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Finfan14
03-19-2006, 10:31 AM
there is a CB or OL that will be around at #16 that is worth the pick.

It is going to be a Chad Jackson or Santonio Holmes, whoever is there. If both are there it will be Holmes. I actually think Chad Jackson is going to be a major bust in the league like the majority of other soft Gator WR's.

Holmes is a better player.

Alex44
03-19-2006, 10:35 AM
Chad Jackson is going to be a stud, I have 0 doubt about that

He has amazing speed and his hands are like glue

In the skill challenge they fire balls at like 70 mph at you, he reached out and snagged one on his fingertips with one hand....flat out amazing

Id be disapointed if we took Holmes over Jackson, even though I think Holmes is also a very good player

rafael
03-19-2006, 12:06 PM
I don't think it means that Saban thinks a CB or OL is a bad or unworthy pick at 16 in this draft. His philosophy all along has been to take the BPA. Filling in those obvious holes gives him the flexibility to do that. BTW I do like Chad Jackson so I wouldn't complain about the pick. I just don't think we can draw the conclusion that he is the pick based upon Saban's FA pursuits.

Geforce
03-19-2006, 12:22 PM
there is a CB or OL that will be around at #16 that is worth the pick.

It is going to be a Chad Jackson or Santonio Holmes, whoever is there. If both are there it will be Holmes. I actually think Chad Jackson is going to be a major bust in the league like the majority of other soft Gator WR's.

Holmes is a better player.
The difference between Chad Jackson and the other "soft" Gators WRs is that Jackson is over 200 pounds and plays physical while the others are small and speedy types.
One other thing, Saban has seen Jackson play in person.

If you are going to judge a player by the others that came before him, then you can say that Holmes will be a problem child for the team that drafts him.

saves
03-19-2006, 01:11 PM
I love Holmes, but I don't see us taking him over Jackson. He dosn't possess the size that Jackson does and is a similar playing style in my mind to Chambers. If we added a WR I would rather see a contrast in playing styles and thats what Jackson brings to the table.

John Biello
03-19-2006, 01:57 PM
id love to have either of the 2 we need a burner out there. but id much rather go defense. adding a blazing speed type wr is alot of weapons though...

MadLib
03-19-2006, 02:36 PM
Ive just never been impressed with Jackson's production on the field. He's definitely not as physical as some make him out to be on this board. Though his timed speed was impressive i think he's lacking in the football speed department. If we were to pick a reciever in the first (which I seriously doubt we would), theres no doubt i'd grab Holmes. He's a proven playmaker and a threat to score everytime he has the ball.

Boone
03-19-2006, 04:13 PM
I don't think it means that Saban thinks a CB or OL is a bad or unworthy pick at 16 in this draft. His philosophy all along has been to take the BPA. Filling in those obvious holes gives him the flexibility to do that. BTW I do like Chad Jackson so I wouldn't complain about the pick. I just don't think we can draw the conclusion that he is the pick based upon Saban's FA pursuits.
I agree.

byroan
03-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Chad Jackson is much better than Holmes.

Geforce
03-19-2006, 04:30 PM
Ive just never been impressed with Jackson's production on the field. He's definitely not as physical as some make him out to be on this board. Though his timed speed was impressive i think he's lacking in the football speed department. If we were to pick a reciever in the first (which I seriously doubt we would), theres no doubt i'd grab Holmes. He's a proven playmaker and a threat to score everytime he has the ball.
Before Meyers got to Florida I would have agreed with you but Meyers challenged everyone to become tougher and more physical. It is that physical play that allowed Jackson to have an All-SEC season. Hopefully he can continue that physical play in the NFL.

fishbanger
03-19-2006, 09:14 PM
I watched all of Jacksons games last year and he is very consistent and was go to guy on third downs. They did not send him done field as much as the other receivers but he can stretch the field if you need him to. His hands are too good so they run him on a lot of short patterns. He can also go deep if needed.

Our Gators QBs strength was not the deep ball.

Skeet84
03-19-2006, 10:29 PM
I think Chad Jackson is going to be a Superstar! I really hope we can draft him if we are going to draft any WR. However if we draft a Need Position I would be happy however I think a 3rd WR is a huge need! There was no serious 3rd WR last year and with Daunte's arm the deep passing game will be better than ever and Jackson's Speed would be great!

I would not be shocked if we drafted

Ko Simpson
Winston Justice
Chad Jackson
Corner there are sooooo many!

Geforce
03-19-2006, 10:37 PM
Our Gators QBs strength was not the deep ball.
It wasn't that the QBs strength wasn't the deep ball, it was the O-Line inability to block for more than two seconds to allow the deep ball to be thrown with any accuracy.

zodiak
03-19-2006, 11:52 PM
I disagree I feel Saban treats the FA signing period and the draft as two seperate periods.

If he adds lets say a FA CB that to me doesnt mean he feels the draft class is weak he simply may feel that getting a good player now makes more sense then waiting and not knowing positively that he can add that player.
Plus it allows him more flexibility come draft day..if the BPA is again lets say a CB he can now either trade the pick, draft for need, or add depth to that particular position.

Danny
03-20-2006, 02:19 AM
I've been in the Jackson bandwagon for a while now.....I just wanna see an offence with Ronnie, Randy,Booker,CC and Jackson and then Pep back there....you wanna play your safeties up to stop Ronnie? We'll throw the ball....you back off your safeties and we'll run it at you...pick your poison.....with those 3 WR's,TE and Ronnie this offence would be more complete than in the Dan area, not cos Pep is better but the fact that we'd have more balance with Ronnie back there....I think Jackson makes sense but we need to get Lavar or Julian.

Ozzy rules!!

Motion
03-20-2006, 12:21 PM
Ive just never been impressed with Jackson's production on the field. He's definitely not as physical as some make him out to be on this board. Though his timed speed was impressive i think he's lacking in the football speed department. If we were to pick a reciever in the first (which I seriously doubt we would), theres no doubt i'd grab Holmes. He's a proven playmaker and a threat to score everytime he has the ball.


:rolleyes2 Did you watch him at all this past season?????

88 catches for 900 yards and 9 TDs, school record for receptions.

And you question his production?

Motion
03-20-2006, 12:23 PM
there is a CB or OL that will be around at #16 that is worth the pick.

It is going to be a Chad Jackson or Santonio Holmes, whoever is there. If both are there it will be Holmes. I actually think Chad Jackson is going to be a major bust in the league like the majority of other soft Gator WR's.

Holmes is a better player.

Theres nothing soft about Chad Jackson. Stereotype all you want, he's a playmaker, period.

Finfanforever
03-20-2006, 01:05 PM
Theres nothing soft about Chad Jackson. Stereotype all you want, he's a playmaker, period.

Speedrush,

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's our pick in rd 1. I just got a "gut' feeling about this. :wink:

Motion
03-20-2006, 01:10 PM
Speedrush,

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's our pick in rd 1. I just got a "gut' feeling about this. :wink:

I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed with that pick.

dolphin23
03-20-2006, 01:20 PM
I've been saying all along that we need D (cb, lb dt) with our first pick. But with all the free agent signings lately, and if a big if we sign either Petersen or Arrington. Then I definetly see the dolphins picking Holmes or Jackson with our first pick. To complete our offensive weapons, man when I see our Offensive line up next year its looks damn right scary.

playmaker1
03-20-2006, 02:08 PM
I am not for the Dolphins using our first round pick on a WR. BUT, Chad is going to be a stud. He has the size, the speed. What more do you want. I do like Holmes, but due to his size. If you had to call a bust out of the two it would be Holmes

playmaker1
03-20-2006, 02:10 PM
Theres nothing soft about Chad Jackson. Stereotype all you want, he's a playmaker, period.

I agree Speed, I just really would rather the Dolphins go D in the first. But I could see Chad going deep for DC

neuce
03-20-2006, 05:24 PM
Chad Jackson is an incredible NFL wr prospect. To group him in with former Gator players as "soft", is simply ignorant.

finfan54
03-20-2006, 10:09 PM
Nick Saban said we are going to upgrade the QB and OL and make the defense younger. So far, two of those things are almost accomplished. Which one is he leaving for the draft do you think?