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utahphinsfan
03-02-2006, 07:03 PM
I know Miami has picks in the 1st 3 rounds. After that it gets fuzzy for me. I believe all that remain are a 6th and three in the 7th; correct?

Anyway, Here is a possible scenario.

1) OT McNeill Auburn or Justice USC
2) Cedric Griffin CB Texas
3) Reggie McNeal QB Texas A & M

Flyer22
03-02-2006, 07:05 PM
We don't have a 6th, only three 7ths

mia4ever
03-02-2006, 07:48 PM
4th?

Let me help you out
4th round Devin Hester

you likee b/c I have more

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 07:50 PM
4th?

Let me help you out
4th round Devin Hester

you likee b/c I have more


Much rather have Hester than Jeremy Bloom

SF Dolphin Fan
03-02-2006, 08:05 PM
Love the first two. Miami really needs a LT and McNeil has a ton of talent. The Dolphins may feel like Alabi is their guy, but that seems like a reach. Griffin is one of my favorites and would seem like a perfect fit. McNeal is athletic, but just too inconsistent for my liking. He does remind me a bit of Aaron Brooks, though, and Mueller drafted Brooks.

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 08:08 PM
Love the first two. Miami really needs a LT and McNeil has a ton of talent. The Dolphins may feel like Alabi is their guy, but that seems like a reach. Griffin is one of my favorites and would seem like a perfect fit. McNeal is athletic, but just too inconsistent for my liking. He does remind me a bit of Aaron Brooks, though, and Mueller drafted Brooks.


Justice is a much better LT prospect IMO. McNeal not a good pick in the 3rd.

I would go
1st. Winston Justice
2nd. Jonathan Joseph or Abdoul Hodge
3rd. Omar Jacobs

mia4ever
03-02-2006, 08:14 PM
1st Winston Justice
2nd DeMario Minter, Cornerback, Georgia
3rd Pat Watkins, Saftey, Florida State
4th Jason Avant, Wide reciever, michgan

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 08:21 PM
1st Winston Justice
2nd DeMario Minter, Cornerback, Georgia
3rd Pat Watkins, Saftey, Florida State
4th Jason Avant, Wide reciever, Giants


Giants?

WelcomeBack
03-02-2006, 08:21 PM
1. Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, N.C. State
2. Jason Allen, S, Tennessee
3. Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green
4. Darrell Hunter, CB, Miami (Oh.)

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 08:22 PM
1. Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, N.C. State
2. Jason Allen, S, Tennessee
3. Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green
4. Darrell Hunter, CB, Miami (Oh.)


That looks really good except I don't know that much about Darrel Hunter

SR 7
03-02-2006, 10:39 PM
That looks really good except I don't know that much about Darrel Hunter
love it honestly.

btw. i heard allen is quick but how is his hitting and tackling/coverage? wans't he a CB as well then tore his something?

Skeet84
03-02-2006, 10:41 PM
love it honestly.

btw. i heard allen is quick but how is his hitting and tackling/coverage? wans't he a CB as well then tore his something?


Jason Allen was a CB, But they moved him to saftey cause lack of players nothing to do with him. Leader of TN Defense!

Dolfan11
03-03-2006, 12:46 AM
Round 1 - Winston Justice or Jonathon Scott or Marcus McNeil (anyone of them in that order)
Round 2 - Jason Allen or Bobby Carpenter or Cedric Griffin (anyone of them in that order)
Round 3 - Omar Jacobs
Round 4 - Devin Hestner

FA signing or late round pick - Marcus Maxey

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 12:54 AM
Round 1 - Winston Justice or Jonathon Scott or Marcus McNeil (anyone of them in that order)
Round 2 - Jason Allen or Bobby Carpenter or Cedric Griffin (anyone of them in that order)
Round 3 - Omar Jacobs
Round 4 - Devin Hestner

FA signing or late round pick - Marcus Maxey


I am not super thrilled with the Devin Hester pick, But he could be a good WR or a Good Back-up CB with alot of speed!
Omar Jacobs is a Good pick in the 3rd.
I would only add Jonathan Joseph, Abdoul Hodge, and Davin Joseph to your second round possibilities.

SR 7
03-03-2006, 01:00 AM
I am not super thrilled with the Devin Hester pick, But he could be a good WR or a Good Back-up CB with alot of speed!
Omar Jacobs is a Good pick in the 3rd.
I would only add Jonathan Joseph, Abdoul Hodge, and Davin Joseph to your second round possibilities.

is J joseph the CB from SC? and is d joseph the guard from the hoosiers i believe?

btw whats the big deal with this maxey guy everyone has? any info on him

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 01:04 AM
is J joseph the CB from SC? and is d joseph the guard from the hoosiers i believe?

btw whats the big deal with this maxey guy everyone has? any info on him


Jonatan Joseph South Carolina

Strengths: A fast-rising prospect with explosive speed. Is a fluid athlete with very good initial quickness and COD skills. He shows the ability to turn-and-run without losing much in transition. Is quick out of his pedal and shows good closing burst. Is able to make up a lot of ground when the ball is in the air. He shows good leaping ability and will challenge for the ball in traffic. Possesses natural playmaking instincts and very good ball skills. Is aggressive in run support. Willing and fills hard. Shows adequate strength and is an efficient tackler in space. Has some experience as a return specialist and showed some promise in that area  both as a PR and KOR.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal playing experience. Only played one full season at DI-A level. Shows inconsistent technique. Comes out of his pedal too high at times and will get off balance in those instances. Has a tendency to gamble and jump routes prematurely. Looks less comfortable in zone coverage and must improve his overall awareness in that facet. Durability is a concern following broken foot in 2004.

Overall: Joseph earned All-Conference honors as a defensive back at Coffeyville Junior College in 2003. He transferred to South Carolina prior to the 2004 season and earned a starting cornerback position for the first two games before he suffered a season-ending broken foot in the first quarter of the Georgia game. Joseph returned as a fulltime starter in 2005 and finished the season with 55 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, four interceptions and nine broken up passes in 12 games. He also averaged 23.5 yards on six kickoff returns and returned one punt for two yards in 2005. Joseph showed an awful lot of intriguing qualities in his one full season as a starter at the DI-A collegiate level. He has adequate size, excellent speed and natural playmaking instincts and ball skills. Joseph also supports the run hard and is a solid tackler, which should lend to him contributing on special teams right away in the NFL. However, the uncertainty generated by lack of experience and durability issues makes Joseph a dangerous proposition. From what we've seen of him in comparatively limited viewing, Joseph possesses the potential to develop into a difference maker as a fulltime starting cornerback in the NFL. That's why we grade Joseph out as a second round prospect.


Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma


Strengths: Well-built, sturdy and powerful OL prospect. Probably will best fit at the OG position in the NFL, but has experience at OT. Possesses adequate height and bulk at OG. Lacks a massive frame but has a wide body and long arms for his height. He plays with great leverage and body control. He shows very good initial quickness for his size and he also is fluid in space. Can get out quickly on pulls and traps. Moves well in space and will consistently be able to hit the moving target on the second level as a run blocker. He jars defenders with his initial hand punch. Rarely loses a battle once he has locked on. Is a tough and feisty lineman that plays with a mean streak. Fights to finish and will look to bury defenders when given the opportunity. Shows a quick set in pass pro. A natural knee bender. Can mirror and slide smoothly. Has very good lateral movement and quickness in pass pro. A hard worker and team leader.

Weaknesses: Is a bit of an OG/OT 'tweener. He lacks ideal height, which may prevent him from playing on the perimeter in the NFL. He still can improve his footwork and hand-placement in pass pro. Will occasionally recognize stunts and blitzes too late.

Overall: Joseph moved from the defensive line to offensive guard as a true freshman in 2002 and has been a fulltime starter since. As a sophomore in 2003, he started 12 of the 14 games he played. As a junior in 2004, he started every game at right guard and earned second-team All-Big 12 honors. He made the move to left tackle as a senior in 2005 and has been a fulltime starter thus far. Joseph has been the Sooners' most dominant offensive lineman over the course of the last two seasons, including his junior season when playing on the same offensive line as Jammal Brown (Saints), who was drafted by the Saints with the 13th overall pick in 2004. Joseph has made a smooth transition to the left tackle position as a senior in 2005 but he will be a far better fit at guard in the NFL, mostly due to his lack of ideal height. Joseph can still improve his technique, but he is a hard-working and coachable player who should continue to improve if coached well at the next level. Otherwise, Joseph has very few flaws. He is a wide-bodied, long-armed, strong, athletic and nasty guard prospect. Joseph should quickly develop into a good starter in the NFL, which is why he is worth considering late in the first round or early in the second round of the 2006 NFL draft.

SR 7
03-03-2006, 01:06 AM
k jsut confused teh 2. yea JJ from SC was said by kiper that if he ran a good time at the combine he would have a shot at being a top 10 as he is a very darn fast guy. anyonw konw what he ran?

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 01:07 AM
is J joseph the CB from SC? and is d joseph the guard from the hoosiers i believe?

btw whats the big deal with this maxey guy everyone has? any info on him


Marcus Maxey CB says runs a 4.5 no school listed



Strengths: Is a big defensive back with good athletic ability and adequate speed for his size. Has long arms. Shows improved ball skills and challenges receivers for the ball in the air. He can match up on the perimeter with bigger receivers in the red zone. He has good quickness and initial burst for his size. Does a good job of fighting off of blocks and is an efficient open-field tackler. Also has great experience playing special teams in college and shows the potential to contribute in multiple facets in the NFL.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal playing experience. Spent majority of time at DC position in college but might fit better at FS in NFL. Lacks ideal top-end speed to match up versus elite speed receivers in the NFL. Must improve instincts and awareness in zone coverage. Better athlete than football player at this point. He is a solid tackler and productive special teams player, but he does not fill as hard as he should in run support. Not as physical as his size would indicate.

Overall: Maxey redshirted in 2001 and played primarily on special teams in 2002. He played a versatile role as a DS and DC in all 13 games as a sophomore in 2003, while also contributing on special teams. Maxey started four of the 12 games he played as a nickel DC during his junior season in 2004, when he finished with 21 tackles and three passes broken up. Maxey played in all 12 games as a senior in 2005, when he beat out Devin Hester for the starting DC job opposite Kelly Jennings and finished with 27 tackles, three TFL, two interceptions and three PBU. Maxey lacks ideal playing experience and possesses just adequate top-end speed. He is a tweener DC/DS that may wind up being a better fit at the safety position in the NFL, but only if his awareness in coverage and aggressiveness in run support improve. Regardless, Maxey has made significant strides as a big, athletic and versatile defensive back over the course of the last three seasons. Maxey will be a developmental project early in his NFL career but he has great experience as a special teams and will at least be able to earn his keep in that area while finding a niche and polishing his skills on defense. In our opinion, Maxey is worth the gamble as a fourth or fifth round pick in 2006.

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 01:12 AM
k jsut confused teh 2. yea JJ from SC was said by kiper that if he ran a good time at the combine he would have a shot at being a top 10 as he is a very darn fast guy. anyonw konw what he ran?



Jonathan Joseph ran a 4.31!!! I have been saying this guy might have been the fastest guy at the combine for awihle. He was almost the fastest.

Alex44
03-03-2006, 01:14 AM
Much rather have Hester than Jeremy Bloom

Wow why?

Devin Hester couldnt even scratch the starting lineup as a WR or corner at UM he has no shot in the NFL, he will probally just be a return guy

Bloom has a shot at being a pretty good WR, he is small but he is lightning quick, and has very good hands

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 01:23 AM
Wow why?

Devin Hester couldnt even scratch the starting lineup as a WR or corner at UM he has no shot in the NFL, he will probally just be a return guy

Bloom has a shot at being a pretty good WR, he is small but he is lightning quick, and has very good hands


Well he did not start at CB you are right. However he was still a nIckel back and is really fast and could be a great gunner on special teams.
They never really tried him out at WR until the Bowl game and he looked like a good WR, But he had only been practicing there for a couple of weeks. Plus he could return kicks and is very very good at that.
Jeremy bloom has nothing to contribute to the dolphins other than a WR and return man. Wes Welker is our return man and Jeremy Bloom is too small to play Special Teams as anything other than a return man.

Alex44
03-03-2006, 01:34 AM
Well he did not start at CB you are right. However he was still a nIckel back and is really fast and could be a great gunner on special teams.
They never really tried him out at WR until the Bowl game and he looked like a good WR, But he had only been practicing there for a couple of weeks. Plus he could return kicks and is very very good at that.
Jeremy bloom has nothing to contribute to the dolphins other than a WR and return man. Wes Welker is our return man and Jeremy Bloom is too small to play Special Teams as anything other than a return man.

Hester has a lot of talent but I dont think he's gonna be able to put it to use, he doesnt even know what position he wants to play

A good nickle corner in college doesnt translate to a nickle corner in the NFL, He looked pretty good at reciever but it was mostly screen passes and you cant do that every play.

Jeremy Bloom is a better returner than Hester I think, thats just my opinion though, Bloom is the second coming of Steve Smith, and Hester may be a good #3 corner and special teams guy, but Ill take a steve smith type guy any day over that

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 01:44 AM
Hester has a lot of talent but I dont think he's gonna be able to put it to use, he doesnt even know what position he wants to play

A good nickle corner in college doesnt translate to a nickle corner in the NFL, He looked pretty good at reciever but it was mostly screen passes and you cant do that every play.

Jeremy Bloom is a better returner than Hester I think, thats just my opinion though, Bloom is the second coming of Steve Smith, and Hester may be a good #3 corner and special teams guy, but Ill take a steve smith type guy any day over that


Thats a huge reach saying a Steve Smith type guy. Better returner than Hester IMO No WAY!!! Hester has alot better upside than Bloom.

Alex44
03-03-2006, 01:51 AM
Thats a huge reach saying a Steve Smith type guy. Better returner than Hester IMO No WAY!!! Hester has alot better upside than Bloom.


Its kind of Hard to Compare since Hester will be a corner and Bloom will be a reciever

When Bloom is in shape for running and such, which he wasnt at the combine since he was training for Skiing he can run in the 4.2 range, which is faster than hester

Bloom also has far better hands than Hester does, I also dont like Hesters attitude, he couldnt even scratch the lineup at UM in 3 years, but he seems to think he is an NFL superstar for some reason, Bloom is a workaholic, I really dont know about hesters work ethic.

Only thing Bloom doesnt have is height, but he will make the most of what he does have

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 02:02 AM
Its kind of Hard to Compare since Hester will be a corner and Bloom will be a reciever

When Bloom is in shape for running and such, which he wasnt at the combine since he was training for Skiing he can run in the 4.2 range, which is faster than hester

Bloom also has far better hands than Hester does, I also dont like Hesters attitude, he couldnt even scratch the lineup at UM in 3 years, but he seems to think he is an NFL superstar for some reason, Bloom is a workaholic, I really dont know about hesters work ethic.

Only thing Bloom doesnt have is height, but he will make the most of what he does have


Well We will have to wait and see however I think Hester has alot more talent than Bloom. Hester was the starting CB for a long time at Miami so I don't what this 3 yrs stuff is. He could be a really good WR .

Alex44
03-03-2006, 02:09 AM
Well We will have to wait and see however I think Hester has alot more talent than Bloom. Hester was the starting CB for a long time at Miami so I don't what this 3 yrs stuff is. He could be a really good WR .

Hester played his whole career behind Antrell Rolle and ummm that other corner.... his name isnt hitting me right now

He got some playing time sprinkled in but was never a full time starter to my knowlege

Anyway only time will tell

utahphinsfan
03-03-2006, 02:10 AM
J Joseph is the CB from S Carolina. Appearantly, his stock is rising fast.

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 02:21 AM
Hester played his whole career behind Antrell Rolle and ummm that other corner.... his name isnt hitting me right now

He got some playing time sprinkled in but was never a full time starter to my knowlege

Anyway only time will tell

He was a Full time starter for awhile.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-03-2006, 02:25 AM
Wow why?

Devin Hester couldnt even scratch the starting lineup as a WR or corner at UM he has no shot in the NFL, he will probally just be a return guy

Bloom has a shot at being a pretty good WR, he is small but he is lightning quick, and has very good hands
what's with your fascination with bloom? aren't you the same kind of player for your high school team? i can see why you like him.

hester was never used properly at miami. he could've been a reggie bush-type player, but larry coker wouldn't try him out at RB except on a play here and there. on defense he was limited to nickel roles, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as beating out kelly jennings and marcus maxey isn't easy when you're not getting the playing time at CB you should be getting.

whenever he was in on offense, the defense knew he was getting the ball. it was a horrible way to use him. and he's a MUCH better returnman than bloom.

Alex44
03-03-2006, 02:28 AM
what's with your fascination with bloom? aren't you the same kind of player for your high school team? i can see why you like him.

hester was never used properly at miami. he could've been a reggie bush-type player, but larry coker wouldn't try him out at RB except on a play here and there. on defense he was limited to nickel roles, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as beating out kelly jennings and marcus maxey isn't easy when you're not getting the playing time at CB you should be getting.

whenever he was in on offense, the defense knew he was getting the ball. it was a horrible way to use him. and he's a MUCH better returnman than bloom.

I agree he wasnt used correctly

But I dont think he is a better return man, Bloom hasnt played in two years so people tend to forget hw explosive he actually was, as I said only time will tell

Funny thing is im taller than Bloom lol I wish i was that fast

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 03:11 AM
what's with your fascination with bloom? aren't you the same kind of player for your high school team? i can see why you like him.

hester was never used properly at miami. he could've been a reggie bush-type player, but larry coker wouldn't try him out at RB except on a play here and there. on defense he was limited to nickel roles, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as beating out kelly jennings and marcus maxey isn't easy when you're not getting the playing time at CB you should be getting.

whenever he was in on offense, the defense knew he was getting the ball. it was a horrible way to use him. and he's a MUCH better returnman than bloom.

I agree all the way and your so right about Hester being a way better return man than Bloom. Yeah I still can remember. He was good, But Hester is great he has experience on Defense and Offense and could be a real factor on either side of the ball with the right coaching. Bloom is nothing, more than a return man

Danny
03-03-2006, 03:25 AM
Here's my mock,
1-Rob Carpenter-olb
2-Richard Marshall-db
3-Daryn Colledge-ot
4-Brandon Marshall-wr

Ozzy rules!!

FinNasty
03-03-2006, 03:39 AM
Here's my mock,
1-Rob Carpenter-olb
2-Richard Marshall-db
3-Daryn Colledge-ot
4-Brandon Marshall-wr

Ozzy rules!!

I like the Brandon Marshall pick...

Here is mine:
1 - Greenway (I dont care what his combine numbers were...)
2 - Jason Allen - CB - Tennessee
3 - Omar Jacobs
4 - Brandon Marshall :cooldude:

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 03:57 AM
I like the Brandon Marshall pick...

Here is mine:
1 - Greenway (I dont care what his combine numbers were...)
2 - Jason Allen - CB - Tennessee
3 - Omar Jacobs
4 - Brandon Marshall :cooldude:

I don't want Chad Greenway. I would much rather have Cromartie or Justice or Lawson. But I can't argue with the rest of your picks! :D

FinNasty
03-03-2006, 04:00 AM
I don't want Chad Greenway. I would much rather have Cromartie or Justice or Lawson. But I can't argue with the rest of your picks! :D
Greenway is a stud. Trust me, his combine numbers dont tell the whole story... as cliche as it sounds... he plays faster than shown on a stop watch... And I think 16 is too high for Cromartie... and I just dont like Justice...

However, I definatly wouldnt mind Lawson... :D

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 04:02 AM
Greenway is a stud. Trust me, his combine numbers dont tell the whole story... as cliche as it sounds... he plays faster than shown on a stop watch...

However, I definatly wouldnt mind Lawson either... :D


When I saw I don't want him I am not saying cause of his combine numbers. I really think you can only take combine numbers so far. I am talking from whatching him and he did not impress me at all. However Abdoul Hodge did very much sooo!

FinNasty
03-03-2006, 04:05 AM
When I saw I don't want him I am not saying cause of his combine numbers. I really think you can only take combine numbers so far. I am talking from whatching him and he did not impress me at all. However Abdoul Hodge did very much sooo!
Well, I am just going to have to disagree with you about Greenway... I just love his instincts... Anyway, my wish list in the 1st round is...

Greenway
Lawson
Jimmy Williams
Bunkley

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 04:07 AM
Well, I am just going to have to disagree with you about Greenway... I just love his instincts... Anyway, my wish list in the 1st round is...

Greenway
Lawson
Jimmy Williams
Bunkley

I would say Lawson, Justice, Jimmy Williams, Cromartie

FinNasty
03-03-2006, 04:10 AM
I would say Lawson, Justice, Jimmy Williams, Cromartie
Not a bad list...

I just dont know about Justice though... I'm not sure where he would fit on our line...

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 04:13 AM
Not a bad list...

I just dont know about Justice though... I'm not sure where he would fit on our team...

I am sure he will! I am as sure about him as you are Greenway!

FinNasty
03-03-2006, 04:28 AM
I am sure he will! I am as sure about him as you are Greenway!

What about Justice do you like so much?

Canadi-Phin
03-03-2006, 09:13 AM
1st Lawson, Justice, Greenway, and Cromartie
2nd Richard Marshall, Jason Allen, Whitner, or Lutui/Spencer
3rd Jacobs would be ideal. Or a linemen depending on what has happened in the first two rounds.
4th Brandon Marshall, Bullocks, Mutua, Kyle Williams, Haralyson
7th Maxey, Clemens, Reddick, Ware

Depends on where people fall in the draft and who we've already picked up

Canadi-Phin
03-03-2006, 09:15 AM
What about Justice do you like so much?

What I like about Justice is that he is a very good athlete by all accounts, has a Nasty streak and wants to dominate people, and we have one hell of a line coach who's assistant coached Justice at USC. If he can play LT then he will be hard to pass up but being such a good athlete I can't see why he couldn't move over there.

Pocoloco
03-03-2006, 10:47 AM
1) Winston Justice or McNeill
2) Jason Allen
3) Omar Jacobs

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 03:40 PM
What about Justice do you like so much?


Well he got into trouble like most KIDS, But what I like is how he handled it after all that. He seemed to realize that he made a mistake and has done a great job since. I like his athletic ability and he has a Mean streak that this line needs alot. He played at USC where they ran and passed alot, So you know he knows how to do both very well.