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BgBruthaJuvi
02-28-2006, 08:36 PM
I just got this from John Clayton from 2/27 on ESPN Insider.

"Incentive to win: The Dolphins tabulated all the incentive bonuses that kicked in from their nine win season in 2005 and found out they will have a little less than $10 million removed from this year's cap. The Dolphins structured a lot of their incentives to a winning season. Nick Saban got hot at the end of the season and finished at 9-7."

BgBruthaJuvi
02-28-2006, 08:37 PM
Ah damn, should have posted in salary cap forum.

Ark139954
02-28-2006, 08:50 PM
wat does that mean????

Dolfan1000
02-28-2006, 08:57 PM
I THINK this means that some of the salary that would normally counts against the cap gets converted to an "incentive", which comes off the cap figure, creating more room.

Not sure, could be that 10 million is added also.

Whitedolphin54
02-28-2006, 09:05 PM
I THINK this means that some of the salary that would normally counts against the cap gets converted to an "incentive", which comes off the cap figure, creating more room.

Not sure, could be that 10 million is added also.


Or 10 million deducted ---i'm confused

havanahec
02-28-2006, 09:29 PM
Or 10 million deducted ---i'm confused


Dont worry White, its only going to get more cunfusing if the CBA deal doesnt get done.

aquawave
02-28-2006, 09:40 PM
It means we have 10 mil less because we have to pay those incentives to the players

RalphX19X
02-28-2006, 10:24 PM
It means we have 10 mil less because we have to pay those incentives to the players
It says we payed them in 2005.

Mike13
02-28-2006, 10:34 PM
It says we payed them in 2005.

So we get a cap break?

fins1
02-28-2006, 10:36 PM
It says they kicked in because of the winning season. We pay them now. We get screwed again.

tylerdolphin
02-28-2006, 10:37 PM
Its confusing. Why though would saban give incentives that would cost us that much for a winning season? Did he not expect us to have a winning year?

Alex44
02-28-2006, 10:38 PM
It could mean 2 things

1- If they have a winning season in 05 they get more in 06

2- If they have a winning season in 05, they get additional money as a bonuc that would have been paid in later years, thereby giving us additional space this year

Winbaby#23
02-28-2006, 10:46 PM
It says they kicked in because of the winning season. We pay them now. We get screwed again.Wrong... we get cap relief:tantrum:

J Tes
02-28-2006, 10:55 PM
It could mean 2 things

1- If they have a winning season in 05 they get more in 06

2- If they have a winning season in 05, they get additional money as a bonuc that would have been paid in later years, thereby giving us additional space this year
or neither...It means the incentives in players contracts were based upon a winning season, Miami wnet 9-7, therefor alot of incentives kicked in. The 10 million DOESNT mean extra money. The 10 million is all that is coming of the books.
Simply....Miami has less money to spend then originally thought

J Tes
02-28-2006, 10:55 PM
Wrong... we get cap relief:tantrum:
No you are wrong

Troysif
02-28-2006, 11:18 PM
OK all yall are doing is agruing, truthfully none of you know, so just sit back and wait to find out

etsudolfan
03-01-2006, 01:07 AM
I agree.....

Clumpy
03-01-2006, 01:27 AM
I explained this in the salary cap forum "cap tidbit from clayton"

It basically means that Miami's cap adjustment is a debit of between $9-10 million. So, if the NFL announces a league wide salary cap of $95 million, Miami's adjusted salary cap will between $9-10 million lower

finfan54
03-01-2006, 08:26 AM
well the story says we would be 2 million under, so if you believe the story, whats not to understand?

tylerdolphin
03-01-2006, 09:26 AM
It says "incentive to win" which makes me think that because we won, we get some money

Clumpy
03-01-2006, 10:34 AM
Players earned bonuses based on winning games......these are NLTBE incentives...most of them count on the following yrs cap......Miami's adjusted salary cap will be $9-10 million LOWER than the league wide unadjusted salary cap.

fins2923
03-01-2006, 12:39 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

21.9 over according to Clayton. Tell me he is mistaken.

Scott Andrew
03-01-2006, 02:19 PM
So who is right... Clumpy or Clayton?

Flying Pencil
03-01-2006, 07:10 PM
So who is right... Clumpy or Clayton?

They're both saying pretty much the same thing.

Some players had bonuses for a winning 2005 season in their contracts. Since we had finished 4-12 in 2004, these bonuses were considered Not-Likely-To-Be-Earned (NLTBE) incentives and were not counted on the 2005 cap. Since we finished 9-7, those bonuses kicked in and were brought forward as a negative adjustment on our 2006 cap.

Additionally, since we're coming off a 9-7 2005, any player with a similar bonus this year would have it considered Likely-To-Be-Earned (LTBE) and have it count against the cap as well. However, that would be because it was added to their salary.

Unadjusted Leaguewide Cap Limit ($95 mill.)
- previous year's NLTBE incentives that were met ($9+ mill.)
+ previous year's LTBE incentives that were missed ($?)

Adjusted Cap Limit ($85-86 million)

This is a reduction in the amount of cap money we're allowed to spend. This is not cap relief.

gator_sensation
03-01-2006, 08:47 PM
According to ESPN, we should be under the cap with the cuts we just made.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350228

aquawave
03-01-2006, 09:51 PM
They're both saying pretty much the same thing.

Some players had bonuses for a winning 2005 season in their contracts. Since we had finished 4-12 in 2004, these bonuses were considered Not-Likely-To-Be-Earned (NLTBE) incentives and were not counted on the 2005 cap. Since we finished 9-7, those bonuses kicked in and were brought forward as a negative adjustment on our 2006 cap.

Additionally, since we're coming off a 9-7 2005, any player with a similar bonus this year would have it considered Likely-To-Be-Earned (LTBE) and have it count against the cap as well. However, that would be because it was added to their salary.

Unadjusted Leaguewide Cap Limit ($95 mill.)
- previous year's NLTBE incentives that were met ($9+ mill.)
+ previous year's LTBE incentives that were missed ($?)

Adjusted Cap Limit ($85-86 million)

This is a reduction in the amount of cap money we're allowed to spend. This is not cap relief.


OK, that makes sense now