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kpcane
03-26-2006, 10:44 PM
I'll give the first 16 picks...I don't really care about the second half of the first round, so here it is.

Texans - Reggie Bush

Saints - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Mario Williams is also an option here, I think Ferguson fills a bigger need though)

Titans - Matt Leinart (Cutler also an option, but I think Chow will override Fisher here)

Jets - Jay Cutler

Packers - A.J. Hawk (Williams is also an option here, but once again, Hawk fills a bigger need if he can play LOLB)

49ers - Vernon Davis (Alex Smith needs some weapons if the niners are going to do anything soon. They have a ton of holes, but Davis is the best available here)

Raiders - Mario Williams (Al Davis would be ecstatic if Williams fell, giving Derrick Burgess a tremendous complement, and giving the Raiders the best pass rush in the league)

Bills - Haloti Ngata

Lions - Michael Huff

Cardinals - Vince Young

Rams - Jimmy Williams

Browns - Tamba Hali

Ravens - Chad Greenway (I know this now seems like a reach, and this isn't a typical Billick pick. But Greenway has great instincts, and Billick knows how valuable a LB with great instincts is)

Eagles - Santonio Holmes (screw the combine, this guy is still the top WR in the draft)

Broncos - Chad Jackson

Dolphins - Manny Lawson (this is assuming we don't land Arrington. If we did, this pick could range from Winston Justice to Ko Simpson)


thoughts??

TotoreMexico
03-26-2006, 11:04 PM
The broncos are going to take a Wr (chad jackson could be their pick)

motioncityhifi
03-26-2006, 11:05 PM
i think thats to high for Hali.

cportis26
03-26-2006, 11:14 PM
Broncos - Tye Hill


Congrats on nailing the 1 position Denver won't take in the 1st round. Try Bunkley in that spot.

RunRickyRun34
03-27-2006, 12:08 AM
Mario Williams won't drop that far
Jimmy Williams' stock has dropped a lot ever since his pro-day (most scouts feel he's in the 20-25 range now)
Way too early for Hali, Browns are aiming for Bunkley who should be available, and if he isn't they like Wimbley a lot
Ravens also wouldn't pass up on Bunkley if he fell, which he won't, they like both Bunkley and Justice a lot and will probably go Justice if he is there
Eagles are very high on Reggie Brown and are looking to go LB/DL in the draft
Broncos won't take Hill, they already took two CB's last year and they traded up for a reason

dolphinsfan69
03-27-2006, 12:13 AM
Mario Williams won't drop that far
Jimmy Williams' stock has dropped a lot ever since his pro-day (most scouts feel he's in the 20-25 range now)
Way too early for Hali, Browns are aiming for Bunkley who should be available, and if he isn't they like Wimbley a lot
Ravens also wouldn't pass up on Bunkley if he fell, which he won't, they like both Bunkley and Justice a lot and will probably go Justice if he is there
Eagles are very high on Reggie Brown and are looking to go LB/DL in the draft
Broncos won't take Hill, they already took two CB's last year and they traded up for a reason

Jimmy Williams is NOT expected to go in the 20-25 range. He's expected to go in the 11-18 or so range.

Oaklandraider
03-27-2006, 12:15 AM
i love this mock i hope it happends.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
03-27-2006, 12:23 AM
Congrats on nailing the 1 position Denver won't take in the 1st round. Try Bunkley in that spot.
yeah i don't think anyone needs to draft a CB less than denver.

Jimmy Williams is NOT expected to go in the 20-25 range. He's expected to go in the 11-18 or so range.
actually he is expected to go 20-25. he's dropping hard.

RunRickyRun34
03-27-2006, 12:29 AM
Jimmy Williams is NOT expected to go in the 20-25 range. He's expected to go in the 11-18 or so range.

You might be thinking about the Jimmy Williams pre pro-day, but after his pro-day his stock has dropped a lot.

Obviously there is always a team that might reach on a player (like Denver with Clarett) If the Dolphins were to pick him up I wouldn't complain.

Williams has the size and the speed but he lacks explosion and strength (he did very poorly on the jumping/bench/shuttle drills) and according to a lot of people he has a poor attitude.

