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SMadison29
12-16-2005, 03:28 AM
First Round
1 - NY Jets (Hou*) - QB - M.Leinart, USC
2 - San Francisco - RB - R.Bush, USC*
3 - Houston (NYJ*) - LT - D.Ferguson, Virginia
4 - New Orleans - QB - V.Young, Texas*
5 - Green Bay - OLB - A.Hawk, Ohio St
6 - Tennessee - DE - M.Williams, NC State*
7 - Buffalo - DT - H.Ngata, Oregon*
8 - Cleveland - CB - J.Williams, Va Tech
9 - Arizona - DE - M.Kiwanuka, BC
10 - Detroit - DE - T.Hali, Penn St
11 - Baltimore - LT - J.Thomas, Wisconsin*
12 - Oakland - OLB - D.Ryans, Alabama
13 - St.Louis - FS - M.Huff, Texas
14 - Philadelphia - WR - S.Holmes, Ohio St*
15 - Miami - OLB - C.Greenway, Iowa
16 - Denver (Was) - TE - V.Davis, Maryland*
17 - Minnesota - RB - L.Maroney, Minnesota*
18 - Atlanta - SS - D.Bing, USC*
19 - Pittsburgh - RB - L.White, USC*
20 - Kansas City - DT - C.Wroten, LSU
21 - New England - OT - W.Justice, USC*
22 - Dallas - QB - J.Cutler, Vanderbilt
23 - San Diego - FS - L.Landry, LSU*
24 - Tampa Bay - LT - E.Winston, Miami
25 - Chicago - TE - M.Lewis, UCLA
26 - Jacksonville - CB - T.Hill, Clemson
27 - Carolina - RB - D.Williams, Memphis
28 - NY Giants - DT - O.Harris, Miami
29 - Cincinnati - DE - E.Dumervil, Louisville
30 - Denver - DT - R.Wright, Texas
31 - Seattle - WR - D.Hagan, Arizona St
32 - Indianapolis - OLB - T.Howard, UTEP

Second Round
33 - Houston - TE - L.Pope, Georgia*
34 - San Francisco - RT - M.McNeill, Auburn
35 - New Orleans - OLB - B.Carpenter, Ohio St
36 - Green Bay - DT - G.Watson, Michigan
37 - Houston (NYJ*) C - N.Mangold, Ohio St
38 - Buffalo - LT - J.Scott, Texas
39 - Cleveland - WR - C.Jackson, Florida*
40 - Arizona - ILB - D.Jackson, Maryland
41 - Detroit - SS - B.Pollard, Purdue*
42 - Baltimore - QB - O.Jacobs, Bowling Green
43 - Oakland - CB - K.Jennings, Miami
44 - Tennessee - LT - A.Whitworth, LSU
45 - Philadelphia - OLB - A.Nicholson, Florida St
46 - St.Louis - DE - M.Lawson, NC State
47 - Miami - G - M.Jean-Gilles, Georgia
48 - Washington - WR - J.Hill, Washington St*
49 - Atlanta - DE - D.Tapp, Va Tech
50 - Pittsburgh - CB - D.Minter, Georgia
51 - Kansas City - WR - S.Moss, Miami
52 - New England - CB - A.Phillips, Penn St
53 - Dallas - FS - A.Smith, Syracuse
54 - San Diego - ILB - A.Hodge, Iowa
55 - Minnesota - RT - R.O'Callaghan, California
56 - Chicago - G - J.Spitz, Louisville
57 - Jacksonville - DE - R.Edwards, Purdue
58 - Carolina - DT - B.Bunkley, Florida St
59 - NY Giants - CB - A.Zemaitis, Penn St
60 - Tampa Bay - C - G.Eslinger, Minnesota
61 - Denver - OT - D.Colledge, Boise St
62 - Cincinnati - DT - K.Williams, LSU
63 - Seattle - DE - K.Wimbley, Florida St
64 - Indianapolis - WR - D.Williams, Oregon

