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kingfin
01-13-2006, 12:11 PM
He should do it.If we can get 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd.That will be better for us.Saban can pick talant.We all no that.That will be a good move in my book.What you all think.:dolphins:

Dredd1050
01-13-2006, 12:11 PM
Don't know. Something tells me that he will move some players for picks as well.

Finland
01-13-2006, 12:13 PM
He should do it.If we can get 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd.That will be better for us.Saban can pick talant.We all no that.That will be a good move in my book.What you all think.:dolphins:

No I see him using it.

zed
01-13-2006, 12:15 PM
No I see him using it.

I think if Cutler is gone we should trade down.

kingfin
01-13-2006, 12:15 PM
Don't know. Something tells me that he will move some players for picks as well.I can see that to

kingfin
01-13-2006, 12:16 PM
I think if Cutler is gone we should trade down.We can get Omar Jaccobs in the 2nd round.

finhead343
01-13-2006, 12:17 PM
Is Omar Jacobs "that good"? I haven't really seen him or heard anything about him.

SCall13
01-13-2006, 12:18 PM
He should do it.If we can get 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd.That will be better for us.Saban can pick talant.We all no that.That will be a good move in my book.What you all think.:dolphins:


If we trade down, it won't be completely out of the 1st. But I have thought about the possibility of a trade down. It's a good possibility.

zed
01-13-2006, 12:18 PM
We can get Omar Jaccobs in the 2nd round.

What player at 16 will be so great that trading down to get more picks would not be decent option. I am all in favor of not trading until we are on the clock though.

Kobe
01-13-2006, 12:20 PM
We can get Omar Jaccobs in the 2nd round.

Thats a bigger reach than Jamar Fletcher in the first, IMO.

I think Jacobs will go late round 3 early round 4, if that.

Ryan1973
01-13-2006, 12:24 PM
To me, it just depends on who is on the board when they pick. If a guy like a Michael Huff or a stud LT is sitting there, I wouldn't want them to trade down.

zed
01-13-2006, 12:28 PM
Thats a bigger reach than Jamar Fletcher in the first, IMO.

I think Jacobs will go late round 3 early round 4, if that.

Fletcher was not a reach , he was a bust but went where projected. Vernon Carey was a reach. Wade Smith and Taylor Whitly were downright pure reaches.

BlueFin
01-13-2006, 12:28 PM
He should do it.If we can get 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd.That will be better for us.Saban can pick talant.We all no that.That will be a good move in my book.What you all think.:dolphins:

You can't really form an intelligent opinion on this subject until you know who will be available at our pick.

Sometimes two picks are not better than one, we thought Yimmie knew talent as well when he traded down and got John Avery & (a receiver who flopped in the 3rd round...name?) instead of Randy Moss had we stayed put.

If a true impact player slips to 16, I'd rather have that than two shots in the second round on players with some question marks.

djfresh47
01-13-2006, 12:39 PM
What player at 16 will be so great that trading down to get more picks would not be decent option. I am all in favor of not trading until we are on the clock though.

I don't know, but trading out of the 1st rd completely would take more than one trade, IMO. If they do decide I think they would get probably a late 1st rd pick this year/early 2nd and probably a 1st next year.

miamirw
01-13-2006, 12:43 PM
No one is talking about Drew Stanton. Here's a guy that was projected to be a first round pick at the beginning of the year.

Saw three of his games this year including the Notre Dame Michigan State game.

The guy is good.

I like the idea of picking up a couple 2nd round picks. We could get everything we need with 3 twos and 2 threes.

2A QB (Drew Stanton)
2B CB
2C OL
3A WR
3B OLB

305finforlife
01-13-2006, 12:46 PM
I to also see that as a possiblility but only if the impact player we are looking at is still falling in the draft and we can still pic them up, and i would prefer a trade down with a team still in the first round like a denver were we can still get a 1st round pic and pic up a 2nd and hopefully a third, but more than likely a 4th

A #1, 2 #2, and 2 #3 or #3 and #4 would be tight

aerokev
01-13-2006, 12:47 PM
No one is talking about Drew Stanton. Here's a guy that was projected to be a first round pick at the beginning of the year.

Saw three of his games this year including the Notre Dame Michigan State game.

The guy is good.

I like the idea of picking up a couple 2nd round picks. We could get everything we need with 3 twos and 2 threes.

2A QB (Drew Stanton)
2B CB
2C OL
3A WR
3B OLB

stanton is staying at mich st, thats why nobody talks about him

DBoston80
01-13-2006, 12:48 PM
I have total trust in Saban!! Whatever he does I think will be the right move.

NLude33
01-13-2006, 12:49 PM
Fletcher was not a reach , he was a bust but went where projected. Vernon Carey was a reach. Wade Smith and Taylor Whitly were downright pure reaches.

What about possible Undrafted FA Eddie Moore in the second....biggest reach ever. Moore wasn't even watching the draft because he knew he wouldn't be drafted day one. They got a hold of him on a golf course!

But to the thread....I wouldn't mind trading out of #16 if we got a first round pick next year. If say we trade with Detroit for their 2nd round pick this year, and their first next year. We would then have the #9 and #16 picks in the second round, plus we would have two 1st round picks next year.

Can you imagine if we improved a bit, or stayed about the same next year with a 9-7 record, and then have 2 first round picks. That would really launch us into Super Bowl contenders I would think.

zed
01-13-2006, 12:49 PM
I have total trust in Saban!! Whatever he does I think will be the right move.

Well that makes for lively debate.

Hasta
01-13-2006, 12:50 PM
To me, it just depends on who is on the board when they pick. If a guy like a Michael Huff or a stud LT is sitting there, I wouldn't want them to trade down.

You're right...now the only thing he is probably working on is how to trade up...not that we're dead set on that, it's just a possibility.

When we get to our pick, he will probably try to trade down but only if there isn't someone he really wants available... Remember all the smoke screens he put up last year when he knew he wanted Ronnie...but he would have been willing to trade for the right deal.

DBoston80
01-13-2006, 12:52 PM
Well that makes for lively debate.

I'm always good for one;) ....

..how bout this?? If a player he wants is there at 16 he takes him...If not he trades down if he finds the right deal...

Man can I ever debate!! :evil:

cowtowndick
01-13-2006, 12:56 PM
You can't really form an intelligent opinion on this subject until you know who will be available at our pick.

Sometimes two picks are not better than one, we thought Yimmie knew talent as well when he traded down and got John Avery & (a receiver who flopped in the 3rd round...name?) instead of Randy Moss had we stayed put.

If a true impact player slips to 16, I'd rather have that than two shots in the second round on players with some question marks.

definitely rather have the impact player, and the receiver was larry shannon.

BlueFin
01-13-2006, 12:59 PM
definitely rather have the impact player, and the receiver was larry shannon.

Thanks, I can't imagine why his name wasn't more memorable?:D

tylerdolphin
01-13-2006, 01:01 PM
If Cutler is there, we cant trade down. If not, I wouldnt mind.

TimeGap
01-13-2006, 01:17 PM
We will get atlest someone's frist pick next year and a pick in this draft to trade out of the 1st round.

vmarcilfan75
01-13-2006, 01:34 PM
If Cutler,J.Williams,Huff, or Greenway are gone then maybe trade out.

NaboCane
01-13-2006, 01:36 PM
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BALLS DEEP
01-13-2006, 01:36 PM
You can't really form an intelligent opinion on this subject until you know who will be available at our pick.

Sometimes two picks are not better than one, we thought Yimmie knew talent as well when he traded down and got John Avery & (a receiver who flopped in the 3rd round...name?) instead of Randy Moss had we stayed put.

If a true impact player slips to 16, I'd rather have that than two shots in the second round on players with some question marks.
Yatil Green?

sports24/7
01-13-2006, 03:02 PM
There is no way we should trade down. This is a very good draft and we will be able to draft a difference maker at our pick at 16. Now if Cutler, one of the OLBs, and Michael Huff aren't there and you are only talking about trading down a few picks then fine, but trading back to the end of the first or out of the first would be a mistake.

fishypete
01-13-2006, 04:49 PM
I'm always good for one;) ....

..how bout this?? If a player he wants is there at 16 he takes him...If not he trades down if he finds the right deal...

Man can I ever debate!! :evil:

Sounds good to me....debate away.:sidelol:

fishypete
01-13-2006, 04:50 PM
If Cutler is there, we cant trade down. If not, I wouldnt mind.

We can't?

BlueFin
01-13-2006, 06:47 PM
We can't?

He meant to say, It would be stupid too, considering Cutler will be a great NFL quarterback, and what a hard time we've had with the scrubs we've found since Marino.

ecairo25
01-13-2006, 07:08 PM
definatly not trading down, theres some good defensive guys to gte early and then possibly a qb later

scenaria
01-13-2006, 07:13 PM
I love how everyone talks like its nothing to trade down... First of all you have to have someone who is willing to trade up... this isnt always a guarantee... couple that with making sure its a fair trade and I think its more unlikely that we trade the pick.

CHRISCANEQB726
01-13-2006, 07:42 PM
i prefer tradin 1st for 2 2nd and one 3rd

we can get a steal qb later olsen

unifiedtheory
01-13-2006, 09:18 PM
Is Omar Jacobs "that good"? I haven't really seen him or heard anything about him.

Jacobs any higher then the fourth round is a reach.

CrunchTime
01-13-2006, 10:18 PM
I would agree that last year would have been a good year to trade down because the talent was even through the second round and we could have drafted two or even three players of equal value by trading down but we drafted R.B. who was the BPA .There was little interest in trading up for the same reasons.

This year I think we can still get a player thats elite.If there is no player that convinces the Dolphin powers to be then a trade down may be in order.But I have a feeling they will go for the BPA this year.

Danny
01-14-2006, 02:35 AM
I'd move down but not out of the 1st round.if we move down into the 20's then I can see Nick taking Landry in the 1st round as I think 16 is high for him.Then in the 2nd we could take a LT and a LB or a QB like Jacobs maybe? He seems like a reach but he does have the potential to be very good and with an extra pick then why not? Then in the 3rd we can get whatever position we didn't get..either LB or LT or QB if not Jacobs.

Ozzy rules!! :rockon: :guitar:

Danny
01-14-2006, 02:38 AM
You can't really form an intelligent opinion on this subject until you know who will be available at our pick.

Sometimes two picks are not better than one, we thought Yimmie knew talent as well when he traded down and got John Avery & (a receiver who flopped in the 3rd round...name?) instead of Randy Moss had we stayed put.

If a true impact player slips to 16, I'd rather have that than two shots in the second round on players with some question marks.
If JJ had stayed put he was gonna take Vinnie Holliday at that spot.He traded down cos he didn't think Holliday was gonna be there...he didn't want Moss from the start and he said so before and after the draft.Not saying I agreed with him but he wanted Holliday and not Moss.

Ozzy rules!!
:rockon: :guitar:

BlueFin
01-14-2006, 10:24 AM
If JJ had stayed put he was gonna take Vinnie Holliday at that spot.He traded down cos he didn't think Holliday was gonna be there...he didn't want Moss from the start and he said so before and after the draft.Not saying I agreed with him but he wanted Holliday and not Moss.

Ozzy rules!!
:rockon: :guitar:

Doesn't matter, the point was what options you have or had, not what decisions someone made in the past.

phinfan77
01-14-2006, 11:26 AM
the wide reciever was Larry shannon From ECU. Jimmy still says shannon had better tools than moss.

I don't know about trading out of the first round. #16 is a good spot to catch potential "10 ten" players that took a slight drop due to unexpected rises(see cutler) or last minute concerns,or teams that always seem to reach(see atlanta).

i'm not saying Hawke or Young willfall this far. But a couple other players might.