And according to SportingNews there was a lot of talk that some teams have crossed him off their boards.

cportis26
03-27-2006, 12:49 AM
Broncos won't take Hill, they already took two CB's last year and they traded up for a reason

You read too much into it at this point. There is still 4 weeks until the draft, way too much can happen between now and then. Denver walked into a great deal and took it. There's probably a really good chance they move back down on draft day if no one slips, because most of their targets will probably be available through the mid-20s.

kpcane
03-27-2006, 01:37 AM
Everyone: I don't recognize any of the Broncos CB's except Bailey, but if everyone is saying that they don't need a CB, I'll take your word for it.
I know they liked Darius Watts more than Jerry Rice, so I still have a hard time seeing them go WR, but Rod Smith is getting up there, so I'll pick Chad Jackson for them, even though I don't feel good about it.

A couple of you mentioned Jimmy Williams...I see him climbing back up, because he's the most talented of the DB's. I'll stick with him for now.

Some mentioned Hali as well. As of right now I see him going to the Browns. I'll do another one later, but this is how I see things going for now.

cportis26
03-27-2006, 08:46 AM
Everyone: I don't recognize any of the Broncos CB's except Bailey, but if everyone is saying that they don't need a CB, I'll take your word for it.
I know they liked Darius Watts more than Jerry Rice, so I still have a hard time seeing them go WR, but Rod Smith is getting up there, so I'll pick Chad Jackson for them, even though I don't feel good about it.


No, not Chad Jackson. They'd take Bunkley in that spot, DT is even thinner than WR.

playmaker1
03-27-2006, 01:31 PM
You read too much into it at this point. There is still 4 weeks until the draft, way too much can happen between now and then. Denver walked into a great deal and took it. There's probably a really good chance they move back down on draft day if no one slips, because most of their targets will probably be available through the mid-20s.

why would they trade up only to trade back down? Doesn't make much sence. They moved up there to grab a WR. They knew what they were doing

Mile High Fin
03-27-2006, 01:38 PM
why would they trade up only to trade back down? Doesn't make much sence. They moved up there to grab a WR. They knew what they were doing


You assume it was Denver seeking out a "trade up".....

Actually, the reverse was the case here.
The NYJ seeked Denver out to do the trade (so they could move Abraham to Atl).
Denver just simply got offered a "too good to pass up" deal, and took it.

If it makes sense for them to trade down, they'll do it. If it makes sense for them to stay put, they will, and take BPA (Bunkley/Jackson/etc).

playmaker1
03-27-2006, 01:44 PM
You assume it was Denver seeking out a "trade up".....

Actually, the reverse was the case here.
The NYJ seeked Denver out to do the trade (so they could move Abraham to Atl).
Denver just simply got offered a "too good to pass up" deal, and took it.

If it makes sense for them to trade down, they'll do it. If it makes sense for them to stay put, they will, and take BPA (Bunkley/Jackson/etc).

they had two first rounds picks. They were in good shape. They took this move because they wanted to go up.

kpcane
03-27-2006, 07:02 PM
No, not Chad Jackson. They'd take Bunkley in that spot, DT is even thinner than WR.

Hey buddy, if you want to make a mock draft make one. I took the advice that everyone gave and I changed the Broncos pick, ok?

kpcane
03-27-2006, 07:03 PM
By the way, for my next mock draft I'm not going to have the Jets taking a QB. Because it would change this entire mock draft, I'll just leave this one the way it is, and change the next one.

cportis26
03-27-2006, 11:03 PM
Hey buddy, if you want to make a mock draft make one. I took the advice that everyone gave and I changed the Broncos pick, ok?

Good for you. Of course I'm actually a Broncos fan, so I think I know a little more about their needs than Dolphins fans who are convinced Denver traded up to get ahead of them for Chad Jackson.

cportis26
03-27-2006, 11:10 PM
they had two first rounds picks. They were in good shape. They took this move because they wanted to go up.

