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Itsdahumidity
03-04-2006, 12:04 PM
http://footballsfuture.com/2006/proday.html


Looks like Brad Smith had consistent times at his Mizzou workout, but read about that unknown from Missouri Valley - Tarrence Rhodes DB. :eek:

CK, Boomer, know anything about him?

I found this link:
http://www.dakstats.com/websync/default.cfm?page=team_st_i&association=10&sea=NAIMFB_2005&sg=MFB&team=2251

Skeet84
03-04-2006, 05:09 PM
Yeah that Tarrence Rhodes has all the tools when it comes to speed and height to play CB at the NFL level how good does he play CB? Hmmmmm :confused:

playmaker1
03-06-2006, 12:42 AM
he should be a guy that the Dolphins keep an eye on

Boomer
03-06-2006, 11:06 AM
Smith will likely be a WR in the pros. Rhodes I haven't seen play, but there were a lot of scouts in attendance and he passed the eyeball test for sure. He's a track guy.....whether he can translate those skills itno playing corner at the next level remains to be seen.

weisdolphins
03-06-2006, 11:17 AM
Boomer do you believe Omar Jacobs will be available for us to pick in the third round?

King Felix
03-06-2006, 01:49 PM
omar in the third? hmmmmmmmm im startin to liek that

Itsdahumidity
03-06-2006, 02:59 PM
Devin Hester ran a 4.27... uh oh.

"Danieal Manning, a cornerback out of Abilene Christian, ran a 4.4"

He's a solid 200 lbs folks so while Manning is not tall 5-10/5-11, he is that type of big corner Saban looks for.

Motion
03-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Devin Hester ran a 4.27... uh oh.

"Danieal Manning, a cornerback out of Abilene Christian, ran a 4.4"

He's a solid 200 lbs folks so while Manning is not tall 5-10/5-11, he is that type of big corner Saban looks for.

How so? Saban's always said he likes big physical corners.

playmaker1
03-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Devin Hester ran a 4.27... uh oh.

"Danieal Manning, a cornerback out of Abilene Christian, ran a 4.4"

He's a solid 200 lbs folks so while Manning is not tall 5-10/5-11, he is that type of big corner Saban looks for.

I see us watching him closely in the mid rounds maybe, depends on our first few picks

HysterikiLL
03-06-2006, 04:54 PM
I'd take Manning in the 2nd round. He's very underrated and an amazing prospect.

Itsdahumidity
03-06-2006, 05:29 PM
How so? Saban's always said he likes big physical corners.

:confused:

Itsdahumidity
03-08-2006, 02:06 PM
3/8/06 - WR Greg Jennings continued to impress.


http://footballsfuture.com/2006/proday.html

Motion
03-08-2006, 02:10 PM
:confused:

You said he's only 5'10, then said he's that type of big corner Saban likes.

Saban likes big tall physical corners from what I've seen. Just wondering, no big deal.

Itsdahumidity
03-08-2006, 02:38 PM
You said he's only 5'10, then said he's that type of big corner Saban likes.

Saban likes big tall physical corners from what I've seen. Just wondering, no big deal.

oh, okay. Just some people view "tall" & "big" differently. I had believed that too, as far as Saban's tall corners philosophy, but if the DB is exceptionally talented like T. Hill this yr and if they have a great vertical I don't think he'll mind. :D
Look at T. Poole in ne, and don't you think Saban wouldn't mind A. Winfield in his defensive backfield?

Motion
03-08-2006, 02:39 PM
oh, okay. Just some people view "tall" & "big" differently. I had believed that too, as far as Saban's tall corners philosophy, but if the DB is exceptionally talented like T. Hill this yr and if they have a great vertical I don't think he'll mind. :D
Look at T. Poole in ne, and don't you think Saban wouldn't mind A. Winfield in his defensive backfield?

True

Itsdahumidity
03-08-2006, 02:52 PM
Hey Speed what's the deal with:

CB Gerrick McPhearson

LB William Kershaw

Are they legit prospects?

Motion
03-08-2006, 02:55 PM
Hey Speed what's the deal with:

CB Gerrick McPhearson

LB William Kershaw

Are they legit prospects?

To be honest, never heard of either one. I'll have to look into that. :wink:

Itsdahumidity
03-08-2006, 03:00 PM
To be honest, never heard of either one. I'll have to look into that. :wink:

They went to U of Maryland and there's only a few including:
D'Qwell and Vernon Davis that are listed. I haven't followed the first two either, but figured since the Terps program has been on the rise the past couple of yrs they must be at least decent.

Motion
03-08-2006, 03:13 PM
They went to U of Maryland and there's only a few including:
D'Qwell and Vernon Davis that are listed. I haven't followed the first two either, but figured since the Terps program has been on the rise the past couple of yrs they must be at least decent.

Interesting, yeah I live in MD but don't follow the Terps much. :D I've been a diehard Florida Gators fan for years.

Itsdahumidity
03-09-2006, 11:29 AM
3/8/06 - Wis WR Jonathan Orr ran a 4.24 on a fast track. Some project him to be a 4th rder. I think he's a CC clone but with more size.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/jonathanorr.html

Height: 6-2 1/8
Weight: 198

"Strengths:
Has good size and a solid frame... Can really stretch a field vertically...Athletic and is a good leaper...Has good hands and will catch the ball away from his body...Runs well after the catch...Has good ball skills...Still has a lot of potential and might have been underutilized in the Badgers run-first offense.

Weaknesses:
Was not nearly as productive as you would expect a player with his abilities to be...Does not play as fast as he times...Needs to get stronger...Struggles to read defensive coverages."

Geforce
03-09-2006, 11:35 AM
3/8/06 - Wis WR Jonathan Orr ran a 4.24 on a fast track. Some project him to be a 4th rder. I think he's a CC clone but with more size.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/jonathanorr.html

Height: 6-2 1/8
Weight: 198

"Strengths:
Has good size and a solid frame... Can really stretch a field vertically...Athletic and is a good leaper...Has good hands and will catch the ball away from his body...Runs well after the catch...Has good ball skills...Still has a lot of potential and might have been underutilized in the Badgers run-first offense.

Weaknesses:
Was not nearly as productive as you would expect a player with his abilities to be...Does not play as fast as he times...Needs to get stronger...Struggles to read defensive coverages."
He's taller more then Chambers but doesn't weight as much. From the few Wisconsin games I saw last year I do remember him catching a few passes. Orr is more of a straight line receiver with obvious game breaking speed. I'm not sure of his route running because I can only remember him doing flys and come back patterns.

Itsdahumidity
03-09-2006, 11:44 AM
He's taller more then Chambers but doesn't weight as much. From the few Wisconsin games I saw last year I do remember him catching a few passes. Orr is more of a straight line receiver with obvious game breaking speed. I'm not sure of his route running because I can only remember him doing flys and come back patterns.


:up: Thanks for the info. Hey you never know if he'll drop late 2nd day. He'd be a good pick up.

Geforce
03-09-2006, 11:46 AM
Hey Speed what's the deal with:

CB Gerrick McPhearson
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/gerrickmcphearson.html


LB William Kershaw
http://umterps.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kershaw_william00.html

Geforce
03-10-2006, 04:21 AM
Ohio State Pro Day - March 09

AJ Hawk LB 4.49 and 4.42 (One scout reportedly had him at 4.46 and 4.38)
Santonio Holmes WR 4.34 and 4.34
Bobby Carpenter LB 4.66 and 4.68
Donte Whitner S 4.39 and 4.37
Ashton Youboty CB 4.43 and 4.45

Itsdahumidity
03-10-2006, 12:05 PM
Geforce, I wouldn't mind Whitner in the 3rd. Have you seen this Players Profile link?

http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/

Motion
03-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Ohio State Pro Day - March 09

AJ Hawk LB 4.49 and 4.42 (One scout reportedly had him at 4.46 and 4.38)
Santonio Holmes WR 4.34 and 4.34
Bobby Carpenter LB 4.66 and 4.68
Donte Whitner S 4.39 and 4.37
Ashton Youboty CB 4.43 and 4.45

Wow very impressive numbers. OSU is known for their speed, one of the few programs that actually has a Speed Coach.

Wouldn't mind Whitner in the 3rd although he'll very likely go in the 2nd.

Geforce
03-10-2006, 01:37 PM
Geforce, I wouldn't mind Whitner in the 3rd. Have you seen this Players Profile link?

http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/

I didn't see his profile there. Have you tried
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/dontewhitner.html
They have him ranked second amongst safeties.

Geforce
03-10-2006, 01:39 PM
Wow very impressive numbers. OSU is known for their speed, one of the few programs that actually has a Speed Coach.

Wouldn't mind Whitner in the 3rd although he'll very likely go in the 2nd.
After what he has done at the combine and pro day, I have to agree with you.

Itsdahumidity
03-10-2006, 01:55 PM
I didn't see his profile there. Have you tried
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/dontewhitner.html
They have him ranked second amongst safeties.

Yeah he doesn't have one on that site. LOL my bad, I meant this "Players Profile" section, not this particular player's profile. NFLDraftCountdown is cool though. Try http://2006.ontheclockdraft.com/

Their mocks are old but the Background & Analysis sections of the Profiles are great.

Geforce
03-10-2006, 02:02 PM
Yeah he doesn't have one on that site. LOL my bad, I meant this "Players Profile" section, not this particular player's profile. NFLDraftCountdown is cool though. Try http://2006.ontheclockdraft.com/

Their mocks are old but the Background & Analysis sections of the Profiles are great.
On the Clock is a very good site. This is where I got the Pro Day times.
http://2006.ontheclockdraft.com/quickhits.php

Itsdahumidity
03-11-2006, 11:33 AM
3/10/06

Akron WR Domenik Hixon ran a 4.36
Height / Weight:
6-2 / 192

- Hixon impressed scouts with his speed and athleticism, and caught passes from former Zips' and current Browns quarterback Charlie Frye.
- had the best time in the 3-cone shuttle run, clocking a 6.65
- ranks No. 2 on the UA career receptions list (141) and third on the career receiving yards chart (2,092)
- was a second-team All-MAC choice in 2005 and started 44 of 48 career games (20 at free safety/24 at wide receiver)

Geforce
03-11-2006, 11:58 AM
3/10/06

Akron WR Domenik Hixon ran a 4.36
Height / Weight:
6-2 / 192

- Hixon impressed scouts with his speed and athleticism, and caught passes from former Zips' and current Browns quarterback Charlie Frye.
- had the best time in the 3-cone shuttle run, clocking a 6.65
- ranks No. 2 on the UA career receptions list (141) and third on the career receiving yards chart (2,092)
- was a second-team All-MAC choice in 2005 and started 44 of 48 career games (20 at free safety/24 at wide receiver)
He sounds like an interesting project. I know he was an all-purpose receiver/returner for Akron but I didn't know he was that fast.

Geforce
03-11-2006, 08:31 PM
Charlie Whitehurst.
According to NFL.com, he looked during his workout despite his arm being 80-85% due to a throwing injury. He also may have looked better if his regular WR had been there.

Itsdahumidity
03-13-2006, 12:03 PM
Geforce I would select Whitehurst over Croyle due to injury histories. You?

Anyway, 3/11:

Arizona State

Derek Hagan, WR
vertical: 39.5"
broad jump: 10'5"

Jamar Williams, LB
40: 4.58, 4.59
vertical: 35.5"
broad: 10'4"

Grayling Love, C
40: 5.53, 5.51
vertical: 28.5"

3/12
Kentucky
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/football/14078992.htm

"UK's top NFL prospect, safety Muhammad Abdullah, didn't run as well as he had hoped to in the 40-yard dash, delivering a time of 4.6. But Abdullah could squeeze into the late rounds of the draft and is a sure shot to get invited to camp."

Geforce
03-13-2006, 09:45 PM
Geforce I would select Whitehurst over Croyle due to injury histories. You?

Right now, Croyle is actually the healthier of the two. Whitehurst is still recovering from a shoulder injury. At the moment he says he's about 80% but should be 100% at the time he throws for the scouts again later this month.

Whitehurst is more of a Riverboat Gambler and will throw passes in situations where he shouldn't. Croyle doesn't take as many chance and probably manages the game better.

Itsdahumidity
03-15-2006, 05:29 PM
3/15/06

Eastern Washington (small 1-AA school)

http://www.easterneronline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/03/14/4417bee80df98

QB Erik Meyer 6'1" 210 ran a 4.7
"passed for 4,003 yards and 30 touchdowns as a senior in 2005"

WR Eric Kimble 5' 11" 200 ran a ?
"career 253 catches for 4,140 yards and 46 touchdowns, second in career touchdowns for a Division 1-AA player behind only Jerry Rice, who scored 50 times in four seasons."

They also have two smallish DBs:
Isaiah Trufant 5' 7" 160 (Marcus' brother) ran a 4.31
and
Jesse Hendrix 5' 9" 165 ran a 4.41

Geforce
03-16-2006, 02:05 PM
3/15/06

Eastern Washington (small 1-AA school)

http://www.easterneronline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/03/14/4417bee80df98

QB Erik Meyer 6'1" 210 ran a 4.7
"passed for 4,003 yards and 30 touchdowns as a senior in 2005"

WR Eric Kimble 5' 11" 200 ran a ?
"career 253 catches for 4,140 yards and 46 touchdowns, second in career touchdowns for a Division 1-AA player behind only Jerry Rice, who scored 50 times in four seasons."

They also have two smallish DBs:
Isaiah Trufant 5' 7" 160 (Marcus' brother) ran a 4.31
and
Jesse Hendrix 5' 9" 165 ran a 4.41
With the numbers Eric Kimble put up, it's make me wonder why he wasn't invited to the combine while Meyers was.

Itsdahumidity
03-16-2006, 02:15 PM
With the numbers Eric Kimble put up, it's make me wonder why he wasn't invited to the combine while Meyers was.


Yeah, IDK maybe it was a numbers game or something. But why put a limit on invitees if the NFL has the time, resources and man-power?

Itsdahumidity
03-16-2006, 02:18 PM
Geforce who do you use our 1st on now that we don't have a 2 and assuming we don't trade a player for a pick.

Geforce
03-16-2006, 02:32 PM
Victor Mann FB Kansas State 6-1 1/4 279 ran the 40 in 4.49 before pulling his hamstring.
Although he was not considered one of the top 5 FB when the season began, he really made some improvements in his blocking and could be an interesting FA pickup after the draft.

Richard Marshall CB Fresno State 5-11 1/8, 187 ran the 40 in 4.47 and 4.45. Had a 38½-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-5 long jump, a 4.37 short shuttle and an 11.32 long shuttle. He benched 13 times. His performance probably solidified a second round grade in the draft.

Joe Toledo OT Washington 6-5 3/8 332 stood by what he did at the combine. 5.11 40 and 32 reps in the bench press. At his pro day, ran the short shuttle 4.66 and the 3-cone drill in 7.92. Toledo is a former TE who has made tremendous strides in his development as a OT. Probably a second day pick who could provide depth while improving his techniques.

Itsdahumidity
03-16-2006, 03:06 PM
Good info.
279 lb FB? What backer would want to go against him? I read where we're in the market for a pass catching FB. But what about that kid from ... Navy?

If we trade down 10/12 spots and get a 2nd, I wouldn't mind selecting Richard Marshall in round two.

Toledo in the 7th aint bad at all. "...a former TE..." See that's what I'm talking about. Players with versatility. This would mean he has the foot quickness at Tackle.

Geforce
03-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Geforce who do you use our 1st on now that we don't have a 2 and assuming we don't trade a player for a pick.
I really haven't determine who we should draft as of now. I'm still waiting to see what we do in free agency. My first choice would probably be Manny Lawson. Not only did he run a 4.41 but he was also in the top 3 for LB in the other drills. Not only is he straight line fast but he can change directions as well. He can also drop into coverage which gives him the edge over some of the other OLB.

Geforce
03-16-2006, 04:12 PM
Good info.
279 lb FB? What backer would want to go against him? I read where we're in the market for a pass catching FB. But what about that kid from ... Navy?

If we trade down 10/12 spots and get a 2nd, I wouldn't mind selecting Richard Marshall in round two.

Toledo in the 7th aint bad at all. "...a former TE..." See that's what I'm talking about. Players with versatility. This would mean he has the foot quickness at Tackle.

Hmm...are you talking about Matt Hall? I think he's a junior. Plus he still has that Navy commitment he has to fulfill. Unless he gives him the same waiver they gave Kauffman years ago, I don't see him playing anytime soon.

my 2 cents
03-16-2006, 06:13 PM
Good info.
279 lb FB? What backer would want to go against him? I read where we're in the market for a pass catching FB. But what about that kid from ... Navy?

If we trade down 10/12 spots and get a 2nd, I wouldn't mind selecting Richard Marshall in round two.

Toledo in the 7th aint bad at all. "...a former TE..." See that's what I'm talking about. Players with versatility. This would mean he has the foot quickness at Tackle.

IMO Joe Toledo is a solid 80-100 player...3-4th round. Marshall would be nice, I agree.

Geforce
03-17-2006, 02:58 AM
Some notibles from FSU's Pro Day Workout.

Antonio Cromartie CB 6-2 3/4 203 ran the 40 in 4.39 and 4.37. Did an amazing 3.89 in the short shuttle. Only had a 32-inch vertical. Cromartie's official vertical was 42-inches not 32-inches as reported by NFL.com.

Ernie Sims LB 5-11 1/4 234 ran his 40s in 4.55 and 4.48.

Brodrick Buckley 6-2 5/8 304 showed amazing agility in performing the short shuttle in 4.16. Take in account that Richard Marshall ran the short shuttle 4.37 at his Pro Day.

Itsdahumidity
03-17-2006, 11:42 AM
Some notibles from FSU's Pro Day Workout.

Antonio Cromartie CB 6-2 3/4 203 ran the 40 in 4.39 and 4.37. Did an amazing 3.89 in the short shuttle. Only had a 32-inch vertical.

Ernie Sims LB 5-11 1/4 234 ran his 40s in 4.55 and 4.48.

Brodrick Buckley 6-2 5/8 304 showed amazing agility in performing the short shuttle in 4.16. Take in account that Richard Marshall ran the short shuttle 4.37 at his Pro Day.

The name of the Navy FB is Kyle Eckel. I know he left us for a tour of duty but when is he due back? And does he have good hands?

- I would trade down for Cromartie (great size/speed, has to be more physical though)

- Sims is a tackling machine but w/off field issues

- Bunk will be the first DT taken imo, even before Ngata. 4.16 shuttle time? :eek:

Geforce
03-17-2006, 01:45 PM
The name of the Navy FB is Kyle Eckel. I know he left us for a tour of duty but when is he due back? And does he have good hands?

- I would trade down for Cromartie (great size/speed, has to be more physical though)

- Sims is a tackling machine but w/off field issues

- Bunk will be the first DT taken imo, even before Ngata. 4.16 shuttle time? :eek:

I'm not sure when Kyle will be back. I't only been six month since his tour began.

Sims off the field incident was out of character for him so no one should hold it against him. He could be an outstanding 4-3 OLB.

I was surprised by Bunkley's time as well. I thought it was a misprint the first time I read it. Was arrested in 2003 for stealing a video game. Something he says he regrets and chalks it up to being young and immature.

Itsdahumidity
03-17-2006, 07:19 PM
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

NCAA | Cutler has strong Pro Day throwing performance
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:53:17 -0800
Bryan Mullen, of the Tennessean, reports Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler had a strong throwing performance at his Pro Day workout Friday, March 17. Cutler threw about 50 passes to former Vanderbilt WRs Brandon Smith, Erik Davis and TE Dustin Dunning. In swirling winds, Cutler made almost every throw from short out patterns to deep balls. Representatives from 25 NFL teams witnessed an ideal throwing performance by Cutler in less ideal conditions.

