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UCFinfan86
02-07-2006, 11:09 AM
I am in some deep deep keeper leagues, liek 25 rosters spots with 20 team leagues. I need help with RP's. Not the closers but the guys that will get holds. People like Scott Linebrink are already gone, who else do you think i shoudl go after? I like Yhency Brazhoban but i need 3. Also what young SPs are out there, Papelbon, Liscanio, Verlander are already gone. Who are some sleeper guyz?

Rocky Raccoon
02-07-2006, 11:20 AM
I am in some deep deep keeper leagues, liek 25 rosters spots with 20 team leagues. I need help with RP's. Not the closers but the guys that will get holds. People like Scott Linebrink are already gone, who else do you think i shoudl go after? I like Yhency Brazhoban but i need 3. Also what young SPs are out there, Papelbon, Liscanio, Verlander are already gone. Who are some sleeper guyz?
RP Sleepers...

Huston Street, Oakland
Derrick Turnbow, Milwaukee
Travis Bowyer, Florida

SP Sleepers...

Felix Hernandez, Seattle
Matt Cain, San Francisco
Doug Davis, Milwaukee

heres where I got the info...

http://www.sportfanatics.net/Baseball/Fantasy%20Baseball/2006/Fantasy_Baseball_Draft_Kit.htm

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GreenMonster
02-07-2006, 11:36 AM
Ha, Street and Turnbow can hardly be called sleepers this year.. Add Hernandez and Davis to that list, Davis had 18 wins last year... Anyone can be a fantasy expert on the net so watch were you get your information.. Sleepers ha..

Clark Kent
02-07-2006, 05:35 PM
Ha, Street and Turnbow can hardly be called sleepers this year.. Add Hernandez and Davis to that list, Davis had 18 wins last year... Anyone can be a fantasy expert on the net so watch were you get your information.. Sleepers ha..

Before Johan became a beast, I drafted him in round 7... Everyone was like "WTF, way to early"... Needless to say I pwned that leage (as I do them all). Green is right... Anyone can be a sleeper. Just check out there last few years, age, etc...

UCFinfan86
02-07-2006, 11:15 PM
RP Sleepers...

Huston Street, Oakland
Derrick Turnbow, Milwaukee
Travis Bowyer, Florida




i need Rp that get holds

SMadison29
02-07-2006, 11:33 PM
Kyle Farnsworth or Octavio Dotel, Yankees.
Danys Baez, Dodgers
Okinori Otsuka, Rangers
Bob Howry, Cubs
Jorge Julio, Mets

All are new to their respective teams.

Ryan Madsen, Phillies
Juan Rincon, Twins

Ray Finkle
02-08-2006, 01:03 AM
Kyle Farnsworth or Octavio Dotel, Yankees.
Danys Baez, Dodgers
Okinori Otsuka, Rangers
Bob Howry, Cubs
Jorge Julio, Mets

All are new to their respective teams.

Ryan Madsen, Phillies
Juan Rincon, Twins

You could probably get Dotel very late because he's until May or June. I;d try and get Baez, he seems like he'd be a good pick up and could get saves if Gagne goes down.

Personally I'd stay away from Julio and Farnsworth but everyone else on the list is pretty good. How about Julian Tarveas or Mike Timlin?

unifiedtheory
02-08-2006, 01:20 AM
i need Rp that get holds


Justin Duchscherer is in the top 5 when we are discussing 7th and 8th inning guys. Before anyone argues, look at his numbers and remember it was the first time he'd been exclusivley a bull pen guy.

Joe Kennedy and Kirk Sarloos will also throw some innings for you. If the a's staff gets some injuries they could also sneak in a start here and there.

unifiedtheory
02-08-2006, 01:23 AM
RP Sleepers...

Huston Street, Oakland
Derrick Turnbow, Milwaukee
Travis Bowyer, Florida

SP Sleepers...

Felix Hernandez, Seattle
Matt Cain, San Francisco
Doug Davis, Milwaukee

heres where I got the info...

http://www.sportfanatics.net/Baseball/Fantasy%20Baseball/2006/Fantasy_Baseball_Draft_Kit.htm

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

The American League rookie of the year is not a sleeper. If the A's staff stays healthy and they get production from the middle of the order he'll save 40 games and have 5+ wins.

SMadison29
02-08-2006, 03:12 AM
Personally I'd stay away from Julio and Farnsworth but everyone else on the list is pretty good. How about Julian Tarveas or Mike Timlin?

You don't like Farnsworth? I love Farnsworth, hell of a fastball & slider. I wish he was still on the Cubs. Plus if you get fantasy points for beating the hell out of another player in a brawl he's a must, 2 & 0.

Ray Finkle
02-08-2006, 02:00 PM
You don't like Farnsworth? I love Farnsworth, hell of a fastball & slider. I wish he was still on the Cubs. Plus if you get fantasy points for beating the hell out of another player in a brawl he's a must, 2 & 0.

I think Farnsworth is going to choke under the pressure of NY. Just my opinion though.

dob72
02-11-2006, 07:44 PM
great steal for me last year when i picked up jorge cantu should have a big year again

i think ben sheets will have a big year and mark prior will come back strong

also check out the baltmore starting staff should all do better now that they got coach yoda there

Toneboy
02-12-2006, 02:27 PM
Got first pick in my draft this year. Think I'm going to take Pujols, on account that I can't stand the thought of having Pay-Rod as the cornerstone of my team.

phunwin
02-12-2006, 04:50 PM
Got first pick in my draft this year. Think I'm going to take Pujols, on account that I can't stand the thought of having Pay-Rod as the cornerstone of my team.

Sentiment has no place in fantasy baseball. I'd put Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin on my roster if they'd hit .300 with good power and some steals. If you have another, more legitimate, reason for Pujols over A-Rod, so be it. But dislike for A-Rod is a dumb reason to pass on him.

phunwin
02-12-2006, 04:51 PM
I think Farnsworth is going to choke under the pressure of NY. Just my opinion though.

Perhaps, but fortunately, fantasy baseball doesn't record stats like "blown saves in games that would decide first place in the division."

Farnsworth won't get many saves, obviously, but he'll probably get some relief wins, and should get plenty of holds, not to mention boosting your strikeout numbers. He'll walk some guys though.

MikeO
02-12-2006, 05:54 PM
Perhaps, but fortunately, fantasy baseball doesn't record stats like "blown saves in games that would decide first place in the division."

Farnsworth won't get many saves, obviously, but he'll probably get some relief wins, and should get plenty of holds, not to mention boosting your strikeout numbers. He'll walk some guys though.

Farnsworth will be a great WHIP guy. Those are the guys that end up deciding the guy who finishes in 4th place and the guy who ends up in 1st place in fantasy baseball

RWhitney014
02-12-2006, 06:39 PM
Farnsworth is a very good fantasy player, especially on a winning team. He's gonna rack up Ks and wins when he blew the lead and the Yanks scored for him.

Sleepers in relief, though?

Chris Ray, Baltimore...top prospect, will get a chance to close, has Leo Mazzone as his pitching coach.
LaTroy Hawkins, Baltimore, should be the set-up man, where he's significantly better, has Mazzone.
Dan Kolb, Milwaukee. Blew up in Atlanta last year as expected, back with the Brewers, where he was very successful. He'll be in a very solid bullpen in a MR role, should get plenty of holds on route to Wise-Turnbow.
Chad Orvella, TB. The unquestioned closer unless he absolutely bombs, Orvella's got great stuff.
Mike Gonzalez, PIT. I don't consider him a sleeper, but he should put up good stats as an 8th inning-man or a closer at times.
Minnesota always comes up with great relievers from their system, and this year is no exception. Boof Bonser had tons of Ks last season in AAA. Jesse Crain had a fantastic rookie year, winning lots of games (8, I think) in a relief role. Matt Guerrier is ready for his first full season. And while Scott Baker and Francisco Liriano are both starters, they're both the next Johan Santana from that system.

Those are real sleepers, for the most part, not guys who have 30-save seasons under their belt last year. You should be able to get those guys not only late in the draft but some as FAs too.

Toneboy
02-12-2006, 07:35 PM
Sentiment has no place in fantasy baseball. I'd put Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin on my roster if they'd hit .300 with good power and some steals. If you have another, more legitimate, reason for Pujols over A-Rod, so be it. But dislike for A-Rod is a dumb reason to pass on him.
No injury concerns with Pujols (cue disaster once I pick him). Consistent, solid line-up around him.

Think both are can't miss players, happen to prefer Pujols in a toss up.

Ray Finkle
02-13-2006, 01:55 AM
Farnsworth is a very good fantasy player, especially on a winning team. He's gonna rack up Ks and wins when he blew the lead and the Yanks scored for him.

Good points. Just my opinion but I think his ERA, BB and WHIP will be very high, I'd try to stay away from him.

miamikid92
02-13-2006, 04:43 PM
Good points. Just my opinion but I think his ERA, BB and WHIP will be very high, I'd try to stay away from him.

i see it when im playing on yahoo but what is whip:confused:

UCFinfan86
02-13-2006, 05:01 PM
i see it when im playing on yahoo but what is whip:confused:

walks + hits per Innings Pitched. Example if you give u pitch 9 innings, u give up 4 walks and 5 hits your whip would be 1.00 anywhere under liek 1.25 is really good

Ray Finkle
02-13-2006, 05:03 PM
i see it when im playing on yahoo but what is whip:confused:

Walks plus Hits Per Innings Pitched. WHIP judges how many walks or hits a pitcher gives up by the number of innings he pitches. Normally a pitcher is around 1.20, maybe a little lower or higher.

Roger Clemens' career WHIP is 1.17 and Randy Johnson's is 1.16, because it's so hard to get a hit off of them. Greg Maddux is 1.13 because he doesn't walk anyone.

Matt Clement's career WHIP is 1.38 because he's known for walking the ball park.

Those are just a few examples, hopefully it helped.

spydertl79
02-13-2006, 08:10 PM
Orvella of the d-rays, maybe im biased but this kid has GREAT stuff and last I heard is the unquestioned closer.

miamikid92
02-13-2006, 08:16 PM
Walks plus Hits Per Innings Pitched. WHIP judges how many walks or hits a pitcher gives up by the number of innings he pitches. Normally a pitcher is around 1.20, maybe a little lower or higher.

Roger Clemens' career WHIP is 1.17 and Randy Johnson's is 1.16, because it's so hard to get a hit off of them. Greg Maddux is 1.13 because he doesn't walk anyone.

Matt Clement's career WHIP is 1.38 because he's known for walking the ball park.

Those are just a few examples, hopefully it helped.



walks + hits per Innings Pitched. Example if you give u pitch 9 innings, u give up 4 walks and 5 hits your whip would be 1.00 anywhere under liek 1.25 is really good


thanks for the info guys

RWhitney014
02-14-2006, 01:41 PM
Orvella of the d-rays, maybe im biased but this kid has GREAT stuff and last I heard is the unquestioned closer.

Is there an echo echo? :wink: :chuckle: