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TerryTate
12-29-2005, 03:07 AM
It's from someone who knows someone kinda deal, but Devon Hester has decided to go pro.

(brother knows a friend who knows some NFL scouts)

Take it for what it's worth.

Alex44
12-29-2005, 03:09 AM
A lot of people knock on hester because he doesnt have a true position but he should be a pretty good NFL player he has all the skills

But it would probally be in his best interest to stay another year in miami and develope his skills at a certain position rather than going pro and just knowing a little of everything but not 1 thing in particular

kastofsna120
12-29-2005, 09:04 AM
yeah i believe boomer mentioned this a few weeks ago. hester will be drafted as a kick/punt returner, nothing else

musphinzfan
12-29-2005, 10:20 AM
He is maken a big mistake.

Dubfire
12-29-2005, 11:53 AM
:shakeno:

Big mistake.

K-train
12-31-2005, 07:25 PM
He declared today.

kastofsna120
12-31-2005, 07:29 PM
and why wouldn't he after that great peach bowl :rofl:

ironic how coker FINALLY REALIZED that hester is the kinda guy you gotta get the ball to a lot in his final game

Dors156
12-31-2005, 07:33 PM
that would be cool to get him.i would draft him in the second or third.he would be a good nickel corner to start his career but as he goes on he could be a starter

kastofsna120
12-31-2005, 07:36 PM
he was a terrible nickel CB in college. he'll be drafted to return kicks, no more

TerryTate
12-31-2005, 07:39 PM
I called that one. :)

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=116044

tylerdolphin
01-02-2006, 01:09 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2277864
I think he should have stayed, but if he feels he needs to then more power to him.

Caps
01-02-2006, 01:13 PM
I wouldn't want to play for Coker anymore if I was him either. Can't blame him.

Dubfire
01-02-2006, 01:22 PM
good luck devin!

Dors156
01-02-2006, 01:51 PM
wide reciever.its crazy but the peach bowl showed he can do some stuff on offense.if he couldnt play wide reciever what do you think is the position he should play?what round would he go in?

tylerdolphin
01-02-2006, 02:03 PM
He will at least make a great KR. I see him being a Wes Welker kind of guy. A 3rd WR, emergency RB, KR, PR, just multi-purpose

illscriptures
01-02-2006, 02:08 PM
Well, I just read that Devin Hester is to become eligible for the NFL Draft this off season and though I feel he is worth a latter 1st round pick (16th is too high I know), I think we should look at him as a second round pick because he can be that corner we are looking for, while leaving Saban to draft whatever feels like drafting in round 1. I might be sounding like I'm too high on Hester but I do think he is a great playmaker and X-factor, we have Welker and do not need him to return kicks, so that leaves a lot of room for him to focus on the defensive side of the game and can ultimately make him one of the center pieces to our defense. Yes I know that is a lot to say but from what I have seen, he is a great all around athlete and reminds me a lot of Champ Bailey. Let me know what you think??? Is it ridiculous or do you guys think it could happen??? Do you think he'll get picked in the first round or do you think he will go in somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd round???

Caps
01-02-2006, 02:11 PM
I would take him in the third. He'll probably be a great KR/PR in the NFL. I don't think he can cover that well, so I don't see him as a nickel back. He can probably be a good 3rd WR. He could be an emergency guy at almost every position too.

ether79
01-02-2006, 02:13 PM
He will not go in the 1st round.

tylerdolphin
01-02-2006, 02:15 PM
he is more of a Wes Welker guy. Not worth a 1st or second round pick. He will be a 3rd WR, KR, PR, and play other positions if need be, much like Welker

dolphan117
01-02-2006, 02:15 PM
Didnt Boomer take some flack for saying this some time ago? Like right after the coach said that he would be coming back and would be more involved in the offense?

FinaticalOne
01-02-2006, 02:16 PM
Because of his speed someone may REACH for him the second round; but he is more of a low third to mid fourth round pick. He's a d-back, but he lost his starting position this year. I think he should've stayed in college for his last year to improve his skill as a d-back. He's a dangerous return man, but that is all he brings to table right now because he's skills are still raw as a DB.

DwayneWade
01-02-2006, 02:17 PM
Is devin Hester from miami?

Clark Kent
01-02-2006, 02:18 PM
Devin Hester sucks at everything except returns. We have Welker to do that for us.

musphinzfan
01-02-2006, 02:18 PM
I wouldn't want to play for Coker anymore if I was him either. Can't blame him.

:yeahthat:

Retnuhrace
01-02-2006, 02:18 PM
He will be taken anywhere from the 3rd-5th round, based solely on his athletic ability. He will not be a corner in the NFL, UNLESS he gets REALLY good coaching at the position. He couldn't even win the nickel back job at UM. Coker said that if he were to stay for his senior season, he would use Hester as more of a WR/RB role, like Reggie Bush. So much for that.

illscriptures
01-02-2006, 02:19 PM
From the city or from the University? From "the U", yes he is, but from Miami itself I have no idea.

Retnuhrace
01-02-2006, 02:21 PM
From the city or from the University? From "the U", yes he is, but from Miami itself I have no idea.


He's from Riviera Beach.

Miamifin23
01-02-2006, 02:22 PM
I'd stay away from this guy. Yes he has speed, but that is all I see from him. Huge mistake coming out early... He should stay at Miami and develop his skills more.

Retnuhrace
01-02-2006, 02:23 PM
I'd stay away from this guy. Yes he has speed, but that is all I see from him. Huge mistake coming out early... He should stay at Miami and develop his skills more.



He said he came out because he needs to support his mother who was in a car accident several years ago and can't really work.

DolfanTom
01-02-2006, 02:33 PM
Devin Hester sucks at everything except returns. We have Welker to do that for us.
You are right, bue he is so good at returns that he'll have a long NFL career barring injuries. Think Desmond Howard w/out the WR hype - but faster. I don't see him ending up with us, but if he were too, he'd be a better return option than Welker just based on his big-play ability. Heck, that would give Welker more WR action, hopefully.

tylerdolphin
01-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Didnt Boomer take some flack for saying this some time ago? Like right after the coach said that he would be coming back and would be more involved in the offense?
Boomer knows all :allhail:

finsnchips
01-02-2006, 03:23 PM
he might be overrated, and only a returner... but he is a big name. someone will take him in round 2.

Fresh
01-02-2006, 03:27 PM
He's a big name for his return skills, which are great. However, IN COLLEGE, he's an average at best cornerback, and a below average receiver. Is that something you'd look at in the first or second round? No.

finsnchips
01-02-2006, 03:30 PM
speed in the NFL cannot be underestimated... especially at corner.

Yeah, he's be a project, but the draft is a crapshoot.

Last year the Raiders took Stanford Routt, CB, in the top 40 because he was quick, thts all... he was a good corner in college, but played at Houston. He was taken because of his speed. I'm not saying tht he is a second round talent, but I think thats where he'll be taken.

South Florida
01-02-2006, 03:38 PM
He's making a HUGE mistake coming out early.

I have no idea when he'll be taken, but if Matt Jones' combine showing catapulted him into the first round as a potential WR, what is that going to do to Devin when he clocks sub 4.3 40 times?

Personally, I'd like to have him.

Roman529
01-02-2006, 03:43 PM
Hester has great speed but a lot of guys have great speed and not much else....I think a 1st or 2nd round pick would be too much for Hester. A 3rd would be ok. Welker is doing a nice jump on punt returns and is a nice go to guy when we need a clutch catch. I would say we have higher priorities than going after Hester....Hester is a good returner, but average d-back, just like Reggie Howard. We can do much better.

DeFINSe
01-05-2006, 02:34 PM
In the Immortal words of the "Mad Dog" Himself, Jim Mandich, If Devin Hester is sitting on the board in rounds 3 or 4, as projected, i scoop him up in a heartbeat. Yea, i know Wes Welker did a good job, but, it was only that, Good. This guy has a chance to be a game breaker, thoughts?

DreamWeaver
01-05-2006, 02:37 PM
agree 100%.....but only in those rounds or lower. Hester is very limited, right now, as to what he can do for an NFL franchise.

Bellson
01-05-2006, 02:38 PM
you must be a canes fan... heh, how about i throw in willie reid into the mix to balance things out. Hester's definitely has game-breaking ability but I wouldnt take him any earlier than the 5th round.

miamirick
01-05-2006, 02:39 PM
Agreed, but I'd hesitate to drop a 3rd rounder on him....a 4th, for sure. At this point, he isn't polished enough at doing anything other than returning kicks/punts which doesn't warrant more than that.

Personally, I think he's making a mistake by coming out.

305 LoCaL VoCaL
01-05-2006, 02:43 PM
you must be a canes fan... heh, how about i throw in willie reid into the mix to balance things out. Hester's definitely has game-breaking ability but I wouldnt take him any earlier than the 5th round.

as far as punt returning is concerned willie reid cant even spell hester....hester is a sleepin giant watch he'll be like 2nd round-3rd round pick

FinaticalOne
01-05-2006, 02:49 PM
My thoughts...Welker is better than good. He has excellent vision and he always makes the first man miss. He's one of the best at his position, plus he's proven to be a sure handed #3 or #4 WR for us. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.

We can find someone else in the third or fourth round who can make an impact at another postion that is in need of upgrading, like OL, QB, DB, or LB.

kastofsna120
01-05-2006, 02:49 PM
don't really need hester at all

South Florida
01-05-2006, 02:50 PM
I would definitely take him in the 3rd withour pick, but I doubt that he'll be available there.

FinaticalOne
01-05-2006, 02:55 PM
you must be a canes fan... heh, how about i throw in willie reid into the mix to balance things out. Hester's definitely has game-breaking ability but I wouldnt take him any earlier than the 5th round.

I like Devin Hester; Im a huge Canes fan and I have to agree with you here. I would only take him in the fifth or later. There will be better players available during the 3rd and 4th rounds who can make bigger contributions to our team. Hester would bring game-breaking return ablility to our team and that's it. Welker is a very good return man who does a very good job as a WR for our team too.

Bellson
01-05-2006, 03:07 PM
I would definitely take him in the 3rd withour pick, but I doubt that he'll be available there.

no way in hell do you take him with a 3rd pick. Like I said before, he has the gamebreaking ability, but he's making a mistake coming out early. He can accelerate and cut on a dime crazy style, but he also coughs up the ball at times similar to ol' Roscoe Parrish. As for Welker, he's definitely proven to be a pretty good returner with sure hands, but he just doesnt have that speed to break one off like a Hall, Hester, Parrish, Sproles, McGee, or Ponder. Not saying we get rid of him but I would like to see someone else back there.

Kucha
01-05-2006, 03:14 PM
I'm a Canes fan but I would only draft him at round 4 and beyond. He's got talent but he never settled into one permanent position. He should really have stayed in school. Too bad that his family didn't encourage him to stay but did the opposite instead.

kpcane
01-05-2006, 03:53 PM
Yeah you guys are right, we don't need Hester. Even though our secondary wasn't any good this year, we have no business drafting a guy that runs a 4.2 40 in the 3rd or 4th round. He would be at least a nickle back for us in his first year if we drafted him.

finfan187
01-05-2006, 05:56 PM
I still don't understand why he played CB at the U, I thought that was a mistake. I'm a huge UM fan but Hester irritated me more than he made me smile. A) he never found a true position, I blame the coaches for that but he could have really tried to focus on one position. B) I see him more as a slot WR or throwing to him out of the backfield on 3rd down.

NorthFloridaFin
01-05-2006, 07:32 PM
as far as punt returning is concerned willie reid cant even spell hester....hester is a sleepin giant watch he'll be like 2nd round-3rd round pick


Man, you got to be crazy!!! Willie Reid is a much better punt returner than Hester, and this is why. Willie Reid is going to get positive yardage every time he touches it with the possibility of breaking one(he has 4 the last 2 years), while Devin Hester may lose 8-10 yards trying to dance around. I would much rather have someone who catches and runs north toward the other endzone, because obviously that is where you are trying to get to.

Honus Joglund
01-06-2006, 12:01 AM
Personally, I think he's making a mistake by coming out.

For his long term development, I agree. He still hasn't been a real effective on either offense or defense yet, just returning kicks.

But he's coming out for the right reason, to help his family financially. I can respect that.

Awsi Dooger
01-06-2006, 01:33 AM
Devin Hester is a freak athlete. You guys really think Deion Sanders is that lousy of a handicapper? He takes someone under his wing and it's for a reason, phenomenal talent. Project against him at your own peril.

Whatever the position, Hester will be making big plays in the NFL while guys taken ahead of him frolic in mediocrity. He'll also be taken much earlier than the consensus here suggests. Once Hester gets into the combine and individual workouts and his speed and athletic ability will vault him above dozens of guys currently rated higher.

Motion
01-06-2006, 01:37 AM
Devin Hester is a freak athlete. You guys really think Deion Sanders is that lousy of a handicapper? He takes someone under his wing and it's for a reason, phenomenal talent. Project against him at your own peril.

Whatever the position, Hester will be making big plays in the NFL while guys taken ahead of him frolic in mediocrity. He'll also be taken much earlier than the consensus here suggests. Once Hester gets into the combine and individual workouts and his speed and athletic ability will vault him above dozens of guys currently rated higher.

Speed and Athelticism only get you so far. The only thing he is right now is a kick returner. He needs alot of work on his DB or WR skills, whichever he ends up being.

FinaticalOne
01-06-2006, 10:51 AM
Yeah you guys are right, we don't need Hester. Even though our secondary wasn't any good this year, we have no business drafting a guy that runs a 4.2 40 in the 3rd or 4th round. He would be at least a nickle back for us in his first year if we drafted him.

Is that sarcasm?

He would not be a nickle back, or even the dime back for us in his first year. He struggled at DB in college his whole career? What, you think just because he runs a 4.2 in the forty; he will make in immediate impact? It doesn't work that way. He made too many mistakes in at the U while playing CB, the only position he excelled at was a return guy; that's it. He is too raw to be considered in the 3rd round, I wouln't take him no earlier than the fifth and that's because we already have a very good return guy who can contribute at the WR position as well. The best thing he should've done was stay in college to improve his coverage skills, that would've improved his stock and merit a third round pick but that is not the case now.

NJL52
01-08-2006, 07:32 PM
What happened to him? During the season I thought he was just a step below Reggie Bush and I was sure he was going to be a top 10 pick whenever he came out. Now I check some mocks and he is projected to go in the second round. I say if he drops to the second we absolutely have to jump on him.

But I am biased about him since he played highschool 20 minutes from me and I had the privelidge of watching him when he played at Suncoast.

UCFinfan86
01-08-2006, 07:36 PM
i wouldnt take him before the 4th round, he has no position, he is just a KR and you dont waste a 2nd rounder on a KR. He was the 'canes #4 CB, he cant play CB in the nFL

tmny99
01-27-2006, 05:25 PM
Here is a guy that many people haven't mentioned as a possibility in the draft for us. First off, it's clear that the team needs to upgrade the PR position. Welker has solidified himself as a reliable slot man and a good KR; however, his better PR days may be behind him. I think drafting a guy like Devon Hester could do many things. First, he could have an immediate impact in improving our PR game. The other aspect is that with his lack of true position, any team that drafts him will have some options for his development. Saban likes "redshirting" his rookies anyway, so once Hester was drafted Saban and staff could evaluate him and see where they want to aid his development (either as a WR or DB). Also with Mularkey at the helm, I'm sure he could take advantage of the guy's speed and put him in some reverses and plays like that. The positive thing is that even if he never fully develops into a suitable WR or DB, he could still have a decent career as a PR if he makes that his niche (e.g. Mel Gray, Desmond Howard, etc.). Any thoughts?

Motion
01-27-2006, 05:26 PM
Saban likes "redshirting" his rookies anyway

:confused: What? We had 3 rookie starters this season.

Dol-Fan Dupree
01-27-2006, 06:03 PM
what are you talking about? Welker is much better punt returner than kick returner.

Geforce
01-27-2006, 07:17 PM
If Devin Hester can do for us what Dante Hall is doing for Kansas City, then I think we should take a chance on him.

Awsi Dooger
01-28-2006, 02:01 AM
Let me emphasize one thing above all: Devin Hester did not make a mistake coming out. It was absolutely the correct decision. He's already 4 years out of high school.

When you've got speed and eluvieness like that, they're only warrantied for so long. Not many precious years. A guy like that isn't going to improve significantly over the course of another year at UM. The coaching staff is in transition, without an offensive coordinator at this point. There's no guarantee he will be featured properly if he came back.

Let's say Hester's legs have 8 years remaining at top notch elusive level. If you stay at UM that's forfeiting 1/8 or 12% or that peak efficiency. That's something that's never accepted or emphasized enough by draft analysts. It's unwise to handicap one position the same as another. A QB generally needs to stay in school but a RB or return specialist should absolutely turn pro ASAP.

As a UM fan I can tell you there's absolutely no comparison between Sinorice Moss' ability and Devin Hester's, the latter far superior. The comments here about Hester backpeddling or fumbling the football are wildly overreacting to a handful of plays from last season. He was uncharacteristically tight in the FSU opener last year, and then he pressed to try to make up for that poor game by trying to turn everything into a TD for several games after that. If you look at his returns from 2003 and 2004, he is surehanded and goes forward every time.

MiamiDolphins34
01-29-2006, 09:33 AM
What round is he supposed to go in?3rd? Ive watched a video of him and holycow he's a gamebreaker returning kickoffs and punts.Has he played as a wr?Is he a good cb,or just a returner? We sure could use him on gadget plays and as returner giving us good field position or take it to the house :eek:

ZolarZ_GoPhins
01-29-2006, 10:08 AM
Wierd.

I just started a topic about this type of player few min after ya posted this it seems. Sorta as slash type players or project guys however ya view them.

I do like Hester and think he is a tremendous athlete. His CB play was uhh decent I guess at the college level maybe, but would prob play WR in NFL.

I like his KR/PR possiblities and possible athletic abilty to play WR. Would he be an upgrade to Wes Welker? I like Wes in the slot, not a starting WR. Hester could possibly be a starting WR with his size, bout same as CC. Maybe future #2?

Very fast, playmaker. Definatly give wes some compition at returner that is basically non existant right now.

Go Phins !

MelbournePhin
01-29-2006, 12:49 PM
overrated garbage

MiamiDolphins34
01-29-2006, 01:00 PM
overrated garbage

You are a noles fan so no wonder you say hes "garbage":lol:

mia4ever
01-29-2006, 01:03 PM
overrated garbage

not true Homer

Devin Hester will be a good zone Db
Hester problem is just playing time.

MelbournePhin
01-29-2006, 01:06 PM
i bet you guys also think eric winston is the next walter jones

mia4ever
01-29-2006, 01:21 PM
i bet you guys also think eric winston is the next walter jones
No he's not

But Eric will fall in the Draft many people feels he's still Hurt
Winston have played the OT postion for ONLytwo year.

the guy needs more time

Phishstix
01-29-2006, 01:36 PM
overrated garbage

i agree to a certain extent. he has no position b/c he's not disciplined enough to play one, and look who his ko/punt returns come against. duke, temple, la tech, famu- not exactly world beaters. i question how effective he'll be in the league.

MelbournePhin
01-29-2006, 01:40 PM
hester was so dam overhyped by the media during the early season. he didnt come close to living up to it. hell, willie reid is a better PR. thats not saying much

CaneFinFan
01-29-2006, 02:30 PM
You are a noles fan so no wonder you say hes "garbage"


I'm a Cane grad and fan and I agree...somewhat. He wasn't smart enough to pick up any WR reads and could'nt find a spot in the defensive backfield. Natural ability can only get you so far. Maybe he'll benefit from better coaching in the NFL but I wouldn't waste a first day pick on "potential."

Motion
01-29-2006, 02:36 PM
Hester is nothing more than a return man at this point. Needs serious work on his CB or WR skills which ever route he goes. 4th rounder at the VERY best.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
01-29-2006, 02:38 PM
he didn't really spend any time at any position. if not for his return abilities, he's the kinda guy a team would send over to NFL europe.

MiamiDolphins34
01-29-2006, 06:05 PM
Is there any similar player to hester that we can get in the late rounds?

mia4ever
01-29-2006, 06:07 PM
wr S.Green lsu,W.reed fsu Blackmond Wr/DB/R Bos.college

MiamiDolphins34
01-29-2006, 06:16 PM
wr S.Green lsu,W.reed fsu Blackmond Wr/DB/R Bos.college

Thanx dude.