Geforce
03-17-2006, 07:35 PM
Cortland Finnegan, Samford DB 5-9 7/8 188 ran the 40 in 4.35 and 4.33
Had a 44-inch vertical and ran the short shuttle in 4.34

Was and a 1st team Ohio Valley Conference safety and return specialist. He led Samford and was 4th in the conference in tackles with 98. He also had 1 int, seven passed defended, forced one fumble, recovered one fumble and block one kick.
Finnegan led the conference and was 8th in the nation in punt returns, averaging over 15 yards per return. He also led the conference in kick off returns with over 25 yards per return, finishing 22nd nationally.
Was named 2003 OVC Defensive Player of the Year.

In his first race of the track season, he almost set a school record in the 60 meter dash by running a 6.96.

I never saw him play and will probably be a late second day pick up or FA. He would probably get a shot with someone just because of his athletic abilities. Could end up being a special team ace.

Geforce
03-17-2006, 07:38 PM
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

NCAA | Cutler has strong Pro Day throwing performance
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:53:17 -0800
Bryan Mullen, of the Tennessean, reports Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler had a strong throwing performance at his Pro Day workout Friday, March 17. Cutler threw about 50 passes to former Vanderbilt WRs Brandon Smith, Erik Davis and TE Dustin Dunning. In swirling winds, Cutler made almost every throw from short out patterns to deep balls. Representatives from 25 NFL teams witnessed an ideal throwing performance by Cutler in less ideal conditions.
This doesn't surprise me that he would have a strong Pro Day performance.

Itsdahumidity
03-17-2006, 07:58 PM
Cortland Finnegan, Samford DB 5-9 7/8 188 ran the 40 in 4.35 and 4.33
Had a 44-inch vertical and ran the short shuttle in 4.34

Was and a 1st team Ohio Valley Conference safety and return specialist. He led Samford and was 4th in the conference in tackles with 98. He also had 1 int, seven passed defended, forced one fumble, recovered one fumble and block one kick.
Finnegan led the conference and was 8th in the nation in punt returns, averaging over 15 yards per return. He also led the conference in kick off returns with over 25 yards per return, finishing 22nd nationally.
Was named 2003 OVC Defensive Player of the Year.

In his first race of the track season, he almost set a school record in the 60 meter dash by running a 6.96.

I never saw him play and will probably be a late second day pick up or FA. He would probably get a shot with someone just because of his athletic abilities. Could end up being a special team ace.


Man I'm telling you, there's going to be plenty of talented prospects available in the late rounds & un-drafted FA, and guess which coach will have a slight advantage ... :hail: SABAN

Finnegan's 44-inch vertical will make teams overlook his 5-9 height.

Phishstix
03-18-2006, 01:05 AM
word is that j. williams ran a 4.37 (unconfirmed) at va. tech's pro day. if true, he probably won't be in our reach come draft day.

Jimmy James
03-18-2006, 04:04 AM
I hear that DeMeco Ryans ran a 4.66 at Alabama's pro day. I imagine that hurts his first round prospects...

Geforce
03-18-2006, 09:59 AM
I hear that DeMeco Ryans ran a 4.66 at Alabama's pro day. I imagine that hurts his first round prospects...
He ran his two 40s in 4.66 and 4.67. Which was close to the same times he ran at the combine.

Itsdahumidity
03-19-2006, 11:45 AM
3/18
Colorado

TE Joe Klopfenstein ran a 4.55 improvement from his 4.62 combine time.
6' 6" 245lbs
2005
33 rec
468 yds
4 td

Geforce
03-19-2006, 12:34 PM
3/18
Colorado

TE Joe Klopfenstein ran a 4.55 improvement from his 4.62 combine time.
6' 6" 245lbs
2005
33 rec
468 yds
4 td
That kind of speed will help stretch the middle of the field for some team.

Itsdahumidity
03-20-2006, 02:30 PM
Gil Brandt's Pro Day Workouts Page:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts

Scroll down page. Good stuff, includes his comments.

Itsdahumidity
03-22-2006, 12:18 PM
3/18

Pittsburgh

Charles Spencer OL *Spencer (6-4¾, 342) stood on his 40 time and bench-press number from the Combine. He had a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-3 long jump, 4.64 short shuttle and 7.74 three-cone drill.

Greg Lee WR *Lee (6-1½, 197) ran his 40s in 4.65 and 4.66 seconds. He also had a 34½-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-2 long jump. He stood on his Combine numbers in the short shuttle, three-cone drill and bench press.

Josh Lay CB *Lay (6-0 3/8, 194) stood on almost all of his numbers from the Combine. He ran a 3.94 short shuttle and 6.78 three-cone drill.

Eric Gill TE *Gill (6-4¼, 261) ran his 40s in 4.97 and 5.01 seconds. He had a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-10 long jump, 4.25 short shuttle, 7.59 three-cone drill, and did 22 lifts.
* - Gil Brandt's comments

3/21
North Carolina

DE Tommy Davis 6' 2" 257 did 34 reps of 225 pounds, a team-high.

CB Cedrick Holt 5' 11" 190 ran a 4.4

WR Jarwarski Pollock 5' 8" (little dude) 170 also ran 4.4

3/22
Virginia

OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson did 26 reps of 225 bench press and ran a 5.09 40.

QB Marques Hagans 5' 10" 209 ran a 4.56 and 4.53. "...Virginia coach Al Groh thinks Hagans versatility will be valuable in the NFL." 'How many guys can say that during the course of their careers they returned punts, were the personal protector on the punt team, covered kickoffs, caught passes out of the backfield, caught passes as a wide receiver, threw the ball and ran with it.' 'That says a lot about his versatility and his competitiveness and his willingness to do whatever it takes.'

Flyer22
03-22-2006, 12:22 PM
QB Marques Hagans 5' 10" 209 ran a 4.56 and 4.53. "...Virginia coach Al Groh thinks Hagans versatility will be valuable in the NFL." 'How many guys can say that during the course of their careers they returned punts, were the personal protector on the punt team, covered kickoffs, caught passes out of the backfield, caught passes as a wide receiver, threw the ball and ran with it.' 'That says a lot about his versatility and his competitiveness and his willingness to do whatever it takes.'
Do you think Hagans will be drafted?

Motion
03-22-2006, 12:33 PM
3/18

Pittsburgh

Charles Spencer OL *Spencer (6-4¾, 342) stood on his 40 time and bench-press number from the Combine. He had a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-3 long jump, 4.64 short shuttle and 7.74 three-cone drill.

Greg Lee WR *Lee (6-1½, 197) ran his 40s in 4.65 and 4.66 seconds. He also had a 34½-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-2 long jump. He stood on his Combine numbers in the short shuttle, three-cone drill and bench press.

Josh Lay CB *Lay (6-0 3/8, 194) stood on almost all of his numbers from the Combine. He ran a 3.94 short shuttle and 6.78 three-cone drill.

Eric Gill TE *Gill (6-4¼, 261) ran his 40s in 4.97 and 5.01 seconds. He had a 27½-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-10 long jump, 4.25 short shuttle, 7.59 three-cone drill, and did 22 lifts.
* - Gil Brandt's comments

3/21
North Carolina

DE Tommy Davis 6' 2" 257 did 34 reps of 225 pounds, a team-high.

CB Cedrick Holt 5' 11" 190 ran a 4.4

WR Jarwarski Pollock 5' 8" (little dude) 170 also ran 4.4

3/22
Virginia

OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson did 26 reps of 225 bench press and ran a 5.09 40.

QB Marques Hagans 5' 10" 209 ran a 4.56 and 4.53. "...Virginia coach Al Groh thinks Hagans versatility will be valuable in the NFL." 'How many guys can say that during the course of their careers they returned punts, were the personal protector on the punt team, covered kickoffs, caught passes out of the backfield, caught passes as a wide receiver, threw the ball and ran with it.' 'That says a lot about his versatility and his competitiveness and his willingness to do whatever it takes.'

Not very impressive. I know Brick has really long arms but still.

Itsdahumidity
03-22-2006, 12:54 PM
Do you think Hagans will be drafted?

No not really, but at best we use one of our 7s on him and at worst we bring him in as an undrafted FA. Mularkey would have special pkgs for him.

Itsdahumidity
03-22-2006, 12:58 PM
Not very impressive. I know Brick has really long arms but still.

I agree. There's something about Brick's game ... idk I'm not convinced he'll be all-world. He definitely has to get stronger. And as far as Lee, see what happens when you get that wanny stink imprinted on you. :D

Motion
03-22-2006, 01:01 PM
I agree. There's something about Brick's game ... idk I'm not convinced he'll be all-world. He definitely has to get stronger. And as far as Lee, see what happens when you get that wanny stink imprinted on you. :D

:lol: no kidding

Geforce
03-22-2006, 01:08 PM
3/22
Virginia

OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson did 26 reps of 225 bench press and ran a 5.09 40.
His 40 time is close to what he ran at the Combine so no surprise there. The 26 reps are not really surprising because he does have long arms. Maybe this and the fact that he tends to be too upright in his drive blocks that some say his run blocking is suspect.

Geforce
03-23-2006, 08:05 PM
Iowa notables
Chad Greenway 6-2 3/8 240 ran his 40s in a respectable 4.58 and 4.62. He pulled his hamstring and didn't run the shuttles. He also had a 38-inch vertical and did 19 bench press reps.

Abdul Hodge 6-0 3/8 233 ran his 40s in 4.69 and 4.66. He also did 25 bench press reps.

Geforce
03-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 6' 1/8" 215 ran 4.49 but did not run the shuttles or the 3-cone drill. He had a 35 1/2" vertical, 10' 3" broad jump and did 21 bench press reps.

Itsdahumidity
03-24-2006, 10:59 AM
Good numbers for Maroney. I wonder where he'll end up b/c I think the RB position league wide will be filled in 1rd one. He's not projected to go before l. white & d. williams, and maybe j. addai sneaks ahead of him. So someone may get lucky and snatch him 2nd-3rd.

Greenway only doing 19 reps is very disappointing. I like everything else about him but if he can't hold up at the point of attack then I'll pass. It's one thing to get out-muscled by lineman, but if you can't handle backs & receiving TEs ...

A. Hodge is a little light for an ILB for my tastes but he can hit! Those reps show he packs a punch, and plus he has a natural motor. If we could get a 2nd somehow I would pull the trigger.

Motion
03-24-2006, 11:06 AM
Iowa notables
Chad Greenway 6-2 3/8 240 ran his 40s in a respectable 4.58 and 4.62. He pulled his hamstring and didn't run the shuttles. He also had a 38-inch vertical and did 19 bench press reps.

Thats sad. Never been very high on him but even I wouldn't have expected that.

Phishstix
03-24-2006, 11:31 AM
va tech proday official results are out.

j. williams ran a 4.41, but had only a 33 in vertical, 6.69 3-cone drill, and 12 lifts.

j. lewis & m. vick stood on their combine numbers.

everyone else's numbers are here> http://nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#vatech

Geforce
03-24-2006, 12:06 PM
Good numbers for Maroney. I wonder where he'll end up b/c I think the RB position league wide will be filled in 1rd one. He's not projected to go before l. white & d. williams, and maybe j. addai sneaks ahead of him. So someone may get lucky and snatch him 2nd-3rd.
His numbers were good but, at the moment, some are skeptical about his hamstring injury because is slow to heal. Where he goes depends on what White and Williams do at their Individual workouts in the coming weeks.


Greenway only doing 19 reps is very disappointing. I like everything else about him but if he can't hold up at the point of attack then I'll pass. It's one thing to get out-muscled by lineman, but if you can't handle backs & receiving TEs ...
Greenway is not the strongest but neither was Jason Taylor coming out of college. He can learn, if he doesn't already, to use leverage and angles to offset his lack of strength at the point of attack. Greenway has a lot of intangibles that is difficult to overlook. One plus for him is that he has played both inside and outside LB. I like that kind of versatility.


A. Hodge is a little light for an ILB for my tastes but he can hit! Those reps show he packs a punch, and plus he has a natural motor. If we could get a 2nd somehow I would pull the trigger.
Hodge is about the same size as Zach so that doesn't bother me. The question is, can he hold up in a 3-4 defense for an entire 16 NFL season.

Geforce
03-24-2006, 12:16 PM
va tech proday official results are out.

j. williams ran a 4.41, but had only a 33 in vertical, 6.69 3-cone drill, and 12 lifts.

j. lewis & m. vick stood on their combine numbers.

everyone else's numbers are here> http://nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#vatech
Disappointing. If this is any indication of his work effort during this critical time of the year for draft eligible players, then I'm not so sure I would draft him.
One other thing to consider, and this is far fetched, maybe he's doing this on purpose so that he won't be a high draft pick and end up going to a bad team.

Itsdahumidity
03-24-2006, 12:39 PM
His numbers were good but, at the moment, some are skeptical about his hamstring injury because is slow to heal. Where he goes depends on what White and Williams do at their Individual workouts in the coming weeks.

Didn't know about his injury problems thx.


Greenway is not the strongest but neither was Jason Taylor coming out of college. He can learn, if he doesn't already, to use leverage and angles to offset his lack of strength at the point of attack. Greenway has a lot of intangibles that is difficult to overlook. One plus for him is that he has played both inside and outside LB. I like that kind of versatility.

good point.


Hodge is about the same size as Zach so that doesn't bother me. The question is, can he hold up in a 3-4 defense for an entire 16 NFL season.

He's going to be a good player because of his "want to" attitude.

Geforce
03-25-2006, 11:48 AM
Georgia Pro Day Notables:
Max Jean-Giles 6-3 3/4 343 did 31 reps on the bench press up from the 27 he did at the combine. His weight was also down from 355 because "I went back home (to Miami) and sweated in the damn sun."
Leonard Pope, 6'7" stood on his 4.62 at the combine and only did positional drills.
Greg Blue, 220 ran his 40s in 4.55 and 4.59 and the short shuttle in 4.32.
Demario Minter, 5'11" 185 ran his 40s in 4.48 and 4.53 and the short shuttle in 4.32.

Itsdahumidity
03-27-2006, 10:49 AM
Georgia Pro Day Notables:
Max Jean-Giles 6-3 3/4 343 did 31 reps on the bench press up from the 27 he did at the combine. His weight was also down from 355 because "I went back home (to Miami) and sweated in the damn sun."
Leonard Pope, 6'7" stood on his 4.62 at the combine and only did positional drills.
Greg Blue, 220 ran his 40s in 4.55 and 4.59 and the short shuttle in 4.32.
Demario Minter, 5'11" 185 ran his 40s in 4.48 and 4.53 and the short shuttle in 4.32.

Glad to see Max got his weight down.

Who was a better bulldog Pope or McMike?

I think Blue may fall victim to a numbers game because there are several Safeties rated ahead of him. They can cover a little better although Blue does have the recovery speed you need. He's a big hitter who reminds me of R. Harrison :fire: but didn't make a lot of plays. If he falls ... Hey, every 2ndary needs an intimidator right? As it stands now who's ours?

I would take Cromartie, Richard Marshall or Danieal Manning before selecting Minter. Not to say Minter is a slouch (has great cover skills) but he doesn't come up with enough INTs. We just signed a CB who fits this mold in W. Allen so if Saban can get a better "playmaking prospect" I'll be happy.

Geforce
03-27-2006, 12:50 PM
Who was a better bulldog Pope or McMike?

I think Blue may fall victim to a numbers game because there are several Safeties rated ahead of him. They can cover a little better although Blue does have the recovery speed you need. He's a big hitter who reminds me of R. Harrison :fire: but didn't make a lot of plays. If he falls ... Hey, every 2ndary needs an intimidator right? As it stands now who's ours?

Very good question but I think Pope was due to the fact that he was utilized more and made several All-SEC teams.

As far as our intimidator goes, the closest we have is Renaldo Hill, the newly signed safety from the Raiders.

Itsdahumidity
03-27-2006, 02:06 PM
TE J. Wiggins in '04 was the leader in recs (71) and 3rd in yds (705) plus 4 tds in MIN during Cpep's best year. So McMichael will finally shine!!

I like the Hill pick up but hope we select a young S in the 3rd after we get Lawson in the first of course :D

Itsdahumidity
03-29-2006, 10:49 AM
3/27

Houston

Anthony Amoo DE 5' 11" 3/8, 258 lbs
ran 40s in 5.35 and 5.27

Wow.A Defensive End that short and that slow! If he's even looked at as an un-drafted FA it would be a miracle.

Itsdahumidity
03-30-2006, 12:03 PM
3/29

Grossmont College

Roderkus Wright DE 6' 4" 275 lbs
ran 5.03 and 4.95 in the 40.
short shuttle = 4.70 & had 22 reps.

This guy is a sleeper ... well sort of:
http://www.nextlevelscouting.com/Spotlights/RWright.htm

and this (bottom of page):
http://www.draftstudio.com/underclassmen.htm

Will he be there in the 7th?

Itsdahumidity
04-02-2006, 10:00 AM
4/1

Several Pro Days including:

Minnesota
Anthony Montgomery, DT
Kyle McKenzie, LB
Jared Ellerson, WR
Greg Eslinger, C
Mark Setterstrom, OG

Central Oklahoma
Seymore Shaw, RB

Idaho
D.J. Smith, WR
Eric Davis, DL
Mike Anderson, LB

etc.
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

And don't forget today(4/2):
"Trojan workout tops pro day sked (11:01 AM EST) - Just about anyone who is anyone among personnel people around the NFL will be in Los Angeles later today for the Southern California on-campus workout which could feature the first two players taken at the 2006 draft later this month in RB Reggie Bush and QB Matt Leinart."

I'm interested in
OT Winston Justice
OGs Deuce Lutui and Fred Matua
S Darnell Bing
http://www.gbnreport.com/

I know NFL Net has NFL Europe scheduled at that time but I hope they have cameras there ... anyone know? Anyway, post the results as soon as you get them.

Flyer22
04-02-2006, 10:13 AM
3/29

Grossmont College
They really need to change their name...can't be good for recruiting.

dan the fin
04-02-2006, 12:30 PM
With the numbers Eric Kimble put up, it's make me wonder why he wasn't invited to the combine while Meyers was.
Meyers is a intriging prospect. He was at a big Div 1 program before transfering(Froget wich one though). I saw he play his Jr. year live. I go to school at Siu and they played us in the first round of the playoffs. We were #1 in the country and were winning by like 20 points at halftime and Meyers just killed us in the second half. threw a lot of deep passes looked as if he has good arm strenght.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
04-02-2006, 01:14 PM
i'll be interesting to see the results of the USC pro day.

Geforce
04-02-2006, 01:52 PM
3/29

Grossmont College

Roderkus Wright DE 6' 4" 275 lbs
ran 5.03 and 4.95 in the 40.
short shuttle = 4.70 & had 22 reps.

This guy is a sleeper ... well sort of:
http://www.nextlevelscouting.com/Spotlights/RWright.htm

and this (bottom of page):
http://www.draftstudio.com/underclassmen.htm

Will he be there in the 7th?
Yeah, he'll be there in the 7th. His Pro Day workout didn't help him at all. If he had ran in the 4.65 -4.75 range I think he would have been drafted. Now I'm not so sure he will be.

Geforce
04-02-2006, 01:57 PM
4/1

Several Pro Days including:

Minnesota
Anthony Montgomery, DT
Kyle McKenzie, LB
Jared Ellerson, WR
Greg Eslinger, C
Mark Setterstrom, OG

Central Oklahoma
Seymore Shaw, RB

Idaho
D.J. Smith, WR
Eric Davis, DL
Mike Anderson, LB

etc.
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

These schools did their Pro Days weeks ago.
Minnesota
http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#minn

Central Michigan
http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#cmich
and
Idaho
http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#idaho