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Majpain
11-21-2005, 11:56 PM
No T-wolves are my fav team.Kg is my fav player seening him traded will be hard.But I wan't him to win a championship.Man Mchale is the worst owner.

Minnphin
11-22-2005, 01:16 AM
I'm also a diehard wolves fan, and if they trade KG, they might as well board up the Target Center, because they won't be able to give tickets away for at least 5 years. Unfortunately, I think it's going to get to the point where one of the Kevin's has to go, and I don't think it'll be the Kevin that I, or you want.

FinsNYanksFan13
11-22-2005, 02:33 AM
He'd look real good in a Knicks uniform!

finfansince72
11-22-2005, 03:02 AM
I think if the Knicks took Szerbiacks contract off the Wolves hands they might do it.

Section126
11-22-2005, 03:06 AM
He'd look real good in a Knicks uniform!


You have nothing to trade. The Knicks suck and will suck for eternity. get used to it.

You have a a little thing I like to call Isiah Thomas.....until that guy goes...forget it.

Majpain
11-22-2005, 03:05 PM
I rather him go to Detroit.That way he could win a championship.

Prime
11-22-2005, 06:17 PM
I know that the Rox sure could use him.

QB2RonnieTD23
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
These rumors have been up in the air for quite a while now. It would be very interesting to see a team like L.A or New York to get Garnett, but i cant see anyone trading for him. Too expensive and too much to give up. But it's interesting to see.

Majpain
11-22-2005, 08:12 PM
Well if you didn't know Garnett took a pay cutt to get better players in the offseason.But Garnett isnt a whiney baby when it comes to money.Aka Spree and T.O.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 10:12 AM
I heard the Knicks speculation, and even read one exec say he'd bet money that Garnett would be a Knick by February. Baloney. What, precisely, could the Knicks offer other than to take Wally Szczerbiak's deal off Minny's hands? Trade a top 5 player for some salary flexibility? You've got to be kidding. If that happens, McHale should be shot at sunrise.

As for the Rockets, an offer of Yao Ming and some salary ballast for Garnett might be interesting. I don't know Yao's contract status, though. Didn't he sign a big extension? That would make him really hard to trade because of base year compensation status. However, McGrady and salary ballast for Garnett might be a possibility. The T-Wolves could save face by getting a superstar back in return. Meanwhile, the presence of Garnett might be just what Yao needs to take his game to the next level.

However, I think if Garnett gets swapped, he's going to Detroit, and not just because I want it to happen. The Pistons would have more to offer than anyone else. There's reports that they discussed Rasheed Wallace and Darko Milicic for Garnett, but obviously it hasn't happened. If they include a quality young swingman, either Carlos Delfino or Maurice Evans, that might be enough.

MikeO
11-23-2005, 10:21 AM
I heard the Knicks speculation, and even read one exec say he'd bet money that Garnett would be a Knick by February. Baloney. What, precisely, could the Knicks offer other than to take Wally Szczerbiak's deal off Minny's hands? Trade a top 5 player for some salary flexibility? You've got to be kidding. If that happens, McHale should be shot at sunrise.

As for the Rockets, an offer of Yao Ming and some salary ballast for Garnett might be interesting. I don't know Yao's contract status, though. Didn't he sign a big extension? That would make him really hard to trade because of base year compensation status. However, McGrady and salary ballast for Garnett might be a possibility. The T-Wolves could save face by getting a superstar back in return. Meanwhile, the presence of Garnett might be just what Yao needs to take his game to the next level.

However, I think if Garnett gets swapped, he's going to Detroit, and not just because I want it to happen. The Pistons would have more to offer than anyone else. There's reports that they discussed Rasheed Wallace and Darko Milicic for Garnett, but obviously it hasn't happened. If they include a quality young swingman, either Carlos Delfino or Maurice Evans, that might be enough.

Unless the Knicks are giving the T-wolvs ownership of MSG the stadium itself they have nothing to offer.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 10:27 AM
Unless the Knicks are giving the T-wolvs ownership of MSG the stadium itself they have nothing to offer.

Word. I seriously doubt that an offer of Channing Frye plus salary flexibility is going to get it done.

dob72
11-23-2005, 10:31 AM
the trade i hear is kg for jermaine o'neal and some other guys

phunwin
11-23-2005, 10:40 AM
the trade i hear is kg for jermaine o'neal and some other guys

That would make sense, too. I think the T-Wolves would seriously consider a swap of O'Neal and Jon Bender for Garnett.

GreenMonster
11-23-2005, 10:55 AM
That would make sense, too. I think the T-Wolves would seriously consider a swap of O'Neal and Jon Bender for Garnett.

They want contracts that will expire this year. The only way they move Garnett is if they get major cap relief and taking on Oneal won't do that. Penny Hardaway will be an attractive piece later in the year as his contract is huge and comes off the books this year.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 10:57 AM
They want contracts that will expire this year. The only way they move Garnett is if they get major cap relief and taking on Oneal won't do that. Penny Hardaway will be an attractive piece later in the year as his contract is huge and comes off the books this year.

They may want cap relief, but they also will want some actual, you know, talent in return. There is no way they will simply swap Garnett for some salary relief.

MikeO
11-23-2005, 11:15 AM
They may want cap relief, but they also will want some actual, you know, talent in return. There is no way they will simply swap Garnett for some salary relief.

Frye, Crawford, won't be enough. That would be the talent. Unless they want Steph back which I highly doubt.

MikeO
11-23-2005, 11:16 AM
That would make sense, too. I think the T-Wolves would seriously consider a swap of O'Neal and Jon Bender for Garnett.

O'Neal and Tinsley is the deal

dominizzo
11-23-2005, 11:26 AM
Bring KG to Utah

PF- CArlos BOOzer
SF- Andrei Kirlilenko
C- KEvin GArnett
SG- Gordan Giricek
PG- Deron Williams

Depth
Mehmet Okur
MAtt HArpring
Kris Humphries
GEreg OStertag:)

phunwin
11-23-2005, 12:17 PM
O'Neal and Tinsley is the deal

Oh, okay, that works too.

Section126
11-23-2005, 12:31 PM
Why would the pacers do this?

Personally...I would love for this to happen...as a Heat fan.

Majpain
11-23-2005, 12:37 PM
Honestly I really think now he will finish his career in Minny.Sadly that sucks for him cause it looks like he can't win a championship in minny.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 01:14 PM
Why would the pacers do this?

Personally...I would love for this to happen...as a Heat fan.

Because Garnett is a much better player than O'Neal. He's also a better leader.

Section126
11-23-2005, 01:36 PM
Because Garnett is a much better player than O'Neal. He's also a better leader.


Problem is that after Tinsley....they have nobody.....

and Garnett is a great player...but he is kinda soft....

You just beat him up and he goes away.....

phunwin
11-23-2005, 01:40 PM
Problem is that after Tinsley....they have nobody.....

and Garnett is a great player...but he is kinda soft....

You just beat him up and he goes away.....

True, they'd be weak at the point, but I think the upgrade from O'Neal to Garnett is worth it. Also note that Garnett would probably run the offense anyway. And you're the first person I've heard call Garnett "soft". I definitely don't think that's true.

Section126
11-23-2005, 02:01 PM
True, they'd be weak at the point, but I think the upgrade from O'Neal to Garnett is worth it. Also note that Garnett would probably run the offense anyway. And you're the first person I've heard call Garnett "soft". I definitely don't think that's true.

I used to watch alot of Wolves games and you would see how more physical teams would push him around and deny him his shot late in games....

The guy is a top 5 player....and I guess he makes the pacers better.....but he is more easily defended than the other 4 in the top 5 players in the league.

Rocky Raccoon
11-23-2005, 02:15 PM
I know that the Rox sure could use him.

Yes they can, what a 3 headed monster that would be... Yao, KG, and T-Mac.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 02:24 PM
I used to watch alot of Wolves games and you would see how more physical teams would push him around and deny him his shot late in games....

The guy is a top 5 player....and I guess he makes the pacers better.....but he is more easily defended than the other 4 in the top 5 players in the league.

He is pretty slender for a 6'11 guy, so I could see him getting shoved around late, possibly evidenced by the fact that he likes the 15-18 foot J.

However, I would submit that Garnett is perhaps the hardest guy in the league to defend because, although he can be pushed, he can also hurt you from anywhere inside 25 feet. Play him with a smaller, quicker player, and he'll go over or through them. Play him with a big and he can go around him or take him away from the hoop. I'd contrast that with, say, Shaq, for whom the game plan is the same every time: stick your biggest guy on him, foul a lot, rotate a couple bigs in to spread the abuse out and hope for the best.

