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Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 12:56 AM
I have each bracket seperated by a different color...seems like villanova might be getting a easy ride to the final four to me.

(1) Duke
(16) Southern/
Fairleigh Dickinson

(8) Bucknell
(9) Alabama

(5) Iowa
(12) Air Force

(4) Georgetown
(13) N'western St.

(6) Kansas
(11) UNC-Wilm.

(3) Pittsburgh
(14) Winthrop

(7) Wichita St.
(10) Cal

(2) Tennessee
(15) Oral Roberts

(1) Memphis
(16) Ga. Southern

(8) No. Iowa
(9) Arizona

(5) Michigan St.
(12) W. Kentucky

(4) West Virginia
(13) San Diego St.

(6) Boston College
(11) Indiana

(3) LSU
(14) Murray State

(7) George Mason
(10) Syracuse

(2) Texas
(15) Albany


(1) Connecticut
(16) Delaware St.

(8) Michigan
(9) Missouri St.

(5) Florida
(12) Hofstra

(4) UCLA
(13) UW-Mil.

(6) N.C. State
(11) Cincinnati

(3) Illinois
(14) Penn

(7) Oklahoma
(10) Kentucky

(2) Gonzaga
(15) Pacific

(1) Villanova
(16) Lipscomb

(8) Wisconsin
(9) Creighton

(5) Washington
(12) Bradley

(4) G. Washington
(13) Kent St.

(6) Marquette
(11) Colorado

(3) North Carolina
(14) Manhattan

(7) Arkansas
(10) Nevada

(2) Ohio St.
(15) No. Arizona


Bubbles burst: Seton Hall, So. Illinois, Florida St., UAB


Looking at the first bracket

I see these teams moving on....Duke, Alabama, Iowa, Georgetown, Kansas, Pittsburgh, Cal, Tennessee. Then in the second round I see

Duke, Georgetown, Pittsburgh, Tennessee

Then Duke vs Georgetown...i'd love to pick the hoyas to do it again but right now I feel duke can beat anyone in the country when there on there game...they wont lose here. Winner - Duke

Then Pittsburgh vs Tennessee...very good game both teams matched up very well but if pittsburgh can get there game working i really dont see the volunteers even staying on the same court with them for long. Winner - Pittsburgh

Onto bracket #2

Memphis, Arizona, Michigan State, West Virginia, Indiana, LSU, Syracuse, Texas

Round 2...I see Memphis, West Virginia, LSU, Texas

Then Memphis vs West Virginia...gonna be one of the best games in the tournament, memphis hasnt showed any signs of letting up and have been one of the most consistant teams in the whole country...but I just think west virginia is the better team right now...not talent wise, just how they run the floor, attack inside ect. There playing amazing. Winner - West Virginia

Then LSU vs Texas...Texas has alot more talent...but lsu with tyrus thomas and a couple other guys arent really pushovers either and there gonna prove they can get the job done. Im actually saving that one big game of the year from daniel gibson to be tonight. Winner - Texas

Onto Bracket #3

Uconn, Michigan, Florida, UCLA, Cincinatti, Illinois, Kentucky, Gonzaga

Round 2...Uconn, Florida, Illinois, Gonzaga

Then UCONN vs Florida...Gonna be a tremendous game, florida has been the shocker of the year so far they started off like 17-0 then kinda faltered...but there still playing at a very high level. Uconn just has too much talent to be over taken in this one imo. Winner - UCONN

Then Illinois vs Gonzaga...Best elite game in the whole tournament, even better then the west virginia/memphis game. If dee brown can run the floor and get his teams chemistry working on the court there gonna be very tough to beat...but they gotta knock down there 3s for this to take place. Gonzaga is actually a really good team outside of adam morrison with Derek Raivio running the point and inside JP Batista averaging nearly 20 ppg and 10 rpg. But I did forget to mention they got a guy named Adam Morrison, who is the leading scorer in the country. There gonna have a hard time containing him on this night. Winner - Gonzaga


Onto Bracket #4

Villanova, Wisconsin, Washington, George Washington, Colorado, North Carolina, Arkansas, Ohio State

Round 2...Villanova, George Washington, North Carolina, Arkansas

Then Villanova vs George Washington...Novas only test on the road to the final four, george washington is very tough but novas just got too many pure shooters for this to even be a game. Winner - Villanova

Then North Carolina vs Arkansas....Arkansas is my team to surprise in this tournament...not based on the talent of there roster, but based on how they play as a team. But arkansas has beaten florida, alabama, and tennessee this year. There on a hot streak as of late and are playing at a great level. But lets not forget about what nc has done this year, picked to actually suck all year Tyler Hansborough has changed that whole outlook and made this team a sweet 16 contender. But like I said arkansas is my surprise team...Winner - Arkansas

So in the elite 8 we've got

Duke vs Pittsburgh
winner - Duke

West Virginia vs Texas
winner - West Virginia

UCONN vs Gonzaga
winner - UCONN

Villanova vs Arkansas
winner - Villanova


Final 4 Outlook

Duke vs West Virginia

UCONN vs Villanova

or

Duke vs UCONN

West Virginia vs Villanova

Roman529
03-02-2006, 12:58 AM
Nice job Budd....thanks for giving some love to my Air Force Falcons here in Colorado Springs....they got a sick offense,,,,lotsa 3 pointers...a nicer version of the Princeton offense and former Denver Nuggets coach Jeff Bzdelik. :tongue:

Colorado Buffs might be an NIT team?

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 01:01 AM
Nice job Budd....thanks for giving some love to my Air Force Falcons here in Colorado Springs....they got a sick offense,,,,lotsa 3 pointers...a nicer version of the Princeton offense and former Denver Nuggets coach Jeff Bzdelik. :tongue:


sorry bro havnt seen much outta air force this year...cause they dont play the games here but


Iowa is a tough team to face round 1 for air force...but an upset for a #12 seed taking down the #5 is easily projectable. Dont matter though they'd have to go in and face Georgetown a team superior to them with the inside game of Roy Hilbert

Roman529
03-02-2006, 01:04 AM
Don't the official brackets come out on Sunday? Can't wait.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 01:08 AM
Don't the official brackets come out on Sunday? Can't wait.


They should look very close to what i posted...except i truely believe FSU will be in the tournament after just beating duke

Ferretsquig
03-02-2006, 01:49 AM
If Carolina gets a three seed they make it to the sweet sixteen. They get to play half an hour from Chapel Hill.....

ZolarZ_GoPhins
03-02-2006, 08:57 AM
Nice I like ya getting WVU to the Final Four this year. I can only hope.

Would be nice to see WVU take on Texas again in the Elite Eight. WVU should have won that game earlier in the season but choked on the free throws, where they are normally solid.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 09:59 AM
Nice I like ya getting WVU to the Final Four this year. I can only hope.

Would be nice to see WVU take on Texas again in the Elite Eight. WVU should have won that game earlier in the season but choked on the free throws, where they are normally solid.


Texas imo is the biggest choke team this year...no way they beat wvu in the tournament

nyjunc
03-02-2006, 10:04 AM
That's alot of work- nice job! Of course I don't agree, I think West Virginia will not make it past the 1st weekend. They rely too much on the 3 and they won't sneak up on people this year like they did a year ago.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 10:24 AM
That's alot of work- nice job! Of course I don't agree, I think West Virginia will not make it past the 1st weekend. They rely too much on the 3 and they won't sneak up on people this year like they did a year ago.


pittsnogle and gansey are both experienced players who have had tournament experience. There not a team that relies on sneaking up on people they can play you the full 40 minutes and show you just how good they are ala beating Villanova this year

Philter25
03-02-2006, 10:38 AM
Am I the only one who chuckles when I see "Oral Roberts?"

nyjunc
03-02-2006, 11:42 AM
pittsnogle and gansey are both experienced players who have had tournament experience. There not a team that relies on sneaking up on people they can play you the full 40 minutes and show you just how good they are ala beating Villanova this year

They are not a basketball team, they are a 3 pt shooting contest team. All they do is take 3's. teams were not ready for them and they were hot last year, this year teams will be ready and 1 cold shooting night and they are done.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 04:08 PM
They are not a basketball team, they are a 3 pt shooting contest team. All they do is take 3's. teams were not ready for them and they were hot last year, this year teams will be ready and 1 cold shooting night and they are done.


We'll see i think differently obviously...what do you think of the rest of the tournament

FaninPatsyLand
03-02-2006, 05:30 PM
First off, let me state that it can't be easy to put together a tourney, alot of this has to be subjective, so I'm just stating my opinion here..

..But, how is Cincinnati in over Seton Hall? Please, their SOS is impressive (top 10 if I'm not mistaken) but outside of that, their resume is severely lacking in the quality wins department. Who have they beaten? Syracuse and Marquette?

Unless Cincy goes on a major run in the Big East tournament, there should be no chance they get into the Tournament over Seton Hall. The Hall just beat them on Tuesday by 10 in their only matchup of the season. Sole possession of 7th place in the BE should be enough to get the Hall into the dance, and a win tomorrow night @ the Pete all but solidifies that invitation.

ZolarZ_GoPhins
03-02-2006, 06:32 PM
They are not a basketball team, they are a 3 pt shooting contest team. All they do is take 3's. teams were not ready for them and they were hot last year, this year teams will be ready and 1 cold shooting night and they are done.

You really don't know what the WVU team does.

Number one they protect the basketball. They have an awesome assist to turnover ratio. They rarely turn the ball over, and with the 1-3-1 defense they force alot of turnovers. This is what they rely on since they are a poor rebounding team. The team also doesn't bang the boards for the offensive rebound they get back on defense and stop transition buckets.

On offense they move the ball well, and stretch out the court with the 3. This creates alot of back door opprotunities.

Teams with a dominate big man are the hardest for WVU to beat.
Shooting the 3 is a big part of their game but to sum it all up in that only isn't smart. Teams last year were not ready for the 1-3-1 and their offensive style : That is the real issue.

nyjunc
03-02-2006, 07:40 PM
On offense they move the ball well, and stretch out the court with the 3. This creates alot of back door opprotunities.


Their offense is hideous to watch, all thye do is shoot 3's, it's not basketball and no team that relies that much on the 3 will ever win it all.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Their offense is hideous to watch, all thye do is shoot 3's, it's not basketball and no team that relies that much on the 3 will ever win it all.

So your saying duke and villanova are both horrible teams...cause guess what buddy both teams take more 3 pointers every game.

Ferretsquig
03-02-2006, 10:19 PM
So your saying duke and villanova are both horrible teams...cause guess what buddy both teams take more 3 pointers every game.

huh? Its not even close. West Virginia has shot 819 3 pointers in 28 games while Duke put up 556 in 29 games. Duke just looks good doing it, since they actually make the shots. Also Duke has a post game, unlike certain teams that pretend to run the princeton offense.

FaninPatsyLand
03-02-2006, 10:21 PM
You really don't know what the WVU team does.

Number one they protect the basketball. They have an awesome assist to turnover ratio. They rarely turn the ball over, and with the 1-3-1 defense they force alot of turnovers. This is what they rely on since they are a poor rebounding team. The team also doesn't bang the boards for the offensive rebound they get back on defense and stop transition buckets.

On offense they move the ball well, and stretch out the court with the 3. This creates alot of back door opprotunities.

Teams with a dominate big man are the hardest for WVU to beat.
Shooting the 3 is a big part of their game but to sum it all up in that only isn't smart. Teams last year were not ready for the 1-3-1 and their offensive style : That is the real issue.

WVU is a good basketball team.. but they are ridiculously overhyped. If they run into any team in the tournament that has a big man and plays decent perimeter defense, they're screwed.

Pittsnogle and Gansey are great players, but they've got ZERO inside game along with the rest of the team. The inside game, or lack thereof, will be their downfall.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 10:23 PM
huh? Its not even close. West Virginia has shot 819 3 pointers in 28 games while Duke put up 556 in 29 games. Duke just looks good doing it, since they actually make the shots. Also Duke has a post game, unlike certain teams that pretend to run the princeton offense.


Not all the time bro I was at the temple game and i watched redick go like 4-14 or some crap like that. He was throwing up air balls left to right

I've actually seen a couple times this year where redick is just horrible, the one game he was like 6-28 on 3 pointers Thats way too many shots for one game, let alone 3 pointers

nyjunc
03-02-2006, 10:24 PM
So your saying duke and villanova are both horrible teams...cause guess what buddy both teams take more 3 pointers every game.

I didn't say WVU was a horrible team I said they were horrible to watch and WVU takes ALOT more 3's than duke or 'Nova.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 10:30 PM
I didn't say WVU was a horrible team I said they were horrible to watch and WVU takes ALOT more 3's than duke or 'Nova.


I dont find them horrible to watch....thats your opinion bro

nyjunc
03-02-2006, 10:32 PM
I dont find them horrible to watch....thats your opinion bro

It's almost painful to watch, it's just not basketball to me and it's a major reason why they have no shot to win it all. Teams that rely too much on the 3 never win it b/c one cold half could sink them and send them home.

Buddwalk
03-02-2006, 11:03 PM
It's almost painful to watch, it's just not basketball to me and it's a major reason why they have no shot to win it all. Teams that rely too much on the 3 never win it b/c one cold half could sink them and send them home.


Hey man you live and die by the 3...everyone knows that

Ferretsquig
03-03-2006, 12:17 AM
Not all the time bro I was at the temple game and i watched redick go like 4-14 or some crap like that. He was throwing up air balls left to right

I've actually seen a couple times this year where redick is just horrible, the one game he was like 6-28 on 3 pointers Thats way too many shots for one game, let alone 3 pointers

Dont disagree....I would never pick Duke to win it all. They have no depth and rely far too much on one player. If Redick goes cold they will get beat by most anyone in the tourney.

Buddwalk
03-03-2006, 12:20 AM
Dont disagree....I would never pick Duke to win it all. They have no depth and rely far too much on one player. If Redick goes cold they will get beat by most anyone in the tourney.


I disagree i feel there the 2nd deepest team outside of uconn

Shelden Williams has the ability to put up 20+ everynight

if redick gets in a cold streak it can kill them but they have the ability with there inside game to come right back.

Ferretsquig
03-03-2006, 01:47 AM
I disagree i feel there the 2nd deepest team outside of uconn

Shelden Williams has the ability to put up 20+ everynight

if redick gets in a cold streak it can kill them but they have the ability with there inside game to come right back.

Duke is a 7 man team. The only bench they have is Nelson and Melchioni. Noone else gets in the game except for garbage and foul trouble time. And the trouble with Redick is that even when he gets cold they keep going to him. Why Sheldon isnt given 15+ shot attempts a game I have no idea. Hes going to score most of the time he puts up a shot. On offense its Redick's team, everyone else is just a sideshow.

ZolarZ_GoPhins
03-03-2006, 07:45 AM
I for one like to watch the different types of offenses in college basketball. How teams spread the floor and actually pass the ball and get assists. If the only thing that excites you about college BB is getting the ball down to the big men and letting them dunk, or seeing the guards cut to the hoop and dunk it, then watch the NBA.

WVU is overhyped because of what they did last year in the Tournament. They have a very good winning percentage on teams they face for the first time. They are dangerous and well coached and a stylish pick right now.

I find teams like this exciting to watch and when that 3-point shot his the bottom of the net is it sweet. The hustle on defense is exciting as well. In the case of WVU the rebounding is frustrating but ya can't have it all I guess.

nyjunc
03-03-2006, 10:21 AM
Dont disagree....I would never pick Duke to win it all. They have no depth and rely far too much on one player. If Redick goes cold they will get beat by most anyone in the tourney.

If Redick plays the way he has in his 3 other NCAA Tourney's then duke has no shot. He's not a clutch player and he always wears down late in the year which it appears has begun a little earlier than usual this year.


I for one like to watch the different types of offenses in college basketball. How teams spread the floor and actually pass the ball and get assists. If the only thing that excites you about college BB is getting the ball down to the big men and letting them dunk, or seeing the guards cut to the hoop and dunk it, then watch the NBA.


I like different styles as well but I don't like wacthing teams just pass the ball around the arc and take 3's. That's not basketball to me. I am a 3 pt shooter and I love the 3 just not in excess and 30 3's a night is way too much.

PeaTearGriffin
03-03-2006, 11:46 AM
how far do you guys think the buckeyes can go? they also are a big 3pt shooting team but they also have dials inside

nyjunc
03-03-2006, 12:08 PM
how far do you guys think the buckeyes can go? they also are a big 3pt shooting team but they also have dials inside

I think Sweet 16 is very reasonable to expect but anything beyond that will be tough. The Big 10 is not very strong this year(despite the ludicrous #1 ranking in the RPI) and they had no good non-conf wins. I love what they have done but I can't see them beyond the Sweet 16.

NCDolphinfan
03-03-2006, 01:21 PM
Tarheels Repeat! Woooot

And as far as Duke, look how many games they won by between 6 to 1 points. Duke isn't as dominate as their record shows!

Buddwalk
03-03-2006, 04:26 PM
If Redick plays the way he has in his 3 other NCAA Tourney's then duke has no shot. He's not a clutch player and he always wears down late in the year which it appears has begun a little earlier than usual this year.



I like different styles as well but I don't like wacthing teams just pass the ball around the arc and take 3's. That's not basketball to me. I am a 3 pt shooter and I love the 3 just not in excess and 30 3's a night is way too much.


redicks never been this dominant in a season either...so if he wears down it remains to be seen

nyjunc
03-03-2006, 06:33 PM
redicks never been this dominant in a season either...so if he wears down it remains to be seen

He's already begun to wear down, he's been horrible his last 3 games.

Buddwalk
03-03-2006, 06:35 PM
He's already begun to wear down, he's been horrible his last 3 games.


30 points his last game is horrible :confused:


Only game hes been horrible is temple bro

FaninPatsyLand
03-03-2006, 06:36 PM
Better update that bracket.. Syracuse is safely out of it (or SHOULD be) after getting hammered by DePaul last night. I still can't believe the Orange lost by 39 points...

I'm a Hall fan.. and in my estimation (homerism aside), we should be ahead of both Cincy and Syracuse (we are all alone in 7th place in the BE). Not only did we beat both of them in head-to-head matchups, we also have more quality wins than either team. Of course with their name recognition, I don't think people will see it that way. I have a feeling that we could get screwed out of the NCAA's.

If we win tonight at Pittsburgh, it essentially makes it impossible for the committee to leave us out.

nyjunc
03-03-2006, 06:55 PM
30 points his last game is horrible :confused:


Only game hes been horrible is temple bro

He took 28 shots! Yes his game was horrible.

Buddwalk
03-03-2006, 07:02 PM
He took 28 shots! Yes his game was horrible.


30 points is still 30 points...sorry buddy horrible shooting night from a stat outlook 30 points is still 30 points

nyjunc
03-04-2006, 08:29 AM
30 points is still 30 points...sorry buddy horrible shooting night from a stat outlook 30 points is still 30 points

He really had 28 pts on 28 shots, the tech they gave the crowd gave JJ 2 more points. Any way you slice it he was horrible the other night. When you shoot 10 for 28(4 of 14 from 3) that is a horrible night and that's his 3rd poor game in a row.

Buddwalk
03-04-2006, 02:47 PM
He really had 28 pts on 28 shots, the tech they gave the crowd gave JJ 2 more points. Any way you slice it he was horrible the other night. When you shoot 10 for 28(4 of 14 from 3) that is a horrible night and that's his 3rd poor game in a row.


Hey dont worry in no way shape or form will I ever defend the guy...Im a morrison fan over the two