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NawlinsBucFan
01-18-2006, 06:58 PM
Who do YOU think were the best at their positions this year? Not just based on Stats but for everything they brought to the table. List your first and second team All Stars. Feel free to list 3 WR's and DB's since 3 WR sets are so commonly used.

For me....

QB: Ben Roethlisberger PIT
(Matt Hasselbeck SEA)

RB: Tiki Barber NYG
(Larry Johnson KC)

WR: Steve Smith CAR,
Joey Galloway TB,
Chad Johnson CIN
(Reggie Wayne IND, Chris Chambers MIA, Santana Moss WAS)

TE: Antonio Gates SD
(Alge Crumpler ATL)

OT: Willie Roaf KC, Willie Anderson CIN
(Walter Jones SEA, Tarik Glenn IND)

OG: Will Shields KC, Dan Buenning TB
(Steve Hutchinson SEA, Allen Faneca PIT)

C: Jeff Saturday IND
(Casey Rabach WAS)

DE: Osi Umenyora NYG, Simeon Rice TB
(Jason Taylor MIA, Michael Strahan NYG)

DT: Montea Reagor IND, John Henderson JAX
(Grady Jackson GB, Richard Seymore NE)

LB: L- Cato June IND,
M- Zack THomas MIA,
R- Derrick Brooks TB
(Joey Poter PITT, Jonathan Vilma NYJ, Shawne Merriman SD)

CB: Ty Law NYJ,
Deltha O'Neil CIN,
Champ Bailey DEN
(Ronde Barber TB, Asante Samuel NE, Brian Kelly TB)

SS: Adrian Wilson ARZ
(Troy Polamalu PIT)

FS: Brian Dawkins PHI
(John Lynch DEN)

K: Niel Rackers ARZ
(Matt Stover BAL)

P: Josh Bidwell TB
(Brian Moorman BUF)

unifiedtheory
01-18-2006, 07:50 PM
I'll just go with starters.

OFFENSE:

Q.B. - Tom Brady

R.B. - Shaun Alexander and Tiki Barber

F.B. - Mack Strong.

W.R. - Steve Smith and Santana Moss

T.E. - Antonio Gates

Tackles - Walter Jones and William Roaf

Guards - Steve Hutchinson and Eric Steinbach

Center - Jeff Saturday

Kicker - Neil Rackers

Kick returner - Terrence McGee

DEFENSE

Defensive Ends - Mike Strahan and Jason Taylor

Defensive tackles - Tommie Harris and Pat Williams

Outside linebackers - Shawne Merriman and Marcus Washington

Middle Linebacker - Zach Thomas

Cornerbacks - Champ Bailey and Ronde Barber

Safeties - Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders

Punters - Brian Moorman

Basileus777
01-18-2006, 08:06 PM
QB: Carson Palmer CIN
(Tom Brady NE)

HB: Larry Johnson KC
(Tiki Barber NYG)

FB: Lorenzo Neal SD
(Tony Richardson KC)

WR: Steve Smith CAR,
Santana Moss WAS,
Chad Johnson CIN
(Reggie Wayne IND, Larry Fitzgerald ARI, Anquan Boldin ARI)

TE: Antonio Gates SD
(Tony Gonzalez KC)

OT: Willie Roaf KC, Walter Jones SEA
(Willie Anderson CIN, John Tait CHI)

OG: Brian Waters KC, Randy Thomas WAS
(Steve Hutchinson SEA, Will Shields KC)

C: Tom Nalen DEN
(Jeff Saturday IND)

DE: Dwight Freeney IND, Julius Peppers CAR
(Jason Taylor MIA, Adele Ogunleye CHI)

DT: Jamal Williams SD, Tommie Harris CHI
(Casey Hampton PIT, John Henderson JAX)

LB: L- Marcus Washington WAS,
M- Brian Urlacher CHI,
R- Lance Briggs CHI
(Adalius Thomas BAL, Mike Peterson JAX, Derrick Brooks TB)

CB: Ken Lucas CAR,
Nathan Vasher CHI,
Champ Bailey DEN
(Ronde Barber TB, Shawn Springs WAS, Nate Clements BUF)

FS: Darren Sharper MIN
(Bob Sanders IND)

SS: Mike Brown CHI
(Troy Polamalu PIT)

K: Neil Rackers ARI
(Jason Elam DEN)

P: Chris Kluwe MIN
(Josh Bidwell TB)

Jimi
01-18-2006, 08:20 PM
Dan Buenning as the ALL PRO guard...cmon now, thats a lil bit of homerism wouldnt you say?

King Felix
01-19-2006, 02:08 AM
no peyton?? amazing

dominizzo
01-19-2006, 03:13 AM
QB- Peyton Manning
RB- LAdainian Tomlinson
RB- Shaun Alexander
FB- lorenzo NEal
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- Anquan Boldin
WR- LArry Fitzgerald
TE- Antonio GAtes
TE- Alge Crumpler

T- Walter Jones
G- Will Shields
G- Alan FAneca
C- olin kreutz
T- Jonathan Ogden

De- Michael Strahan
De- Simeon Rice
DT- Vince Wilfork
DT- Sam Adams

LB- Zach Thomas
LB Brian Urlacher
LB- Shawne Merriman
LB- Willie Mcginest ( always fierce at his geezer age)

DB- Detha Oneal (2years ina row with nice INTS)
DB- Champ BAiley
FS- Trpy Polamalu
SS- Adrian Wilson

K- JAson Elam
P- Hunter Smith

burger13
01-19-2006, 12:52 PM
Who do YOU think were the best at their positions this year? Not just based on Stats but for everything they brought to the table. List your first and second team All Stars. Feel free to list 3 WR's and DB's since 3 WR sets are so commonly used.

For me....

QB: Ben Roethlisberger PIT
(Matt Hasselbeck SEA)

RB: Tiki Barber NYG
(Larry Johnson KC)

WR: Steve Smith CAR,
Joey Galloway TB,
Chad Johnson CIN
(Reggie Wayne IND, Chris Chambers MIA, Santana Moss WAS)

TE: Antonio Gates SD
(Alge Crumpler ATL)

OT: Willie Roaf KC, Willie Anderson CIN
(Walter Jones SEA, Tarik Glenn IND)

OG: Will Shields KC, Dan Buenning TB
(Steve Hutchinson SEA, Allen Faneca PIT)

C: Jeff Saturday IND
(Casey Rabach WAS)

DE: Osi Umenyora NYG, Simeon Rice TB
(Jason Taylor MIA, Michael Strahan NYG)

DT: Montea Reagor IND, John Henderson JAX
(Grady Jackson GB, Richard Seymore NE)

LB: L- Cato June IND,
M- Zack THomas MIA,
R- Derrick Brooks TB
(Joey Poter PITT, Jonathan Vilma NYJ, Shawne Merriman SD)

CB: Ty Law NYJ,
Deltha O'Neil CIN,
Champ Bailey DEN
(Ronde Barber TB, Asante Samuel NE, Brian Kelly TB)

SS: Adrian Wilson ARZ
(Troy Polamalu PIT)

FS: Brian Dawkins PHI
(John Lynch DEN)

K: Niel Rackers ARZ
(Matt Stover BAL)

P: Josh Bidwell TB
(Brian Moorman BUF)

No Shaun Alexander????????????????????????????? NFL MVP. Set the single-season TD record. Leading Rusher.

If you can somehow justify that, I'll address the rest.

burger13
01-19-2006, 01:02 PM
Below are the players that I feel are MUSTS for ANY all-pro team:

QB - Peyton Manning - he was the QB/Offensive coordinator for the best (regular season) team we have seen in over a decade. Numbers were down form last, but may have had a better year.

RB - Shaun Alexander - NFL MVP, Leading Rusher, set the TD record. Do you really have to say anything else

WR - Steve Smith - there were plenty of great WR's this year, but Smith was head and shoulders above the rest.

TE - Antonio Gates - as a TE, had numbers that rivaled the best WR's

CB - Champ Bailey - was already considered the best cover corner in football and had what was probably his best year.

K - Neil Rackers - FG record and missed only once I think.

There is a lot of wiggle room at all other positions....but these guys deserve it, no matter what criteria you want to use.

NawlinsBucFan
01-19-2006, 01:08 PM
No Shaun Alexander????????????????????????????? NFL MVP. Set the single-season TD record. Leading Rusher.

If you can somehow justify that, I'll address the rest.

My stock fell on Alexander when he played so soft vs Washinton. He tends to do that vs hard hitting teams. It's not really about numbers either. Some guys still run hard even if they aren't gettting a lot of yards, but Shaun tends to go in a shell if he gets lit up a couple times.

But that is just how I feel about it. You are more than welcome to put him on you list. He is a great back. I just like a guy who runs harder when the yards are tough to get.

burger13
01-19-2006, 01:17 PM
My stock fell on Alexander when he played so soft vs Washinton. He tends to do that vs hard hitting teams. It's not really about numbers either. Some guys still run hard even if they aren't gettting a lot of yards, but Shaun tends to go in a shell if he gets lit up a couple times.

But that is just how I feel about it. You are more than welcome to put him on you list. He is a great back. I just like a guy who runs harder when the yards are tough to get.

Actually, I've always thought of Alexander on the soft side......I just don't think that this seaon was any indication of that. I actually thought he played a little tougher this year than he had in the past.

It's surprising to me then that you would put Tiki on the list instead of Shaun....because it seemed that the majority of his yards weren't 'tough' yards at all, but just running through wide open lanes.

NawlinsBucFan
01-19-2006, 03:38 PM
Actually, I've always thought of Alexander on the soft side......I just don't think that this seaon was any indication of that. I actually thought he played a little tougher this year than he had in the past.

It's surprising to me then that you would put Tiki on the list instead of Shaun....because it seemed that the majority of his yards weren't 'tough' yards at all, but just running through wide open lanes.

Tiki does get a lot of open feild yards but the thing that I like about Tiki, Warrick Dunn and Carnell Williams is that they aren't the biggest guys but the always run hard. They are more likely to wrap the ball up and try to get an extra yard or two than they are to just run out of bounds. Of course, I've seen more of Tiki, Carnell and Warrick than I have of Alexander, but the two time I've seen him this season I was not impressed. Admitedly those two games have happened to be his two worst games all year, or at least it seems that way, but that is what I have to go on.

Keep in mind, I mentioned that OUR lists should go beyond stats. Anyone can pull up the statistical leaders for each position and list the top two or three guys. That's easy. I'm talking about guys who influenced there teams in ways that go beyond stats. When Larry Johnson runs the Chiefs seem to have a swagger that they lack when Preist is in. There is no denying how Carnell seems to spark a fire in the Bucs in the 4th quarter of games. The energy that he brings gives the team an attitude that they are never out of a game (except vs the Pats:shakeno: ). In fact that the Seahawks seemed to play BETTER whne Alexander went down. I find that curious. When Tiki and Carnell struggled the Giants and Bucs got bounced. If Steve Smith doesn't go buck-nutty on the Bears, I'm not sure the Panters win the game.

But again, that's just my opinion. I'm not saying you are wrong for putting the single season rushing TD king on your list. I'm just saying that for my money, I want a back who can bring a certain attitude and swagger to my team, as well as dropping 100+ yard games on a regular basis.