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Prime Time
02-22-2006, 12:38 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=359303&cc=5901

Looks like he still has fight left in him...:up:

Section126
02-22-2006, 01:03 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=359303&cc=5901

Looks like he still has fight left in him...:up:


he hasn't been as good as he was in 3 years...by 2010 he will be worthless to the english team.

Has their been a more overhyped player in history?

Prime Time
02-22-2006, 01:06 AM
This season and last season, his play has dropped. 3 years ago he was still doing well. Euro-Cup he did fine.

Section126
02-22-2006, 01:19 AM
This season and last season, his play has dropped. 3 years ago he was still doing well. Euro-Cup he did fine.


I agree with that.

Since we are doing lists....does he even crack the top ten in the world anymore?

I believe he is still one of the best midfielders in history...but he is going the way of a run of the mill star and nothing else.

Prime Time
02-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I agree with that.

Since we are doing lists....does he even crack the top ten in the world anymore?

I believe he is still one of the best midfielders in history...but he is going the way of a run of the mill star and nothing else.

Does he crack Top 10 in the World? Not on my list.

Quelonio
02-23-2006, 03:50 AM
I agree with that.

Since we are doing lists....does he even crack the top ten in the world anymore?

I believe he is still one of the best midfielders in history...but he is going the way of a run of the mill star and nothing else.

I would never say he is one of the best midfielders in history... Think about it, he was never better than: Garrincha, Socrates, Michel Platini, Franz Beckenbauer, Johan Cruiff. Alfredo DiStefano, Ferenk Puskas, Diego Armando Maradona, Pelé, Bobby Charlton, Gambeta... And on and on...

He has been the most marketable star in history probably, but he was never that important... I wouldn't even say he was the most important player on England national team... I always saw Scholes and Gascoigne outplay him.

Section126
02-23-2006, 11:45 AM
He has been the most marketable star in history probably, but he was never that important... I wouldn't even say he was the most important player on England national team... I always saw Scholes and Gascoigne outplay him.


And Michael Owen......

Prime Time
02-23-2006, 05:51 PM
No way. In 1998-2001, maybe 2002 (debatable) he was England's Top Player. Also Maradona and Pele weren't midfielders.

ChrisKo
02-23-2006, 06:12 PM
No way. In 1998-2001, maybe 2002 (debatable) he was England's Top Player. Also Maradona and Pele weren't midfielders.

I'd have to agree with you on those time frames. Becks was pretty damned dominating with his vision and passing ability. His ball placement was near perfect no matter where he served it from. I just wished he would have shown that type of dominance for the full match. Maybe Sir Alex wouldn't have let him go to Spain had he played 100% all the time.

Prime Time
02-23-2006, 08:03 PM
I'd have to agree with you on those time frames. Becks was pretty damned dominating with his vision and passing ability. His ball placement was near perfect no matter where he served it from. I just wished he would have shown that type of dominance for the full match. Maybe Sir Alex wouldn't have let him go to Spain had he played 100% all the time.

Exactly. His playmaking ability with his short passes/long passes/free kick accuracy (shots and passes) helped England win so many games. That is when David was at his prime. He has dropped off, no question about it, but during those 3-4..Becks was as dominating as anyone. The man owned.

Quelonio
02-24-2006, 12:54 AM
No way. In 1998-2001, maybe 2002 (debatable) he was England's Top Player. Also Maradona and Pele weren't midfielders.

I beg to differ, although Pelé and Maradona both dobled as strikers, both where offensive Midfielders, especially maradona, in 86 he was basically a midfielder...

Now Beckham might have been a dominant midfielder at one point... but you said he was one of the best midfielders ever... and That is soooo not true

Migs182005
02-24-2006, 01:12 AM
As someone who watches him play ever week for Real Madrid, I can say he is easily playing better than anyone there this year. His energy has been up, he's stayed healthy and his been playing great.

The PROBLEM is that there is no one on Real Madrid who can head his passes. Ronaldo? Raul? (who has been hurt) Robinho? Cassano? These guys don't score goals like that. And so Real is using a system that they don't have the players for. NOW, if they still had a guy like Morientes, things would be different, but they don't.

And I know this is about Beckham, but since I'm on the topic of Real, I might as well vent my frustration at the fact that Ronaldo ever gets any passes. How can people boo a guy who doesn't get a chance to score? Arguably the best foward in the world when healthy and he gets what? two or three passes per game? Are you kidding me? I love my team to death, but they are never going to win another trophy until Florentino leaves. This whole Zidane/Pavon's mindset has been a disaster.

