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kitt23
01-25-2006, 04:42 PM
is it me or is this guy stupid, he had cutler going to the lions at the 9th spot, dont u think the fans will kill them for getting more offense when they clearly have no defense.

Dol-Fan Dupree
01-25-2006, 04:42 PM
no I think they are going to get rid of harringon. Culter is a good choice for them.

Buddwalk
01-25-2006, 04:44 PM
if they got cutler fans would be praising millen ;)

Caps
01-25-2006, 04:48 PM
I think Millen would further prove his idiocy if he took Cutler. He's on the shortest leash in the league. He doesn't have time to spend the 9th pick in the draft on a player that won't make an immediate impact at a need position, his job depends on him putting together a good season THIS year. Cutler won't help in that regard.

Philter25
01-25-2006, 05:07 PM
is it me or is this guy stupid, he had cutler going to the lions at the 9th spot, dont u think the fans will kill them for getting more offense when they clearly have no defense.

considering theres a chance they might give up on the harrington experiment and most scouts are saying what a lot of us have already said and thats cutler is going to jump up the draft boards, it wouldnt suprise me if cutler was taken ahead of Leinart or Young.

Motion
01-25-2006, 05:08 PM
I think Millen would further prove his idiocy if he took Cutler. He's on the shortest leash in the league. He doesn't have time to spend the 9th pick in the draft on a player that won't make an immediate impact at a need position, his job depends on him putting together a good season THIS year. Cutler won't help in that regard.

Good point, lets hope.

Motion
01-25-2006, 05:09 PM
considering theres a chance they might give up on the harrington experiment and most scouts are saying what a lot of us have already said and thats cutler is going to jump up the draft boards, it wouldnt suprise me if cutler was taken ahead of Leinart or Young.

If you would have said that 2 months ago people would be flaming you like crazy, telling you your crazy, etc....

Trust me i know :tongue:

redhead
01-25-2006, 07:49 PM
cutler will be the 3rd Qb taken

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 07:55 PM
Smart money says Cutler won't get past the Lions or Cardinals. Kiper is on the money for that one.

finfan54
01-25-2006, 07:57 PM
I think Millen would further prove his idiocy if he took Cutler. He's on the shortest leash in the league. He doesn't have time to spend the 9th pick in the draft on a player that won't make an immediate impact at a need position, his job depends on him putting together a good season THIS year. Cutler won't help in that regard.


Ever heard of a guy from Miami of Ohio named Ben Rothlisberger? He is starting in this years super bowl.

Caps
01-25-2006, 08:00 PM
Ever heard of a guy from Miami of Ohio named Ben Rothlisberger? He is starting in this years super bowl.

And?

sports24/7
01-25-2006, 08:08 PM
With his impressive showing in the past couple of days it seems likely someone will take him in the top 10, but I have read Lions fans who don't like Kiper's pick of Cutler.

finfan54
01-25-2006, 08:12 PM
And?


ummmm, he was an instant impact. He came from a small football school. Only difference is Vandy's team sucked. Cutler is showing people what he is made of without the talent around him. Thats why he is rising. Thats why people are willing to take guys like Cutler now without thinking twice because of guys like Rothlisberger. Im sorry i had to explain that. :goof:

Caps
01-25-2006, 08:20 PM
ummmm, he was an instant impact. He came from a small football school. Only difference is Vandy's team sucked. Cutler is showing people what he is made of without the talent around him. Thats why he is rising. Thats why people are willing to take guys like Cutler now without thinking twice because of guys like Rothlisberger. Im sorry i had to explain that. :goof:

Yeah, but VERY few rookie QB are exceptional like that. Ben is the only one that I can think of off the top of my head. If Millen expects Cutler to have a Big Ben-type performance his rookie season, than it only further proves my point.

SMadison29
01-25-2006, 08:26 PM
Cutler & Ben are two different types of QBs coming out of college. The extent of their similarities is their big arms. Ben was/is more accurate & makes much better decisions.

Gonzo
01-25-2006, 08:36 PM
ummmm, he was an instant impact. He came from a small football school. Only difference is Vandy's team sucked. Cutler is showing people what he is made of without the talent around him. Thats why he is rising. Thats why people are willing to take guys like Cutler now without thinking twice because of guys like Rothlisberger. Im sorry i had to explain that. :goof:

Well, if one QB in the past couple of years had success right off the bat, obviously it's a safe bet that all QB's after him will have the same success. Sorry that I now have to point out my own sarcasm. :goof:

Awsi Dooger
01-26-2006, 12:09 AM
Cutler & Ben are two different types of QBs coming out of college. The extent of their similarities is their big arms. Ben was/is more accurate & makes much better decisions.

Agreed. Ben also has much more variety in his game, in changing pace and loft to fit the situation plus moving around to create a passing lane. Cutler is basically a backwoods gunslinger.

Damn, I wish I could have been in charge in 2004. Admittedly, I'm normally better at isolating QBs who will flop (Couch, McNown) than I am at picking the best one. But that year was an exception. I thought Big Ben was better than Eli and Rivers wasn't even in his league. If we hadn't made the idiotic trade for Feeley, we might have had enough ammo to trade ahead of Pittsburgh and grab Ben once he slipped. The 3 or 4 teams immediately ahead of Pittsburgh obviously didn't need a QB.

PressCoverage
01-26-2006, 03:42 AM
i saw all i needed to see of Ben in person against USF in 2003... the real deal

anyhow, like my signature says, we should take a mid-round flyer on Eastern Washington's Erik Meyer...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=127528

Finfanforever
01-26-2006, 09:00 AM
Smart money says Cutler won't get past the Lions or Cardinals. Kiper is on the money for that one.

I would be slightly shocked if the Lions took Cutler. Remember they just named TB's DL coach as head coach. For that reason, i think they take the best defensive player on the board...I hope!

MiamiFan1354
01-26-2006, 10:15 AM
I think cutler could go as early as 6 to the raiders, so 9 or 10 is very plausable. If by some chance he does fall past 10, I don't think there is any way the Ravens pass him up. They are done with Boller and may be ready to bring in a new face at QB, although there is a lot of speculation that they will try for a Vet FA instead.

Finfanforever
01-26-2006, 10:23 AM
I think cutler could go as early as 6 to the raiders, so 9 or 10 is very plausable. If by some chance he does fall past 10, I don't think there is any way the Ravens pass him up. They are done with Boller and may be ready to bring in a new face at QB, although there is a lot of speculation that they will try for a Vet FA instead.

Boller showed promise in the last three games of the year. I do not think they take him. The Raiders however...

Motion
01-26-2006, 10:28 AM
I think cutler could go as early as 6 to the raiders, so 9 or 10 is very plausable. If by some chance he does fall past 10, I don't think there is any way the Ravens pass him up. They are done with Boller and may be ready to bring in a new face at QB, although there is a lot of speculation that they will try for a Vet FA instead.

I think Cutler could go as early as 3 to the Titans knowing that their staff has been working with him all week. Happened last year with Caddy.


Ravens will NOT take a QB in the 1st. Billick needs to win now. They don't have time to teach a rookie, they'll be bringing in a vet to compete with Boller. Plus Billick has been stripped of his offensive playcalling duties by the Ravens owner.

Motion
01-26-2006, 10:32 AM
The Raiders are a strong possiblity, especially if Whisenhunt take the HC job, but they also need serious secondary help.

burger13
01-26-2006, 10:33 AM
i saw all i needed to see of Ben in person against USF in 2003... the real deal

anyhow, like my signature says, we should take a mid-round flyer on Eastern Washington's Erik Meyer...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=127528

I don't think that it would be advisable to put the future of the franchise in the hands a 'mid-late round flyer'. And before you start talking about the Tom Brady's of the world......think of all the mid-late round QB's who have never won an NFL game.

Motion
01-26-2006, 10:34 AM
I don't think that it would be advisable to put the future of the franchise in the hands a 'mid-late round flyer'. And before you start talking about the Tom Brady's of the world......think of all the mid-late round QB's who have never won an NFL game.

I agree, its not as easy to find that "diamond in the rough" as some of you suggest.

burger13
01-26-2006, 10:36 AM
I would be slightly shocked if the Lions took Cutler. Remember they just named TB's DL coach as head coach. For that reason, i think they take the best defensive player on the board...I hope!

Marinelli being a defensive coach will have little/nothing to do with who they draft. Just think back to 1 year ago....3 new head coaches, all defensive coaches, draft a QB, RB, and WR in the first 3 picks of the draft.

Motion
01-26-2006, 10:39 AM
Marinelli being a defensive coach will have little/nothing to do with who they draft. Just think back to 1 year ago....3 new head coaches, all defensive coaches, draft a QB, RB, and WR in the first 3 picks of the draft.

Good point, wouldn't that be something if he stole Simms form Gruden. Doubtful yeah I know.

@@@
01-26-2006, 10:43 AM
is it me or is this guy stupid, he had cutler going to the lions at the 9th spot, dont u think the fans will kill them for getting more offense when they clearly have no defense.Who does kiper have the fins taking?

Finfanforever
01-26-2006, 11:55 AM
Marinelli being a defensive coach will have little/nothing to do with who they draft. Just think back to 1 year ago....3 new head coaches, all defensive coaches, draft a QB, RB, and WR in the first 3 picks of the draft.

I would agree with you but... the last 2-3 years the Lions spent all their #1s on offense. I still say they go defense and get a vet. to compete with Harrington.

NorFlaFin
01-26-2006, 04:07 PM
About Big Ben,


Very few Rookie QBs are given the reins to the NFL's best rushing attack in the past 10 years.

For the fact that the the studs on offense are the RB, improving OL, and shutdown defense. I'd draft Cutler and waive goodbye to Gus. Letting the rookie grow into the position is the way to go.

PressCoverage
01-28-2006, 03:11 AM
I don't think that it would be advisable to put the future of the franchise in the hands a 'mid-late round flyer'. And before you start talking about the Tom Brady's of the world......think of all the mid-late round QB's who have never won an NFL game.

that would be the case if it were anyone else.... this guy's a fine player