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Dolphinsin2006
12-28-2005, 07:54 PM
What do you guys think of this guy?We should definitely draft this guy, everyone wants Cutler but he will most likely not be there for when we draft.We could get a young QB who could excell with another chance(Brooks, Harrington, McCown) in free agency or get an older QB to play for a couple years here(Favre, McNair, Collins, Culpepper) and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd who could be on the bench learning.

HysterikiLL
12-28-2005, 07:55 PM
Best DB in the nation. Will be off the board by the time we pick.

dominizzo
12-28-2005, 07:59 PM
jimmy the next surtain

Bjorn
12-28-2005, 08:11 PM
Jimmy is a shut down corner. He will be just as likely to be drafted before we pick as Cutler could be, but on the flipside there are alot of good players and both could be there when we pick. I would be happy if he came to Miami just as long as we didn't pass on a QB worth taking mid 1st.:dolphins:

phinsfan1989
12-28-2005, 08:14 PM
hes going top ten for sure

Dolfan4life34
12-28-2005, 08:26 PM
his stock believe it or not is dropping because they say he doesnt have the good speed that a corner should have they said he might be a better FS

ih8brady
12-28-2005, 10:23 PM
I'm for BPA, but if any position takes a priority, why not CB? Our secondary gets burned by that Jets third stringer and just about every team it plays. We'd be lucky to get Williams.

Dr.Rad
12-28-2005, 10:32 PM
Hands down the best CB in the nation... dude is legit, probably better than Hall was at VT

islanddolphin
12-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Jimmy Williams is up and down on the experts draft boards because of his ideal size and coverage ability but his lack of speed. He may be there in the first round when the Dolphins draft, but most likely will be gobbled up earlier. A corner the Dolphins may look at in the second round is Miami's Kelly Jennings. He has proven to be a shut down corner againts elite competition and is a very physical cornerback like Saban likes. He can play in run support and cover deep. As the Dolphins have proven they can find good cornerbacks in the second round and later.

Phishstix
12-28-2005, 10:51 PM
he'll probably be a fs in the league and imo will be a damn good one at that, and if he is there at 15 and cutler is gone, he's well worth it, but he'll be gone.

FinNasty
12-28-2005, 11:03 PM
his stock believe it or not is dropping because they say he doesnt have the good speed that a corner should have they said he might be a better FS

he runs a 4.4 40... coupled with his size (6'3) and great vertical leap... he would be fine.

Especially in this defense that thrives on big physical corners...

Even if he is gunna be a FS in the NFL, we need one of those too, and I might want him as our FS over someone like Bing or Landry...

DolfanCole
12-28-2005, 11:17 PM
What do you guys think of this guy?We should definitely draft this guy, everyone wants Cutler but he will most likely not be there for when we draft.We could get a young QB who could excell with another chance(Brooks, Harrington, McCown) in free agency or get an older QB to play for a couple years here(Favre, McNair, Collins, Culpepper) and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd who could be on the bench learning.
I'm still torn ... I'm a VT grad and, obviously, a huge fan. I've watched every game this year and many years prior. My assessment on Jimmy is that he is a player, no doubt, and he brings it. But, he just really didn't get tested at all this year (so far ... I would suspect that Louisville would test him since they're such a pass-happy offense). Plus, I really haven't been all that high on any CB's from VT that have been drafted. I don't believe that any have lived up to their expectations (see DeAngelo Hall, Keion Carpenter, Pierson Prieloue (sp?), Anthony Midget, Eric Green, and others). Maybe Jimmy is the exception to the rule. I certainly hope so, if we decide to go that route and draft him.

aboome
12-29-2005, 02:41 AM
i say we try to get blackmon not in the first but anywhere (2nd) that we can the guy is a ball playa

Nappy Roots
12-29-2005, 02:52 AM
I'm still torn ... I'm a VT grad and, obviously, a huge fan. I've watched every game this year and many years prior. My assessment on Jimmy is that he is a player, no doubt, and he brings it. But, he just really didn't get tested at all this year (so far ... I would suspect that Louisville would test him since they're such a pass-happy offense). Plus, I really haven't been all that high on any CB's from VT that have been drafted. I don't believe that any have lived up to their expectations (see DeAngelo Hall, Keion Carpenter, Pierson Prieloue (sp?), Anthony Midget, Eric Green, and others). Maybe Jimmy is the exception to the rule. I certainly hope so, if we decide to go that route and draft him.


didnt get tested? did u miss the GT game?

Spicy Henne
12-29-2005, 11:11 AM
I'm still torn ... I'm a VT grad and, obviously, a huge fan. I've watched every game this year and many years prior. My assessment on Jimmy is that he is a player, no doubt, and he brings it. But, he just really didn't get tested at all this year (so far ... I would suspect that Louisville would test him since they're such a pass-happy offense). Plus, I really haven't been all that high on any CB's from VT that have been drafted. I don't believe that any have lived up to their expectations (see DeAngelo Hall, Keion Carpenter, Pierson Prieloue (sp?), Anthony Midget, Eric Green, and others). Maybe Jimmy is the exception to the rule. I certainly hope so, if we decide to go that route and draft him.

DeAngelo Hall? He may be the best young corner in the NFL.

It'll be interesting to see how Williams tests in the short area quickness drills at the combine, cause he has straight line speed, but might lack great change of direction ability, being as big as he is.

kastofsna120
12-29-2005, 11:38 AM
terrence newman is the best young corner in the NFL. hall isn't great, but regardless, he has nothing to do with jimmy williams


and williams could drop a bit. his 40 time is more critical than maybe any player in the draft. i could see a rolle/pacman situation unfold with tye hill going ahead of williams, right around where we pick

Phishstix
12-29-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm still torn ... I'm a VT grad and, obviously, a huge fan. I've watched every game this year and many years prior. My assessment on Jimmy is that he is a player, no doubt, and he brings it. But, he just really didn't get tested at all this year (so far ... I would suspect that Louisville would test him since they're such a pass-happy offense). Plus, I really haven't been all that high on any CB's from VT that have been drafted. I don't believe that any have lived up to their expectations (see DeAngelo Hall, Keion Carpenter, Pierson Prieloue (sp?), Anthony Midget, Eric Green, and others). Maybe Jimmy is the exception to the rule. I certainly hope so, if we decide to go that route and draft him.

two things chuck. 1) j-dub didn't get tested b/c of the respect oc's had for him and the fact the he could lock the boundrary wr down throughout the whole game , and 2) what does d'lo have to do to live up to your expectations, be the nfl mvp? he is a pro-bowler, you know. and those other guys weren't near as heralded as j-dub and d'lo. as for j-dub, i don't think he projects to a top nfl corner b/c playing the boundrary corner made up for his lack of elite speed (a vt 4.4 forty means a 4.5 real forty), but he could be a competent corner or one helluva free safety.

and kast, your sig is the mother of all sigs, everybody has a price! ;)

K-train
12-29-2005, 04:36 PM
terrence newman is the best young corner in the NFL. hall isn't great, but regardless, he has nothing to do with jimmy williams


and williams could drop a bit. his 40 time is more critical than maybe any player in the draft. i could see a rolle/pacman situation unfold with tye hill going ahead of williams, right around where we pick

Didn't Newman miss that critical tackle?!

DolfanCole
12-29-2005, 08:15 PM
didnt get tested? did u miss the GT game?
Nope. I watched it. VT blew out GT. It wasn't much of a game.

DolfanCole
12-29-2005, 08:18 PM
DeAngelo Hall? He may be the best young corner in the NFL.

It'll be interesting to see how Williams tests in the short area quickness drills at the combine, cause he has straight line speed, but might lack great change of direction ability, being as big as he is.
That's highly questionable. He was a high first round pick, and so the expectations that go along with that are very high.

DolfanCole
12-29-2005, 08:19 PM
terrence newman is the best young corner in the NFL. hall isn't great, but regardless, he has nothing to do with jimmy williams


and williams could drop a bit. his 40 time is more critical than maybe any player in the draft. i could see a rolle/pacman situation unfold with tye hill going ahead of williams, right around where we pick
I brought it up, just as history of CBs from VT.

DolfanCole
12-29-2005, 08:26 PM
two things chuck. 1) j-dub didn't get tested b/c of the respect oc's had for him and the fact the he could lock the boundrary wr down throughout the whole game
There may be something to that. Although, I think it has more to do with the pass rush not allowing the QB time to find the receiver. If Jimmy was locked on the WR that was not on the short side all the time, then obviously that would have been much more impressive.


2) what does d'lo have to do to live up to your expectations, be the nfl mvp? he is a pro-bowler, you know. and those other guys weren't near as heralded as j-dub and d'lo. as for j-dub, i don't think he projects to a top nfl corner b/c playing the boundrary corner made up for his lack of elite speed (a vt 4.4 forty means a 4.5 real forty), but he could be a competent corner or one helluva free safety.
I hadn't noticed that he was a Pro-Bowler this year. My bad. Things must be really bad in the NFC. But, he was an 8th-overall pick. So, the expectations are very high. Since he did make the Pro Bowl, then that does mean a lot.

Also, I have heard on many occasions though that Jimmy projects to more of a Safety in the NFL. Partly due to his speed and partly due to his heavy hitting and sure tackling (i.e., ability to support the run).

saynotocutler
01-28-2006, 08:55 PM
i dont know if im just not seeing the name or what, but in a lot of the mock drafts i have seen (especially on finheaven) jimmy williams name hasnt been mentioned. to me he is one of the top, if not the top, defensive backs in the draft.

Bartowboy
01-28-2006, 08:57 PM
I agree but there is a forum for stuff like this.

fear-the-d
01-28-2006, 09:10 PM
i dont know if im just not seeing the name or what, but in a lot of the mock drafts i have seen (especially on finheaven) jimmy williams name hasnt been mentioned. to me he is one of the top, if not the top, defensive backs in the draft.

he is a bit of a risk because he is between positions. he is a slow but strong CB or he is a fast weak tackling saftey. could get burnt alot by the faster WRs

CaneFinFan
01-28-2006, 09:49 PM
Plus he's an A-HOLE!!!!!!!!!!

inFINSible
01-28-2006, 10:51 PM
Dub.....:tsk: