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SR 7
02-25-2006, 04:33 PM
after doing some checking to see wehre the LT in the league have been drafted or obtained, I have come to seee taht almost 98% of them were drafted in the 1st round from pick 1 to 19th. Now, 10 of the 12 teams saban said had LT that were one of the best in the game. I can see us oging have W. Justice now honestly. I think we need this to be a great team hoenstly. whether he will be able to go from RT to lLT i dont konw but if he can and coaches see it, i sure hope we get to draft him. No joke either, about 98% of em were all from pick 1 - 19 in round 1. it honestly shocked me. the top LT in the game. Pats, miami and a few here and there are the ones w/out the LT's. Bills as well.

Alex44
02-25-2006, 04:35 PM
That also means a lot of teams who drafted them so high suck now lol

The info that a lot of teams took guys that high is great and is an interesting fact, but im not sure it means we have to draft one

RoninFin4
02-25-2006, 04:38 PM
I'd think a franchise left tackle would be a nice asset to have to protect Drew Brees or which ever QB we get. Look at the Super Bowl teams, Marvel Smith and Walter Jones especially, are very good left tackles, hell, Jones is probably now the best one in the league. You can't honestly tell me you wouldn't want to draft a player of that caliber even if it meant using the 16th pick on one. I'm not saying any in this draft are as good as Jones, but a franchise left tackle can do nothing but help us in the future.

SR 7
02-25-2006, 04:41 PM
I'd think a franchise left tackle would be a nice asset to have to protect Drew Brees or which ever QB we get. Look at the Super Bowl teams, Marvel Smith and Walter Jones especially, are very good left tackles, hell, Jones is probably now the best one in the league. You can't honestly tell me you wouldn't want to draft a player of that caliber even if it meant using the 16th pick on one. I'm not saying any in this draft are as good as Jones, but a franchise left tackle can do nothing but help us in the future.

exactly and all were picked aorund our range or around the 11th. meaning they spent high piocks onthem which im sure says something.

RoninFin4
02-25-2006, 04:41 PM
BTW that is some good info SR 7. I think Justice is athletic enough to be a left tackle, he has even bulked up some, I saw a combine page from nfldraftcountdown.com that had him weighed in around 315, I think he'd be a great pick if in fact he falls to 16.

SR 7
02-25-2006, 04:59 PM
BTW that is some good info SR 7. I think Justice is athletic enough to be a left tackle, he has even bulked up some, I saw a combine page from nfldraftcountdown.com that had him weighed in around 315, I think he'd be a great pick if in fact he falls to 16.

thank you.

s3an8
02-25-2006, 05:06 PM
you hav a lil too much time on your hands...

SR 7
02-25-2006, 05:16 PM
you hav a lil too much time on your hands...

it wan'st that hard to find out the information. took 5 min

CrunchTime
02-25-2006, 05:26 PM
Most fans yawn when an OT is picked in the draft because its not a exciting position but I agree totally with the premise of this thread.

The best OTs in the league were drafted high in the first round.The top ones are harder to find in FA than QBs which is why so many of them are franchised.

If Justice is there by our pick we should draft him.I even like Mc Neil at that spot if his rumored back problems are disproved or minimized.

There are some character knocks on Justice but no one knows him better than our OL coach Davis who coached Justice at USC so we should have some inside scoop on that aspect.

phin-fan34MDH
02-25-2006, 05:44 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a Tackle for the future but only if Huff and Greenway have already been selected. I think our D is a very high priority, not that our O-Line isn't but with Houck at the helm of our O-Line I can see him turning rags to richs with whoever we pick up.

CrunchTime
02-25-2006, 05:50 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a Tackle for the future but only if Huff and Greenway have already been selected. I think our D is a very high priority, not that our O-Line isn't but with Houck at the helm of our O-Line I can see him turning rags to richs with whoever we pick up.


You can make clay out of dirt but you cant make steel from it.You need stronger materials to work with.IMO LTs are born not made.

RoninFin4
02-25-2006, 05:53 PM
You can make clay out of dirt but you cant make steel from it.You need stronger materials to work with.IMO LTs are born not made.

Agreed.

nighttrain76
02-25-2006, 06:31 PM
I will make a bet with anyone on this board that we'll go D with our 1st pick!!!!!:dolphins:

PhinGeneral
02-25-2006, 06:36 PM
If we do go offensive line with the first pick, which I'm still not convinced we will, I think the player to keep your eye on is Marcus McNeil, if anything because he has that SEC familiarity that Saban relied on a bit in last year's draft.

tylerdolphin
02-25-2006, 06:37 PM
Im all for Justice IF we get Brees. You have to protect your frachise QB. Now if we DONT get Brees (I think we will, but just for discussions sake) we should aim for one of the big 3 QBs

badfoot
02-25-2006, 07:25 PM
Anyone remember tony Mandich? lol well he was a sure fire cant miss guy that turned to total junk..just because you take a guy at 16 doesnt mean he is gonna be a franchise type LT!!!! Gawd i get tired of people thinking that.If i remember right we tookcarey around the same spot and look waht a great player he has been?..Seriously anything but dbrickshaw at 16 is a REACH! bigtime!!!There are NO LT worth the 16 overall pick!!!Period.This is well documented also.the draft is thin at the top with quality LT's but i have read that it will have some great value at the 3rd round and beyond...For that reason and the fact that this team needs so many things i see us either going with the best defensive player on the board either LB or DB...There is always the chance we move down a little to try to get more picks,which might be a good idea this year...

PHINANALYST
02-25-2006, 07:33 PM
It would not be a surprise at all for SABAN to select a T in the 1st round -

That would only happen though if Houck was sure that the player could step in and START this year .... as we wouldn't restructure McIntosh at the same time ...

He aready has Alibi as a 'project' ... we don't need another one.

Either Alibi or the draftee would have to start this year.

Deus Ex Dolphin
02-25-2006, 07:37 PM
I'm good with getting a solid LT, if there is a guy there that isn't a reach at #16. Once you get a good one, you can get a good 10-12 years out of the guy and spend those other drafts on the "skill positions".

I agree that keeping Brees upright, and with time to throw, and some holes for Ronnie to run through is more important than other team needs. You simply won't find a good LT through free agency, but you can get most any defensive player.

Yeah, I think the Phins need secondary help, and I'd love to see another CB or Safety picked first round, but the team is better off long term with a solid LT and a cheaper vet CB, versus keeping McIntosh and getting a rookie CB.

SR 7
02-25-2006, 07:51 PM
I'm good with getting a solid LT, if there is a guy there that isn't a reach at #16. Once you get a good one, you can get a good 10-12 years out of the guy and spend those other drafts on the "skill positions".

I agree that keeping Brees upright, and with time to throw, and some holes for Ronnie to run through is more important than other team needs. You simply won't find a good LT through free agency, but you can get most any defensive player.

Yeah, I think the Phins need secondary help, and I'd love to see another CB or Safety picked first round, but the team is better off long term with a solid LT and a cheaper vet CB, versus keeping McIntosh and getting a rookie CB.

yea i agree. I rather go LT adn Blue or FA LT for a 2 yr or a 1 yr deal then Lawson and Blue or osmethign alone those lines. (meaning 1st and 2nd rd picks)

tylerdolphin
02-25-2006, 08:02 PM
Anyone remember tony Mandich? lol well he was a sure fire cant miss guy that turned to total junk..just because you take a guy at 16 doesnt mean he is gonna be a franchise type LT!!!! Gawd i get tired of people thinking that.If i remember right we tookcarey around the same spot and look waht a great player he has been?..Seriously anything but dbrickshaw at 16 is a REACH! bigtime!!!There are NO LT worth the 16 overall pick!!!Period.This is well documented also.the draft is thin at the top with quality LT's but i have read that it will have some great value at the 3rd round and beyond...For that reason and the fact that this team needs so many things i see us either going with the best defensive player on the board either LB or DB...There is always the chance we move down a little to try to get more picks,which might be a good idea this year...
A linebacker can bust. A CB can. A QB can. A safety can. A RB can. A WR can. A DL can. A TE can. What do you propose that we pick? A tackle can work out, or not. Same as any position

Skeet84
02-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Well I have been on the Draft Winston Justice Bandwagon for a long time. I would only draft Jimmy Williams or Michael Huff unless some huge slipped to us.

rafael
02-25-2006, 08:23 PM
Anyone remember tony Mandich? lol well he was a sure fire cant miss guy that turned to total junk..just because you take a guy at 16 doesnt mean he is gonna be a franchise type LT!!!! Gawd i get tired of people thinking that.If i remember right we tookcarey around the same spot and look waht a great player he has been?..Seriously anything but dbrickshaw at 16 is a REACH! bigtime!!!There are NO LT worth the 16 overall pick!!!Period.This is well documented also.the draft is thin at the top with quality LT's but i have read that it will have some great value at the 3rd round and beyond...For that reason and the fact that this team needs so many things i see us either going with the best defensive player on the board either LB or DB...There is always the chance we move down a little to try to get more picks,which might be a good idea this year...

Justice is rated in that range. It's about 50/50 whether he'll last to 16.

Dolfan2788
02-25-2006, 08:25 PM
Anyone remember tony Mandich? lol well he was a sure fire cant miss guy that turned to total junk..just because you take a guy at 16 doesnt mean he is gonna be a franchise type LT!!!! Gawd i get tired of people thinking that.If i remember right we tookcarey around the same spot and look waht a great player he has been?..Seriously anything but dbrickshaw at 16 is a REACH! bigtime!!!There are NO LT worth the 16 overall pick!!!Period.This is well documented also.the draft is thin at the top with quality LT's but i have read that it will have some great value at the 3rd round and beyond...For that reason and the fact that this team needs so many things i see us either going with the best defensive player on the board either LB or DB...There is always the chance we move down a little to try to get more picks,which might be a good idea this year...

How is the talent at LT thin at the top?

There is a great LT in D'Brick, Eric Winston who just ran 4.93 at 310 pounds. And Winston Justice whose measurables are great for LT and all are projected in the 1st round.

If you are talking about the LT's like Trueblood then lord help us if we pick him. Those guys are rated there because they just aren't as good as guys like Winston and Justice.

RoninFin4
02-26-2006, 02:23 AM
Anyone remember tony Mandich? lol well he was a sure fire cant miss guy that turned to total junk..just because you take a guy at 16 doesnt mean he is gonna be a franchise type LT!!!! Gawd i get tired of people thinking that.If i remember right we tookcarey around the same spot and look waht a great player he has been?..Seriously anything but dbrickshaw at 16 is a REACH! bigtime!!!There are NO LT worth the 16 overall pick!!!Period.This is well documented also.the draft is thin at the top with quality LT's but i have read that it will have some great value at the 3rd round and beyond...For that reason and the fact that this team needs so many things i see us either going with the best defensive player on the board either LB or DB...There is always the chance we move down a little to try to get more picks,which might be a good idea this year...

Vernon Carey wasn't even a left tackle in college and projected as a guard in the pros.