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NYPhinFan
01-16-2006, 06:08 PM
In a statement that would surprise noone....the NFL said the referee made a mistake bu overturning that INT call. Now i want them to admit to the other 4-5 mistakes other than that one that was so blatant over the weekend!

gofins
01-16-2006, 06:26 PM
http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/9168866

NYPhinFan
01-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the link

byroan
01-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Where's Alex22?

unifiedtheory
01-16-2006, 06:34 PM
Where's Alex22?

I was going to ask that EXACT same thing...

He'll still think it was the right call.

Mindwarp
01-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Where's Alex22?

:chuckle:

Prime
01-16-2006, 06:43 PM
The NFL has to be extermly pissed by how the way the refs are handling the games this season. I tell you one thing, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be ref right now.

gofins
01-16-2006, 06:55 PM
Where's Alex22?
I think I might bump the thread where he was defending the call so adamantly.:D

Roman529
01-16-2006, 07:09 PM
The refs are having a rough playoffs....the Steelers almost got beat due to the bad call on Troy P...he clearly made the pick and rolled over with the ball in his hands. I have no idea what replays they were looking at. :confused:

SCall13
01-16-2006, 07:10 PM
Not surprised at all. The biggest thing is that a call can't be overturned without CONCLUSIVE evidence. This makes the ref look like an idiot because it was an obvious INT. Then he overturned a correct call with no evidence whatsoever to change it. What would be really upsetting (obviously) is if Pittsburg had lost the game. These refs need to get with the program. To have games called so consistently bad says alot about the state of officiating. The officials the NFL uses for these crucial games are supposed to be the best of the best. Pretty scary thought.

Tone_E
01-16-2006, 09:14 PM
What really bothers me is that BS PI call in the Den game where Samuels is looking back for the ball, and gets called in the end zone, and that one in the PIT game is not even considered. WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY???:fire:


The NFL should be ASHAMED of themselves, and hopefully, they have a damn conference to reduce the level of discretion the refs are given!

Or, just a thought, MAKE ALL CALLS AND PENALTIES reveiwable? Whats the matter NFL? Afraid of publically loosing your referee's integrity?

CanadaPhinsFan
01-16-2006, 09:33 PM
I'm surprised they actually said anything other than "no comment." I guess enough people were complaining that they decided it should be addressed publicly.

Awsi Dooger
01-16-2006, 10:32 PM
It wasn't just wrong, it was world class incompetence. Tantamount to telling Tiger Woods his shot didn't go in even though the ball is sitting in the bottom of the cup. That ref should be demoted, if not drop kicked out of the league by Doug Flutie.

ih8brady
01-16-2006, 10:54 PM
Not surprised at all. The biggest thing is that a call can't be overturned without CONCLUSIVE evidence. This makes the ref look like an idiot because it was an obvious INT. Then he overturned a correct call with no evidence whatsoever to change it. What would be really upsetting (obviously) is if Pittsburg had lost the game. These refs need to get with the program. To have games called so consistently bad says alot about the state of officiating. The officials the NFL uses for these crucial games are supposed to be the best of the best. Pretty scary thought.

I never understood the "conclusive evidence" thing. Is this a court case? Is one camera angle not enough? How about just reviewing and looking for any evidence that proves the call right or wrong? What if a bad call is made and one 5 second clip of video shows what should have been called? I bet that conclusive evidence bull is what they used to not give us that TD ag SD.

Metal Panda
01-16-2006, 11:05 PM
See? The league does admit when calls are blown.

Sorry Alex...looks like the fight was for naught :)

McDuffie81
01-16-2006, 11:07 PM
Horrible call that was obvious from the get go. Refs and/or NFL trying to keep the games close and exciting for the fans IMO. Been happening all year...

Metal Panda
01-16-2006, 11:07 PM
In a statement that would surprise noone....the NFL said the referee made a mistake bu overturning that INT call. Now i want them to admit to the other 4-5 mistakes other than that one that was so blatant over the weekend!

I still hold that Gage was down (I replayed it 5 times and it clearly looked like the Panther had his arm draped across Gage's arm while Gage's knee was on the ground)

Metal Panda
01-16-2006, 11:07 PM
Horrible call that was obvious from the get go. Refs and/or NFL trying to keep the games close and exciting for the fans IMO. Been happening all year...

No, refs being human beings.

I'm a bit tired of hearing all the conspiracy theories. They don't hold up. And they certainly don't explain all of the playoff blowouts.

McDuffie81
01-16-2006, 11:19 PM
No, refs being human beings.

I'm a bit tired of hearing all the conspiracy theories. They don't hold up. And they certainly don't explain all of the playoff blowouts. Your so closed minded on the matter I dont care what you think anymore. Its not a normal human mistake to look at a freaking play in slow motion 100x and still make that kind of hiddeous call! I dont think of it as a conspiracy. I can see it with my own eyes just like the majority here that refs are making BS calls in some cases. Its NOT "refs being humans" as you keep insisting.

Metal Panda
01-16-2006, 11:29 PM
Your so closed minded on the matter I dont care what you think anymore. Its not a normal human mistake to look at a freaking play in slow motion 100x and still make that kind of hiddeous call! I dont think of it as a conspiracy. I can see it with my own eyes just like the majority here that refs are making BS calls in some cases. Its NOT "refs being humans" as you keep insisting.

Closed minded? And you have WHAT evidence to support that it is some behind the scenes conspiracy by the NFL? Which makes little sense since they actually came out and reprimanded the officials for it.

The fact of the matter is, the official in charge of reviewing the play misinterpreted the rule he was using to explain why it was an incomplete pass, which Pereira confirmed.

The other blown calls this week? Pass interference gets missed or called in error all the time. Not a huge shocker. The Gage play? I think it was the right call. Were a lot of calls missed this weekend? You betcha. Is it evidence of some George Orwellian football conspiracy? No.

Somebody has obviously not heard the term "burden of proof". Amazing how I get attacked for not believing something that people with tinfoil hats believe.

To repeat (since I know you will miss it), I'm not arguing that the call wasn't hideously wrong. But that's all it was--a wrong call made by a confused official. The NFL could HELP officials by clearly defining "football move" as well.

Has everyone forgotten the play that benefitted Miami in 2001 in the Seahawks game where Alexander was clearly on the ground and down before the ball came loose, and after review the play was overturned and ruled down by contact, only to have an official come back a moment later after NOT reviewing the film again to say that no, it WAS a fumble?

McDuffie81
01-16-2006, 11:46 PM
Your still calling it a conspiracy and asking me to prove it.

Metal Panda
01-16-2006, 11:48 PM
"Refs and/or NFL trying to keep the games close and exciting for the fans IMO."

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How is insinuating that the refs and/or NFL purposefully making wrong calls in order to keep the games close not a "conspiracy" theory?

McDuffie81
01-16-2006, 11:57 PM
I didn't call any such thing a conspiracy.

As far as proof, typically it's wise to have some sort of evidence before making wild assertions.

But I guess this passes for debate in this room? If you think that the refs always make calls without bias or letting their emotion sway them at critical times is fine with me. It something you cant prove.

McDuffie81
01-16-2006, 11:59 PM
"Refs and/or NFL trying to keep the games close and exciting for the fans IMO."

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How is insinuating that the refs and/or NFL purposefully making wrong calls in order to keep the games close not a "conspiracy" theory? I dont honestly believe the NFL is behind it. I wouldnt be surprised if they were though.

Metal Panda
01-17-2006, 12:04 AM
If you think that the refs always make calls without bias or letting their emotion sway them at critical times is fine with me. It something you cant prove.

You can't prove a negative. Burden of proof is on you, not me.

Doesn't make sense anyway. They're graded on every play and each catastrophic screwup makes them one step closer to being fired.

But enough about it.

The play was wrong, the league called him on it, and he'll probably be reprimanded in some way shape or form.

McDuffie81
01-17-2006, 12:09 AM
You cant prove a refs motives are honest either.

Metal Panda
01-17-2006, 12:12 AM
You cant prove a refs motives are honest either.

As I stated--burden of proof is on you.

Otherwise, by your logic, I could say that you stole some kid's skateboard. you didn't? You can't PROVE you didn't steal his skateboard. So what if it isn't in your garage? You're hiding it somewhere!

(wait now I sound like the President)

McDuffie81
01-17-2006, 12:18 AM
As I stated--burden of proof is on you.

Otherwise, by your logic, I could say that you stole some kid's skateboard. you didn't? You can't PROVE you didn't steal his skateboard. So what if it isn't in your garage? You're hiding it somewhere!

(wait now I sound like the President) And if 100,000 other people swear they saw me take it, then it would be a case worth looking into wouldnt it? I swear you must be a lawyer :shakeno: .

Metal Panda
01-17-2006, 10:46 PM
Whoosh. Obviously you don't get it.

I'm stating that it's silly to tell somebody to prove that an official ISN'T playing favorites when you haven't displayed any evidence to indicate he is. Innocent until proven guilty.

I still fail to see how someone can draw a logical conclusion from watching an official blow a call that it was obviously intentional, with no other evidence to support it.

McDuffie81
01-17-2006, 10:56 PM
Whoosh. Obviously you don't get it.

I'm stating that it's silly to tell somebody to prove that an official ISN'T playing favorites when you haven't displayed any evidence to indicate he is. Innocent until proven guilty.

I still fail to see how someone can draw a logical conclusion from watching an official blow a call that it was obviously intentional, with no other evidence to support it. This isnt a court of law. Its an opinion. Seriously though, what planet are you from?

Metal Panda
01-17-2006, 11:06 PM
You really need things spelled out for you, don't you? "Innocent until proven guilty" was obviously my way of stating that it is your responsibility to prove your side, since it is next to impossible to prove a negative.

Normally opinions usually have something like reasoning and logic behind them, and not wild flutters of the imagination and slippery slopes.

This is my last word on the subject. might as well lock the thread (though I know that's not up to me)

McDuffie81
01-17-2006, 11:24 PM
I told you what I thought. New rule everyone. Every opinion or thought needs some type evidence or hard proof! Cya Rob. :rolleyes2

CalDolFan10x14
01-18-2006, 12:00 AM
Where's Alex22?

Still no sign of him. :chuckle:

I'm glad they finally admitted they were wrong, though. I just wish they would have gotten it right on the field. Oh well. Fortunately, for the Steelers, it didn't go on to affect the outcome of the game.

scenaria
01-18-2006, 12:03 AM
the question to ask.. is would they have admited the error had the steelers lost?

im betting they would have figured out a way to justify the call as otherwise there would be a serious problem...