Now, obviously, guarding Shaq remains some of the most miserable and humbling work in the NBA, but with Garnett, there's a level of complexity that makes him really tough to guard, in many ways more so than Shaq. The game plan for Shaq is the same every time; the game plan for Garnett is not. I don't know, maybe your definition of easy or hard to guard is different.

phunwin
11-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Yes they can, what a 3 headed monster that would be... Yao, KG, and T-Mac.

Um, I'm pretty sure they'd have to give up T-Mac or Yao in any such deal. Luther Head, David Wesley and a couple first round picks probably won't cut it.

Majpain
11-23-2005, 04:39 PM
The owner of the T-wolves said KG will not be traded...EVER!

phunwin
11-23-2005, 05:03 PM
The owner of the T-wolves said KG will not be traded...EVER!

What else is he going to say? If the Wolves were openly shopping Garnett, the entire state of Minnesota would go into therapy between that and the Vikings' crummy season.

Personally, I think there's a 50-50 chance Garnett gets traded this year, and it goes up to 80% this offseason if Minny misses the playoffs or goes one-and-done.

Majpain
11-23-2005, 06:59 PM
You speak the truth.I think they will make the playoffs this year but they will not go anywhere.

finfansince72
11-24-2005, 10:00 AM
Why trade Garnett? What are you going to get in return thats worth it? The Wolves probaly wouldnt even be in Minnesota anymore if they didnt have Garnett. How on earth are the people in Minnesota going to pay to see salary cap relief and a couple of duds, and future picks? It aint gonna happen unless someone comes up with a franchise player in return.
There is no one on the Knicks roster I would even consider for Garnett, not any 2, not any 3 players. They are terrible. Why would Minnesota gift wrap the biggest gift to a terrible GM in Isiah just to dump Garnett? Im lost on those rumors. I mean Garnett is a big name so you know Isiah is thinking of some way to add his contract to the Knicks payroll but cmon, theres nothing the Knicks could offer that would even make me consider giving them Garnett. Isiahs number would be blocked from my phone if I was a GM, unless I had an unworkable, capkilling contract that I wanted to get rid of. Hmmm, do the Knicks want Sczerbiack? Hmm.

Majpain
11-24-2005, 12:56 PM
The Knicks tried to get Wally last year.I don't think Wally is starter he is a great bench scorer.

phunwin
11-24-2005, 09:47 PM
The Knicks tried to get Wally last year.I don't think Wally is starter he is a great bench scorer.

I think Wally would be a perfect fit for the Knicks....I would pay money to watch all those shoot-first, shoot-second, pass-never guards and swingmen hog the ball from one another, culminating in a steel cage death match at MSG, taking years away from Larry Brown's life every game.

Szczerbiak, Marbury, Richardson and Crawford...I mean, would ANYONE else on the Knicks see the ball? Why not just swap for Zach Randolph and try to have a game with zero assists among the starting five?

(BTW, I'm not trying to deride Phinfan99 here; I've been hearing that same rumor for some time. It's just so ridiculous that the Knicks would consider it.)

Pink_Dove
11-24-2005, 11:07 PM
I think Wally would be a perfect fit for the Knicks....I would pay money to watch all those shoot-first, shoot-second, pass-never guards and swingmen hog the ball from one another, culminating in a steel cage death match at MSG, taking years away from Larry Brown's life every game.

Szczerbiak, Marbury, Richardson and Crawford...I mean, would ANYONE else on the Knicks see the ball? Why not just swap for Zach Randolph and try to have a game with zero assists among the starting five?

(BTW, I'm not trying to deride Phinfan99 here; I've been hearing that same rumor for some time. It's just so ridiculous that the Knicks would consider it.)

Ridiculous unless you take into account one of Marbury, Richardson or Crawford would be going the other way. I think you can take Q-Rich out of that equation but if the Wolves can somehow get Marbury or Crawford in exchange for Sczerbiak and team up with Garnett, you'd at least have the fans interest and hope back.
With the way Crawford has played this season, they would have a hard time unloading him but he might do a decent job if he ever steps out of NY. We all know he does have talent.

Majpain
11-25-2005, 03:46 PM
The knicks would not trade marbury and crawford to minny for wally.Marbury would not go because when he was wiht minny he wanted to be "Batman" and not "Robin".I don't think Pacers would trade Oneal for KG.