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FinNasty
01-24-2006, 05:59 PM
In your opinion... how would you rank the top 5 DBs in this draft class? Here is how I would rank them...

1. Jimmy Williams
2. Huff
3. Bing
4. Antonio Cromartie
5. Youboty

Honerable mention: Michael Griffen - S - Texas

ckparrothead
01-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Huff, Williams, Cromartie, Simpson, Youboty. Bing probably doesn't belong on that list.

FinNasty
01-24-2006, 06:07 PM
Huff, Williams, Cromartie, Simpson, Youboty. Bing probably doesn't belong on that list.
I forgot about Cromartie... do you think he goes in the 1st even though he missed the whole season?

Also, what about Huff makes you put him above Jimmy?

ChambersWI
01-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Based on talent alone
1.Huff
2.Cromartie
3.Williams
4.Youboty
5.Simpson

sleepers:
1.Tye Hill
2.Allen Zematis
3.Richard Marshall
4.Some CB from Wyoming

FinNasty
01-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Based on talent alone
1.Huff
2.Cromartie
3.Williams
4.Youboty
5.Simpson

sleepers:
1.Tye Hill
2.Allen Zematis
3.Richard Marshall
4.Some CB from Wyoming
Why is Jimmy Williams falling down draft boards? I mean, I love it because it gives us a better shot at getting him... but I dont see how he isnt the best DB in the draft? Huff is great and all... but IMO, not better than Jimmy Williams...

SF Dolphin Fan
01-24-2006, 06:30 PM
Why is Jimmy Williams falling down draft boards? I mean, I love it because it gives us a better shot at getting him... but I dont see how he isnt the best DB in the draft? Huff is great and all... but IMO, not better than Jimmy Williams...

I've read that he doesn't take to coaching very well. If that's true, it could be the reason he is slipping down draft boards.

FinNasty
01-24-2006, 06:32 PM
I've read that he doesn't take to coaching very well. If that's true, it could be the reason he is slipping down draft boards.

Just curious... where did you read that? I havent heard anything about that before...

Dolfan1000
01-24-2006, 06:44 PM
1. Michael Huff
2. Jimmy Williams
3. Antonio Cromartie
4. Ashton Youboty
5. Ko Simpson

Now, thats based on pure talent. In terms of where I think they will go in the draft? I think Cromartie could fall due to injuries and Bing may go before Simpson.

phinfan_1
01-24-2006, 07:30 PM
I'm surprized nobody here puts Tye Hill in the top 5. He's small but he's the best cover guy there. And the quickest and fastest.

Pink_Dove
01-24-2006, 08:07 PM
Where's Jason Allen from Tennessee ? He was a 1st round prospect prior to his season ending knee injury.

FinNasty
01-24-2006, 08:28 PM
Where's Jason Allen from Tennessee ? He was a 1st round prospect prior to his season ending knee injury.

Agreed... He is going to be a steal...

Dolfan2788
01-24-2006, 08:52 PM
1. Huff
2. Williams
3. Hill
4. Cromartie
5. Simpson

paskerbrandon
01-24-2006, 08:57 PM
Bullocks looked real good from what I saw from pratice today.. same as Tye Hill and David Pittman....

Dolfan4life34
01-25-2006, 12:19 AM
huff
cromartie
williams
hill
simpson

Batman13
01-25-2006, 12:23 AM
Agreed... He is going to be a steal...
Not for us, hopefully. I think we have our quota filled for weak-kneed corners.

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 01:12 AM
Why is Jimmy Williams falling down draft boards? I mean, I love it because it gives us a better shot at getting him... but I dont see how he isnt the best DB in the draft? Huff is great and all... but IMO, not better than Jimmy Williams...

Because he plays slow. I don't know if runs faster than a 4.55. He got abused by Georgia Tech sophomore Calvin Johnson this year & exposed a weakness which is the fade. Williams best bet is safety.

1-Huff, Texas
2-Cromartie, Florida St
3-Williams, Va Tech
4-Youboty, Ohio St
5-Simpson, South Carolina
6-Bing, USC

Though at this point I don't think Cromartie will go ahead of Williams or Youboty because of his injury.

paskerbrandon
01-25-2006, 01:37 AM
Because he plays slow. I don't know if runs faster than a 4.55. He got abused by Georgia Tech sophomore Calvin Johnson this year & exposed a weakness which is the fade. Williams best bet is safety.

1-Huff, Texas
2-Cromartie, Florida St
3-Williams, Va Tech
4-Youboty, Ohio St
5-Simpson, South Carolina
6-Bing, USC

Though at this point I don't think Cromartie will go ahead of Williams or Youboty because of his injury.

I would love to snag Cromartie in the 2nd.. Alonng with either Cutler or Huff in the 1st and Whitehurst or Chrles Spencer in the 3rd..

FinNasty
01-25-2006, 02:23 AM
Because he plays slow. I don't know if runs faster than a 4.55. He got abused by Georgia Tech sophomore Calvin Johnson this year & exposed a weakness which is the fade. Williams best bet is safety.

1-Huff, Texas
2-Cromartie, Florida St
3-Williams, Va Tech
4-Youboty, Ohio St
5-Simpson, South Carolina
6-Bing, USC

Though at this point I don't think Cromartie will go ahead of Williams or Youboty because of his injury.

