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Lucci
12-07-2005, 12:15 AM
Do u think reggie bush will rush for 1,000 yards his first season in the nfl? if he decides to go to the draft which i think he will def go.


i think he will

elandre
12-07-2005, 12:17 AM
yea if u give the guy a good line the guy wear def break 1,000 yards



If he goes to the Texans ehhh.... that line is about as good as it gets so he might get to 1,000:lol:

Lucci
12-07-2005, 12:27 AM
Yea the texans have no line at all lol didnt david carr break the record for bein sacked the most in one game :lol:

Prime
12-07-2005, 12:28 AM
It really depends on what kind of offense he will be going into. get back to me after the draft.

Lucci
12-07-2005, 12:28 AM
yea i will get bak to u

Alex44
12-07-2005, 12:30 AM
Do u think reggie bush will rush for 1,000 yards his first season in the nfl? if he decides to go to the draft which i think he will def go.


i think he will


Reggie Bush Will Be a bust, he will only succeed if you put him on a team with a power runner

also

Yeah he makes college Linebackers and Safteys look dumb but

Do you think guys like, Thomas, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Roy Williams, are gonna let him put those moves on them? He has no running power at all he is all speed, he will be the biggest bust since QB Ryan leaf

Even though they play diff positions :lol:

Lucci
12-07-2005, 12:34 AM
Reggie Bush Will Be a bust, he will only succeed if you put him on a team with a power runner

also

Yeah he makes college Linebackers and Safteys look dumb but

Do you think guys like, Thomas, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Roy Williams, are gonna let him put those moves on them? He has no running power at all he is all speed, he will be the biggest bust since QB Ryan leaf

Even though they play diff positions :lol:


eeek i dont kno bout that one. if u give him time to adapt to the nfl i think he will be busting those moves on those players

Alex44
12-07-2005, 12:36 AM
eeek i dont kno bout that one. if u give him time to adapt to the nfl i think he will be busting those moves on those players


I really doubt it


The speed in the NFL is so much more than in college, and he will go down on the first hit in the nfl

That said if you give him a great O-line that can keep the Linebackers off him and get him into the secondary untouched he can have a solid career


I just see a lot of flaws in him thats all

Lucci
12-07-2005, 12:37 AM
yea he does need to get stronger and more built cuz im sure he wont be able to break tackles in the nfl

Alex44
12-07-2005, 12:42 AM
yea he does need to get stronger and more built cuz im sure he wont be able to break tackles in the nfl

He has great speed


But what happens on 4th and goal? he isnt the kind of guy to move the pile and get that extra push

he has great potential but also many weaknesses, he wont run up the middle, so teams will be able to sit on the outside and wait for him, I do think he can be a great punt returner though

who knows really

he could be the next Marshall Faulk type player, or he could be the next Michael Bennett who can run like the wind but never accomplishes anything really

NuttyFin
12-07-2005, 01:04 AM
But what happens on 4th and goal?

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/12/apcacunrruclausc1c5nhlg1sf-1.jpg




Reggie Bush is a good but in the right system he can be great.

Alex44
12-07-2005, 01:05 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/12/apcacunrruclausc1c5nhlg1sf-1.jpg


Even USC wont use him in goal line situations, you think he will be a successful Goal line NFL runner? he doesnt have the power

ether79
12-07-2005, 02:12 AM
Reggie Bush Will Be a bust

Okay now man, you're getting silly. First you say that Leinart will be nothing without Bush and will be a bust in the NFL and compared him Dorsey. Now you say that Bush will be a bust in the NFl. I'm sorry but you have as much credibility as my 6 year old niece when it comes to evaluating NFL talent. And now I will put you in my sig for these ridicuous statements.

BTW are you Vince Young???

dominizzo
12-07-2005, 03:14 AM
If Ronnie is on pace yeahhh why not?

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 03:49 AM
ah, it's good to be back

i don't know who this alex fellow is, but i read many of his posts since he's joined (whilst i was on "vacation"), and i love everything he says

dominizzo
12-07-2005, 04:00 AM
ah, it's good to be back

i don't know who this alex fellow is, but i read many of his posts since he's joined (whilst i was on "vacation"), and i love everything he says


where have you been kastoff

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 04:03 AM
i was banned

ether79
12-07-2005, 04:14 AM
ah, it's good to be back

i don't know who this alex fellow is, but i read many of his posts since he's joined (whilst i was on "vacation"), and i love everything he says

So Dorsey=Leinart..kast? just want your opinion?:)

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 04:23 AM
yeah. actually, dorsey is better than leinart. a better arm, more accurate, etc. and he doesn't do whacko things like get roommates and take dancing classes

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:29 AM
yeah. actually, dorsey is better than leinart. a better arm, more accurate, etc. and he doesn't do whacko things like get roommates and take dancing classes

I love the dancing lessons lol

I dont know if dorsey is better than leinart but they are both the same type of QB, guys that rely on the talent around them to elevate their game

Dorsey had a great record as a starter as does Leinart, Both guys based more on accuracy, both guys that had great WR's for them. Leinart had Mike Williams, Dorsey had Andre Johnson, Id go as far to say Leinart looks better because he has more weapons, I mean I think i could look decent if I had a back like reggie bush that can put up 500 all purpose yards in a game, and WR's that are both fast and can catch like that, Both had a great running game 'Bush/White for Leinart' and portis/mcgahee for dorsey

But look how ken dorsey looked when His RB got hurt in the fiesta bowl vs Ohio state, he looked decent, but nothing special, now take out reggie bush, and white, place in an average RB. How would Leinart look? maybe he has more pure talent than dorsey ever did, but I dont think he would look like a #1 overall pick

ether79
12-07-2005, 04:35 AM
yeah. actually, dorsey is better than leinart. a better arm, more accurate, etc. and he doesn't do whacko things like get roommates and take dancing classes

:rofl3: I missed you Kast.

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 04:38 AM
I love the dancing lessons lol

I dont know if dorsey is better than leinart but they are both the same type of QB, guys that rely on the talent around them to elevate their game

Dorsey had a great record as a starter as does Leinart, Both guys based more on accuracy, both guys that had great WR's for them. Leinart had Mike Williams, Dorsey had Andre Johnson, Id go as far to say Leinart looks better because he has more weapons, I mean I think i could look decent if I had a back like reggie bush that can put up 500 all purpose yards in a game, and WR's that are both fast and can catch like that, Both had a great running game 'Bush/White for Leinart' and portis/mcgahee for dorsey

But look how ken dorsey looked when His RB got hurt in the fiesta bowl vs Ohio state, he looked decent, but nothing special, now take out reggie bush, and white, place in an average RB. How would Leinart look? maybe he has more pure talent than dorsey ever did, but I dont think he would look like a #1 overall pick
VINCE YOUNG relies on the talent on his team quite a bit too buddy. his receivers make him look really good a LOT. leinart doesn't have this problem

ya see, leinart knows how to throw the ball with incredible accuracy. his receivers don't have to make adjustments to catch bad passes (like vince young). there has been times when the running game was average at best for USC. in the washington game, bush and white had their worst games of the season, and leinart completed 20 of 26 passes with 4 touchdowns. i don't care WHO is on his team, because that doesn't matter. you don't need great players on your team to make great decisions, make great reads before and after the ball is snap, and be incredibly accurate with all of your passes. okay? vince young is more like dorsey than leinart is

SMadison29
12-07-2005, 04:41 AM
I see that utter stupidity is running rampant in this thread.


The speed in the NFL is so much more than in college, and he will go down on the first hit in the nfl

Hasn't been hurt yet in college after more than 600 touches in college.


Yeah he makes college Linebackers and Safteys look dumb but

Do you think guys like, Thomas, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Roy Williams, are gonna let him put those moves on them? He has no running power at all he is all speed, he will be the biggest bust since QB Ryan leaf

Those guys won't have a choice on if Reggie puts a move on them or not because he's so agile. Barry Sanders & Reggie are pretty much identical backs. Barry didn't have a lot of power yet he was successful around the goal line when given the opportunity.


That said if you give him a great O-line that can keep the Linebackers off him and get him into the secondary untouched he can have a solid career

The same goes for every RB in the world. A RB has to make LBs miss & break tackles.


he has great potential but also many weaknesses, he wont run up the middle, so teams will be able to sit on the outside and wait for him, I do think he can be a great punt returner though

Have you seen any USC games? Reggie does run up the middle, quite often, but once he's through he can bounce it outside so quickly that nobody can catch him.


But what happens on 4th and goal? he isnt the kind of guy to move the pile and get that extra push

This is a requirement of a 1000 yard back or a great RB how? He hasn't been given the opportunity to do those things because of LenDale, & why should he? LenDale himself is a top 20 prospect.

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:44 AM
VINCE YOUNG relies on the talent on his team quite a bit too buddy. his receivers make him look really good a LOT. leinart doesn't have this problem

ya see, leinart knows how to throw the ball with incredible accuracy. his receivers don't have to make adjustments to catch bad passes (like vince young). there has been times when the running game was average at best for USC. in the washington game, bush and white had their worst games of the season, and leinart completed 20 of 26 passes with 4 touchdowns. i don't care WHO is on his team, because that doesn't matter. you don't need great players on your team to make great decisions, make great reads before and after the ball is snap, and be incredibly accurate with all of your passes. okay? vince young is more like dorsey than leinart is

Vince Young has more raw talent

At this point leinart is a far better QB yes, but in the long run I think Vince will be the guy, vince young isnt always right on target, but when he is on his game he hits WR's in stride, and if your going to tell me the texas running game is a good as USC's thats really a joke, or even that Texas has The WR's USC has would be laughable, I never said leinart wasnt a great player, or that he wasnt better than young at this point, look at alex smith drafted #1 overall last year, he is a smart QB, with great Accuracy but he really lacks top notch arm strength, thats what I see Leinart as even though Leinart will be a better NFL QB than smith can dream to be. Youngs passes arnt always perfect but he has more arm strength than leinart and puts the ball where it needs to be.

Simple as this

If you think Leinart is the second comeing of carson palmer

Sry keep dreaming

How can you compare Dorsey to Young btw, they have nothing in common

ether79
12-07-2005, 04:46 AM
I see that utter stupidity is running rampant in this thread.



Hasn't been hurt yet in college after more than 600 touches in college.



Those guys won't have a choice on if Reggie puts a move on them or not because he's so agile. Barry Sanders & Reggie are pretty much identical backs. Barry didn't have a lot of power yet he was successful around the goal line when given the opportunity.



The same goes for every RB in the world. A RB has to make LBs miss & break tackles.



Have you seen any USC games? Reggie does run up the middle, quite often, but once he's through he can bounce it outside so quickly that nobody can catch him.



This is a requirement of a 1000 yard back or a great RB how? He hasn't been given the opportunity to do those things because of LenDale, & why should he? LenDale himself is a top 20 prospect.

It hard to get your point through to a a guy that throws up 338 posts in a day..I might be wrong though,,therefore I put his silly thoughts in my sig to the best of my ability.

ether79
12-07-2005, 04:47 AM
Vince Young has more raw talent

At this point leinart is a far better QB yes, but in the long run I think Vince will be the guy, vince young isnt always right on target, but when he is on his game he hits WR's in stride, and if your going to tell me the texas running game is a good as USC's thats really a joke, or even that Texas has The WR's USC has would be laughable, I never said leinart wasnt a great player, or that he wasnt better than young at this point, look at alex smith drafted #1 overall last year, he is a smart QB, with great Accuracy but he really lacks top notch arm strength, thats what I see Leinart as even though Leinart will be a better NFL QB than smith can dream to be. Youngs passes arnt always perfect but he has more arm strength than leinart and puts the ball where it needs to be.

Simple as this

If you think Leinart is the second comeing of carson palmer

Sry keep dreaming

How can you compare Dorsey to Young btw, they have nothing in common

Seriously..are you Vince Young???

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:48 AM
I see that utter stupidity is running rampant in this thread.



Hasn't been hurt yet in college after more than 600 touches in college.



Those guys won't have a choice on if Reggie puts a move on them or not because he's so agile. Barry Sanders & Reggie are pretty much identical backs. Barry didn't have a lot of power yet he was successful around the goal line when given the opportunity.



The same goes for every RB in the world. A RB has to make LBs miss & break tackles.



