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Mile High Fin
03-03-2006, 03:08 PM
Round 1:
1 Houston - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT
4 New York Jets - Jay Cutler QB
5 Green Bay - AJ Hawk OLB
6 San Francisco - Mario Williams DE
7 Oakland - Michael Huff S
8 Buffalo - Winston Justice OT
9 Detroit - Vernon Davis TE
10 Arizona - Lendale White RB
11 St. Louis - Vince Young QB
12 Cleveland - Haloti Ngata DT
13 Baltimore - Jimmy Williams CB
14 Philadelphia - Broderick Bunkley DT
15 Atlanta - Ko Simpson S
16 Miami - Chad Greenway OLB
17 Minnesota - DeAngelo Williams RB
18 Dallas - Santonio Holmes WR
19 San Diego - Chad Jackson WR
20 Kansas City - Tye Hill CB
21 New England - Manny Lawson OLB/DE
22 Denver - Tamba Hali DE
23 Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeil OT
24 Cincinnati - Leonard Pope TE
25 New York Giants - DeMeco Ryans OLB
26 Chicago - Ashton Youboty CB
27 Carolina - Laurence Maroney RB
28 Jacksonville - Ernie Sims OLB
29 Denver - Gabe Watson DT
30 Indianapolis - Bobby Carpenter OLB
31 Seattle - Sinorice Moss WR
32 Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold C

Round 2:
33 Houston - Eric Winston OT
34 New Orleans - Claude Wroten DT
35 New York Jets - Ryan O'Callaghan OT
36 Green Bay - Max Jean-Giles G
37 Oakland - Mathias Kiwanuka DE
38 San Francisco - Thomas Howard OLB
39 Tennessee - Kamerion Wimbley DE
40 Detroit - Brodie Croyle QB
41 Arizona - Charles Spencer G
42 Buffalo - Orien Harris DT
43 Cleveland - D'Qwell Jackson ILB
44 Baltimore - Donte Whitner S
45 Philadelphia - Maurice Stovall WR
46 St. Louis - Darnell Bing S
47 Atlanta - Joseph Addai RB
48 Minnesota - Taitusi Lutui G
49 Dallas - Daniel Bullocks S
50 San Diego - Jason Allen S
51 Miami - Antonio Cromartie CB
52 New England - Richard Marshall CB
53 Washington - Derek Hagan WR
54 Kansas City - Rodrique Wright DT
55 Cinncinati - John McCargo DT
56 NY Giants - Jonathan Joseph CB
57 Chicago - Mercedes Lewis TE
58 Carolina - Dominique Byrd TE
59 Tampa Bay - Kelly Jennings CB
60 Jacksonville - Davin Joseph G
61 Denver - Daryn Colledge OT
62 Indianapolis - Jonathan Scott OT
63 Seattle - Abdul Hodge LB
64 Pittsburgh - Martin Nance WR

SUMMARY OF BOTH ROUNDS:

Houston - Reggie Bush RB - Eric Winston OT
New Orleans - Matt Leinart QB - Claude Wroten DT
Tennessee - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT - Kamerion Wimbley DE
New York Jets - Jay Cutler QB - Ryan O'Callaghan OT
Green Bay - AJ Hawk OLB - Max Jean-Giles G
San Francisco - Mario Williams DE - Thomas Howard OLB
Oakland - Michael Huff S - Mathias Kiwanuka DE
Buffalo - Winston Justice OT - Orien Harris DT
Detroit - Vernon Davis TE - Brodie Croyle QB
Arizona - Lendale White RB - Charles Spencer G
St. Louis - Vince Young QB - Darnell Bing S
Cleveland - Haloti Ngata DT - D'Qwell Jackson ILB
Baltimore - Jimmy Williams CB - Donte Whitner S
Philadelphia - Broderick Bunkley DT - Maurice Stovall WR
Atlanta - Ko Simpson S - Joseph Addai RB
Miami - Chad Greenway OLB - Antonio Cromartie CB :eek: :evil:
Minnesota - DeAngelo Williams RB - Taitusi Lutui G
Dallas - Santonio Holmes WR - Daniel Bullocks S
San Diego - Chad Jackson WR - Jason Allen S
Kansas City - Tye Hill CB - Rodrique Wright DT
New England - Manny Lawson OLB/DE - Richard Marshall CB
Washington - No 1st Round Pick :boohoo: / Derek Hagan WR
Denver - Tamba Hali DE - Gabe Watson DT - Daryn Colledge OT
Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeil OT - Kelly Jennings CB
Cincinnati - Leonard Pope TE - John McCargo DT
New York Giants - DeMeco Ryans OLB - Jonathan Joseph CB
Chicago - Ashton Youboty CB - Mercedes Lewis TE
Carolina - Laurence Maroney RB - Dominique Byrd TE
Jacksonville - Ernie Sims OLB - Davin Joseph G
Indianapolis - Bobby Carpenter OLB - Jonathan Scott OT
Seattle - Sinorice Moss WR - Abdul Hodge LB
Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold C - Martin Nance WR



Rip away!!! :D

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-03-2006, 03:12 PM
greenway and cromartie would be quite a nice 1-2 punch.

Motion
03-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Never been very high on Greenway, but would love to land Cromartie in the 2nd.

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 03:23 PM
Never been very high on Greenway, but would love to land Cromartie in the 2nd.


Totally agree. I would muct rather have (From who you have available in your draft)
1st. Manny Lawson
2nd. Jonathan Joseph ( I just don't think Cromartie will be there in the 2nd )

Psychosikes
03-03-2006, 03:46 PM
Would be perfect. Cromartie might slip with all the other corners putting up blazing times... greenway might be around too due to his slow 40 and low bench reps. Grab greg blue in the third and i'll be the happiest phin fan around!!

Motion
03-03-2006, 04:07 PM
Totally agree. I would muct rather have (From who you have available in your draft)
1st. Manny Lawson
2nd. Jonathan Joseph ( I just don't think Cromartie will be there in the 2nd )

Yeah, that sounds much better.

Lappy
03-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Looks ok I think you could flip the saints and the Jets picks, and I'm not sure of the Vince Young and St Louis pick but who knows.

Nice Job!

Eric-Honduras
03-03-2006, 04:25 PM
1. No Way Vince Young drops that far.. (past raiders or cards)
2. Manny Lawson or Ty Hill would be a better pick for Dolphins
3. Where is Thomas Howard OLB 6'3 240 lbs 4.47... will in the 2nd rd.

Would like the fins to look at these guys in the 2nd round....
Daniel Bullocks S or Jason Allen
Thomas Howard OLB
Richard Marshall CB

Mile High Fin
03-03-2006, 04:38 PM
1. No Way Vince Young drops that far.. (past raiders or cards)

2. Manny Lawson or Ty Hill would be a better pick for Dolphins
Some mocks showing Lawson in the mid-2nd area now (he could be a "reach" at #16)
Ty Hill isn't a bad pick, but I think Saban passes on him due to size

3. Where is Thomas Howard OLB 6'3 240 lbs 4.47... will in the 2nd rd.
Thomas Howard is taken #38 by SF

Would like the fins to look at these guys in the 2nd round....
Daniel Bullocks S or Jason Allen I think the CBs are higher value at #51 - Cromartie, Marshall, Joseph - whoever's there

Thomas Howard OLB See above - taken #38

Richard Marshall CB If cromartie's gone...sure


See my comments in red above.

Troysif
03-03-2006, 05:00 PM
Love It

PublixSubsRule
03-03-2006, 05:13 PM
i think that us getting greenway in the first round is a pretty good chance.. he dropped a little from the combine after he ran like a 4.7 i think but i believe he is Sabans kind of player and i think its pretty possible that we could get him

PublixSubsRule
03-03-2006, 05:15 PM
also i think that manny lawson is kind of a reach i would love to get him in the second round but in the first is a big reach he is just a great physical and would be great in the second but idk about 1st round

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 06:01 PM
also i think that manny lawson is kind of a reach i would love to get him in the second round but in the first is a big reach he is just a great physical and would be great in the second but idk about 1st round
Starting to think that maybe Manny Lawson might slip in the Second also. I would honestly trade the Dolphins 1st and 3rd rounders for 2 more seond round picks. I only say that beacuase we could find a Starter at LB, CB, Saftey, Oline very easy with 3 second round picks. Look at all these 2 round possibilities
Jonathan Joseph CB
Antonio Cromartie CB
Davin Joseph OG
Max Jean Giles OG
Thomas Howard LB
Abdoul Hodge LB
Manny Lawson LB
Jason Allen Saftey/CB ( Did play corner before he was needed at Saftey )
Jonathan Scott OT I am not a huge fan of him, But I have not seen much either.
Eric Winston OT Injuruy History really scares me.
Thats not even naming the QB's and Dline man.

I also know that the Value of a 1st and 3rd is more than two 2nds.

SR 7
03-03-2006, 06:10 PM
Totally agree. I would muct rather have (From who you have available in your draft)
1st. Manny Lawson
2nd. Jonathan Joseph ( I just don't think Cromartie will be there in the 2nd )

exactly or r. marshall

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 06:12 PM
exactly or r. marshall


I have not heard a whole lot about him. I will have to check it out!

havanahec
03-03-2006, 07:35 PM
I also know that the Value of a 1st and 3rd is more than two 2nds.[/QUOTE]

Depends on the picks.

kpcane
03-03-2006, 10:04 PM
That would definitely be our draft if Saban was picking the BPA, because those guys are clearly the best available players when we pick.

I'd like to see a more objective mock draft though, because sure we'd all love to get Cromartie in the 2nd, but we should be realistic too. And did Atlanta cut Dunn? Why would they bring in Addai?

Mile High Fin
03-03-2006, 11:31 PM
also i think that manny lawson is kind of a reach i would love to get him in the second round but in the first is a big reach he is just a great physical and would be great in the second but idk about 1st round


Lately, Lawson's been showing up in the mid-2nd round area...

Skeet84
03-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Lately, Lawson's been showing up in the mid-2nd round area...


Yeah and after that great Combine that kinda scares alittle bit. He would probably be better if we moved down, But not right where we are at.

popularwar
03-03-2006, 11:45 PM
Wouldn't mind that one bit.
No, that's a lie, I would hate to see New England get Manny Lawson.

Danny
03-04-2006, 03:46 AM
I'd rather go with Carpenter and then Marshall.....I like Lawson but are his numbers at the combine going to traslate into the playing field? and Cromartie's a question mark too....I'm not gonna cry if we get Greenway and Cromartie tho

Ozzy rules!!

FinNasty
03-04-2006, 03:59 AM
I would rather have Jason Allen over Cromartie... but the damn Chargers took him right before us in this mock... :fire:

I will be very angry if we come that close getting Allen and dont walk away with him...

Skeet84
03-04-2006, 04:13 AM
I would rather have Jason Allen over Cromartie... but the damn Chargers took him right before us in this mock... :fire:

I will be very angry if we come that close getting Allen and dont walk away with him...


I would rather have Cromartie, But Allen is gunna be a good one!

FinNasty
03-04-2006, 04:18 AM
I would rather have Cromartie, But Allen is gunna be a good one!

What do you like about Cromartie over Allen?

CubanCulebra
03-04-2006, 06:31 AM
Come on guys, we have too many needs to be picking a LB with our first pick in the draft. That's ludacris. If the CBA doesn't get done, Saban needs to trade down from 16th, perhaps into the second round, because we will be screwed in FA due to our cap situation. Our first pick will either be a CB/S or OT. The only crazy move I would agree with if is Saban starts publicly announcing interest in Chad Jackson, like he did with Edwards last year, to see if Denver or San Diego bites for a trade. If they don't, darft Jackson anyways to force those team's hands. If still no trade occurs, fine, we end up with 6'1 reciever that runs a 4.43.

SackArtist
03-04-2006, 09:01 AM
Come on guys, we have too many needs to be picking a LB with our first pick in the draft. That's ludacris. If the CBA doesn't get done, Saban needs to trade down from 16th, perhaps into the second round, because we will be screwed in FA due to our cap situation. Our first pick will either be a CB/S or OT. The only crazy move I would agree with if is Saban starts publicly announcing interest in Chad Jackson, like he did with Edwards last year, to see if Denver or San Diego bites for a trade. If they don't, darft Jackson anyways to force those team's hands. If still no trade occurs, fine, we end up with 6'1 reciever that runs a 4.43.
Jackson ran a 4.32 at the combine.

Danny
03-04-2006, 11:30 AM
Come on guys, we have too many needs to be picking a LB with our first pick in the draft. That's ludacris. If the CBA doesn't get done, Saban needs to trade down from 16th, perhaps into the second round, because we will be screwed in FA due to our cap situation. Our first pick will either be a CB/S or OT. The only crazy move I would agree with if is Saban starts publicly announcing interest in Chad Jackson, like he did with Edwards last year, to see if Denver or San Diego bites for a trade. If they don't, darft Jackson anyways to force those team's hands. If still no trade occurs, fine, we end up with 6'1 reciever that runs a 4.43.
Ok snake, so you don't think we need a LB but we should draft a WR at 16?..:confused:

Ozzy rules!!

Mile High Fin
03-04-2006, 12:12 PM
Ok snake, so you don't think we need a LB but we should draft a WR at 16?..:confused:

Ozzy rules!!


:lol:

Good one....

I believe we actually need a OLB.....with the loss of Seau...
An elite OLB would be very helpful for us now and going forward.

ChambersNBoston
03-04-2006, 12:43 PM
Tye hill, Chad JAckson or Gabe Watson with our first round pick

donte whitner, richard marshall, or thomas howard with our second pick

DBoston80
03-04-2006, 12:49 PM
Round 1:
1 Houston - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT
4 New York Jets - Jay Cutler QB
5 Green Bay - AJ Hawk OLB
6 San Francisco - Mario Williams DE
7 Oakland - Michael Huff S
8 Buffalo - Winston Justice OT
9 Detroit - Vernon Davis TE
10 Arizona - Lendale White RB
11 St. Louis - Vince Young QB
12 Cleveland - Haloti Ngata DT
13 Baltimore - Jimmy Williams CB
14 Philadelphia - Broderick Bunkley DT
15 Atlanta - Ko Simpson S
16 Miami - Chad Greenway OLB
17 Minnesota - DeAngelo Williams RB
18 Dallas - Santonio Holmes WR
19 San Diego - Chad Jackson WR
20 Kansas City - Tye Hill CB
21 New England - Manny Lawson OLB/DE
22 Denver - Tamba Hali DE
23 Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeil OT
24 Cincinnati - Leonard Pope TE
25 New York Giants - DeMeco Ryans OLB
26 Chicago - Ashton Youboty CB
27 Carolina - Laurence Maroney RB
28 Jacksonville - Ernie Sims OLB
29 Denver - Gabe Watson DT
30 Indianapolis - Bobby Carpenter OLB
31 Seattle - Sinorice Moss WR
32 Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold C

Round 2:
33 Houston - Eric Winston OT
34 New Orleans - Claude Wroten DT
35 New York Jets - Ryan O'Callaghan OT
36 Green Bay - Max Jean-Giles G
37 Oakland - Mathias Kiwanuka DE
38 San Francisco - Thomas Howard OLB
39 Tennessee - Kamerion Wimbley DE
40 Detroit - Brodie Croyle QB
41 Arizona - Charles Spencer G
42 Buffalo - Orien Harris DT
43 Cleveland - D'Qwell Jackson ILB
44 Baltimore - Donte Whitner S
45 Philadelphia - Maurice Stovall WR
46 St. Louis - Darnell Bing S
47 Atlanta - Joseph Addai RB
48 Minnesota - Taitusi Lutui G
49 Dallas - Daniel Bullocks S
50 San Diego - Jason Allen S
51 Miami - Antonio Cromartie CB
52 New England - Richard Marshall CB
53 Washington - Derek Hagan WR
54 Kansas City - Rodrique Wright DT
55 Cinncinati - John McCargo DT
56 NY Giants - Jonathan Joseph CB
57 Chicago - Mercedes Lewis TE
58 Carolina - Dominique Byrd TE
59 Tampa Bay - Kelly Jennings CB
60 Jacksonville - Davin Joseph G
61 Denver - Daryn Colledge OT
62 Indianapolis - Jonathan Scott OT
63 Seattle - Abdul Hodge LB
64 Pittsburgh - Martin Nance WR

SUMMARY OF BOTH ROUNDS:

Houston - Reggie Bush RB - Eric Winston OT
New Orleans - Matt Leinart QB - Claude Wroten DT
Tennessee - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT - Kamerion Wimbley DE
New York Jets - Jay Cutler QB - Ryan O'Callaghan OT
Green Bay - AJ Hawk OLB - Max Jean-Giles G
San Francisco - Mario Williams DE - Thomas Howard OLB
Oakland - Michael Huff S - Mathias Kiwanuka DE
Buffalo - Winston Justice OT - Orien Harris DT
Detroit - Vernon Davis TE - Brodie Croyle QB
Arizona - Lendale White RB - Charles Spencer G
St. Louis - Vince Young QB - Darnell Bing S
Cleveland - Haloti Ngata DT - D'Qwell Jackson ILB
Baltimore - Jimmy Williams CB - Donte Whitner S
Philadelphia - Broderick Bunkley DT - Maurice Stovall WR
Atlanta - Ko Simpson S - Joseph Addai RB
Miami - Chad Greenway OLB - Antonio Cromartie CB :eek: :evil:
Minnesota - DeAngelo Williams RB - Taitusi Lutui G
Dallas - Santonio Holmes WR - Daniel Bullocks S
San Diego - Chad Jackson WR - Jason Allen S
Kansas City - Tye Hill CB - Rodrique Wright DT
New England - Manny Lawson OLB/DE - Richard Marshall CB
Washington - No 1st Round Pick :boohoo: / Derek Hagan WR
Denver - Tamba Hali DE - Gabe Watson DT - Daryn Colledge OT
Tampa Bay - Marcus McNeil OT - Kelly Jennings CB
Cincinnati - Leonard Pope TE - John McCargo DT
New York Giants - DeMeco Ryans OLB - Jonathan Joseph CB
Chicago - Ashton Youboty CB - Mercedes Lewis TE
Carolina - Laurence Maroney RB - Dominique Byrd TE
Jacksonville - Ernie Sims OLB - Davin Joseph G
Indianapolis - Bobby Carpenter OLB - Jonathan Scott OT
Seattle - Sinorice Moss WR - Abdul Hodge LB
Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold C - Martin Nance WR



Rip away!!! :D

Not bad..I would think the Bears would adress the TE or WR position in the 1st if at all possible.:D

Dolfan11
03-04-2006, 03:58 PM
At 16, I rather have Ernie Sims than Chad Greenway. Cromartie would be nice in the 2nd, if not I wouldn't mind all the other suggestions. Lawson at 16 is a reach I think.

Skeet84
03-04-2006, 04:51 PM
What do you like about Cromartie over Allen?


Just the fact that Cromartie is such a great athlete and still alittle raw so he could get alot better. Besides his injury does not scare me as much as if that had happened to a running back. Allen is good however I think he is gunna play Saftey, But he could play CB. Cromartie is a CB and what we really need. I have whatched both on tape, However I have seen Allen alot more. I would not mind either one tho.

Skeet84
03-04-2006, 04:53 PM
At 16, I rather have Ernie Sims than Chad Greenway. Cromartie would be nice in the 2nd, if not I wouldn't mind all the other suggestions. Lawson at 16 is a reach I think.


Ernie Simms is a reach at 16 also. I would rather take Winston Justice at 16 and get best defender available with the 2nd round pick.
Jonathan Joseph
Jason Allen
Antonio Cromartie
Abdoul Hodge
Manny Lawson

FinNasty
03-04-2006, 07:35 PM
Just the fact that Cromartie is such a great athlete and still alittle raw so he could get alot better. Besides his injury does not scare me as much as if that had happened to a running back. Allen is good however I think he is gunna play Saftey, But he could play CB. Cromartie is a CB and what we really need. I have whatched both on tape, However I have seen Allen alot more. I would not mind either one tho.

Nice new sig and avatar...

Anyway... Allen is a CB... he was only moved to safety because of depth issues on Tennessee... He was a top 15 pick in this years draft before he got injured...

He is also faster (4.35) than Cromartie while still being a big *** corner at 6'2 210...

He has alot more experience and is more polished...

Skeet84
03-04-2006, 07:57 PM
Nice new sig and avatar...

Anyway... Allen is a CB... he was only moved to safety because of depth issues on Tennessee... He was a top 15 pick in this years draft before he got injured...

He is also faster (4.35) than Cromartie while still being a big *** corner at 6'2 210...

He has alot more experience and is more polished...


I agree that Jason Allen is a great player. I just think Cromartie is better. I think Cromartie is alot more pyshical than Allen. However I would not be mad if we got either one with the 2nd pick in the draft.

Thanks about the Sig and Avatar! ILPhinFan88 did a Great Job!

FinNasty
03-04-2006, 10:17 PM
I agree that Jason Allen is a great player. I just think Cromartie is better. I think Cromartie is alot more pyshical than Allen. However I would not be mad if we got either one with the 2nd pick in the draft.

Thanks about the Sig and Avatar! ILPhinFan88 did a Great Job!
Cromartie does have more upside... but Allen is a much more finished product, and more proven... so thats why I like him more... To each his own... :cooldude:

Skeet84
03-05-2006, 12:01 AM
Cromartie does have more upside... but Allen is a much more finished product, and more proven... so thats why I like him more... To each his own... :cooldude:


I agree totally with that statement and if we get either one we should be thankful!

Miamifin23
03-05-2006, 03:05 AM
Green Bay and San Fran would be big winners with those 2 rounds. Oakland's isn't too bad either.

Skeet84
03-05-2006, 03:17 AM
Green Bay and San Fran would be big winners with those 2 rounds. Oakland's isn't too bad either.


Its hard not to be a winner when you have picks that High

CubanCulebra
03-05-2006, 06:19 AM
"Ok snake, so you don't think we need a LB but we should draft a WR at 16?..:confused:

Ozzy rules!!"


Where does it say "should" in post smart ***? I wrote that I wouldn't "Argue" with the move. If Miami drafts a LB in the first 3 rounds without there being any trade downs or anything, I will call you Sir KING Danny any time I address you. A line backer will be had in FA, in the 4th. or with one of the 3 7's, I stake my pride on it.

Ozzy rules!! But Hendricks is god!!!

Todd347347
03-05-2006, 09:12 AM
"Ok snake, so you don't think we need a LB but we should draft a WR at 16?..:confused:

Ozzy rules!!"


Where does it say "should" in post smart ***? I wrote that I wouldn't "Argue" with the move. If Miami drafts a LB in the first 3 rounds without there being any trade downs or anything, I will call you Sir KING Danny any time I address you. A line backer will be had in FA, in the 4th. or with one of the 3 7's, I stake my pride on it.

Ozzy rules!! But Hendricks is god!!!

Whats worse is you picked a WR because other teams might want him... Thats the worst draft strategy i have ever heard.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Ernie Simms is a reach at 16 also.
he could be gone by the time we pick.

primetime23
03-05-2006, 11:14 AM
u didnt even have griffin in you r 2nd round draft your saying hes going to be drafted after the first or second round

Mile High Fin
03-05-2006, 02:50 PM
u didnt even have griffin in you r 2nd round draft your saying hes going to be drafted after the first or second round

Cedric Griffin is rated below the other CBs I have going in rounds 1-2.
So, yes, I'd show him being taken in early-3rd...

He could be taken late-2nd, instead of one of the other CBs, but it's a close call.

Skeet84
03-05-2006, 02:54 PM
he could be gone by the time we pick.

I highly doubt it, But if he does that means that someone is gunna fall to us.

FinNasty
03-05-2006, 05:51 PM
he could be gone by the time we pick.
maybe... but I severely doubt it... I cant think of anyone that would want to draft him before us...

However, I would love it if it happend... because that would push someone down to us that we might actually be interested in drafting...

(since I dont think we will have any interest in Simms)

FinNasty
03-05-2006, 05:53 PM
Cedric Griffin is rated below the other CBs I have going in rounds 1-2.
So, yes, I'd show him being taken in early-3rd...

He could be taken late-2nd, instead of one of the other CBs, but it's a close call.

I dont think Griffen lasts that long at all. Maybe its just because I am really high on him, but I think he goes in the mid-2nd at the latest....