Third Round
65 - Houston - ILB - G.Wilkinson, Ga Tech
66 - San Francisco - TE - D.Byrd, USC
67 - Green Bay - RB - J.Addai, LSU
68 - NY Jets - DT - D.Dvoracek, Oklahoma
69 - Houston (NO) - WR - H.Baskett, New Mexico
70 - Cleveland - DT - B.Oshinowo, Stanford
71 - Arizona - DT - J.Mahelona, Tennessee
72 - Detroit - CB - C.Griffin, Texas
73 - New England (Balt) LB - R.McIntosh, Miami
74 - Oakland - DT - T.Adams, Nebraska
75 - Buffalo (Tenn) - RB - B.Calhoun, Wisconsin*
76 - Buffalo - C - R.Cook, New Mexico
77 - St.Louis - TE - J.Klopfenstein, Colorado
78 - Philadelphia - RT - J.Trueblood, Boston College
79 - Miami - DB - J.Allen, Tennessee
80 - Washington - SS - G.Blue, Georgia
81 - Pittsburgh - WR - M.Nance, Miami Ohio
82 - Kansas City - QB - B.Croyle, Alabama
83 - New England - WR - M.Stovall, Notre Dame
84 - Dallas - OL - D.Joseph, Oklahoma
85 - San Diego - DE - B.Atkins, Miami*
86 - Minnesota - SS - D.Slay, Texas Tech
87 - Atlanta - CB - M.Maxey, Miami
88 - Jacksonville - OLB - C.Vaughn, LSU
89 - Carolina - WR - J.Avant, Michigan
90 - NY Giants - OLB - S.Havner, UCLA
91 - Tampa Bay - CB - D.Hunter, Miami Ohio
92 - Chicago - SS - J.Bullocks, Nebraska
93 - Cincinnati - OLB - K.Simon, Tennessee
94 - Denver - WR - M.Hass, Oregon St
95 - Seattle - C - M.Degory, Florida
96 - Indianapolis - ILB - A.Schlegal, Ohio St

Significant assumptions:
David Carr, John Abraham, Julian Peterson, LeCharles Bentley, Nate Clements, Jamal Lewis/Chester Taylor, Jeff Backus, Jeff Garcia, Adam Archuleta, Ryan Pickett, Drew Brees, Antwan Randle-El, Shaun Alexander, & Edgerrin James all resign with or be franchised by their respective teams.

Darren Howard, Ahman Green, Antonio Bryant, Charles Woodson, Terrell Owens(duh), Sam Cowart, Will Allen, DeShaun Foster, Steve Hutchinson, & Reggie Wayne all leave via free agency.

Aaron Brooks will be cut.

Jerome Bettis retires.

Notables staying in school: Brady Quinn, Drew Stanton, Michael Bush, Maurice Drew, Steve Smith, Greg Lee, Jeff Samardzija, Levi Brown, Justin Blalock, Kyle Young, Gaines Adams, Quentin Moses, Ahmad Brooks, Patrick Willis, H.B. Blades, Paul Posluszny, Ernie Sims, Ashton Youboty, Devin Hester, Charles Gordon, Richard Marshall, Brandon Meriweather, Donte Whitner, Michael Griffin, & Ko Simpson.

*Projected trade: NY Jets trade this year's 1st & 2nd rounders along with future picks to Houston for #1 overall.

DonShula84
12-16-2005, 03:33 AM
83 - New England - WR - M.Stovall, Notre Dame

Horrible mock ;)

RAS25
12-16-2005, 03:39 AM
i would kill for this to be our draft.....but i can almost guarantee that kyle young will come out..when fresno st was in town i talked with some friends and some knew kyle really well and said he would come out... i belive boomer reported it somewhere on here that he and marshall will come out

PeaTearGriffin
12-16-2005, 05:12 AM
nice mock smad, i agree about the texans trading down...a lot of my friends(one being a texans fan) think there is no way they pass on bush

Motion
12-16-2005, 08:05 AM
Do the Jets have the cap room to keep Abraham plus trade up to the #1 overall and pay QB money????

Buddwalk
12-16-2005, 09:18 AM
Pretty good mock im doing another after week 15 :D

LIQUID24
12-16-2005, 09:35 AM
I'd be fairly shocked if the Jets took Leinart over Bush. Other than that, pretty good mock. I'd be happy with that draft.

Oboy
12-16-2005, 09:53 AM
Not to shabby... I like the picks the fins get anyway. But I thought that Saban said somewhere he doesn't like to use first day picks on Olineman. Something about good olinemen are developed...

