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WCUgodsmacked13
03-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Please keep draft threads in the draft forum.

If he falls to us at 16 he would be a steal. He was injured for most of the season and still put up good numbers in a tough conference, with a QB that didn't pull it together until mid season. He has great hands and runs good routes and has speed. I know our needs with QB, and LT and in the secondary and am normally against taking a skill player in the middle of the draft, but he would be a perfect complement to Chambers.

REC 48 | YDS 853 | TD 11

Bartowboy
03-07-2006, 07:06 PM
I agree Homles is a good WR but our holes are to big to be drafting him in the first.

playmaker1
03-07-2006, 07:18 PM
we have way bigger needs. I like him, and I think he will have a big career, but we need O line work and D

Firemedic18
03-07-2006, 07:20 PM
Yeah good player but to many other needs.

wagz
03-07-2006, 07:23 PM
yeah cuz we really need another reciever when we already have a pro bowl reciever and a decent #2

Bartowboy
03-07-2006, 07:29 PM
I think we could use another WR but in the early rounds no.

firestorm
03-07-2006, 07:31 PM
Holmes is a smart player but i prefer chad jackson, in my opinion, i like more this kind of wide receiver... But Miami doesn't need a guy to guy or possesion WR, OL & defense (LB or CB) are more necessary.
Besides Ginn Jr. is better than Holmes. Holmes will need to stay in the adequate offense...

WCUgodsmacked13
03-07-2006, 07:38 PM
i completely agree that there are other positions that need to be the focal point for us this draft, but holmes to way to good to pass up. he is everything that braylon edwards was last season, but doesn't have the droppies on key plays. Holmes will be a star in this league, mark my words on that.

34isback
03-07-2006, 07:38 PM
another D Boston

Lappy
03-07-2006, 07:40 PM
Take the best available PLAYER with every pick. No matter what we need.

WCUgodsmacked13
03-07-2006, 07:42 PM
another D Boston

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what do u mean by that, i don't think holmes is on steroids or has knee problems :sarcasm:

s3an8
03-07-2006, 07:43 PM
if hes there wen we pick we should threatin to take him so a team would trade with us to move up...that would be great...

painnotpleasure
03-07-2006, 07:43 PM
I agree with those who say we have more important needs, I think that he will still be available when we pick and Dallas or Kansas City will be right there if we'd pass on him.

Danny
03-07-2006, 07:45 PM
I think he'll be gone anyway but we do have bigger needs than WR in the first round.

Ozzy rules!!

iamKIP
03-07-2006, 07:55 PM
LOL...LOL...LOL..:sidelol: . It amazes me how people are either naive to the fact or are :cooldude: to the fact that most of these guys are on steroids!:shakeno: ...Hello:eek: !!

DBoston80
03-07-2006, 08:05 PM
Holmes is a smart player but i prefer chad jackson, in my opinion, i like more this kind of wide receiver... But Miami doesn't need a guy to guy or possesion WR, OL & defense (LB or CB) are more necessary.
Besides Ginn Jr. is better than Holmes. Holmes will need to stay in the adequate offense...

Trust me Ginn is NOT better than Holmes!

DBoston80
03-07-2006, 08:08 PM
LOL...LOL...LOL..:sidelol: . It amazes me how people are either naive to the fact or are :cooldude: to the fact that most of these guys are on steroids!:shakeno: ...Hello:eek: !!

Exactly!! I bet some of these guys might not want to believe the truth about Zach...

Fact is steriods in football is a mainstay..always will be.

playmaker1
03-07-2006, 08:37 PM
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what do u mean by that, i don't think holmes is on steroids or has knee problems :sarcasm:

:sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: I think Holmes will be great

musphinzfan
03-07-2006, 09:17 PM
Hopefully Holmes has a good pro day....The Eagles are almost a lock to take 1 (holmes or Jackson)and the other comes to us and we use that as trade leverage there are 4 teams that need a WR behind us.Hopefully 1 wants him badderer.

playmaker1
03-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Hopefully Holmes has a good pro day....The Eagles are almost a lock to take 1 (holmes or Jackson)and the other comes to us and we use that as trade leverage there are 4 teams that need a WR behind us.Hopefully 1 wants him badderer.

that would help us alot. trade down with one of those teams, get an extra pick, maybe taregt Simpson

musphinzfan
03-07-2006, 11:22 PM
that would help us alot. trade down with one of those teams, get an extra pick, maybe taregt Simpson

Absolutely....Maybe not Ko but someone could still fall to us...I am not sure but we do need picks...San diego could be a prime target to trade down with.

playmaker1
03-07-2006, 11:48 PM
Absolutely....Maybe not Ko but someone could still fall to us...I am not sure but we do need picks...San diego could be a prime target to trade down with.

I could see that, they are going to be maybe looking at a WR, so it might work for us

Motion
03-08-2006, 09:08 AM
Rather have Chad Jackson.

Whoever said Ginn is better than Holmes has obviously not seen them play.

musphinzfan
03-08-2006, 11:20 AM
Rather have Chad Jackson.

Whoever said Ginn is better than Holmes has obviously not seen them play.


Wow...Is Holmes that much better?...I have seen the Buckeyes play a few times this year....And Ginn was almost the same person as Holmes except FASTER.

An i am not taking anything from Holmes...I have seen him play well but also seen him dissappear.

All I care is that he runs in the low 4.3's

SackArtist
03-08-2006, 12:20 PM
I've watched a couple of Ohio State games and Ginn is definately better than Holmes. Every time Ginn has the ball I feel like he's going all the way for a TD. Similar to when Reggie Bush has the ball. Holmes is good, I wouldn't mind the Phins drafting him in round 1 :wink: , but he's not that good.

dan the fin
03-08-2006, 12:46 PM
Rather have Chad Jackson.

Whoever said Ginn is better than Holmes has obviously not seen them play.
I am a michigan Fan and I would take Ginn over holmes any time. U can't copare the two Ginns main position out of high school was CB, he is just learning how to be a WR. and he will be a top 5 guy when he enters the Draft. Ginn is another Bush type talent. I hate Ginn because I am a Michigan fan and I get scared every time the ball is in his hands. With Bush out of college, Ginn is the best pure athlete in College right now. He also returns punts and KR and has had TDs every year that was too. It was reported that Ginn also runs thee 40 in less then 4.3. If Ginn was in this draft I would take him at 16 with out a doubt.

Motion
03-08-2006, 01:17 PM
I am a michigan Fan and I would take Ginn over holmes any time. U can't copare the two Ginns main position out of high school was CB, he is just learning how to be a WR. and he will be a top 5 guy when he enters the Draft. Ginn is another Bush type talent. I hate Ginn because I am a Michigan fan and I get scared every time the ball is in his hands. With Bush out of college, Ginn is the best pure athlete in College right now. He also returns punts and KR and has had TDs every year that was too. It was reported that Ginn also runs thee 40 in less then 4.3. If Ginn was in this draft I would take him at 16 with out a doubt.

Very possible. I'm not doubting that one bit. But if we're talking WRs Holmes is better. Ginn is extremely raw and played CB in high school. He needs alot more experience and polishing at the WR position before he can be considered better than Holmes, which I think he will be. But at this point Holmes is the better WR.

firestorm
03-08-2006, 01:54 PM
Rather have Chad Jackson.

Whoever said Ginn is better than Holmes has obviously not seen them play.

I've watched a couple of Buckeyes games this season (vs Michigan, Penn State, Northwestern, Notre Dame...) and, in my opinion, Ginn Jr is an absolute impact player. He's a pure athlete and is one of the few football players in College, nowadays, that has the speed and burst to separate from anyone on the field... Besides, Ginn is still in constantly developing and he played CB in high school that it's very important to his own development...
Holmes is a smart player, but i prefer Ginn. it's a personal taste.:D
And for me, Chad Jackson is the WR most talented in the next Draft but he doesn't have the attention, during the regular season, than Holmes has had. It's my opinion....

Motion
03-08-2006, 01:59 PM
I've watched a couple of Buckeyes games this season (vs Michigan, Penn State, Northwestern, Notre Dame...) and, in my opinion, Ginn Jr is an absolute impact player. He's a pure athlete and is one of the few football players in College, nowadays, that has the speed and burst to separate from anyone on the field... Besides, Ginn is still in constantly developing and he played CB in high school that it's very important to his own development...
Holmes is a smart player, but i prefer Ginn. it's a personal taste.:D
And for me, Chad Jackson is the WR most talented in the next Draft but he doesn't have the attention, during the regular season, than Holmes has had. It's my opinion....

Thats basically what I just said. :confused: