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ronrevog
03-02-2006, 03:33 AM
in 1983 Dan Marino scored a 16 or a 14 i've heard both - that didn't keep him out of the Hall of Fame. The average score for NFL quarterbacks is 24, and cognitive showoffs like Brian Griese and Eli Manning got 39s. (Fifty is perfect, by the way, since there are only 50 questions.)

My happiest day as Dolphin fan since Marino got us in the Super Bowl would be if someway somehow the Dolphins end up with this Kid. I think he's got all the tools and I see the Kid runnin on a 7 year streak were he jsut has an amazing career...

We'll see...

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 03:45 AM
in 1983 Dan Marino scored a 16 or a 14 i've heard both - that didn't keep him out of the Hall of Fame. The average score for NFL quarterbacks is 24, and cognitive showoffs like Brian Griese and Eli Manning got 39s. (Fifty is perfect, by the way, since there are only 50 questions.)

My happiest day as Dolphin fan since Marino got us in the Super Bowl would be if someway somehow the Dolphins end up with this Kid. I think he's got all the tools and I see the Kid runnin on a 7 year streak were he jsut has an amazing career...

We'll see...


He does have all the tools I will not deny that. However he is not ready for the NFL yet. He needs to be sit down around 2 years and have someone show him that him running is not the answer. He needs to become more polished as a passer. I think Vince Young can be a good QB only if he drops to a good team that can afford to sit him. If he gets drafted to early ppl will expect the world out of him and he will not be able to give it to them. He is a project. There are alot of qB's in this draft that are more qualifed to play right away in the NFL however very few have the tools that Young has. I hope that in the Draft this guy falls to someone who can coach him and really teach him how to QB in the NFL without throwing him into the wolves right away.

TAK
03-02-2006, 03:58 AM
He seems to be the next McNair from everything I have seen.

finfan54
03-02-2006, 08:55 AM
Hes got way more athleticism than MCnair. Mcnair has a more solid frame. Young is long and lean with stop and go moves.

primetime23
03-02-2006, 09:27 AM
young got a 6 because the number 6 team in the draft was going to pick him then they changed there mind. So he did the test again and got a 16 now the number 16 team with the pick will get him lol

Rixon
03-02-2006, 09:37 AM
He does have all the tools I will not deny that. However he is not ready for the NFL yet. He needs to be sit down around 2 years and have someone show him that him running is not the answer. He needs to become more polished as a passer. I think Vince Young can be a good QB only if he drops to a good team that can afford to sit him. If he gets drafted to early ppl will expect the world out of him and he will not be able to give it to them. He is a project. There are alot of qB's in this draft that are more qualifed to play right away in the NFL however very few have the tools that Young has. I hope that in the Draft this guy falls to someone who can coach him and really teach him how to QB in the NFL without throwing him into the wolves right away.

yeah Young is probably not ready to start from day one. But then again most QBs that are drafted arent ready to start and all are somewhat of a project. Im not worried about that IQ test he took too much. He has the tools and thats the most important thing.
I would love for Young to fall in our laps but that is probably never going to happen. hell be gone by the time we pick.

Philter25
03-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Phishstix
03-02-2006, 11:30 AM
vince young is boom or bust personified, but he has the highest ceiling of anybody in this draft imo. if he is there at #16, f*** the wonderlic, ya gotta take him, but it won't come to that- if he drops, somebody before us will take him.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-02-2006, 11:32 AM
let him keep dropping.

Motion
03-02-2006, 11:35 AM
let him keep dropping.

Yeah right past us please.

Phishstix
03-02-2006, 11:45 AM
Yeah right past us please.

would you really be that upset if we drafted young? he might be a dumbarse, but you can't deny his talent and potential.

Philter25
03-02-2006, 11:59 AM
I would be extremely upset. Vince Young is AT LEAST 2-3 years out before he does anything in the NFL.

With the holes we have and the need we have in the secondary, CB and S, OT, OLB, and an aging Dline, using our first round pick on a definate project would drive me nuts.

I think Cutler is more ready to start in our offense than Young is...... I dont want to elaborate on this and turn this into your standard Young vs. Cutler comparison thread.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-02-2006, 12:07 PM
would you really be that upset if we drafted young? he might be a dumbarse, but you can't deny his talent and potential.
i've seen nothing that would indicate he can be a good player on the next level at quarterback, so i wouldn't want him.

Phishstix
03-02-2006, 12:10 PM
I don't want to elaborate on this and turn this into your standard Young vs. Cutler comparison thread.

i don't either, i was just asking. we do have needs on defense that need to be addressed, but i myself wouldn't be dissapointed if we ended up w/ young.

Motion
03-02-2006, 12:14 PM
would you really be that upset if we drafted young? he might be a dumbarse, but you can't deny his talent and potential.

Yes, i would. I want absolutely nothing to do with him. He has shown me nothing that makes me think he can be a top notch QB at the next level.

ronrevog
03-02-2006, 01:15 PM
Yes, i would. I want absolutely nothing to do with him. He has shown me nothing that makes me think he can be a top notch QB at the next level.

Vince Young hasnt shown you anything? Then you have been living with eyes closed, as a sophmore the kid upstaged Cedric Benson and LB Johnson as the best player on that team and Benson went 4th in the draft... Young singedhandedly took down Michigan...

now lets travel a year after that, espn is pitting all the greatest teams in college football history against USC ion their "professional" sim opinions no one could beat USC...

but a season later they were down by 12 in the 4th to that said USC team, in comes Young, down by a score 4th and Goal, in scores Young, a man possesed.

Young wins the best college football game since UM and BC and Young hasnt shown you anything? Young was 13-13 against USC to start the game, he hasnt shown you anything? Carolina Panthers were using Young as inspiration on the sidelines against Seattle, of youre never out of the game, and he hasnt shown you anything? Rushed for over 200 yds and Passed for Over 250 and hasnt shown you anything?

Ive read your posts you are no doubt a smart guy, but you are biased, and have already made up your mind on nothing tangible...

what has Cutler shown you that sets him apart from every other hyped noob coming out of college...

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-02-2006, 01:20 PM
young is a great college QB. nothing about his success translates to the NFL.

Motion
03-02-2006, 01:24 PM
Vince Young hasnt shown you anything? Then you have been living with eyes closed, as a sophmore the kid upstaged Cedric Benson and LB Johnson as the best player on that team and Benson went 4th in the draft... Young singedhandedly took down Michigan...

now lets travel a year after that, espn is pitting all the greatest teams in college football history against USC ion their "professional" sim opinions no one could beat USC...

but a season later they were down by 12 in the 4th to that said USC team, in comes Young, down by a score 4th and Goal, in scores Young, a man possesed.

Young wins the best college football game since UM and BC and Young hasnt shown you anything? Young was 13-13 against USC to start the game, he hasnt shown you anything? Carolina Panthers were using Young as inspiration on the sidelines against Seattle, of youre never out of the game, and he hasnt shown you anything? Rushed for over 200 yds and Passed for Over 250 and hasnt shown you anything?

Ive read your posts you are no doubt a smart guy, but you are biased, and have already made up your mind on nothing tangible...

what has Cutler shown you that sets him apart from every other hyped noob coming out of college...

You've taken what i said way outta context. I've never contended his college career, he was very impressive. But if you think he's gonna be able to run around like that in the NFL than there are gonna be plenty of people "living with their eyes closed" cause their not gonna wanna see their franchise Qb get the snot knocked out of him. I'm biased, yes against QBs that run around like their playing on a playground and not executing the offensive system like its meant to be. Call it spoiled by Dan, call it whatever you want but I prefer a pocket passer and I'm entitled to that opinion just as anyone here is to theirs'. Give it up, there is no convincing me that he will be a solid NFL QB until if/when he does it, period.

ronrevog
03-02-2006, 01:33 PM
I can respect your opinion, and hopefully if we get a chance at him we will take him, because as a pure passer, I also think Young has the tools.. I think he grades much better than alex smith did last year, throws harder and more accurate than leinart, is better overall than Mike Vick can ever be bacause Mike Vick has serious height issues for an NFL QB (algae crumpler is the only guy on the field he can see)

I think hes got more promise as a rookie than Kyle Orton did who was ready to start, more guts than Daunte, and more talent than Donovan, I just hope he has fun playing the game, because if he gets into a groove the sky's the limit for this guy.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-02-2006, 01:37 PM
i wasn't impressed with alex smith at all last year. and young has absolutely nothing on leinart in accuracy. arm strength isn't much better either.

Motion
03-02-2006, 01:48 PM
I can respect your opinion, and hopefully if we get a chance at him we will take him, because as a pure passer, I also think Young has the tools.. I think he grades much better than alex smith did last year, throws harder and more accurate than leinart, is better overall than Mike Vick can ever be bacause Mike Vick has serious height issues for an NFL QB (algae crumpler is the only guy on the field he can see)

I think hes got more promise as a rookie than Kyle Orton did who was ready to start, more guts than Daunte, and more talent than Donovan, I just hope he has fun playing the game, because if he gets into a groove the sky's the limit for this guy.

Wow, some really bad comparisons there man. Alex Smith was the beneficiary of an extremely weak QB class. Kyle Orton? Well, I don't think I need to even say anything there. He protected the ball nothing more, no offense at all.

And I agree with Juan, Young doesn't even come close to Leinart's accuracy and touch on the ball. And I'm not much of a Leinart fan either.