugar bowl.

Philter25
11-21-2005, 07:41 PM
Isn't that such a shame? I really wish Miami would not have lost, because we might have seen an LSU/Miami sugar bowl. No chance. It would have been a PSU/Miami Orange Bowl if Miami didnt lose.

Unless LSU made the Rose Bowl, they were slated for the Sugar Bowl and unless Miami made the Rose Bowl, they were slated for the Orange Bowl.

Im disappointed they lost also, I would have loved to see Penn State beat up on DAH U. I would have called Michael Irvin personally to rub it in. :lol:

The SEC and ACC are "anchor" conferences. They will always play in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl until the BCS changes or unless they both make the National Championship game. There is no other possible way Miami would have played LSU.

kastofsna120
11-21-2005, 07:44 PM
Isn't that such a shame? I really wish Miami would not have lost, because we might have seen an LSU/Miami sugar bowl.
i'd rather play notre dame, but yeah LSU would've been a nice game too. i'm sure they would've been up for it. can't say the same for georgia tech

MelbournePhin
11-21-2005, 09:26 PM
fsu will beat va. tech. and go to the orange bowl :)

TigerStadium
11-22-2005, 03:02 AM
fsu will beat va. tech. and go to the orange bowl :)

I agree.

And LSU will be stuck against the WVU/USF winner.

:cry:

kastofsna120
11-22-2005, 03:10 AM
I agree.

And LSU will be stuck against the WVU/USF winner.

:cry:
i guess it'll suck to lose to USF

LSUSAINT
11-23-2005, 06:24 AM
i guess it'll suck to lose to USF

Do you like sucking off Matt Leinart? Just wondering. :shakeno:

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 06:26 AM
Do you like sucking off Matt Leinart? Just wondering. :shakeno:
i can see how you can get that assumption with a comment about USF

NJFINSFAN1
11-23-2005, 11:07 AM
But it now looks like there might possibly be a LSU vs. PSU Orange Bowl. That would settle the discussion. :saberfigh

Lsu would beat up Penn St

Only reason they are ranked this high is Paterno. People want to see him get one more chance. The Big ten has been week this year.

Philter25
11-23-2005, 12:08 PM
Lsu would beat up Penn St

Only reason they are ranked this high is Paterno. People want to see him get one more chance. The Big ten has been week this year.
Thats going to be funny if the Big10 is the only conference to get 2 teams in the BCS. I wouldnt call that weak.

JoePa isnt the reason they are ranked that high. They are a 1 loss team and out of the 1 loss teams they have the highest victory against a ranked team, Ohio State.

If the Big10 is so weak and the only reason they are ranked that high is because of Paterno, then why do ALL but 1 of the BCS computers have Penn State at #3? Do the computers give "bonus points" to Paterno? LSU is only ranked in the TOP 5 by ONE computer.

Philter25
11-23-2005, 12:08 PM
i can see how you can get that assumption with a comment about USF

I think he was talking about the Matt Leinart homage photo shoot you have been sporting as your avatar.

DolphinDevil28
11-23-2005, 12:13 PM
Thats going to be funny if the Big10 is the only conference to get 2 teams in the BCS. I wouldnt call that weak.

JoePa isnt the reason they are ranked that high. They are a 1 loss team and out of the 1 loss teams they have the highest victory against a ranked team, Ohio State.

If the Big10 is so weak and the only reason they are ranked that high is because of Paterno, then why do ALL but 1 of the BCS computers have Penn State at #3? Do the computers give "bonus points" to Paterno? LSU is only ranked in the TOP 5 by ONE computer.


Hey Philter, I definitely don't think we'd "beat up" on Penn St., but I do think we'd win.

PSU thought they saw a defense when they played Ohio State. LSU's defense is the same calibur of Miami's and Va Tech's.

But it would be a good game.

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 12:24 PM
I think he was talking about the Matt Leinart homage photo shoot you have been sporting as your avatar.
then why would he quote a USF comment to mention it?

oh yeah, because he's an idiot

Philter25
11-23-2005, 12:26 PM
then why would he quote a USF comment to mention it?

oh yeah, because he's an idiot

I have no idea. I would tend to agree. :lol: But Im sure thats what he was talkin about.

Philter25
11-23-2005, 12:30 PM
Hey Philter, I definitely don't think we'd "beat up" on Penn St., but I do think we'd win.

PSU thought they saw a defense when they played Ohio State. LSU's defense is the same calibur of Miami's and Va Tech's.

But it would be a good game.

Of course I feel the opposite. We dont have that shabby of a defense either. Both teams are probably putting up almost identical PF and PA numbers, probably within 2-3 points. But it definately would be a good Bowl Game. Too bad the way the BCS is setup now there is no way we can find out.

NJFINSFAN1
11-23-2005, 06:13 PM
Thats going to be funny if the Big10 is the only conference to get 2 teams in the BCS. I wouldnt call that weak.

JoePa isnt the reason they are ranked that high. They are a 1 loss team and out of the 1 loss teams they have the highest victory against a ranked team, Ohio State.

If the Big10 is so weak and the only reason they are ranked that high is because of Paterno, then why do ALL but 1 of the BCS computers have Penn State at #3? Do the computers give "bonus points" to Paterno? LSU is only ranked in the TOP 5 by ONE computer.

I knew that would get your skiing butt going!:lol: I do think PSU is the weakest Top 10 team by far although!

Philter25
11-26-2005, 02:36 AM
I knew that would get your skiing butt going!:lol: I do think PSU is the weakest Top 10 team by far although!

Out of all the teams in the Top10, Penn State and Texas have beaten the highest ranked team this year in OSU.

That puts that debate to rest. ;)

SMadison29
11-26-2005, 03:11 AM
Sorry guys, but even if USC loses to UCLA, USC will still be #2 in the BCS because the human polls will not drop them behind LSU or Penn State.

kastofsna120
11-26-2005, 03:14 AM
^not true. if they lose big, they'll drop far. especially if LSU ends up winning huge in the sec champ

Philter25
12-03-2005, 10:42 PM
So LSU would beat up on Penn State? Right? ;)


Me no thinkey so. :lol:

MikeO
12-03-2005, 11:00 PM
So LSU would beat up on Penn State? Right? ;)


Me no thinkey so. :lol:

PSU is 1 second away from screwing up the whole BCS team. They are and were clearly the 3rd best team in the country this year.

dm416
12-03-2005, 11:24 PM
PSU really turned it around this year

Nublar7
12-04-2005, 02:47 AM
PSU really turned it around this year
I smell oranges. :D