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Pennington's Rocket Arm
02-23-2006, 02:11 AM
the combine is just a few hours away, so i figured i'd make one last mock before everything potentially changes. i tried to be as realistic as possible here, taking a look at all the possible situations for each team, such as how many picks they had in the draft, overall coaching philosophy, etc.


1 - Houston - Reggie Bush, RB, USC
Needs: OL, TE, DL
Analysis: After giving David Carr the 3-year extension, it's pretty evident that the Texans are going to steer clear of drafting hometown favorite Vince Young. The mess in San Diego should be more than enough reason to not invest too much money in two quarterbacks. People have suggested that they trade down from this pick, as there are several teams that would salivate over the idea of drafting Bush, Young, or possibly Matt Leinart. However, with a once-in-a-lifetime back like Bush, plus with the Texans already having 4 1st-day picks, they go with the smart move and take the BPA.

2 - New Orleans - Matt Leinart, QB, USC
Needs: QB, LB, DT
Analysis: The franchise has a new coach and a hopeful eye towards the future, where they will attempt to rebuild their team as the city itself rebuilds. A face is needed for not only the team, but for the city of New Orleans. Matt Leinart, a QB who can start immediately, a QB who's a proven winner, a QB whose mild-mannered underdog demeanor has helped propel USC to the top of college football for 3 years, will provide the hope. With players like Joe Horn and Deuce McAllister, and Donte Stallworth (whose inconsistent career is setting up a breakout season, a la Chris Chambers), the transition from college to the pros should be easier. Jay Cutler and Vince Young are possible, but after all the workouts and interviews, the true top QB will emerge as Leinart.

3 - Tennessee - Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
Needs: OT, QB, LB
Analysis: With all the hype for both Young and Cutler, everything will start to come into focus once the Titans make their pick. So many different reasons for Tennessee to go with either player. Young is riding the ultimate momentum; an MVP in the national championship game. He has ties with Steve McNair. Jay Cutler wasn't in a bowl game and was virtually unknown nationally until after all the bowl games were over. But the folks in Tennessee know him well. A 4-year starter at Vanderbilt, Cutler has shown great progress each season, despite getting no boost from the players around him to help his progression. He has problems with mechanics, and his accuracy is often affected as a result of it. However, things like squaring his shoulders and setting his feet is something that can be coached into him. When everything is good for him, i.e. he has time to dropback and follow through with his pass, he's deadly accurate. No player is a perfect specimen entering the draft, and Cutler is no exception. I know a lot of Titans fans want Young, but they'll be happy with the end result.

4 - N.Y. Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T, Virginia
Needs: OT, CB, QB
Analysis: With Vince Young on the board, there will be some booing from the New York crowd when the Jets elect to take the best tackle in the draft over the exciting Texas QB. With the money still invested in Chad Pennington, plus the glaring need for a LT, this is the obvious pick. There will be some calls to the Jets for a possible suitor for Young, but in the end, the Jets make the smart move and take Ferguson.

5 - Green Bay - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
Needs: OG, RB, OLB
Analysis: With sexy names like Mario Williams and AJ Hawk on the board, Packer fans clamor for the franchise defensive player the team has missed for a decade. However, they'll have to wait till at least the 2nd round before their team addresses the defense as the Pack take Deangelo Williams, arguably the best "pure" runningback in the draft, and can catch and block very well. He racked up tons of numbers at Memphis, becoming NCAA's all-time leader from scrimmage. His profile looks a lot like Ladanian Tomlinson's coming out of TCU. Both are similar players in a lot of ways, what with being smallish guys who runs very well between the tackles, and can catch the ball out of the backfield very well. Some question marks on him include his lack of play against top-level competition and a leg injury he suffered at the end of the 2004 season. With Ahman Green leaving, this is the smart pick for Green Bay in a top-heavy draft at RB.

6 - Oakland - Mario Williams, DE, NC State
Needs: S, DT, LB
Analysis: Vince Young is there, and Al Davis certainly hasn't shyed away from players like him before, but with Andrew Walter on the roster ready to take over, and the constant "win now (baby)" attitude the Raiders have, Oakland selects the best player available, a freak of nature defensive end in the mold of Julius Peppers. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Haloti Ngata selected here as he has the same "freak" label on him, and Oakland needs more help on the interior of the line than the outside, what with Derrick Burgess coming off of a Pro Bowl year. Along with Burgess, Super Mario will give Oakland one of the fiercest pass rushes in the game immediately.

7 - San Francisco - Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
Needs: DT, WR, OLB
Analysis: A guy that along with Mario Williams can be labeled a "freak," as he has a sprinter's speed in a tight end's body. Very physical off the snap, blocking well and getting seperation, he has the ability to create a giant mismatch in the middle of the field on any down. Eric Johnson has had an injury-plagued career following a very promising rookie season, and while San Francisco may technically need a true #1 receiver to compliment inconsistent Brandon Lloyd, it's a very weak draft at WR and Davis can play the role as needed anyway.

8 - Buffalo - A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
Needs: DT, OT, S
Analysis: What seems like the obvious pick before the draft for Buffalo in Haloti Ngata changes as the Bills find A.J. Hawk sitting in their lap at #8. Considered by some the best defensive player in the draft, the Bills can't help but snatch up the Ohio State product and starting him alongside Takeo Spikes and London Fletcher, giving the Bills perhaps the best linebacking corps in the league.

9 - Denver TRADE: (Detroit receives #22 and #29 picks and a 4th rounder) - Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
Needs: DT, WR, DE
Analysis: The Lions are in position to draft Vince Young, a move that could help out Matt Millen immediately. However, with Young's raw potential, and the window closing on Millen's job (combined with the Lions only having 5 picks in this draft), the Lions field a few phone calls before pulling the trigger and taking the trade with Denver to move down in the first round. Denver siezes the opprotunity when they see Haloti Ngata slip past the Bills to #9. While the former Cleveland players on the d-line have been good, the Broncos still need a guy who can take over games and control the line of scrimmage by himself. Ngata is a player who can really help carry the Broncos to a Super Bowl on his back his rookie season, although there is some doubt in his mindset, as he does take plays off from time to time.

10 - Arizona - Vince Young, QB, Texas
Needs: OL, RB, TE
Analysis: Kurt Warner just got an extension, but let's face it, he's not going to be around forever. By the time Vince Young is ready to start, Warner will be on his way out. Arizona is a young team and will be playing in a brand new state of the art stadium in 2006, so a lot is expected from the Cardinals in the near future. Young will instantly be the face of the franchise, and while he may not even play for a year or so, there will be a lot of hope for a team that hasn't had hope in a very long time. Runningback is a popular pick here, as rookie JJ Arrington had a very tough time running behind a pourous line htis past season, but Green will give him another shot, and if not, there's a possibility of Edgerrin James or another good RB will be brought in.

11 - St. Louis - Michael Huff, S, Texas
Needs: S, CB, TE
Analysis: Before Mel Kiper can begin analyzing the Cardinals' pick, the Rams hurry up and hand their card into the commissioner as the Rams pick perhaps the biggest steal of the draft in Texas standout safety Michael Huff. With Adam Archuleta being on the way out, the Rams need a playmaker in the secondary who will contribute immediately and be the star of a fading defense. With the team's biggest needs being both safety and CB, positions that Huff knows well, this is a no-brainer pick.

12 - New England TRADE: (Cleveland receives #21 and two 3rd rounders) - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
Needs: CB, WR, LB/S
Analysis: Bill Belechick breaks the hearts of Dolphin fans everywhere as he sneaks ahead of Miami by dealing with his old pal Romeo Crennel to move up and grab Antonio Cromartie, who after the combine will solidify himself as a top 15 pick. As the Pats have more picks in this draft than any other team, they realize they can spare a few to grab a playmaker like Cromartie. An uncharacteristic move for Belechick, of course, but good coaches can adjust their philosophy when needed. Cleveland benefits from this trade by picking up two additional 3rd rounders, giving them 5 total picks on the first day.

13 - Baltimore - Winston Justice, OT, USC
Needs: OT, RB, CB
Analysis: With Jonathan Ogden on his way out, the Ravens make the smart move and grab his successor here, who will start out as a right tackle, his natural position from college. It won't be easy adjusting to be a LT, so Ogden's presence will help Justice out tremendously. I think the Ravens are sold on Kyle Boller for now, and with this being Brian Billick's potential final season as a head coach, the Ravens better start playing like a Super Bowl-calibur team they were made out to be this past season. Some people may be wondering why not pick a RB here with Jamal Lewis being left to go to free agency. I still think they will resign him, and at this point, Justice is the BPA anyway.

14 - Philadelphia - Lendale White, RB, USC
Needs: WR, RB, LB
Analysis: Since Reggie Bush draws a lot of comparisons to Brian Westbrook, it's only fitting that the Eagles draft Bush's compliment in Lendale White, the big bruising back who racked up USC's all-time touchdown record while flying under the radar of most of the country up until the Rose Bowl. Criticized for not running the ball enough, and not having the ABILITY to run the ball enough, Andy Reid silences some of his critics by drafting White, who will change the offense of the Eagles immediately. Santonio Holmes is a popular pick here, but I just don't think on a team that's already so young at WR will make that move. I see them pursuing Eric Moulds in the offseason to fill Terrell Owens' void.

15 - Atlanta - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
Needs: S, OT, RB
Analysis: A questionable pick to some, but consider this: Warrick Dunn appears to be on his way out. While at the University of Minnesota, Laurence Maroney played in an offense that designed it's running attack behind a zone blocking scheme. Atlanta uses the same philosophy, and will look for a guy to fill Dunn's shoes who is comfortable with the style of offense they run. Remember, Atlanta isn't going to look for a guy to groom, they want someone to play NOW, as they have plans to play in Miami next February. Safety is a pressing need, but so is runningback.

16 - Miami - Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech
Needs: CB, C, QB
Analysis: Along with Cromartie, Jimmy Williams is a corner who combines great size and good cover skills, but Williams is a much more physical player who likes to get in on any play, and is great in run support. Williams fits Coach Saban's defensive philosophy of being physical, smart, and versatile. Williams is all of those things and more. His versatility is a question mark to some, as there are thoughts out there that suggest he be moved to safety. Perhaps on other defenses it's a possibilty, but I truly believe Saban would have no problem filling Sam Madison's void with Williams. What about Chad Greenway you ask? I think the glaring need at CB will override the potential talent in Greenway. We need both, no doubt, but let's remember this: next year's top CB is most likely Will Poole, who Saban hasn't even had a chance to see play. A position with such a huge question mark as that needs to be fixed immediately.

17 - Minnesota - Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
Needs: OLB, RB, G
Analysis: Laurence Maroney is gone and Chad Greenway is still on the board....a no-brainer pick. A young linebacking corps already, the Vikes add a helluva talent in Greenway, a physical heady player who will lead the sometimes lost defense similar to how Lofa Tatupu lead the Seahawks' defense this past season. The Vikings will be a darkhorse Super Bowl pick based on their big defensive improvement.

18 - Dallas - Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
Needs: G, S, T
Analysis: Watson is similar to Haloti Ngata in a lot of respects. He can command the interior of an offensive line, but he has a knock for being a bit lazy at times. Considered by most before the season a top 15 lock, a lackluster senior year drops him a bit, and a nice offseason helps his stock rise again, landing him with the Cowboys, who are still looking for a true NT to plug up the middle of their defense. Jason Ferguson was brought in to do that, to disappointing results.

19 - San Diego - Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
Needs: S, WR, T
Analysis: People often asked this past season how the Chargers could not make the playoffs despite their talent. Quite frankly, they lacked the talent in the key positions. The secondary has been weak for years, and their o-line wasn't as impressive after Houston Houck departed for Miami. Antonio Gates is a great weapon in the passing game, but besides the ageless Keenan McCardell, not much else was there consistently for them. Now with Drew Brees on the outs, it looks like it may be a down year for the Chargers. I personally think they'll fall back to the form of old, picking in the top 5 next year.