You want a list of Florentino's brilliant moves?
These are players that were offered or agreed to come to Real Madrid until Florentino changed certain stipulations. (Check the facts cause I promise you ALL of these were Real's)

Ronaldihno (Florentino told him to wait one more year, he went to Barcelona)
Etoo (Grew up in our system, told him he was not Real material, went to Barca)
Messi (offered to us, we said no)
Puyol (offered to us, we said no)
Viera (Ready to sign with us, Florentino told him he salary would not be that of a "galactico" He left)
Rooney (offered to us, we said no)
Ibramovich (offered to us, we said no)
Emersson (offered to us, we said no)
Again, I tell you these are not hypotheticals, read past articles and reports and you'll see all of them are true.

Prime Time
02-24-2006, 01:31 AM
I beg to differ, although Pelé and Maradona both dobled as strikers, both where offensive Midfielders, especially maradona, in 86 he was basically a midfielder...

Now Beckham might have been a dominant midfielder at one point... but you said he was one of the best midfielders ever... and That is soooo not true

I never said he was one of the best midfielders ever. Try and find where I said that. You won't find it because I didn't. I still disgaree with the Maradona/Pele position though.

Prime Time
02-24-2006, 01:34 AM
As someone who watches him play ever week for Real Madrid, I can say he is easily playing better than anyone there this year. His energy has been up, he's stayed healthy and his been playing great.

The PROBLEM is that there is no one on Real Madrid who can head his passes. Ronaldo? Raul? (who has been hurt) Robinho? Cassano? These guys don't score goals like that. And so Real is using a system that they don't have the players for. NOW, if they still had a guy like Morientes, things would be different, but they don't.

And I know this is about Beckham, but since I'm on the topic of Real, I might as well vent my frustration at the fact that Ronaldo ever gets any passes. How can people boo a guy who doesn't get a chance to score? Arguably the best foward in the world when healthy and he gets what? two or three passes per game? Are you kidding me? I love my team to death, but they are never going to win another trophy until Florentino leaves. This whole Zidane/Pavon's mindset has been a disaster.

You want a list of Florentino's brilliant moves?
These are players that were offered or agreed to come to Real Madrid until Florentino changed certain stipulations. (Check the facts cause I promise you ALL of these were Real's)

Ronaldihno (Florentino told him to wait one more year, he went to Barcelona)
Etoo (Grew up in our system, told him he was not Real material, went to Barca)
Messi (offered to us, we said no)
Puyol (offered to us, we said no)
Viera (Ready to sign with us, Florentino told him he salary would not be that of a "galactico" He left)
Rooney (offered to us, we said no)
Ibramovich (offered to us, we said no)
Emersson (offered to us, we said no)
Again, I tell you these are not hypotheticals, read past articles and reports and you'll see all of them are true.


The ones I am most upset about are, Ronaldinho, Puyol, Viera and Messi. Hey, how come they got rid of Samuel, I was never clear on that.

Quelonio
02-24-2006, 04:12 AM
I never said he was one of the best midfielders ever. Try and find where I said that. You won't find it because I didn't. I still disgaree with the Maradona/Pele position though.

Yopu'r right, Section was the one who said that... I apologize. I'll grant you I might be wrong about Pelé but Maradona was most definetely a midfielder. maybe not at the begining of his career but he finished as one.

Quelonio
02-24-2006, 04:13 AM
As someone who watches him play ever week for Real Madrid, I can say he is easily playing better than anyone there this year. His energy has been up, he's stayed healthy and his been playing great.

The PROBLEM is that there is no one on Real Madrid who can head his passes. Ronaldo? Raul? (who has been hurt) Robinho? Cassano? These guys don't score goals like that. And so Real is using a system that they don't have the players for. NOW, if they still had a guy like Morientes, things would be different, but they don't.

And I know this is about Beckham, but since I'm on the topic of Real, I might as well vent my frustration at the fact that Ronaldo ever gets any passes. How can people boo a guy who doesn't get a chance to score? Arguably the best foward in the world when healthy and he gets what? two or three passes per game? Are you kidding me? I love my team to death, but they are never going to win another trophy until Florentino leaves. This whole Zidane/Pavon's mindset has been a disaster.

You want a list of Florentino's brilliant moves?
These are players that were offered or agreed to come to Real Madrid until Florentino changed certain stipulations. (Check the facts cause I promise you ALL of these were Real's)

Ronaldihno (Florentino told him to wait one more year, he went to Barcelona)
Etoo (Grew up in our system, told him he was not Real material, went to Barca)
Messi (offered to us, we said no)
Puyol (offered to us, we said no)
Viera (Ready to sign with us, Florentino told him he salary would not be that of a "galactico" He left)
Rooney (offered to us, we said no)
Ibramovich (offered to us, we said no)
Emersson (offered to us, we said no)
Again, I tell you these are not hypotheticals, read past articles and reports and you'll see all of them are true.

I remember the Eto'o thing, I had a lot of friends wishing Madrid would be dumb enough to let him go... A lot of these people are strikers, Madrid does not need another one of all those I can tell you Vieira would have been key.

Migs182005
02-24-2006, 02:53 PM
Puyol is a young world class defender.

Viera world class mid field.

Ronaldinho/Messi/Etoo is a CLEAR upgrade over Robinho, Ronaldo, Cassano

Guys, Messi is going to be the best player in the world, he's only 18. He's much more complete than Robinho. Ronaldo is old and not as fast as Etoo. And Cassano is good, but he's not Ronaldinho.

Add Viera and Puyol there and holy crap dude. And like I said they could of have Rooney too.

The Samuel thing was stupid. He starts playing awesome towards the end of the season and then they sell him. Albiet Sergio Ramos is great and will be one of the best in the world for years to come, but look at the problems with Woodgate, should you really have let Samuel go?

Florentino has brought in different managers, different directors of player personal, different players and still Real is in shambles. The one at fault is him.

Migs182005
02-24-2006, 02:56 PM
It's not that they need another striker, they have needed to get the right ones. If real's game is going to be over the top, how can you not have a guy who' strength is that? Ronaldo, Raul, Robinho, Cassano? That's not their game.

And the MILLIONS of dollars he has spent trying to correct this. He let Makelele go because he didn't want to give him 13 million or so, and he has spent millions trying to fix a problem no where near close to being fixed

MiamiDolphins34
02-25-2006, 05:01 AM
As someone who watches him play ever week for Real Madrid, I can say he is easily playing better than anyone there this year. His energy has been up, he's stayed healthy and his been playing great.

The PROBLEM is that there is no one on Real Madrid who can head his passes. Ronaldo? Raul? (who has been hurt) Robinho? Cassano? These guys don't score goals like that. And so Real is using a system that they don't have the players for. NOW, if they still had a guy like Morientes, things would be different, but they don't.

And I know this is about Beckham, but since I'm on the topic of Real, I might as well vent my frustration at the fact that Ronaldo ever gets any passes. How can people boo a guy who doesn't get a chance to score? Arguably the best foward in the world when healthy and he gets what? two or three passes per game? Are you kidding me? I love my team to death, but they are never going to win another trophy until Florentino leaves. This whole Zidane/Pavon's mindset has been a disaster.

You want a list of Florentino's brilliant moves?
These are players that were offered or agreed to come to Real Madrid until Florentino changed certain stipulations. (Check the facts cause I promise you ALL of these were Real's)

Ronaldihno (Florentino told him to wait one more year, he went to Barcelona)
Etoo (Grew up in our system, told him he was not Real material, went to Barca)
Messi (offered to us, we said no)
Puyol (offered to us, we said no)
Viera (Ready to sign with us, Florentino told him he salary would not be that of a "galactico" He left)
Rooney (offered to us, we said no)
Ibramovich (offered to us, we said no)
Emersson (offered to us, we said no)
Again, I tell you these are not hypotheticals, read past articles and reports and you'll see all of them are true.

Said no to Puyol? lol Puyol said NO.:lol: I bet flopper would love a swap ronaldo for "we said no"ibramovich:lol:

MiamiDolphins34
02-25-2006, 05:11 AM
I agree with that.

Since we are doing lists....does he even crack the top ten in the world anymore?

I believe he is still one of the best midfielders in history...but he is going the way of a run of the mill star and nothing else.

Hes just good at free kicks and long balls.

Great players can take on a player and breakaway, Beckham can not do that.

Prime Time
02-25-2006, 10:49 AM
Hes just good at free kicks and long balls.

Great players can take on a player and breakaway, Beckham can not do that.

Now he is, but before he was a playmaker. Great players don't just juke a player and breakaway. That isn't a great player.