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hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:04 AM
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I was disapointed in his comments today. For someone to usually show a lot of class it was very classless to put the blame on his offensive line after the game. He said something like I want to be a good teammate and not call people out but we had a major protection breakdown. Not word for word but real close, I first disagree with what he said he's the one that calls out all the assignments. He got rattled in the first half and never regained his composure. He's a good QB but not on this day. He melted under pressure again and it's becoming very clear that he may not have what it takes to win a big game.
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34isback
01-16-2006, 03:07 AM
but there were protection problems. he was asked what happened and that was it. what the hell is he supposed to say?

dolphindan1970
01-16-2006, 03:09 AM
Did'nt care much for the way Peyton handled the loss either.Games over, no use to start throwing blame around.Fix it next year, get rid of the guy('s) or what-ever, but no use in blaming your team-mates.Its a team game, and he's finding out what Marino went through all those years.You can be great, but you have to have a full team around you.

Maynard the Hammer
01-16-2006, 03:14 AM
what did he expect? that his line would block some of the league's top blitzers and allow him time to throw 20-30 yard passes every down?

fitskin
01-16-2006, 03:15 AM
Other than the fact that he was completely right, I guess he had no justification.

Boik14
01-16-2006, 03:15 AM
I agree here. He was just bad the whole 1st Q. Maybe if he hadnt started off so poorly they wouldnt have fallen behind 14-0.

Furthermore he has to expect that when you face a blitzing team like Pitt who has players like Von Oelhoeffen and Hampton and Porter etc that youre going to get hit on ever play. Thats the way Pitt is. Theyre going to hit you in your mouth and play a physical game. I dont know why he's surprised by this. He's the one who calls the audibles at the line and if you see the OL is having trouble keep an extra blocker in.

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:16 AM
but there were protection problems. he was asked what happened and that was it. what the hell is he supposed to say?


He was suppose to say I could have played better but I didn't and we lost. We'll be back next year. Now his pro bowl line has to live with those comments for the rest of the offseason.

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Other than the fact that he was completely right, I guess he had no justification.


He wasn't right he calls the assignments. They disquised the blitzes and he didn't see him to give the assignments. They gameplanned better than the Colts. He got rattled and never regained his composure.

Maynard the Hammer
01-16-2006, 03:20 AM
I agree here. He was just bad the whole 1st Q. Maybe if he hadnt started off so poorly they wouldnt have fallen behind 14-0.

Furthermore he has to expect that when you face a blitzing team like Pitt who has players like Von Oelhoeffen and Hampton and Porter etc that youre going to get hit on ever play. Thats the way Pitt is. Theyre going to hit you in your mouth and play a physical game. I dont know why he's surprised by this. He's the one who calls the audibles at the line and if you see the OL is having trouble keep an extra blocker in.

yup. plus many teams have gotten smarter in these 2 minute situations where the O needs to go a long way. buffalo did it the fins in the first game they met. they sent the house and gus couldnt do squat. the broncos did it to brady

to me it sounds like he cant fathom the idea that Pitt didnt just rush 3 and let peyton pick them apart and drive down the field

Rocky Raccoon
01-16-2006, 03:23 AM
yup. plus many teams have gotten smarter in these 2 minute situations where the O needs to go a long way. buffalo did it the fins in the first game they met. they sent the house and gus couldnt do squat. the broncos did it to brady

to me it sounds like he cant fathom the idea that Pitt didnt just rush 3 and let peyton pick them apart and drive down the field

you mean when Gus took the offense down inside Buffalo's 20 and completed a pass to Ronnie that he then fumbled inside the 15??

Maynard the Hammer
01-16-2006, 03:25 AM
you mean when Gus took the offense down inside Buffalo's 20 and completed a pass to Ronnie that he then fumbled inside the 15??

no. the fins got the ball back after that and i dont think they gained a single yard 'cause the bills blitzed on every down and sacked gus a couple times

DolphinDevil28
01-16-2006, 03:25 AM
I can't believe this thread has lasted this long in this forum.

VIPERS51
01-16-2006, 03:27 AM
he could say whatever he wants but the bottom line is that the colts had a golden oppourtunity at the end of the game not only to tie the game but also win it and they chocked regardless of how the game went.:dolphins: :dolphins: :dolphins:

Roman529
01-16-2006, 03:29 AM
He should have criticized his o-line in private...you don't air your laundry out for the public to see....not cool Peyton. :rolleyes:

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:30 AM
I can't believe this thread has lasted this long in this forum.


Me either I was thinkng the same thing.

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:33 AM
he could say whatever he wants but the bottom line is that the colts had a golden oppourtunity at the end of the game not only to tie the game but also win it and they chocked regardless of how the game went.:dolphins: :dolphins: :dolphins:



Your're right but only b/c Pitt was triing to give the game away. the o line seemed to be blocking when they drove down the field the last time. And the game should have been over when troy intercepted Peyton again.

fanaticfin
01-16-2006, 03:37 AM
Peyton is 3 - 6 in the playoffs, his offensive line did terrible but the same thing can be said for him.

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:39 AM
Peyton is 3 - 6 in the playoffs, his offensive line did terrible but the same thing can be said for him.


Exactly that was my point in the post. He shouldn't have placed blame elsewhere when he played a poor game.

Rocky Raccoon
01-16-2006, 03:41 AM
no. the fins got the ball back after that and i dont think they gained a single yard 'cause the bills blitzed on every down and sacked gus a couple times

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. You dont remember the big Brown fumble in that game?? He jumped over a defender to get a 1st and when he landed he was hit and fumbled.

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 03:41 AM
Well it finally got moved I guess this thread is over.

finfansince72
01-16-2006, 03:51 AM
That Bettis fumble was one of the all time chokes, Steelers were lucky Vandy missed that fieldgoal.
I dont have any problems with what Peyton said, he was really frustrated the whole game, they had a chance to tie and it didnt work out. They had a alltime great regular season and it was heartbreaking for them to lose like this. Sometimes people need to put themselves in someone elses shoes. You had probaly the most frustrating day of your entire professional life and youre having to answer questions to reporters. You said something you might not say otherwise, its not a big deal, people are really stretching for something to hate Manning for.

maddendude
01-16-2006, 04:02 AM
according to some magazine, he was the most well mannered person on earth.

i dont blame him either, his protection WAS bad...he cant do anything with no protection. Yes he did make some mistakes...but it was one of those things where, he couldnt get in a rythm, cuz he was constantly under pressure.

I say dont point fingers and take the loss as a team. but us critics can point fingers...i say blame the coaches.

Maynard the Hammer
01-16-2006, 04:03 AM
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. You dont remember the big Brown fumble in that game?? He jumped over a defender to get a 1st and when he landed he was hit and fumbled.

yeah i remember it, but the fins got the ball back after that

hunter5nc1
01-16-2006, 04:11 AM
That Bettis fumble was one of the all time chokes, Steelers were lucky Vandy missed that fieldgoal.
I dont have any problems with what Peyton said, he was really frustrated the whole game, they had a chance to tie and it didnt work out. They had a alltime great regular season and it was heartbreaking for them to lose like this. Sometimes people need to put themselves in someone elses shoes. You had probaly the most frustrating day of your entire professional life and youre having to answer questions to reporters. You said something you might not say otherwise, its not a big deal, people are really stretching for something to hate Manning for.


Its our job to criticize. I'm not partial to anyone if someone says something I think was wrong I post it.

finfansince72
01-16-2006, 05:25 AM
Its our job to criticize. I'm not partial to anyone if someone says something I think was wrong I post it.

Well by that same token I can say you don't know what youre talking about. I saw the comments they werent a big deal, youre looking for something to criticize someone for and going after Peyton for comments that werent a big deal. Its silly, it really is.

CanadaPhinsFan
01-16-2006, 07:55 AM
That Bettis fumble was one of the all time chokes, Steelers were lucky Vandy missed that fieldgoal.
I dont have any problems with what Peyton said, he was really frustrated the whole game, they had a chance to tie and it didnt work out. They had a alltime great regular season and it was heartbreaking for them to lose like this. Sometimes people need to put themselves in someone elses shoes. You had probaly the most frustrating day of your entire professional life and youre having to answer questions to reporters. You said something you might not say otherwise, its not a big deal, people are really stretching for something to hate Manning for.

Which is exactly what Peyton didn't do when he decided to throw the blame towards his line. It's so out of character for him. That's why it's getting so much attention.

finfansince72
01-16-2006, 09:16 AM
Which is exactly what Peyton didn't do when he decided to throw the blame towards his line. It's so out of character for him. That's why it's getting so much attention.

What are you talking about? Peyton called out his line because he was on his rear for the whole game, hes the one out in front that everyone wants to blame, hes the one who everyone talks about as a choker, a playoff loser. I bet most people couldnt even name more than 1 or 2 linemen on that team. Peyton is going to take the fall for this oline playing like a bunch of 3rd stringers. Again, these comments arent a big deal, Peyton is taking the heat, his line isnt maybe he should have said what he said differently buts it not a huge deal. Theres not one lineman on that line that doesnt agree with what he said, they know they stunk and cost their team the game.

RunningBackGuru
01-16-2006, 10:58 AM
He was suppose to say I could have played better but I didn't and we lost. We'll be back next year. Now his pro bowl line has to live with those comments for the rest of the offseason.

Exacly. It was wrong for him to have blamed it on his line.

Rocky Raccoon
01-16-2006, 12:50 PM
yeah i remember it, but the fins got the ball back after that

yea but with like 10 seonds left... all Gus could do was throw it up for grabs anyway.

Predaphin
01-16-2006, 03:02 PM
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I was disapointed in his comments today. For someone to usually show a lot of class it was very classless to put the blame on his offensive line after the game. He said something like I want to be a good teammate and not call people out but we had a major protection breakdown. Not word for word but real close, I first disagree with what he said he's the one that calls out all the assignments. He got rattled in the first half and never regained his composure. He's a good QB but not on this day. He melted under pressure again and it's becoming very clear that he may not have what it takes to win a big game.


I have to disagree, if anyone has the right to call out their team it's their leader...and that's Peyton Manning....he's carried the team through the entire season, i dont see nothing wrong with him expressing his frustration with his Oline....

on the same note i agree that's its becoming very clear he cannot win the big game....

DPlus47
01-16-2006, 03:13 PM
yea but with like 10 seonds left... all Gus could do was throw it up for grabs anyway.

he didn't do a good job of throwing it up for grabs. he took sacks.

DPlus47
01-16-2006, 03:16 PM
manning shouldn't be calling others out. not when it's clear he overrides the coaching staff on certain calls. not when it's clear he has the power to change plays and protection schemes at the line. if you're having trouble blocking the blitz, you have to change something. peyton has shown that he tells the coaching staff what to do, so it's a good bet he told them he wanted to keep chucking it down the field. you have to change up your plan when it isn't working. peyton needs a coach he respects, and the bottom line is, i don't think he can respect anybody who is available. if he were an NBA player, this would be a bigger deal. it would be "insubordination" and a travesty and all that. he isn't an NBA player, so he's very well mannered and it's "out of character" for him to behave this way.