Oh, and I thought I read somewhere that Ernie Sims said he is coming out...

Oboy
12-16-2005, 09:55 AM
Oh... just noticed, I think we would take Minter over Miles in the second round.

Minter has really dominated wr's this year. Plus he is tough against the run... sounds like a perfect Saban kind of kid...

Buddwalk
12-16-2005, 10:06 AM
wait taking a closer look now couple things i see wrong Harris from miami in the first round is about 2 rounds higher then the kids actually gonna go. Gabe Watson is imo a first round lock right now his stock has soared higher then any dts except ngatas and should easily be a top 20 pick. Martin Nance in the 3rd, the kids done everything he could possibly do this year and his stock as far as im concearned is pretty high. 2nd round at worst ;)

_dan24
12-16-2005, 12:14 PM
no qb?

Philter25
12-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Smad:

Where do we get our QB from? Free Agency?

Also, do you seriously think Max JeanGiles will fall THAT far into the 2nd round? Personally I think he is a late 1st round pick and I would definately grab him up if he falls that far in the second, but I dont see it happening. I think he is a sure fire cant miss OG stud in the NFL and I would love to grab him.... but I dont think its possible.

Do the Jets plan on keeping Pennington for a year and then cut him and just suck up the cap hit? That would be a good trade for Houston because they can get the position of need and save cash on him and get more draft picks. But I dont know if the Jets need to make that trade.

If Carr resigns with Houston, I highly doubt SF drafts a QB and if I am drafting 3rd, the only way I trade up for Leinart is if I feel another team is willing to trade up and jump me to get Leinart. Therefore who do you feel might trade up to get Leinart in the 1st or 2nd spot? That would be the only reasoning the Jets would make that trade if they seriously felt another team was going to jump them.

Im just curious to your line of thinking for the Jets future and why Max will fall that far and what QB you think we get in free agency.

Buddwalk
12-16-2005, 12:38 PM
also saw something else i dont really like Mangold going to houston in the 2nd is like a round or 2 high for that guy...Eslinger is the best center in the draft. If there sitting there with that extra secound round pick they will not pass on Max Jean-Gilles ;) . Also for houston Leonard Pope would be a great pick but that teams defense really sucks so i could easily see them going dbrick round 1 then just taking defense the rest of the way ;)

Motion
12-16-2005, 12:52 PM
Do the Jets plan on keeping Pennington for a year and then cut him and just suck up the cap hit? That would be a good trade for Houston because they can get the position of need and save cash on him and get more draft picks. But I dont know if the Jets need to make that trade.

Im just curious to your line of thinking for the Jets future.

Yeah me too, I don't think they have the cap room to keep Abraham and sign Leinart to #1 overall QB money.

RAS25
12-16-2005, 01:52 PM
also saw something else i dont really like Mangold going to houston in the 2nd is like a round or 2 high for that guy...Eslinger is the best center in the draft. If there sitting there with that extra secound round pick they will not pass on Max Jean-Gilles ;) . Also for houston Leonard Pope would be a great pick but that teams defense really sucks so i could easily see them going dbrick round 1 then just taking defense the rest of the way ;)

i think kyle young will have somthin to say about that;) ...also it seems eslinger is a system center and would only work in denver or atlantas scheme

Buddwalk
12-16-2005, 02:29 PM
i think kyle young will have somthin to say about that;) ...also it seems eslinger is a system center and would only work in denver or atlantas scheme

Nah...i actually forgot about Ryan Cook the big 6''7 320 lb Center from New Mexico. Hes real big and his wingspan doesnt allow lbs to get by him...in college anyway ;)

Prime
12-16-2005, 03:02 PM
I like the mock man, but where do we get our QB for the future at?

TjHawk
12-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Who cares about a qb if we get greenway. Instant stud I would sell my soul for both roth and greeny on the dolphs

RAS25
12-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Who cares about a qb if we get greenway. Instant stud I would sell my soul for both roth and greeny on the dolphs

we are halfway there bro.i really do believe that if greenway is there when we pick he will be a phin....he is a total saban player and a absolute monster who can come and immediatley fill seaus spot :up: lets bring him to the phins nick:)

dm416
12-16-2005, 11:07 PM
47 - Miami - G - M.Jean-Gilles, Georgia

I would love to get him, but I doubt he'll that that long

byroan
12-16-2005, 11:07 PM
I like the mock man, but where do we get our QB for the future at?

Erik Meyer in the 4th. :D

Buddwalk
12-16-2005, 11:19 PM
Erik Meyer in the 4th. :D

:yes: biggest sleeper in the draft imo ;)

Also having a lb rotation that looks like

Crowder
Thomas
Greenway

now thats awesome :evil:

kastofsna120
12-17-2005, 01:22 AM
i'd rather get a good quarterback than erik meyer in the 4th and greenway in the 1st

SMadison29
12-17-2005, 01:44 AM
Oh... just noticed, I think we would take Minter over Miles in the second round.

Minter has really dominated wr's this year. Plus he is tough against the run... sounds like a perfect Saban kind of kid...

Thought about it but I think it comes down to BPA & with Poole coming back I don't really see CB as that great a need to overtake that BPA.


wait taking a closer look now couple things i see wrong Harris from miami in the first round is about 2 rounds higher then the kids actually gonna go.

Two rounds higher than he's gonna go? He played great this year & his stock is way up to about where it was after his sophomore year, & I may actually have him going too low. He's Kiper's #10 overall player (no underclassmen) which is his #1 DT, & Scout Inc's Todd McShay has him as their #17 overall player (underclassmen included) which is their #2 DT behind only Ngata.


Eslinger is the best center in the draft.

He's not very big & is too much of a finese blocker. He's a Broncos type olineman. Mangold is actually the top rated center, has a mean streak & a bull like run blocker.

byroan
12-17-2005, 01:58 AM
i'd rather get a good quarterback than erik meyer in the 4th and greenway in the 1st

So would I. I like Meyer but he wouldn't be ready until his 3rd season at the minimum. We can't afford to wait that long.

SMadison29
12-17-2005, 02:02 AM
Gabe Watson is imo a first round lock right now his stock has soared higher then any dts except ngatas and should easily be a top 20 pick.

His stock isn't up that high, it's actually down because of that "fat, slow, lazy" thing. He's not one of Kiper's top 7 senior DTs & isn't one of Scout Inc's top 5 DTs, which isn't on either's big board.


Where do we get our QB from? Free Agency?

At this point, yes. It may even be *gulp* Frerotte again. Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks, Joey Harrington, Jeff Garcia, or Kurt Warner could be options. I'd love for us to get Brees but that probably isn't going to happen. Looking for a QB of the future will be much easier next offseason with Brady Quinn, Drew Stanton, Marcus Vick, Sam Keller, & Jordan Palmer in the draft, Schaub will be an RFA, Ramsey, Simms, & Ragone will be UFAs.


If Carr resigns with Houston, I highly doubt SF drafts a QB and if I am drafting 3rd, the only way I trade up for Leinart is if I feel another team is willing to trade up and jump me to get Leinart. Therefore who do you feel might trade up to get Leinart in the 1st or 2nd spot? That would be the only reasoning the Jets would make that trade if they seriously felt another team was going to jump them.

Right now, from what I've read anyway, if any team trades up to #1 it will be to grab Leinart because of the thin QB class & so many teams in the top 15 of the draft needing QBs. The Jets could feel insecure with New Orleans, Tennessee, Arizona, Detroit, Baltimore, Oakland, & us.


Also, do you seriously think Max JeanGiles will fall THAT far into the 2nd round? Personally I think he is a late 1st round pick and I would definately grab him up if he falls that far in the second, but I dont see it happening. I think he is a sure fire cant miss OG stud in the NFL and I would love to grab him.... but I dont think its possible.

From the respectable sources I read Gilles is around #25 of senior prospects. I got slightly away from the BPA theory I use because olinemen such as Mangold or Whitworth should not be taken ahead of Gilles. But someone unexpected does fall in every draft, & two of our top young players from the past two drafts are examples of that (Poole & Crowder).


Do the Jets plan on keeping Pennington for a year and then cut him and just suck up the cap hit? That would be a good trade for Houston because they can get the position of need and save cash on him and get more draft picks. But I dont know if the Jets need to make that trade.

My guess would be that they cut him now & take their losses on a bad investment. He's due $6M base salary alone next year. Restructuring that only to cut him in 07 would be foolish because it'll be even more of a cap hit.