Have you seen any USC games? Reggie does run up the middle, quite often, but once he's through he can bounce it outside so quickly that nobody can catch him.



This is a requirement of a 1000 yard back or a great RB how? He hasn't been given the opportunity to do those things because of LenDale, & why should he? LenDale himself is a top 20 prospect.


1- I wasnt refering to him being injured I was refering to him not breaking tackles

2- The holes for a RB in college are far bigger than in the NFL. he wont be a good up the middle back

3- No they dont have a choice on whether they get shaken or not, but the guys in the NFL are much better than the guys in college, thats why they are called 'Proffessionals'

4- This subject really is irrelivant until they are in the NFL and we have seen them play, what they do against college guys wont matter when they are in the NFL

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:49 AM
Seriously..are you Vince Young???


No im just saying how can you compare dorsey


A pocket passes, with accuracy

to

Young

A scrambler, with arm strength


leinart is more like dorsey in many regards than young is

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 04:50 AM
Vince Young has more raw talent

At this point leinart is a far better QB yes, but in the long run I think Vince will be the guy, vince young isnt always right on target, but when he is on his game he hits WR's in stride, and if your going to tell me the texas running game is a good as USC's thats really a joke, or even that Texas has The WR's USC has would be laughable, I never said leinart wasnt a great player, or that he wasnt better than young at this point, look at alex smith drafted #1 overall last year, he is a smart QB, with great Accuracy but he really lacks top notch arm strength, thats what I see Leinart as even though Leinart will be a better NFL QB than smith can dream to be. Youngs passes arnt always perfect but he has more arm strength than leinart and puts the ball where it needs to be.

Simple as this

If you think Leinart is the second comeing of carson palmer

Sry keep dreaming

How can you compare Dorsey to Young btw, they have nothing in common
1: raw talent means nothing. he can't read defenses
2: LOL, young does NOT have a stronger arm than leinart, not even close
3: leinart is the second coming of tom brady, which i'll take over carson palmer
4: young allows his receivers to make plays for him, like dorsey did in college. leinart makes his receivers look good most of the time

ether79
12-07-2005, 04:52 AM
No im just saying how can you compare dorsey


A pocket passes, with accuracy

to

Young

A scrambler, with arm strength


leinart is more like dorsey in many regards than young is


I can't seriously talk college football with you is my problem. Yo did say Dorsey=Leinart...therefore your thoughts=jets fans almost. I hope in the end you'd prove me wrong/

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:53 AM
1: raw talent means nothing. he can't read defenses
2: LOL, young does NOT have a stronger arm than leinart, not even close
3: leinart is the second coming of tom brady, which i'll take over carson palmer
4: young allows his receivers to make plays for him, like dorsey did in college. leinart makes his receivers look good most of the time


You say young is more like dorsey then compare dorsey to leinart

make up your mind please

1-when leinart steps into the pro's he wont be all that great at reading the defense either, and if young cant read defenses than he is superman because he sure makes a lot of plays for a guy you make seem like he has no clue

2- I do believe young has a stronger arm than leinart

3- Tom Brady is a system QB. Not saying he isnt a good QB but Ill take a star over a system QB

4- Thats great, but he also has far more talent around him than young has

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 04:55 AM
a system QB? brady? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? what the hell does that mean?

Alex44
12-07-2005, 04:58 AM
a system QB? brady? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? what the hell does that mean?



It means if you put brady on a team with no talent he will struggle, like he is this year, He can only win with the parts around him set up right

where as guys like

Manning or Vick, would have success no matter where they are, because they have more star talent and can make more out of nothing around them

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:00 AM
It means if you put brady on a team with no talent he will struggle, like he is this year, He can only win with the parts around him set up right

where as guys like

Manning or Vick, would have success no matter where they are, because they have more star talent and can make more out of nothing around them
tom brady leads the NFL in passing yards this year, and has a QB rating of 90.7. if that's struggling, i'll take it :rolleyes:

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:04 AM
tom brady leads the NFL in passing yards this year, and has a QB rating of 90.7. if that's struggling, i'll take it :rolleyes:


and how many wins has brady got this year?

6-5 isnt superstar ability

Brady plays within the system and does whats asked of him, which is great and he is a great QB, notice he only plays his best when his WR's are makeing the plays though and creating after the catch, he doesnt have that something out of nothing ability other guys have

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:06 AM
and how many wins has brady got this year?

6-5 isnt superstar ability

Brady plays within the system and does whats asked of him, which is great and he is a great QB, notice he only plays his best when his WR's are makeing the plays though and creating after the catch, he doesnt have that something out of nothing ability other guys have

Wow! Thats all I'll say.

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:08 AM
and how many wins has brady got this year?

6-5 isnt superstar ability

Brady plays within the system and does whats asked of him, which is great and he is a great QB, notice he only plays his best when his WR's are makeing the plays though and creating after the catch, he doesnt have that something out of nothing ability other guys have
the 6-5 record probably has something to do with his 29th ranked defense

EVERY great quarterback "plays within the system." look at the hall of fame. all guys who "played within the system." that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. if there's a system out there that can produce 3 super bowl champions, i'll gladly take it. especially considering since the QB in that "system" is playing well even outside of the "system"

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:09 AM
Wow! Thats all I'll say.


when brady gets a pass rush on him he is the type to try and do something he isnt capeable of, like against miami when he tried to throw falling backwards and threw a pick, He is a great QB but there are at least 7, or 8 other QB's id take ahead of him

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:09 AM
btw, your whole points on leinart and bush are that they will fail just because of the talent around them. believe it or not, not every great player came from a team with just horrible players and they were the only ones with any talent. err, ronnie brown, anyone?

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:10 AM
the 6-5 record probably has something to do with his 29th ranked defense

EVERY great quarterback "plays within the system." look at the hall of fame. all guys who "played within the system." that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. if there's a system out there that can produce 3 super bowl champions, i'll gladly take it. especially considering since the QB in that "system" is playing well even outside of the "system"


Brady = NFL's most over rated QB, and is givin far to much credit for his lack of physical ability

without his WR's he is nothing

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:11 AM
btw, your whole points on leinart and bush are that they will fail just because of the talent around them. believe it or not, not every great player came from a team with just horrible players and they were the only ones with any talent. err, ronnie brown, anyone?


My problem with bush isnt the talent around him

Its the fact he wont put the moves on NFL guys, and he wont break tackles in the NFL, and he will be over powerd in goal line and short yardage situations

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:12 AM
Brady plays within the system and does whats asked of him, notice he only plays his best when his WR's are makeing the plays though and creating after the catch, he doesnt have that something out of nothing ability other guys have

I have to add this too.

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:13 AM
Brady = NFL's most over rated QB, and is givin far to much credit for his lack of physical ability

without his WR's he is nothing

Damn you keep topping what I want to add to my sig.

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:14 AM
Damn you keep topping what I want to add to my sig.

In 2 years when leinart is a bust, we will see what you sig says, maybe mine will have all your posts in them

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:15 AM
Brady = NFL's most over rated QB, and is givin far to much credit for his lack of physical ability

without his WR's he is nothing
yeah, with all those great receivers he has....

once again, it doesn't matter who your receivers are when you can thread a needle like brady can. and can't you say the same thing about manning? he was one of your "non-system" QBs you mentioned earlier. what's the difference exactly? i'll take harrison and reggie wayne over any receiver brady has, and edgerrin james over corey dillon

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:17 AM
My problem with bush isnt the talent around him

Its the fact he wont put the moves on NFL guys, and he wont break tackles in the NFL, and he will be over powerd in goal line and short yardage situations
actually he will make the moves and he will break the tackles. goalline? pfft, that's not even a concern. backs with his explosiveness from the handoff aren't going to be stopped in short yardage situations. they don't use bush for those situation at USC because they don't have to, and because white is pretty good at it, too

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:17 AM
yeah, with all those great receivers he has....

once again, it doesn't matter who your receivers are when you can thread a needle like brady can. and can't you say the same thing about manning? he was one of your "non-system" QBs you mentioned earlier. what's the difference exactly? i'll take harrison and reggie wayne over any receiver brady has, and edgerrin james over corey dillon


The diffence is Manning has more arm strength and accuracy than brady

NE has the most under rated WR's in the league

Example Tom Brady didnt beat miami, Tim Dwight did, he caught a ball that should have been an interception to close out the game, hell when your WR's turn INT's into 50 yard gains lots of guys look good

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:18 AM
In 2 years when leinart is a bust, we will see what you sig says, maybe mine will have all your posts in them

no but add this to your sig.

VINCE YOUNG WILL NEVER BE A SUCCESSFUL NFL QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:22 AM
The diffence is Manning has more arm strength and accuracy than brady

NE has the most under rated WR's in the league

Example Tom Brady didnt beat miami, Tim Dwight did, he caught a ball that should have been an interception to close out the game, hell when your WR's turn INT's into 50 yard gains lots of guys look good

Do you watch football? Peyton's recievers are much better than Brady's WR and have always been.

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:23 AM
The diffence is Manning has more arm strength and accuracy than brady

NE has the most under rated WR's in the league

Example Tom Brady didnt beat miami, Tim Dwight did, he caught a ball that should have been an interception to close out the game, hell when your WR's turn INT's into 50 yard gains lots of guys look good
what? because dwight caught the PERFECTLY THROWN PASS, that means dwight gets all the credit? that's not how it works. leinart threw a similar pass against notre dame on the last drive of the game that was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, clearing the defender's hands by no more than an inch. of course, he changed the play before the snap and made an extremly gusty decision, but whatever...his receiver did it for him, right?

manning has more arm strength and accuracy, but brady makes better decisions. he always has. and most importantly: he doesn't get flustered under pressure, unlike manning, who makes some of the worst decisions imaginable when he gets even the slighest bit of a pressure. you wanna talk about a guy who relies on his teammates....lol, imagine manning with no offensive line. he'd be a disaster

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:24 AM
Do you watch football? Peyton's recievers are much better than Brady's WR and have always been.


yes I know peyton have better WR's thats not what im disputeing


First of all

Strickly from a physical ability level, peyton is better

second

Brady's WR's are not the best in the league but they are highly under rated

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:25 AM
what? because dwight caught the PERFECTLY THROWN PASS, that means dwight gets all the credit? that's not how it works. leinart threw a similar pass against notre dame on the last drive of the game that was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, clearing the defender's hands by no more than an inch. of course, he changed the play before the snap and made an extremly gusty decision, but whatever...his receiver did it for him, right?




watch that play again buddy


The ball was in Reggie Howards hands, tim dwight reached in and took it away, watch the play again

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:29 AM
i refuse to believe reggie howard made a bad play

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:29 AM
yStrickly from a physical ability level, peyton is bettter

I could truly almost DISPUTE that.

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:30 AM
i refuse to believe reggie howard made a bad play


reggie howard has made several bad plays this season

That was one of them

ether79
12-07-2005, 05:30 AM
i refuse to believe reggie howard made a bad play

:yeahthat: :spit:

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:38 AM
we can settle this before draft day


Rose Bowl

USC vs Texas

Leinart vs Young

after that game we will come back and compare, for now its basically just saying who we think is better, after that game, we will have a better feeling of it

maybe Leinart will do something to sway my opinion

and

Maybe Vince will do something to sway yours

who knows

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:41 AM
i usually base my opinions on players on more than one game. the 20+ games i've watched with leinart are more than enough for me to know how well he is. the 8+ games with young i've seen are more than enough

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:42 AM
i usually base my opinions on players on more than one game. the 20+ games i've watched with leinart are more than enough for me to know how well he is. the 8+ games with young i've seen are more than enough


Ive seen about 7 of both of them

and from what ive seen I like young

Besides they will be head to head

perfect time to compare

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 05:44 AM
lol, not really, as young will look awful and leinart will play great

Alex44
12-07-2005, 05:49 AM
lol, not really, as young will look awful and leinart will play great


Your very closed minded unwilling to even look at all the potential young has


I refuse further comment on this until after the rose bowl

K-train
12-07-2005, 05:59 PM
I dont think Reggie Bush has to bulk up to much. Warrick Dunn is like 5,8 180, Brian Westbrook is 5'8 200.

kastofsna120
12-07-2005, 06:46 PM
bush does need to bulk up slightly. but he's also 6 foot even, taller than most people think