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SMadison29
03-23-2006, 12:56 AM
Albeit vs the worst team in the NBA but he finally hit a game winner making him 1 for 19 or 20 on such shots. Has he turned the corner? I doubt it.

Prime Time
03-23-2006, 01:09 AM
:up: Yay...LeBron got one.! :up:

King Felix
03-23-2006, 01:15 AM
the team he played doesnt take away from the shot..........the shot was amazing and the other team didnt have anything to do with that.

Alex44
03-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Now if he can do it on a consistant basis he might end up better than Wade

As of now Wade is still the best player from that draft

MikeO
03-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Now if he can do it on a consistant basis he might end up better than Wade

As of now Wade is still the best player from that draft

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GreenMonster
03-23-2006, 01:25 AM
:sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:

I 2nd that..

King Felix
03-23-2006, 01:26 AM
if were goin by clutch anthonys the best.

Prime Time
03-23-2006, 01:27 AM
:sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:

Co-sign...

Section126
03-23-2006, 01:33 AM
if were goin by clutch anthonys the best.


No he's not.

That is this year...that he leads the league in game winners...guess what..Wade is 2 shots behind him.

Overall in their career..Wade has more.

Section126
03-23-2006, 01:34 AM
BTW...to laugh at somebody saying that Wade is the best player from that draft is rather laughable on it's own.

Guess what? it is debatable.

King Felix
03-23-2006, 01:39 AM
just cuz its debatle means its not funny:confused:

dob72
03-23-2006, 01:40 AM
it took lechoke 3 years but he got one

GreenMonster
03-23-2006, 01:47 AM
BTW...to laugh at somebody saying that Wade is the best player from that draft is rather laughable on it's own.

Guess what? it is debatable.

Lebron triple double tonight while Wade 13pts on 3-15 from the field.. Granted it was vs the Bobcats and Pistons..

We can agrue all we want but if I had to put my life on a player right now for the rest of there career, don't think you gonna find to many Wade takers..

dob72
03-23-2006, 01:48 AM
filp was the one who was really clutch he hit the 3 to put it in overtime

dob72
03-23-2006, 01:52 AM
Lebron triple double tonight while Wade 13pts on 3-15 from the field.. Granted it was vs the Bobcats and Pistons..

We can agrue all we want but if I had to put my life on a player right now for the rest of there career, don't think you gonna find to many Wade takers..
i wouldn't put ur life on lechoke never under underestimate the choking ability of lechoke and the cavs

King Felix
03-23-2006, 01:53 AM
filp was the one who was really clutch he hit the 3 to put it in overtime

of course why would u want to give some credit to lebron :smackhead:

Section126
03-23-2006, 02:06 AM
Lebron triple double tonight while Wade 13pts on 3-15 from the field.. Granted it was vs the Bobcats and Pistons..

We can agrue all we want but if I had to put my life on a player right now for the rest of there career, don't think you gonna find to many Wade takers..


You are actually comparing One game on one night? Are you serious?

Tell you what....you put your life on Lebron being a clutch player over Wade...and I guess you will be dead shortly.

Wade is an MVP candidate dude...trust me..there are plenty of takers.

MikeO
03-23-2006, 02:46 AM
You are actually comparing One game on one night? Are you serious?

Tell you what....you put your life on Lebron being a clutch player over Wade...and I guess you will be dead shortly.

Wade is an MVP candidate dude...trust me..there are plenty of takers.

LeBron is a better player. Put Lebron next to Shaq and Lebron would be winning RINGS every year.

Not a knock on Wade, just that Lebron is better. And if you were starting a team tomorrow, and you wouldn't take Lebron over Wade....your nuts!

MikeO
03-23-2006, 02:47 AM
BTW...to laugh at somebody saying that Wade is the best player from that draft is rather laughable on it's own.

Guess what? it is debatable.

Lebron is the BEST player in the league.

No debate!

Alex44
03-23-2006, 02:51 AM
Lebron triple double tonight while Wade 13pts on 3-15 from the field.. Granted it was vs the Bobcats and Pistons..

We can agrue all we want but if I had to put my life on a player right now for the rest of there career, don't think you gonna find to many Wade takers..

So because Wade has a bad day we are basing the rest of his career on this?

Id take Wade, just because he seems to have more desire, and when the game is on the line there isnt a player in the league Id rather have the ball

Lebron is a very good player, but he IS part hype whether you like it or not, of course Lebron is going to score more points with no supporting cast, isnt that the way it should be? The guy with less around him takes the burdon on his shoulders and puts up more points?

Alex44
03-23-2006, 02:52 AM
Lebron is the BEST player in the league.

No debate!

Kobe Bryant is the best player in the league

Followed by Wade

Then Lebron

Then a lot of guys going for #4

dob72
03-23-2006, 03:06 AM
Lebron is the BEST player in the league.

No debate!
lol yeah right he's not even in the top 3 yet

Section126
03-23-2006, 03:17 AM
LeBron is a better player. Put Lebron next to Shaq and Lebron would be winning RINGS every year.

Not a knock on Wade, just that Lebron is better. And if you were starting a team tomorrow, and you wouldn't take Lebron over Wade....your nuts!


Lebron ...rings? Are you serious?

Wade is a winner...Lebron is a loser. End of debate.

Section126
03-23-2006, 03:17 AM
Lebron is the BEST player in the league.

No debate!


Kobe Bryant just laughed out loud and called the cops to pick you up and throw you in a looney bin. :sidelol:

SMadison29
03-23-2006, 03:21 AM
Lebron is the BEST player in the league.

No debate!

Now that's something to :sidelol:

KOBE is the best player in the world.

LeBron & Wade are debateable, stats are pretty identical & Carmelo deserves to be mentioned with those two.

dob72
03-23-2006, 04:11 AM
Now that's something to :sidelol:

KOBE is the best player in the world.

LeBron & Wade are debateable, stats are pretty identical & Carmelo deserves to be mentioned with those two.
there also this guy named nash whos about to win back to back mvps and another one named allen

Alex44
03-23-2006, 04:47 AM
there also this guy named nash whos about to win back to back mvps and another one named allen

Nash is very good, he is one of the guys fighting for the #4 spot on my list

Allen is a very good player but not the same as a Wade/Kobe/Lebron/Nash/Mcgrady/Iverson

HysterikiLL
03-23-2006, 06:46 AM
All I can say is what were Detroit smoking re: Darko. In their credit, they went to the NBA championship anyway :(

Martel
03-23-2006, 07:48 AM
No he's not.

That is this year...that he leads the league in game winners...guess what..Wade is 2 shots behind him.

Overall in their career..Wade has more.


Actually I just heard this stat on ESPN radio on the way home. Melo has the best pct of game winnners for players right now at 9/14. Wade was 5/17 I think. Kobe...7/28. Vince Carter 6/26. McGrady wasn't good either,don't remember the numbers. Oh, Gilbert Arenas 2/10.

Ferretsquig
03-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Player Fgm Fga Fg% Ftm Fta Ast T/O
Carmelo Anthony 10 16 .625 6 8 0 1
Kobe Bryant 7 28 .250 8 9 0 1
Dwyane Wade 6 16 .375 3 5 2 1
LeBron James 2 16 .125 4 8 4 2

criteria:
24 seconds or less on the clock
game is tied or the player's team is down by 1 or 2

Ferretsquig
03-23-2006, 11:37 AM
LeBron is a better player. Put Lebron next to Shaq and Lebron would be winning RINGS every year.

Not a knock on Wade, just that Lebron is better. And if you were starting a team tomorrow, and you wouldn't take Lebron over Wade....your nuts!

No question I'd take Wade. A year ago it was clear that Lebron was superior but Wade has closed the gap. He may never be the rebounder or passer that Lebron is but when it comes to carrying a team, Wade and Kobe stand above the rest. Wade beat the Pistons alone....scoring 17 straight. Thats just something you would never see out of Lebron. Its admirable that he tries to set up his teammates, but he doesnt have the killer desire. Neither Wade or Kobe passes to Flip at the end of the game....the shot is theirs to take.

MikeO
03-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Player Fgm Fga Fg% Ftm Fta Ast T/O
Carmelo Anthony 10 16 .625 6 8 0 1
Kobe Bryant 7 28 .250 8 9 0 1
Dwyane Wade 6 16 .375 3 5 2 1
LeBron James 2 16 .125 4 8 4 2

criteria:
24 seconds or less on the clock
game is tied or the player's team is down by 1 or 2

So we judge who is the best player only in the last 24 seconds of a game? A guy can post a triple double night in and night out but we ignore that and only look at the last 24 seconds? Please......

Section126
03-23-2006, 12:22 PM
So we judge who is the best player only in the last 24 seconds of a game? A guy can post a triple double night in and night out but we ignore that and only look at the last 24 seconds? Please......


Mike...I also agree that Lebron is better than Wade...

BUT NOT MUCH BETTER....like maybe .05% better.....

But it is not even close between Kobe and Lebron.

Kobe Bryant is the clear cut BEST PLAYER in the NBA.

It really isn't close guys.

nick1
03-23-2006, 12:26 PM
you shouldn't need to have a game winner against that team, you should be blowing them out. the Cavs are choking like they did down the stretch last year

Ferretsquig
03-23-2006, 12:30 PM
So we judge who is the best player only in the last 24 seconds of a game? A guy can post a triple double night in and night out but we ignore that and only look at the last 24 seconds? Please......

One stat is just as meaningless as another. If Wade or Kobe put some effort into it they could rack up the numbers and get triple doubles. All they would need to do is put a little less effort into playing defense.

I like the last 24 second stat. Of course it doesnt mean much, but it shows who wants to take the shot at the end and how effective they are. Expand it to the last 2 minutes and there is even a more telling difference, but Pierce dominates that stat so we wont show it :tongue:

Ferretsquig
03-23-2006, 12:33 PM
you shouldn't need to have a game winner against that team

The Bobcats are a good team....dont let that record fool you. They just cant finish games...Felton was tearing it up at the end of the game against the Cavs, but in most games they dissapear down the stretch. They have all the pieces to be a good team, all thats missing is a scorer. Morrison perhaps?

nick1
03-23-2006, 10:32 PM
The Bobcats are a good team....dont let that record fool you. They just cant finish games...Felton was tearing it up at the end of the game against the Cavs, but in most games they dissapear down the stretch. They have all the pieces to be a good team, all thats missing is a scorer. Morrison perhaps?
they need Okafur to get healthy

Alex44
03-23-2006, 10:35 PM
So we judge who is the best player only in the last 24 seconds of a game? A guy can post a triple double night in and night out but we ignore that and only look at the last 24 seconds? Please......

No but put it this way

I say I will give you one of two guys, they both are great players with very comparable stats, however one guy is clutch the other isnt, who do you chose

Buddwalk
03-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Albeit vs the worst team in the NBA but he finally hit a game winner making him 1 for 19 or 20 on such shots. Has he turned the corner? I doubt it.

Everything else he does on the court is simply amazing though...only knack on him is his pressure situation shots really. Congrats to lebron, maybe it'll spark something under him

Buddwalk
03-23-2006, 10:44 PM
The Bobcats are a good team....dont let that record fool you. They just cant finish games...Felton was tearing it up at the end of the game against the Cavs, but in most games they dissapear down the stretch. They have all the pieces to be a good team, all thats missing is a scorer. Morrison perhaps?

:yeahthat:

Helps with sean may and okafor have been gone from the starting lineup for the past 40+ games. Next year this is a team that with a good coach maybe tubby smith and a good scorer possibly adam morrison could be making a surprise playoff run.

Starting lineup next year
PG Brevin Knight
SG Adam Morrison
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Emeka Okafor
C Primoz Brezic
Bench - Raymond Felton
Bench - Sean May
Bench - Melvin Ely

King Felix
03-24-2006, 01:01 AM
well with wade and shaq they should never need a gm shot.....lebron by himself has just as many gm shots without shaq.

Prime Time
03-24-2006, 01:11 AM
Mike...I also agree that Lebron is better than Wade...

BUT NOT MUCH BETTER....like maybe .05% better.....

But it is not even close between Kobe and Lebron.

Kobe Bryant is the clear cut BEST PLAYER in the NBA.

It really isn't close guys.


:yes: Completely agree...

MikeO
03-24-2006, 01:17 AM
No but put it this way

I say I will give you one of two guys, they both are great players with very comparable stats, however one guy is clutch the other isnt, who do you chose

the whole "clutch" thing is in the eye of the beholder. It's overrated. I want the BEST player.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-24-2006, 01:39 AM
All I can say is what were Detroit smoking re: Darko. In their credit, they went to the NBA championship anyway :(
i love that darko has a ring.

SMadison29
03-24-2006, 01:58 AM
I think. Kobe...7/28.

That's completely wrong. Kobe has hit a lot more than 7 game winning shots, maybe in one year. He probably has that alone in the playoffs.

dob72
03-24-2006, 01:59 AM
the whole "clutch" thing is in the eye of the beholder. It's overrated. I want the BEST player.
so u would want peyton over brady

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-24-2006, 02:13 AM
so u would want peyton over brady
brady is better than manning regardless of clutch ability.

SMadison29
03-24-2006, 02:14 AM
Game 4 of the finals vs Indiana
May 11, 2000 vs Phoenix
Feb 23, 2002 vs Charlotte
Apr 7, 2003 vs Phoenix
Dec 20, 2003 vs Denver
last game of 2004 vs Portland
Nov 2, 2005 vs Denver
Jan 7, 2006 vs LA Clippers
Jan 13, 2006 vs Cleveland

That's 9 just by doing a search. I would guesstimate that Kobe has about 30-40 game winners including the playoffs.

MikeO
03-24-2006, 02:15 AM
so u would want peyton over brady

As long as the SUPPORTING cast isn't the Pats yes.

If I am the GM of a team OTHER than NE, I am taking Peyton. And if anyone says otherwise is a fool!

MikeO
03-24-2006, 02:16 AM
brady is better than manning regardless of clutch ability.



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King Felix
03-24-2006, 02:21 AM
brady is better than manning regardless of clutch ability.

49 touchdowns horrible:rolleyes2

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