SMadison29
12-17-2005, 02:37 AM
Also for houston Leonard Pope would be a great pick but that teams defense really sucks so i could easily see them going dbrick round 1 then just taking defense the rest of the way

This is something I've thought about a good bit. Yes their defense is bad, especially their run D that's the NFL's worst. With Capers getting canned they'll likely switch to a 4-3 D, which can only help their run D with rotating DTs Gary Walker/Seth Payne (one will be released), Robaire Smith, & Travis Johnson. Also, with their putrid offense improving, especially Carr's time to find open receivers their D wouldn't be on the field as long.


Do the Jets have the cap room to keep Abraham plus trade up to the #1 overall and pay QB money????

That's something I didn't do any research on, so I'll start. Law is due a lot of money & will be cut because of an enormous roster bonus. Martin is due $6.2M in base next year, that ain't happening. 32 year old olineman Pete Kendall & Jason Fabini are due a combined $7.5M in base, again, that aint happening. So this is very easily manageable, at glance, through cap casualties & restructuring. Also, Alex Smith's cap # this year is $4.5M so it's not that out of reach.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR

John Abraham has no interest in being the Jets' franchise player next offseason, according to the New York Post. He wants a long-term deal so that he can remain with the Jets. ... Curtis Martin's future with the Jets will revolve around a certai, according to the Newark Star-Ledger. He's slated to earn $8.1 million next season and says he has no intention of retiring.

HysterikiLL
12-17-2005, 03:18 AM
That's a pretty good mock. IMO Rod Wright will impress a lot of people at the combine and move up but I'm sure that's the case with a lot of guys. I'd be pretty happy with that draft as I like all 3 guys you have us taking (Remember when Ronnie squashed Jason Allen by the way ;)).

MelbournePhin
12-17-2005, 01:02 PM
broderick bunkley is a round one pick.

Buddwalk
12-17-2005, 01:11 PM
Heres the DTS i see going ahead of Orien Harris

Haloti Ngata
Gabe Watson
Rodrique Wright
Claude Wroten
Jesse Mahelona

So imo i think harris is the 6th best DT on the board i'd take the kid for depth in the 3rd but him going in the first he'd have to have a huge combine imo...;)

Your right about Nick Mangold though hes very good...i just felt eslinger did a better job this year but your right again hes a finesse blocker making him fit a denver system. I still love Ryan Cook from new mexico that kids a monster :D

MelbournePhin
12-17-2005, 01:49 PM
Heres the DTS i see going ahead of Orien Harris

Haloti Ngata
Gabe Watson
Rodrique Wright
Claude Wroten
Jesse Mahelona

So imo i think harris is the 6th best DT on the board i'd take the kid for depth in the 3rd but him going in the first he'd have to have a huge combine imo...;)

Your right about Nick Mangold though hes very good...i just felt eslinger did a better job this year but your right again hes a finesse blocker making him fit a denver system. I still love Ryan Cook from new mexico that kids a monster :D


bunkley should also be ahead of harris, hes third best behind nagota and wright

Buddwalk
12-17-2005, 01:57 PM
bunkley should also be ahead of harris, hes third best behind nagota and wright
Not sure on that man...i really feel that Wroten has had an excellent season and is a first round lock ;)

MelbournePhin
12-17-2005, 02:16 PM
Not sure on that man...i really feel that Wroten has had an excellent season and is a first round lock ;)

fair enough. bunkley still should go late round one

SMadison29
12-18-2005, 06:12 PM
Bunkley is up high but I have yet to see anyone with him higher than either Ngata, or Harris & only a one with him ahead of Wroten. Mahelona's stock is way down, about #10 DT.

Toneboy
12-18-2005, 06:53 PM
Significant assumptions:
Matt Millen still being in a job in Detroit and making a complete waste of the Lions' picks ahead of us? ;)

Nappy Roots
12-18-2005, 07:27 PM
Gabe Watson
Jesse Mahelona


i cant see those 2 being ahead of Harris, or even Bunkley for that matter.

Buddwalk
12-18-2005, 07:38 PM
i cant see those 2 being ahead of Harris, or even Bunkley for that matter.

We'll see its all just speculation now for all we know the first DT could be Dvoracek