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King Felix
01-26-2006, 09:23 PM
laker fans flame me

bullseyeguy
01-26-2006, 09:45 PM
Hey Im right there with you buddy, screw Kobe (forcefully in CO).......
Nash makes the whole team better Kobe makes himself look better.

HugeFinFan
01-26-2006, 10:34 PM
Look I'm not a Kobe fan, but he has to be MVP right now.

Kobe
01-26-2006, 11:16 PM
You have got to be kidding me :shakeno:

Roman529
01-26-2006, 11:26 PM
AI for MVP...top 10 in assists besides being 2nd in scoring.

Fresh
01-26-2006, 11:27 PM
Yes, let's give the MVP to a horrible defender who leads the league in turnovers!

Allen Iverson for MVP > every other player in the NBA. Iverson hass been the most all-around player, by far. He drops in 33.5 points a night with 7.4 assists, and he's shooting at 46% (also, down from like #1 in turnovers per game last year, to #9 this year).

GreenMonster
01-26-2006, 11:41 PM
Lakers are only 4 games behind the Suns. To me its Kobe vs AI right now with Nash not even in the discussion.

bullseyeguy
01-26-2006, 11:49 PM
AI is closer then Kobe, but they are both on 7th seed teams as of today, Nash is on the 2nd seed in the West team. That has to say something as far as Most Valuable Player goes...Where would Phi or LAL be without those players? around the same places, but the Suns would be significantly lower in the standings.

King Felix
01-26-2006, 11:56 PM
without stoudamire

bullseyeguy
01-27-2006, 01:09 AM
Yes, let's give the MVP to a horrible defender who leads the league in turnovers!

Allen Iverson for MVP > every other player in the NBA. Iverson hass been the most all-around player, by far. He drops in 33.5 points a night with 7.4 assists, and he's shooting at 46% (also, down from like #1 in turnovers per game last year, to #9 this year).Leading the league in turnovers hahahaha! Why dont you say a few of the other names in the top 12 in turnovers, AI, Kobe, Wade, Arenas, Francis, James, Parker, Pierce and others......When you are the person whose hands the ball goes through virtually every play, thats gonna happen. Hes also averaging 11.5 assists per gameso thats 3-1 asst to TO ratio. Hes 12th there and most of the people ahead of him are bench players or on horrible teams. Not to mention the style the Suns play is uptempo so there will be more TOs.
P.S. AI is 32nd in Assist to TO ratio

djfresh47
01-27-2006, 01:21 AM
I think Kobe is putting up too good of numbers to not win MVP right now. If the Lakers don't make the playoffs, I think it probably should go to Nash or Iverson.

djfresh47
01-27-2006, 01:25 AM
Leading the league in turnovers hahahaha! Why dont you say a few of the other names in the top 12 in turnovers, AI, Kobe, Wade, Arenas, Francis, James, Parker, Pierce and others......When you are the person whose hands the ball goes through virtually every play, thats gonna happen. Hes also averaging 11.5 assists per gameso thats 3-1 asst to TO ratio. Hes 12th there and most of the people ahead of him are bench players or on horrible teams. Not to mention the style the Suns play is uptempo so there will be more TOs.
P.S. AI is 32nd in Assist to TO ratio

Tony Parker probably won't even get any votes for MVP, but the improvement he has shown over the last couple years is amazing. If he ever got a consistent jump shot, I think he could be the best point guard in the league. Regardless, he definately deserves to be an all-star this year.

HysterikiLL
01-27-2006, 07:55 AM
My MVP ballot would read

Iverson
Bryant
James
Nash

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 10:10 AM
mine would be Nash, AI, Wade

Buddwalk
01-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Heres my mvp ballot and guess what nash isnt on it this year

(In Order)
Chauncy Billups PG Detroit
Kobe Bryant SG Lakers
Lebron James SF Cavaliers
Elton Brand PF Clippers
Kevin Garnett PF Timberwolves

All of those guys have carries there teams not to say that nash hasnt which he certainly has just i dont think the leagues gonna go in his favor again. One of these 5 guys will win it and im guess its gonna be one of the first 3.


Rookie of the Year so far is Chris Paul hands down PG from the hornets. The guys an animal every night and hes a solid three from being an all star player right now. Heres the stats on the guy in only his rookie year

16.4 ppg
5.8 rpg
7.4 apg

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 10:14 AM
how can u be MVP if ur team sucks? KG? not in playoffs? Kobe barely in playoffs?
Brand i agree with, Nash is making raja ball and boris diaw look like allstars with Amare.

Kobe
01-27-2006, 10:37 AM
how can u be MVP if ur team sucks? KG? not in playoffs? Kobe barely in playoffs?
Brand i agree with, Nash is making raja ball and boris diaw look like allstars with Amare.

Kobe and the Lakers are only 4.5 games behind the Suns, thats really barely in the playoffs.

I like D Wade as well, but to say he is a better choice for MVP than Kobe is asinine. Wade has 2.4 more assists a game, but Kobe has almost 10 more points a game.

In all reality, its Kobe vs. AI right now. Kobe is clearly ahead right now, but AI always does well. You just have to give credit where credit is due. I despise Allen Iverson, but I still think he is a phenomenal athlete.

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 10:38 AM
maybe 10 more pts a game with 10 more attempts also

what about steals, rebounds and blocks? i bet wade is leadin him in those to, as well as wins

Kobe
01-27-2006, 10:43 AM
maybe 10 more pts a game with 10 more attempts also

what about steals, rebounds and blocks? i bet wade is leadin him in those to, as well as wins

by .7 .5 and .3 respectively, but Wade also leads in Turnovers. And not 10 more attempts a game, 8.7 :tongue:

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 10:45 AM
ok so wade leads in every category except pts and turnover, yet give wade anothe r8 shots a game he will have just as many pts if not more.

Kobe
01-27-2006, 10:50 AM
ok so wade leads in every category except pts and turnover, yet give wade anothe r8 shots a game he will have just as many pts if not more.

Ok, 8 more shots a game, shooting just under 50%, about 4 of those will go in. Thats 8 points, not 10, because we know Wade is a poor 3-Point shooter. Oh, and Kobe also has a better FT%, so its not every category :D

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 10:54 AM
with another 8 shots i 100% guarentee he would take atleast 2 FTs if not 3-6 more

Buddwalk
01-27-2006, 01:25 PM
I think towards the end of the season one man is gonna make a strong case and that man is lebron james. Come on how many people honestly thought they'd even be thinking playoffs this year?

UCFinfan86
01-27-2006, 01:36 PM
james chokes at the end of every game