I completely disagree...

First of all, Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the country. If he could come out this year, he would be the first WR taken and probably a top 10 pick.

Second of all, Jimmy Williams is faster than a 4.55... According to everything I have read, he runs in the 4.4s. He might have been injured during the game you saw and been slower than normal, but his speed is fine, especially when coupled with his size.

Third, even IF he is a saftey in the NFL, he is still the best DB in the draft. He played saftey in college also. He is big and very physical, and fast for his size... A ball hawk and a play maker.

IMO, he is a lock for the top spot...

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 02:27 AM
Second of all, Jimmy Williams is faster than a 4.55... According to everything I have read, he runs in the 4.4s. He might have been injured during the game you saw and been slower than normal, but his speed is fine, especially when coupled with his size.

I know what they say he runs but he plays slower. Jimmy Williams was supposed to be the best corner in college & he got abused by an inexperienced Calvin Johnson. Jimmy is gonna face WRs three times as better than Johnson. Last year when he played safety he tried to cover Reggie Bush, that didn't turn out too well either, over 100 yards receiving & 3 TDs. Michael Huff is the best DB in the draft & he would be followed by Cromartie had he not been hurt.

FinNasty
01-25-2006, 02:38 AM
I know what they say he runs but he plays slower. Jimmy Williams was supposed to be the best corner in college & he got abused by an inexperienced Calvin Johnson. Jimmy is gonna face WRs three times as better than Johnson. Last year when he played safety he tried to cover Reggie Bush, that didn't turn out too well either, over 100 yards receiving & 3 TDs. Michael Huff is the best DB in the draft & he would be followed by Cromartie had he not been hurt.

He did have that one bad game. But to say he cant cover fast WRs isnt true. He had a great game vs. Sinorice Moss (and extremely fast WR). Moss to only 4 catches for 27 yards...

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 02:41 AM
He did have that one bad game. But to say he cant cover fast WRs isnt true. He had a great game vs. Sinorice Moss (and extremely fast WR). Moss to only 4 catches for 27 yards...

That would be impressive if Dorsey was the QB but our pass offense sucks. I'll have to look at the tape to see how often Williams covered Sinorice because Williams played exclusively on the short side of the field this year & I would think Miami played Sinorice a lot to the wide side of the field to give him space to work with.

FinNasty
01-25-2006, 02:45 AM
That would be impressive if Dorsey was the QB but our pass offense sucks. I'll have to look at the tape to see how often Williams covered Sinorice because Williams played exclusively on the short side of the field this year & I would think Miami played Sinorice a lot to the wide side of the field to give him space to work with.

Take a look at the film... Let me know how much he covered him...

but regardless... he can hang with WRs. If he runs in the 4.5s I will agree with you, but I honestly believe that he is faster than that... and plays faster than that too...

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 02:52 AM
but regardless... he can hang with WRs. If he runs in the 4.5s I will agree with you, but I honestly believe that he is faster than that... and plays faster than that too...

Again, I'm not saying that he doesn't run in the 4.4s he just looks slow to me. Calvin Johnson isn't the fastest guy & he blew by Williams a couple of times, including his season long 59 yarder.

FinNasty
01-25-2006, 02:55 AM
Again, I'm not saying that he doesn't run in the 4.4s he just looks slow to me. Calvin Johnson isn't the fastest guy & he blew by Williams a couple of times, including his season long 59 yarder.

Well, I didnt get to see that game. Did he make any fakes that got him past JW? or did he run right by?

Regardless though, I have seen alot of his games, and he is the most talented DB I have seen. I also think he fits our defense perfectly. He is a physical guy that is strong in run support, PLUS he is also versitile CB/S... Everything Saban could ask for. IMO, he fits our scheme better than Huff (even though I know thats not what we were debating)

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 03:11 AM
Well, I didnt get to see that game. Did he make any fakes that got him past JW? or did he run right by?

Here's what I wrote up after the game:


I agree. They weren't matched up much of the day because Jimmy Williams plays VT's "boundary" corner, which is on the short side of the field to support the run on the outside, & Calvin Johnson lines up on the wide side of the field most of the time to work in space, but the few times they were matched up together Calvin Johnson made Williams look stupid.

Of Johnson's 5 catches, 123 yards & a TD, his #s when Williams were on him were 3 catches for 90 yards & a TD. On Johnson's first catch vs Williams, Williams was nowhere to be seen. He "thought" he saw something & left one of the country's best receivers wide open for a 20 yard reception. Beamer was yellin at em afterwards. On Johnson's second catch vs Jimmy he got him to bite on a double move, which brings into question Williams' recovery speed because he didn't recover. 59 yards later GT was in scoring position. And on the final catch, an 11 yard jump ball touchdown, Williams looked lost. Johnson only has an inch on Williams so it should have been a lot tougher. Williams never got turned.

HysterikiLL
01-25-2006, 07:21 AM
I only saw three VT games all season and was disappointed with Jimmy Williams in all three. I saw him get beat at least five times, and for three touchdowns.


My list would go


Huff
Cromartie
Williams
Youboty
Tye Hill