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TerryTate
12-15-2005, 07:48 PM
I was thinking about this for awhile now, and Steve Kerr just now brought up the possibility as well. I figured I would then post my thoughts..

Indiana may get desperate in the disposal of Ron Artest, and a possibility is there for Artest to land in Miami. This is what I want to see happen, since Artest's value is not very high right now. It still isn't likely since they will probably meet down the road in the playoffs...

This is what I want to see happen:

Indiana gets:
Antoine Walker
Michael Doleac
Draft Pick

Miami gets:
Ron Artest

If anyone can pull off a steal of a trade, it's PAT RILEY. COME ON PAT!

I think the presence of Riley will keep Artest in line, since he needs a fresh start.

PG Jason Williams/Gary Payton
SG D-Wade
SF Ron Artest
PF Udonis Haslem
C Shaquille O'Neal

FinsNYanksFan13
12-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Stephen A. was actually the first one to mention that trade last night on Quite Frankly. I don't like the trade for the Pacers but it looks like their desperate to get rid of Artest. Something tells me the Knicks will be involved. Isiah was stern last night saying this team needs change immediately!

FinsNYanksFan13
12-15-2005, 07:54 PM
Plus I don't think Pat likes Artest. Remember that had that blow up on the sideline a couple of years back but your right, if anyone can keep Artest in check, it's Shaq!

Buddwalk
12-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Doubt It

Heres what i thinks gonna happen

Pacers Get

Quentin Richarson
Jamal Crawford
David Lee

Knicks Get

Ron Artest

FinsNYanksFan13
12-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Buddwalk, that trade would be dynamite but the contracts don't work out. Artest signed a 5 years 28 million. Crawford alone makes a lot more then that (and Richardson makes even more)!

Firesole
12-15-2005, 08:16 PM
I was thinking about this for awhile now, and Steve Kerr just now brought up the possibility as well. I figured I would then post my thoughts..

Indiana may get desperate in the disposal of Ron Artest, and a possibility is there for Artest to land in Miami. This is what I want to see happen, since Artest's value is not very high right now. It still isn't likely since they will probably meet down the road in the playoffs...

This is what I want to see happen:

Indiana gets:
Antoine Walker
Michael Doleac
Draft Pick

Miami gets:
Ron Artest

If anyone can pull off a steal of a trade, it's PAT RILEY. COME ON PAT!

I think the presence of Riley will keep Artest in line, since he needs a fresh start.

PG Jason Williams/Gary Payton
SG D-Wade
SF Ron Artest
PF Udonis Haslem
C Shaquille O'Neal
And how come you aren't a Magic fan?

SuavePhin
12-15-2005, 08:22 PM
And how come you aren't a Magic fan?

He's smarter then that?
:D ;)

Firesole
12-15-2005, 08:23 PM
He's smarter then that?
:D ;)
Sounds more like Bandwagonry if you ask me! I don't know of many Heat fans in Orlando, let alone of anyone in Orlando that roots for Shaq!

SuavePhin
12-15-2005, 08:26 PM
Sounds more like Bandwagonry if you ask me! I don't know of many Heat fans in Orlando, let alone of anyone in Orlando that roots for Shaq!


This isn't real estate, location location location means nothing, Hell look at the teams on my sig and im in freakin Montana :tongue:

TerryTate
12-15-2005, 08:30 PM
And how come you aren't a Magic fan?

I was born in Miami, lived in kendall and up in Broward county (coral Springs)...all of which was within 40-50 miles of the Miami Arena/American Airlines Arena my whole life. I left south florida to go to college in Orlando, and miss watching my heat on a daily (or every other day) basis.

Is that good enough for you?


And yes, I was around for the glory days of Rony Seikaly and Sherman Douglas when I was a little kid! :lol:

Firesole
12-15-2005, 08:36 PM
I was born in Miami, lived in kendall and up in Broward county (coral Springs)...all of which was within 40-50 miles of the Miami Arena/American Airlines Arena my whole life. I left south florida to go to college in Orlando, and miss watching my heat on a daily (or every other day) basis.

Is that good enough for you?


And yes, I was around for the glory days of Rony Seikaly and Sherman Douglas when I was a little kid! :lol:

I guess that's good enough. I was just curious since I see you're in Orlando. If you remember the glory days, then you remember the trophy that was passed from team to team the first few years when they were both new franchises. It was almost like the championship trophy except it had a flat basketball on it. Miami stopped supporting that rivalry because they didn't want to embrace how bad they were, LOL.

TerryTate
12-15-2005, 09:05 PM
I guess that's good enough. I was just curious since I see you're in Orlando. If you remember the glory days, then you remember the trophy that was passed from team to team the first few years when they were both new franchises. It was almost like the championship trophy except it had a flat basketball on it. Miami stopped supporting that rivalry because they didn't want to embrace how bad they were, LOL.

"I guess that's good enough." :lol:

That's more than good enough....I've loved heat basketball since I can remember, even when they have been terrible (which has been the bulk of thier franchise history).

phunwin
12-15-2005, 10:02 PM
And yes, I was around for the glory days of Rony Seikaly and Sherman Douglas when I was a little kid! :lol:

I was around for Seikaly and Douglas's real glory days....I'm a Syracuse fan. :D

phunwin
12-15-2005, 10:05 PM
I absolutely do NOT understand all the Walker/Artest trade talk. Indiana would have to be three steps beyond desperate to trade Artest for 'Toine. An All-Star forward (albeit a mentally unbalanced one) with a reasonable contract for an unrepentant gunner whose defense has slipped several notches, doesn't like coming off the bench AND is due $54 million over 6 years?

Even if they're resigned to getting 75 cents on the dollar for Artest, Larry Bird can certainly do better than that.

PHINATIC13
12-15-2005, 10:31 PM
I'm still trying figure out what you all consider "glory days".:rofl3:

TerryTate
12-16-2005, 04:40 PM
I was clearly sarcastic. In simpler terms, I've been following the heat since I can remember, when they sucked back in the early 90s

Firesole
12-16-2005, 04:57 PM
I'm still trying figure out what you all consider "glory days".:rofl3:

The Magic's glory days were when Shaq was there, obviously. Hey, at least they have made it to the finals once. It's pretty sad that they let one of the best all time big men go to another team, then only a few years later they trade another potential hall of famer to the Rockets. You can see why I really don't follow the Magic anymore.

ether79
12-16-2005, 07:58 PM
I was thinking about this for awhile now, and Steve Kerr just now brought up the possibility as well. I figured I would then post my thoughts..

Indiana may get desperate in the disposal of Ron Artest, and a possibility is there for Artest to land in Miami. This is what I want to see happen, since Artest's value is not very high right now. It still isn't likely since they will probably meet down the road in the playoffs...

This is what I want to see happen:

Indiana gets:
Antoine Walker
Michael Doleac
Draft Pick

Miami gets:
Ron Artest

If anyone can pull off a steal of a trade, it's PAT RILEY. COME ON PAT!

I think the presence of Riley will keep Artest in line, since he needs a fresh start.

PG Jason Williams/Gary Payton
SG D-Wade
SF Ron Artest
PF Udonis Haslem
C Shaquille O'Neal

I truly think that is the least possible of a scenarios. It might happen but a very low probability. On the local news a little while ago Walsh was interviewed and said he had fielded calls from around 14 teams and he was seriously considering 3-4 of them. They asked him if any of the 3-4 where to teams that the Pacers are contending with in the East and he said no.

tucker
12-16-2005, 08:48 PM
he's not gonna tell his real answer..lol

PHINATIC13
12-16-2005, 09:46 PM
The Magic's glory days were when Shaq was there, obviously. Hey, at least they have made it to the finals once. It's pretty sad that they let one of the best all time big men go to another team, then only a few years later they trade another potential hall of famer to the Rockets. You can see why I really don't follow the Magic anymore.


I get it I was being sarcastic:rolleyes:. Usually winning a Championship(s) are considered "glory days" I was just poking fun at Orlando(swept by Houston in 95').No harm intented.:)

phunwin
12-17-2005, 04:54 PM
I truly think that is the least possible of a scenarios. It might happen but a very low probability. On the local news a little while ago Walsh was interviewed and said he had fielded calls from around 14 teams and he was seriously considering 3-4 of them. They asked him if any of the 3-4 where to teams that the Pacers are contending with in the East and he said no.

I'm with you. That strikes me as a deal Indiana would look at only if every other option were terrible. With 12-14 teams (I've heard this as well) interested, it's unlikely that they would have to settle for 'Toine and some crap for Artest.

That said, I'm wondering why they would be so reluctant to trade Artest to an Eastern competitor. Let's not beat around the bush: the guy's nucking futs, and the chances of him doing something crazy and sabotaging Miami, Detroit, Cleveland or Milwaukee's season have got to be at least 25-30%.