20 - Kansas City - Broderick Bunkley, DT, FSU
Needs: CB, WR, DT
Analysis: Ryan Sims has been a disappointment, and for a defense that's struggled a lot recently, new head coach Herm Edwards looks to improve things the old Buccaneer way: from the middle and out. Bunkley will plug up the middle and help out a guy like Sims look better, and vice versa. Another CB would be nice to go alongside former Dolphin Patrick Surtain, but as I said before, with Herm Edwards in charge, things start up front on defense.

21 - Cleveland f/NE - Manny Lawson, DE/LB, NC State
Needs: OLB, DT, CB
Analysis: If New England would've stuck around, they probably would've taken Lawson themselves. He didn't receieve much attention playing at NC State, due to Mario Williams hogging all the pass-rush glory. Still, Lawson is a great talent who has drawn comparisons to Demarcus Ware from last year's draft. Not the demon off the snap like Ware, but still a damn fine player who fits perfectly into a 3-4 pass rushing scheme. Cleveland will build a hell of a team in this draft.

22 - Detroit f/DEN f/WAS - Marcus McNeill, T, Auburn
Needs: OT, DT, S/DE
Analysis: Sporting one of the worst lines in the league, Detroit makes the smart move and trades down to get more picks, while still getting a great talent in Marcus McNeill. His monstrous size is both an advantage and disadvantage however, so while a lot of people like his ability to shut down d-linemen, some question his agility and how well he would fare against the speedier guys. Regardless, he's an immediate upgrade for the Lions' woeful line.

23 - Tampa Bay - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
Needs: OT, DE, CB
Analysis: Simeon Rice may not be around much longer, as his cap number may force him to be a casualty, and considering the lack of a true speed pass rusher behind him (and alongside him), Kiwanuka looks to be a great pickup for the Bucs here, who look to build the defense back up to its glory days. They did finish #1 overall in the league last year, but with the oldest starting middle linebacker in the game, and two corners hitting 30, as well as Derrick Brooks, it's clear there needs to be a youth movement soon. A big tackle is also a need, and they probably would've taken one if Detroit didn't.

24 - Cincinnati - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
Needs: DT, TE, S
Analysis: Tamba Hali is certainly a possibilty as a BPA pick, but for Cincinnati, the time is now to focus on the playoffs, and to improve their already dangerous offense. Questions still remain for Carson Palmer, but regardless of who is under center to start the season, they'll have a quality rookie tight end to throw the ball to. Pope is a huge target and will defintely take some attention off of Chad Johnson. He will be needed in the run game, too.

25 - N.Y. Giants - Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
Needs: CB, LB, G
Analysis: The Giants are similar to teams like Cincinnati and San Diego, in that both had explosive offenses lead by young QBs with defenses that let them down more than helped them out. New York needs a true shutdown CB, and while some will argue Youboty is very overrated, I feel his physical play will be a huge asset to the defense immediately. The pressure will be on in New York, that's for sure.

26 - Chicago - Max Jean-Giles, G, Georgia
Needs: TE, G, CB
Analysis: A big mauler from Georgia, Jean-Giles helps out on a line that at times last year looked loss. Rex Grossman appears to be back as the starter and with Thomas Jones and hopefully Cedric Benson toting the pill, it'll be nice to see giant holes opened up by this guy for them to run through. A tight end is a big need, and the Bears haven't really had one since Ditka left the team, but once Pope was picked, there was no one else really worthy of this pick.

27 - Carolina - Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
Needs: RB, WR, TE
Analysis: Keary Colbert didn't play as well as he did his rookie season, and Steve Smith will only be open so much before defenses finally shut him down, thereby shutting down the entire passing game. Chad Jackson is a long lean guy who will be a huge target in the end zone; a real weapon on the fade route, one of Steve Smith's "weak" areas.

28 - Jacksonville - Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
Needs: CB, TE, T
Analysis: The Jags really need a CB to start opposite of Rashean Mathis. Hill is a short speedy guy, but he can cover very well. A nice compliment to Mathis, who's a more physical player. Likes to play the run, too.

29 - Detroit f/DEN - Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
Needs: OT, DT, S/DE
Analysis: Reminds me of Matt Roth from last year. Somewhat undersized, not great overall speed, but a great burst off the snap, and short arms. He's projected to go higher than this, but like Roth, I see a slide from him on draft day, which will probably stem from an undesirable 40 time. The Lions improve both lines in this first round, making some fans forget about the Rogers/Williams/Williams 3-year run from Millen.

30 - Indianapolis - Ernie Sims, LB, FSU
Needs: RB, LB, G
Analysis: Coming out of high school, Ernie Sims was the #1 player in the country--ahead of Reggie Bush. Not bad. Has he lived up to his potential? Yup. A very productive and natural player, Sims is a perfect fit for Tony Dungy's defense, which relies on smarts and speed. Not great size, but that hasn't hurt any of the linebackers Dungy has had before. Could play as MLB and drop into coverage in the Tampa 2 defense. I like his competitive nature.

31 - Seattle - Darnell Bing, S, USC
Needs: WR, OLB, RB?
Analysis: Bing will enjoy being on an up-and-coming defense with his former teammate Lofa Tatupu, and these two share some similar characterists. Both are fiery, experienced leaders on championship teams, and both have a physical style of play that Seattle needs. A WR like Sinorice Moss is possible, and more depth to the front 7 of the defense is always nice, but Bing is a quality player who will help out immediately on a Super Bowl-contending team.

32 - Pittsburgh - Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (FL)
Needs: RB, WR, S
Analysis: A reach for Joseph Addai is possible here. I could see Pittsburgh trading down actually, but in the end, with Randle-el going away in free agency, another deep threat guy becomes wanted for the passing game. Moss is perfect, and will not need to be a perfect WR, much like wasn't expected of Randel-el, so he should be a star pretty quickly.

playmaker1
02-23-2006, 02:17 AM
interesting, I like the trades

Roman529
02-23-2006, 02:23 AM
Nice job. I can't see the Raiders passing on Young if he is there. Kerry Collins is done in Oakland, and they can't be ready to put in Andrew Walter (2nd year QB out of ASU) as their starter. It will be interesting to see if Cutler goes before Young.

Alex44
02-23-2006, 02:26 AM
Well Dont always agree with you Juan but I love this mock

Not sure about the trades but they are realistic enough to not bother me, great job

unifiedtheory
02-23-2006, 02:44 AM
Nice mock...it's good to see some realism...

That being said, if Greenway is there for us when we pick Saban won't pass on him.

Danny
02-23-2006, 03:15 AM
Good job but I'd take Greenway over Williams but that's just me...having said that I think he'll be gone before our pick....Watson, Lawson or Carpenter could be our pick at 16.

Ozzy rules!!

Danny
02-23-2006, 03:15 AM
Good job but I'd take Greenway over Williams but that's just me...having said that I think he'll be gone before our pick....Watson, Lawson or Carpenter could be our pick at 16.

Ozzy rules!!

rafael
02-23-2006, 11:55 AM
In that scenario I think Greenway would be our pick.

In_Flames
02-23-2006, 12:08 PM
Good job but I'd take Greenway over Williams but that's just me...having said that I think he'll be gone before our pick....Watson, Lawson or Carpenter could be our pick at 16.

Ozzy rules!!

agreed, if Greenway is there we take him...

Motion
02-23-2006, 12:16 PM
I like it. I disagree with everyone that thinks we would/should take Greenway instead. I'd even be happy with Ko Simpson, I really like that kid. Secondary should be a priority.

rafael
02-23-2006, 12:22 PM
I like it. I disagree with everyone that thinks we would/should take Greenway instead. I'd even be happy with Ko Simpson, I really like that kid. Secondary should be a priority.

I just don't think Williams has the hips to warrant being selected over Greenway. And While I agree that secondary is a priority I don't believe you pass up the BPA (Greenway) especially if he happens to play in another need area.

Motion
02-23-2006, 12:26 PM
I just don't think Williams has the hips to warrant being selected over Greenway. And While I agree that secondary is a priority I don't believe you pass up the BPA (Greenway) especially if he happens to play in another need area.

I agree to an extent. I've never been very high on Williams or Greenway for that matter. Our front seven was a force last year and will only get better with the youth we already have. I honestly would be happy with Simpson at 16, unless someone unexpectedly slips down to us or we get a trade down offer we can't refuse.

playmaker1
02-23-2006, 01:43 PM
I just don't think Williams has the hips to warrant being selected over Greenway. And While I agree that secondary is a priority I don't believe you pass up the BPA (Greenway) especially if he happens to play in another need area.

I agree, I think if we can get Greenway, take him. The only guy I would want over him would be if Huff fell to us. Granted this is if we can get Brees, But I think we can get pretty good secondary picks in the second and third after filling the hole at LB since Seau prol wont be back

SeahawkFinFan
02-23-2006, 02:43 PM
The only problem I have is the 'hawks taking a safety. Ever since the SB consensus seems to be that we're in desparate need - and we aren't. Hamlin is projected to be back as the starter. Even if he isn't, Manuel showed himself to be a quality starter (although he's FA I think we'll resign him). We need depth, hich isn't best adressed with your first round pick, especially when Bing isn't even the best player available - Thomas Howard out of UTEP is, in my opinion, and I would expect him to be the pick in the situation you propose.

Also, I have to agree that Saban probably doesn't pass on Greenway. Still, your reasoning is much better than most mock drafts I've seen.

SF Dolphin Fan
02-23-2006, 02:48 PM
I don't really like that pick. I've read that Williams is hard to coach so I guess I'm inflluenced by that. I think I read that in Pro Football Weekly somewhere. Anyway, based on talent no question he's a player.

Motion
02-23-2006, 02:51 PM
Where's Cromartie?

Philter25
02-23-2006, 02:57 PM
I agree to an extent. I've never been very high on Williams or Greenway for that matter. Our front seven was a force last year and will only get better with the youth we already have. I honestly would be happy with Simpson at 16, unless someone unexpectedly slips down to us or we get a trade down offer we can't refuse.

I have never been a huge Jimmy Williams fan either...... I also would be happy with Simpson at 16 but I would prefer Greenway over Williams. Im not entirely sure if we even need the top tier CBs to be successful in our coverage schemes. Also after Williams got suspended in one of the latter VT games this year I watched, it just left a sour taste in my mouth towards him so Im sure im biased......

Overall, I disagree with some picks but its at least a realistic draft so good job. Its really hard to predict trades so I try to avoid them. Glad to see you have VY falling out of the top 4 also and Cutler at #3.

Philter25
02-23-2006, 02:58 PM
Where's Cromartie?

12 - New England TRADE: (Cleveland receives #21 and two 3rd rounders) - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
Needs: CB, WR, LB/S
Analysis: Bill Belechick breaks the hearts of Dolphin fans everywhere as he sneaks ahead of Miami by dealing with his old pal Romeo Crennel to move up and grab Antonio Cromartie, who after the combine will solidify himself as a top 15 pick. As the Pats have more picks in this draft than any other team, they realize they can spare a few to grab a playmaker like Cromartie. An uncharacteristic move for Belechick, of course, but good coaches can adjust their philosophy when needed. Cleveland benefits from this trade by picking up two additional 3rd rounders, giving them 5 total picks on the first day.

Motion
02-23-2006, 03:29 PM
12 - New England TRADE: (Cleveland receives #21 and two 3rd rounders) - Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
Needs: CB, WR, LB/S
Analysis: Bill Belechick breaks the hearts of Dolphin fans everywhere as he sneaks ahead of Miami by dealing with his old pal Romeo Crennel to move up and grab Antonio Cromartie, who after the combine will solidify himself as a top 15 pick. As the Pats have more picks in this draft than any other team, they realize they can spare a few to grab a playmaker like Cromartie. An uncharacteristic move for Belechick, of course, but good coaches can adjust their philosophy when needed. Cleveland benefits from this trade by picking up two additional 3rd rounders, giving them 5 total picks on the first day.

Don't mind me, I'm reading impaired today. :cooldude:

DcRy82
02-23-2006, 05:04 PM
i think greenway will be a stud for awhile in this league, but i agree and think our top pick needs to be used in the secondary.. in a perfect world huff falls to us, otherwise i like Cromartie, J. Williams, Ko Simpson...in that order