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victacious
03-20-2006, 07:46 PM
This means we need to sign peterson Quick.....give him what he wants Saban.....dont' let him talk with the seahawks, cause they have a boat load of money.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 07:53 PM
Saban will make the right choice. I'm sure he (Saban) wants him, but he won't over pay for him.

The draft has some pretty nice OLB if we do lose out on him.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 07:54 PM
Yes, but Walter Jones restructured meaning they are able to (and likely will) match.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 07:57 PM
Yes, but Walter Jones restructured meaning they are able to (and likely will) match.

Seahawks | Lose out on Hutchinson ruling
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:36 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/21">Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune (http://www.kffl.com/link/37), reports "special master" Stephen Burbank ruled against the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) Management Council and the Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) Monday, March 20, in their attempt to match the Minnesota Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl)' offer to OLG Steve Hutchinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1701/nfl) under altered terms. The ruling means the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) have until midnight Tuesday, March 21, to match the Vikings' offer to Hutchinson, or he will become a Viking.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 07:58 PM
Seahawks | Lose out on Hutchinson ruling
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:36 -0800
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/21">Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune (http://www.kffl.com/link/37), reports "special master" Stephen Burbank ruled against the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) Management Council and the Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) Monday, March 20, in their attempt to match the Minnesota Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl)' offer to OLG Steve Hutchinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1701/nfl) under altered terms. The ruling means the Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) have until midnight Tuesday, March 21, to match the Vikings' offer to Hutchinson, or he will become a Viking.

I didnt say you were wrong, but this is a non-issue because they CAN match and not destroy their cap, now that Walter Jones restructured. Mort reported it on the 6 PM Sportscenter.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 08:00 PM
I didnt say you were wrong, but this is a non-issue because they CAN match and not destroy their cap, now that Walter Jones restructured. Mort reported it on the 6 PM Sportscenter.

I wasn't saying you where wrong either.

I believe the Vikes offered Hutchinson something like 13 million for this year. That's quit a big hit for Seattle, also I believe since this ruling came down, Hutch will always have to be paid more than anybody on that o-line... Includung Walter Jones.

or do I have my facts wrong?

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 08:02 PM
I wasn't saying you where wrong either.

I believe the Vikes offered Hutchinson something like 13 million for this year. That's quit a big hit for Seattle, also I believe since this ruling came down, Hutch will always have to be paid more than anybody on that o-line... Includung Walter Jones.

or do I have my facts wrong?

As far as I understand, Seattle has the cap room and is willing to match as long as the clause about him being the highest paid Olineman on the team wasnt an issue- and it isnt, due to the reworking of Jones' contract. So, if they do match, he techincally will be making more than Jones.

DeathStar
03-20-2006, 08:02 PM
Yes, but Walter Jones restructured meaning they are able to (and likely will) match.

all they did was add an 8th year which is voidable to lower the average contract so that jones was under hutchinsons.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 08:03 PM
all they did was add an 8th year which is voidable to lower the average contract so that jones was under hutchinsons.

Precisely.

DeathStar
03-20-2006, 08:05 PM
http://sportsline.com/nfl/story/9324125


But Berthelsen said the decision validated the NFLPA's stance that the conditions at the time Hutchinson signed the offer sheet with the Vikings are the conditions Seattle must match -- meaning Hutchinson wasn't the highest-paid Seahawks linemen then, so Seattle must guarantee all $49 million of the Vikings' deal to match it.
not a chance in hell they will do this deal cause it will be guaranteed 49 million bucks.

he belongs to the vikings now.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 08:06 PM
all they did was add an 8th year which is voidable to lower the average contract so that jones was under hutchinsons.

Understood.

Well to bad for the Vikes then, they can't catch a break this off season. Although it does seem a little underhanded of the Hawks and Jones to do that. I wonder how Hutch feels about them doing that?

He probably doesn't care as long as he gets his $$$

wow, a guard getting paid more than the best LT in the NFL. that doesn't seem right.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 08:07 PM
http://sportsline.com/nfl/story/9324125


not a chance in hell they will do this deal cause it will be guaranteed 49 million bucks.

he belongs to the vikings now.


No- Walter Jones reworked his deal, making Hutchinson the highest paid Olineman on the team, and making it an easy deal to match for the Seahawks.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 08:08 PM
Understood.

Well to bad for the Vikes then, they can't catch a break this off season. Although it does seem a little underhanded of the Hawks and Jones to do that. I wonder how Hutch feels about them doing that?

He probably doesn't care as long as he gets his $$$

wow, a guard getting paid more than the best LT in the NFL. that doesn't seem right.

Apparently, he badly wanted out of Seattle and there could be some trouble along the left side of that line, as he may be somewhat annoyed that Jones reworked this deal forcing him to remain in a situation he didnt want to be in.

DeathStar
03-20-2006, 08:08 PM
Understood.

Well to bad for the Vikes then, they can't catch a break this off season. Although it does seem a little underhanded of the Hawks and Jones to do that. I wonder how Hutch feels about them doing that?

He probably doesn't care as long as he gets his $$$

wow, a guard getting paid more than the best LT in the NFL. that doesn't seem right.

the vikings are the ones that put that in the deal, meaning hawks had no way of matching so they win and get hutchinson.

underhanded...nope. not at all. the deal has 16 million of guarentees in it. the hawks tried to bypass that cluase but failed.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 08:09 PM
No- Walter Jones reworked his deal, making Hutchinson the highest paid Olineman on the team, and making it an easy deal to match for the Seahawks.

All $49 mill including the $13 (or something along these lines) mill this year?

DeathStar
03-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Apparently, he badly wanted out of Seattle and there could be some trouble along the left side of that line, as he may be somewhat annoyed that Jones reworked this deal forcing him to remain in a situation he didnt want to be in.

nope.

he wanted the $$$$$$$$$$.

annoyed....NO.

the hawks tried to bypass the provision. they didn't want to guarantee all 49 million bucks. so they redid hutchinson right before this hearing but that was to no avail cause they lost the ruling.

Spray Mucus
03-20-2006, 08:11 PM
the vikings are the ones that put that in the deal, meaning hawks had no way of matching so they win and get hutchinson.

underhanded...nope. not at all. the deal has 16 million of guarentees in it. the hawks tried to bypass that cluase but failed.

you and dolfan1000 are confusing the hell out of me.

Dolfan1000
03-20-2006, 08:18 PM
The arbitrator's decision doesnt matter, as the fact that he ruled in the Vikings favour does not change the fact that Jones reworked his deal, making Hutchinson the highest paid lineman on the Hawks, and meaning he doesnt have to receive 49 million in guaranteed. The Vikings tried, but failed.

playmaker1
03-20-2006, 08:31 PM
wish we could have signed him, but not for that price

arydolphin
03-20-2006, 09:39 PM
There is so much misinformation in this thread, but if you look at at the espn.com article that is posted right now on their site, they say that the Seahawks have to match the entire contract. The timeline works like this: the Vikings first signed Hutchinson to the offer sheet that included the provision that the ENTIRE contract had to be guaranteed if he wasn't the highest paid O-lineman on the team, which was a problem because WHEN THE OFFER SHEET WAS SIGNED, Walter Jones had a higher average salary than Hutchinson's would be with the offer sheet. AFTER THE OFFER SHEET WAS SIGNED, the Seahawks decided to renegotiate Jones's contract to reduce his average salary under the average salary Hutchinson will get. However, the arbitrator ruled today that the conditions of the offer sheet have to be honored from the time that the offer sheet is signed, instead of from today. In other words, Seattle has to work with the fact that Jones was the highest-paid O-lineman when Hutchinson signed the offer sheet, and the fact that Seattle had Jones renegotiate is really the moot point in all of this.