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testtubetimmy
11-23-2005, 05:32 AM
Rodgers was slated to go number 1, if im remembering correctly. Way before the combine. Or at least top 5.

And if I remember correctly, he did NOT go number 1 :)

So who knows ladies and gents. Leinart may not be a sure fire to go at 1.

Boomer
11-23-2005, 05:34 AM
Leinart will go 1, 2 or 3. There will be no freefall.

LostInPatsLand
11-23-2005, 05:35 AM
Rodgers was slated to go number 1, if im remembering correctly. Way before the combine. Or at least top 5.

And if I remember correctly, he did NOT go number 1 :)

So who knows ladies and gents. Leinart may not be a sure fire to go at 1.

True, but there might be a real reason for his dropping, and if there is, we should think twice before pulling the trigger and drafting him.

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 05:40 AM
rodgers was the #1 overall pick till about 48 hours before draft day. all of a sudden jaws and probably sean salisbury said on NFL live that he didn't have a good arm or something, and how jason campbell is better than him (lmao), and he immediately dropped after that. i gotta question the football minds for a lot of the teams out there

and leinart will be top 3

testtubetimmy
11-23-2005, 05:46 AM
rodgers was the #1 overall pick till about 48 hours before draft day. all of a sudden jaws and probably sean salisbury said on NFL live that he didn't have a good arm or something, and how jason campbell is better than him (lmao), and he immediately dropped after that. i gotta question the football minds for a lot of the teams out there

and leinart will be top 3

See, but what happens if Jaws or Salisbury says Leinart isnt as cracked up as we all think? They say it was the players around him. He might be sick at the combine and throw horribly.

Point is, there are a lot of outside factors that could impact where he goes. Like if the top five teams drafting already have young, developmental QB's, and decide to focus someplace else. Rodgers slipped so far because no one needed a QB that badly, and had other needs.

You say Leinart will be top 3, but you mentioned Rodgers being number 1 till 48 hours before the draft. So up until 48 hours before this draft, can we be so sure that he'll go top three?

Im just playing devils advocate by the way. I truly think that he goes somewhere in the top 5. I just like to hope that maybe we get him. :D

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 05:50 AM
See, but what happens if Jaws or Salisbury says Leinart isnt as cracked up as we all think? They say it was the players around him. He might be sick at the combine and throw horribly.

Point is, there are a lot of outside factors that could impact where he goes. Like if the top five teams drafting already have young, developmental QB's, and decide to focus someplace else. Rodgers slipped so far because no one needed a QB that badly, and had other needs.

You say Leinart will be top 3, but you mentioned Rodgers being number 1 till 48 hours before the draft. So up until 48 hours before this draft, can we be so sure that he'll go top three?

Im just playing devils advocate by the way. I truly think that he goes somewhere in the top 5. I just like to hope that maybe we get him. :D
rodgers was #1 before the draft, but he wasn't a surefire #1 guy. there was always questions on him, from the tedford thing to his height to his mechanics, etc. leinart has been the consensus #1 guy for 2 years now, and he'll have to do something drastic to drop, like a horrible senior bowl or something (i doubt he'll even go to the senior bowl, so that's not a factor)

i could see ferguson dropping though

Boomer
11-23-2005, 05:52 AM
rodgers was the #1 overall pick till about 48 hours before draft day. all of a sudden jaws and probably sean salisbury said on NFL live that he didn't have a good arm or something, and how jason campbell is better than him (lmao), and he immediately dropped after that. i gotta question the football minds for a lot of the teams out there

and leinart will be top 3

Some people on here knew all along that Aaron Rodgers wasn't going to be the #1 pick.

Some people knew all along that barring a trade, that the #1 pick was Alex Smith.

Some people were vilified for that stance.

Some people ate humble pie.

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 06:00 AM
Some people on here knew all along that Aaron Rodgers wasn't going to be the #1 pick.

Some people knew all along that barring a trade, that the #1 pick was Alex Smith.

Some people were vilified for that stance.

Some people ate humble pie.
regardless, rodgers certainly wasn't the #24 pick at any point

Boomer
11-23-2005, 06:38 AM
Some people on here said that Rodgers would indeed fall to 24.

Some people took that stance and stuck with it.

Some people were vilified for saying that.

Some people at humble pie.

testtubetimmy
11-23-2005, 06:51 AM
Some people on here said that Rodgers would indeed fall to 24.

Some people took that stance and stuck with it.

Some people were vilified for saying that.

Some people at humble pie.

some people can be quite annoying

Boomer
11-23-2005, 07:48 AM
Some people can get banned.

nlp0121
11-23-2005, 07:50 AM
some people can be quite annoying

Well annoying as you may find him, Boomer knows his football and is very damn knowledgable when it comes to the draft.

Fact is...Rodgers had more passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage than any QB in the NCAA his last 2 years at school....couldn't really pressure the ball down the field, and no team needed a QB bad enough to reach for him.

4evaFinz
11-23-2005, 08:09 AM
some people can be quite annoying

Yes those people who challenge and insult those that are the foundation of this community, and regularly share their knowledge with us joe-schmo fans.

If I am not mistaken Boomer had said Rodgers would fall to Green Bay.

PressCoverage
11-23-2005, 08:09 AM
Some people can get banned.

oh, come on... that's not a bannable offense, is it? ... saying someone else is annoying? there'd be none of us left if that was that case...

Boomer
11-23-2005, 08:24 AM
I was only yanking his chain. I WAS being annoying.

;)

HelloMotto
11-23-2005, 09:23 AM
I was only yanking his chain. I WAS being annoying.

;)

you were pretty acurate last year. Do you have a top 10 mock ready yet.

Canadianfishfan
11-23-2005, 11:21 AM
I don't believe scouting staff amd teams that invest in them all year long wait till the last minute to hear a report from Mort and Sean to decide where they pick a certain player. Where do you think Espn get their information. It's the other way around. Perhaps 48 hrs before the draft teams may have leaked their intentions

dominizzo
11-23-2005, 11:36 AM
Miami will get 3 pick USc LEinart

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 01:45 PM
lol @ boomer bragging about what he said about smith and rodgers. i looked at the thread you made before the draft. here was your top 5

1 - Smith - 49ers
2 - Benson - Miami
3 - Edwards - Cleveland
4 - Williams C - Chicago
5 - Rodgers - Tampa.

congrats on knowing about smith and rodgers, but you really had no clue what else was going on. the titans taking rolle was funny, too

ether79
11-23-2005, 01:52 PM
lol @ boomer bragging about what he said about smith and rodgers. i looked at the thread you made before the draft. here was your top 5

1 - Smith - 49ers
2 - Benson - Miami
3 - Edwards - Cleveland
4 - Williams C - Chicago
5 - Rodgers - Tampa.

congrats on knowing about smith and rodgers, but you really had no clue what else was going on. the titans taking rolle was funny, too

Well kast he actually did say Rodgers would fall to GB

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=75739

kastofsna120
11-23-2005, 08:50 PM
Well kast he actually did say Rodgers would fall to GB

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=75739
yeah i know...i said that

ether79
11-23-2005, 08:54 PM
yeah i know...i said that

Yeah after I posted that I noticed it..but I went through too much to delete it.:lol:

Dors156
11-23-2005, 10:14 PM
Rodgers was slated to go number 1, if im remembering correctly. Way before the combine. Or at least top 5.

And if I remember correctly, he did NOT go number 1 :)

So who knows ladies and gents. Leinart may not be a sure fire to go at 1.


well alex smith and rodgers were even and its obvious leinarts the best qb in the draft

Agent51
11-24-2005, 05:50 PM
Rodgers was slated to go number 1, if im remembering correctly. Way before the combine. Or at least top 5.

And if I remember correctly, he did NOT go number 1 :)

So who knows ladies and gents. Leinart may not be a sure fire to go at 1.

True, but do you also remember that there was another "#1 worthy QB" in Alex Smith? It was always a toss-up between the two, there isn't someone like that to challenge Leinart this year, unless by some miracle Quinn or Young come out. And before everyone starts by saying Leinart is way better than Quinn, Young, etc etc I was simply stating that right now Leinart is the only clear cut high 1st round QB but if one of those two comes out that adds more QB talent that can go high in the draft. I'm not saying they will or will not go before him if they come out, just stating that they qould provide more talent to the QB class instead of leaving Leinart all alone up there.

FinNasty
11-25-2005, 05:42 PM
rodgers was #1 before the draft, but he wasn't a surefire #1 guy. there was always questions on him, from the tedford thing to his height to his mechanics, etc. leinart has been the consensus #1 guy for 2 years now, and he'll have to do something drastic to drop, like a horrible senior bowl or something (i doubt he'll even go to the senior bowl, so that's not a factor)

i could see ferguson dropping though

I've seen you post this a few times... Why do you think he is gunna drop?

kastofsna120
11-25-2005, 05:56 PM
a) he's undersized
b) he hasn't been as dominant this year as people expected. he had some trouble with darryl tapp last weekend
c) the trend in recent drafts is for overhyped players to drop suddenly on draft day. i'm not saying he'll drop drastically, but i wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted in the 5-10 range. i still think he's the 2nd or 3rd best player in the draft, but i see him dropping

LightsOut
11-25-2005, 06:55 PM
I don't believe scouting staff amd teams that invest in them all year long wait till the last minute to hear a report from Mort and Sean to decide where they pick a certain player. Where do you think Espn get their information. It's the other way around. Perhaps 48 hrs before the draft teams may have leaked their intentions
:lol: yeah it was ron jaworski's fault he dropped.

harman097
11-28-2005, 08:50 AM
There are multiple teams drooling at the chance to get Leinart. Rodgers fell simply because of teams drafting on need, not overall talent. Theres no way Leinart would fall.