Have you checked the draft trade charts? I hate to refer to it because I think too many fans are rely too much on it when it comes to trades, but it's still roughly a good indicator of how realistic a trade is. Denver received a completely lopsided trade in their favor to move up. A 3rd and a future 4th is nothing to jump up about halfway in the 1st round. Of course they wanted to move up, they got a deal so heavily titled int their favor they couldn't say no. They could move down to the low 20's on draft day and come out with more than what they gave up to get the pick from Atlanta. They moved up 5 weeks out. Why would they tip their hand if there was a specific player they were interested in? There's plenty of time for a leak. Miami could move in front of the Broncos if Chad Jackson really is Denver's choice and the 'Fins want him too.

Denver's going to look for someone slated to go from around 10-12 that slips. Someone always falls on draft that no one expects to. If that guy fills a need for Denver, they'll take him. In this mock, it was Bunkley. If there's no one there that slips, there's probably a good chance they'll trade back down.

kpcane
03-27-2006, 11:31 PM
Good for you. Of course I'm actually a Broncos fan, so I think I know a little more about their needs than Dolphins fans who are convinced Denver traded up to get ahead of them for Chad Jackson.

Funny you say "good for you" when you're the only one who is talking so matter-of-factly around here. You know I'm a Dolphins fan, but I'm not going to act like I'm the only one who knows who they could ever draft...especially when the majority of mock drafts actually has Chad Jackson.

cportis26
03-27-2006, 11:48 PM
You know I'm a Dolphins fan, but I'm not going to act like I'm the only one who knows who they could ever draft...especially when the majority of mock drafts actually has Chad Jackson.

Well if you want to get technical about what mock drafts have teams taking what, just about none of them have Bunkley dropping out of the top 12 or 13 picks. There's a big reason why some those mock drafts might think Denver might take Chad Jackson in that spot, Bunkley simply isn't available when they pick. The other is that most people continue to repeat this mantra that Denver has nothing at WR. It's not their deepest position, but it sure is hell is not an absolute must address in the 1st round when they have bigger issues at DT, DE, and S. You had someone in your mock who shouldn't have been available when Denver picked at a position that they need more than WR, that's why they take him.

playmaker1
03-28-2006, 02:34 AM
Have you checked the draft trade charts? I hate to refer to it because I think too many fans are rely too much on it when it comes to trades, but it's still roughly a good indicator of how realistic a trade is. Denver received a completely lopsided trade in their favor to move up. A 3rd and a future 4th is nothing to jump up about halfway in the 1st round. Of course they wanted to move up, they got a deal so heavily titled int their favor they couldn't say no. They could move down to the low 20's on draft day and come out with more than what they gave up to get the pick from Atlanta. They moved up 5 weeks out. Why would they tip their hand if there was a specific player they were interested in? There's plenty of time for a leak. Miami could move in front of the Broncos if Chad Jackson really is Denver's choice and the 'Fins want him too.

Denver's going to look for someone slated to go from around 10-12 that slips. Someone always falls on draft that no one expects to. If that guy fills a need for Denver, they'll take him. In this mock, it was Bunkley. If there's no one there that slips, there's probably a good chance they'll trade back down.

Yes, I know the draft trades. I dont just make post to make posts. Denver traded up for a reason. THey are targeting certain players. Thats what teams do going into the draft. Might not be one guy, but they have their eye on a few. And they moved in front of a few teams. They know what other teams are looking for. They didn't move up "looking for someone to slip". This is just a mock. Oh, and I don't see Maimi no playing leap frog to move in front of them. Not worth what it would take.

playmaker1
03-28-2006, 02:36 AM
Well if you want to get technical about what mock drafts have teams taking what, just about none of them have Bunkley dropping out of the top 12 or 13 picks. There's a big reason why some those mock drafts might think Denver might take Chad Jackson in that spot, Bunkley simply isn't available when they pick. The other is that most people continue to repeat this mantra that Denver has nothing at WR. It's not their deepest position, but it sure is hell is not an absolute must address in the 1st round when they have bigger issues at DT, DE, and S. You had someone in your mock who shouldn't have been available when Denver picked at a position that they need more than WR, that's why they take him.

thank you draft guru. No one here knew anything til you were so kind as to come in and share :shakeno: