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ShuggieOtis
03-27-2006, 10:25 PM
Watch out Eastern Conference!

King Felix
03-28-2006, 12:08 AM
:lol: 4th best team in the eastern.

Buddwalk
03-28-2006, 12:28 AM
:lol: 4th best team in the eastern.


When there big 3 is playing good...there easily the best team in the eastern imo...Jason Kidd shutting out steve nash tonight for no points

Ferretsquig
03-28-2006, 12:39 AM
The big three are good, but you just cant win in the playoffs these days with a frontcourt of Krstic, Collins and Cliff. They just get eaten alive by the bigs in Miami and Detroit.

ShuggieOtis
03-28-2006, 03:34 AM
:lol: 4th best team in the eastern.

4th? Detroit, Miami.............no other eastern team has proven they are better then us, Cleveland? NJ owns them.

It's the Big 4 now btw...Krstic is a BEAST

Section126
03-28-2006, 01:30 PM
4th? Detroit, Miami.............no other eastern team has proven they are better then us, Cleveland? NJ owns them.

It's the Big 4 now btw...Krstic is a BEAST


ahhh. NO.

NJFINSFAN1
03-28-2006, 02:03 PM
When there big 3 is playing good...there easily the best team in the eastern imo...Jason Kidd shutting out steve nash tonight for no points

The biggest player during this streak has been Krstic! The guy is averaging 17 points 8 rebounds a game during the streak. Did you see the moves he put on Ben Wallace the other night!:eek:

This kid is getting better and better!

MARINO1384
03-28-2006, 06:13 PM
The biggest player during this streak has been Krstic! The guy is averaging 17 points 8 rebounds a game during the streak. Did you see the moves he put on Ben Wallace the other night!:eek:

This kid is getting better and better!

Yes Krstic is getting very good. When the big three are playing well they are unstoppable. And if you don't think they can make it in the playoffs then tell that to them and i'm sure they'll come up big. It doesn't matter if thier frontcourt isn't "talented" compared to the heat or pistons because when it comes down to game time with Vince,Kidd and Jefferson there gonna make the whole team better.

NJFINSFAN1
03-28-2006, 08:10 PM
Yes Krstic is getting very good. When the big three are playing well they are unstoppable. And if you don't think they can make it in the playoffs then tell that to them and i'm sure they'll come up big. It doesn't matter if thier frontcourt isn't "talented" compared to the heat or pistons because when it comes down to game time with Vince,Kidd and Jefferson there gonna make the whole team better.

I have been to 10 games this year, big Net fan.

As good as the big three play, Krstic is the key. He has had two great games in a row against Ben Wallace. And the Heat losing Mourning will hurt, because Collins tends to bang away at Shaq, leaving Krstic free.

They just need to keep the tempo they are playing.

Buddwalk
03-28-2006, 08:17 PM
ahhh. NO.


Yours a heats homer bro...its ok to accept that when the nets are on there game there the better team :wink:

Prime
03-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Teams better watch out because the Nets are on the rise. They have beat some very tough teams and I think the win on the road against the Pistons is what got their mojo kicking in. Too bad I can't say the same about my Rockets.

NJFINSFAN1
03-28-2006, 08:31 PM
Teams better watch out because the Nets are on the rise. They have beat some very tough teams and I think the win on the road against the Pistons is what got their mojo kicking in. Too bad I can't say the same about my Rockets.

You see what they did to the Suns and Nash last night!:eek:

Buddwalk
03-28-2006, 08:33 PM
You see what they did to the Suns and Nash last night!:eek:


Kidd shut nash down 100% :yes:


Vince Carter is also playing lights out

NJFINSFAN1
03-28-2006, 08:34 PM
Kidd shut nash down 100% :yes:


Vince Carter is also playing lights out

Krstic is the key!!!:wink:

Jefferson has been a force also, rebounding and scoring!

Section126
03-28-2006, 08:42 PM
Yours a heats homer bro...its ok to accept that when the nets are on there game there the better team :wink:


What about the Heat on their Game?

The Nets aren't even close....

wow...maybe they can win one or two games against us this time.


The PLAYOFFS are a VERY different animal guys.





BTW...isn't it funny how quickly everybody forgets that the Nets were the hottest team in Basketball LAST YEAR in March and April....the Heat was stumbling around...some sports writers started writing that the Nets would beat Miami...

Then they played. 4-0 Heat.

People really have short memories.

Prime
03-28-2006, 08:59 PM
You see what they did to the Suns and Nash last night!:eek:



Sure did. They flat out killed them. You know you are good when you shutout both Nash and Stoudemire. Plus the fact that the Suns shooting percentage was like 28 percent or something like that.

Buddwalk
03-28-2006, 09:03 PM
What about the Heat on their Game?

The Nets aren't even close....

wow...maybe they can win one or two games against us this time.


The PLAYOFFS are a VERY different animal guys.





BTW...isn't it funny how quickly everybody forgets that the Nets were the hottest team in Basketball LAST YEAR in March and April....the Heat was stumbling around...some sports writers started writing that the Nets would beat Miami...

Then they played. 4-0 Heat.

People really have short memories.


Your a heat homer, enough said

Last year jefferson was injured so when the playoffs came he was out of rhythm, and vince carter and kidd didnt form a connection on the court...this year is much much different

Section126
03-28-2006, 11:01 PM
Your a heat homer, enough said

Last year jefferson was injured so when the playoffs came he was out of rhythm, and vince carter and kidd didnt form a connection on the court...this year is much much different


and you are a heat hater, enough said.

facts are facts. The Nets were the hottest team in the NBA last season in March and April....and they GOT SMASHED by the Heat.

and yes...this year is different...SHAQ is actually HEALTHY...

oh...did you forget that the Heat smashed them in 4 with a hobbled Shaq?

short memories...short memories.

Section126
03-29-2006, 02:02 AM
Right on cue....The Bucks beat the Suns 132 to 110...

So are we gonna start putting the Bucks in the finals too?

The Suns are really playing like crap right now.

nyjunc
03-29-2006, 07:35 AM
:lol: 4th best team in the eastern.

At least 3rd and they are not behind by much from the other 2. They hgave had a jeckly and hyde season where they look great for strethes then awful immediately after. They need to keep this play up into the playoffs and they'll be a major threat to at least make the East Finals and possibly win the East.

nyjunc
03-29-2006, 07:36 AM
Right on cue....The Bucks beat the Suns 132 to 110...

So are we gonna start putting the Bucks in the finals too?

The Suns are really playing like crap right now.

What about beating Detroit at Detroit? That doesn't count?

Buddwalk
03-29-2006, 08:13 AM
and you are a heat hater, enough said.

facts are facts. The Nets were the hottest team in the NBA last season in March and April....and they GOT SMASHED by the Heat.

and yes...this year is different...SHAQ is actually HEALTHY...

oh...did you forget that the Heat smashed them in 4 with a hobbled Shaq?

short memories...short memories.


Jefferson is healthy, kirstic is experienced, kidd is playing his best ball ever, and vince carter has formed a connectivity with all the players on the court something he didnt have last year. The nets are a better team then the heat man face it

nyjunc
03-29-2006, 08:44 AM
Jefferson is healthy, kirstic is experienced, kidd is playing his best ball ever, and vince carter has formed a connectivity with all the players on the court something he didnt have last year. The nets are a better team then the heat man face it

I don't know if Kidd is playing his best ever but a major key to the Nets success has been that Kidd is completely healthy for the first time in about 3 years.

Section126
03-29-2006, 12:17 PM
Jefferson is healthy, kirstic is experienced, kidd is playing his best ball ever, and vince carter has formed a connectivity with all the players on the court something he didnt have last year. The nets are a better team then the heat man face it


I hope you are kidding. because nobody in their right mind would say that the Nets are better than the Heat.

Remember....4-0.

short memories...short memories.

Ferretsquig
03-29-2006, 12:44 PM
Jefferson is healthy, kirstic is experienced, kidd is playing his best ball ever, and vince carter has formed a connectivity with all the players on the court something he didnt have last year. The nets are a better team then the heat man face it

Mabey for a few days in March. When they meet in the playoffs its another sweep...of course they will struggle just to get past the Pacers. The only chance the Nets have against a team like Miami is if all three of their guys are hitting a high percentage of their jumpers. Krstic wont be able to get anything inside, Collins doesnt even try....so essentially the best paint player the Nets have is Carter, provided of course hes in the mood to play.

Slow the game down and feed the big man....what happens when Collins picks up his second foul? Is Clifford Robinson supposed to guard O'Neal?

Section126
03-29-2006, 12:59 PM
What about beating Detroit at Detroit? That doesn't count?


regular season games don't mean jack.

What matters is your final record.

The Knicks and Hawks also beat the Pistons.

The Nets were a team I was touting before the season when it looked like they were gonna get some bangers down low....of course...they didn't...and still have a bunch of stiffs in their front line...so they are Playoff toast.

Different game in the playoffs guys...

like I said...short memories...short memories..

NJFINSFAN1
03-29-2006, 04:10 PM
What about beating Detroit at Detroit? That doesn't count?

He only looks thru Heat colored glasses.

Buddwalk
03-29-2006, 04:25 PM
He only looks thru Heat colored glasses.

:yeahthat:

MARINO1384
03-29-2006, 05:07 PM
I hope you are kidding. because nobody in their right mind would say that the Nets are better than the Heat.

Remember....4-0.

short memories...short memories.

Remember......THAT WAS LAST YEAR!!!

Section126
03-29-2006, 05:53 PM
Remember......THAT WAS LAST YEAR!!!


Read the thread....I am pointing out the similarities to what happened last year.

Section126
03-29-2006, 05:54 PM
He only looks thru Heat colored glasses.


So...how many games are you guys going to win this time around? One? Two games tops?

Get real.

It is Detroit and Miami...and everybody else in the east is wasting their time.

Buddwalk
03-29-2006, 07:00 PM
So...how many games are you guys going to win this time around? One? Two games tops?

Get real.

It is Detroit and Miami...and everybody else in the east is wasting their time.


Dude your probobly the most biased person for one team ever

As long as lebron james is breathing cleveland will be a force in the playoffs...not saying there going to do anything but they will not be overlooked especially by a team like the heat

The bucks have michael redd shooting lights out as of late and andrew bogut is actually playing better and better lately. TJ Ford has been solid all year...thats a team that could surprise in the playoffs

As far as im concearned if the nets big three doesnt play good, there not gonna do anything...but if those guys are on in the playoffs its going to be hard to stop them

Even the heat are a great team, but using a injured shaq as an excuse is just weak bro. The nets were not connecting in the playoffs and you know it. There a different team and you know this as well...your just afraid to admit it. The heat however like I said are a great team

The pistons are the team that automatically is going to be in the semis, just based on there starting lineup and depth, there the team to beat in the East

NJFINSFAN1
03-29-2006, 09:06 PM
So...how many games are you guys going to win this time around? One? Two games tops?

Get real.

It is Detroit and Miami...and everybody else in the east is wasting their time.

I don't live in the past, I live in the now!:wink:

Section126
03-29-2006, 11:45 PM
I don't live in the past, I live in the now!:wink:


So you say...two games then...

I'll take it...4-2 Heat is about right....:wink:

Section126
03-29-2006, 11:50 PM
Dude your probobly the most biased person for one team ever

As long as lebron james is breathing cleveland will be a force in the playoffs...not saying there going to do anything but they will not be overlooked especially by a team like the heat

The bucks have michael redd shooting lights out as of late and andrew bogut is actually playing better and better lately. TJ Ford has been solid all year...thats a team that could surprise in the playoffs

As far as im concearned if the nets big three doesnt play good, there not gonna do anything...but if those guys are on in the playoffs its going to be hard to stop them

Even the heat are a great team, but using a injured shaq as an excuse is just weak bro. The nets were not connecting in the playoffs and you know it. There a different team and you know this as well...your just afraid to admit it. The heat however like I said are a great team

The pistons are the team that automatically is going to be in the semis, just based on there starting lineup and depth, there the team to beat in the East

Trust me...Cleveland is especially overlooked by the Heat...

The last time they came into Miami talking a bunch of trash...Lebron even said that it was s staetment game and "There is no way they will roll over us."

Well...Riley put on the chalk board "Show them what to expect."

The Heat won by 35 points or so and at one time where up by 40...

The east has been settled...it will be a 7 game series between Detroit and Miami....again....and just like last year..it will come down to the wire.

nyjunc
03-30-2006, 09:56 AM
regular season games don't mean jack.

What matters is your final record.

The Knicks and Hawks also beat the Pistons.

The Nets were a team I was touting before the season when it looked like they were gonna get some bangers down low....of course...they didn't...and still have a bunch of stiffs in their front line...so they are Playoff toast.

Different game in the playoffs guys...

like I said...short memories...short memories..

They mean jack when, like last yar, the Heat have struggled migtiliy against the top teams while beating up on the bad teams.

The Nets ahve been playing great basketball and they have beaten Det on the road, Dallas and Phoenix teams which the Heat have combined to go 1-6 against this year.

Section126
03-30-2006, 02:27 PM
They mean jack when, like last yar, the Heat have struggled migtiliy against the top teams while beating up on the bad teams.

The Nets ahve been playing great basketball and they have beaten Det on the road, Dallas and Phoenix teams which the Heat have combined to go 1-6 against this year.


and of course...that will mean jack when the Heat smashes the Nets again.

Like I said...the Knicks beat Detroit...and Atlanta beat San Antonio...what exactly does that mean?

I'll give you one more to think about.

The Heat after playing 42 games had only had their starting lineup play 11 games together.....the had Shaq out for 18 games in the beginning of the season...Wade has missed half a dozen games...J-Will missed a dozen games...Posey missed a dozen.....Zo is now out...

And they will in excess of 55 games most likely.

That tells you something.

Ferretsquig
03-30-2006, 03:02 PM
Well might as well give the NY fans some hope....they like to become nets followers when the Knicks are tanking it. You just have to survive the month when their team is actually winning a few games....they will dissapear again after they get slaughtered in the playoffs. To think the Nets could win more than one game against the Heat or Pistons is just the hopefull fan's delusion.

NJFINSFAN1
03-30-2006, 03:06 PM
Well might as well give the NY fans some hope....they like to become nets followers when the Knicks are tanking it.


:confused: Been a net fan since the old ABA Teaneck Armory days. (Which was 10 miles down on the same road I grew up on)

Have always hated the knicks!:tantrum:

King Felix
03-30-2006, 04:21 PM
and of course...that will mean jack when the Heat smashes the Nets again.

Like I said...the Knicks beat Detroit...and Atlanta beat San Antonio...what exactly does that mean?

I'll give you one more to think about.

The Heat after playing 42 games had only had their starting lineup play 11 games together.....the had Shaq out for 18 games in the beginning of the season...Wade has missed half a dozen games...J-Will missed a dozen games...Posey missed a dozen.....Zo is now out...

And they will in excess of 55 games most likely.

That tells you something.

tells us, your gonna have an excuse.

Section126
03-30-2006, 04:59 PM
tells us, your gonna have an excuse.


An excuse for what?

I am telling you what happened last year and how the same exact thing is happening again...and THE SAME people are saying the same crap.

short memories.


Alot of heat haters on this board.

NJFINSFAN1
03-30-2006, 05:15 PM
An excuse for what?

I am telling you what happened last year and how the same exact thing is happening again...and THE SAME people are saying the same crap.

short memories.


Alot of heat haters on this board.

That's where your wrong my friend, I give the Heat tons of respect. You never give any other teams any!:wink:

Do I think the Heat beat the Nets this year? NO! But I can't guarantee it.

But you trash talk all the other teams.

Buddwalk
03-30-2006, 05:16 PM
That's where your wrong my friend, I give the Heat tons of respect. You never give any other teams any!:wink:

Do I think the Heat beat the Nets this year? NO! But I can't guarantee it.

But you trash talk all the other teams.

:yeahthat:

Section126
03-30-2006, 05:17 PM
That's where your wrong my friend, I give the Heat tons of respect. You never give any other teams any!:wink:

Do I think the Heat beat the Nets this year? NO! But I can't guarantee it.

But you trash talk all the other teams.


Not true.....

You actually think the Nets have a chance against the Heat in the playoffs? :sidelol:

King Felix
03-30-2006, 05:19 PM
Not true.....

You actually think the Nets have a chance against the Heat in the playoffs? :sidelol:
u just contradicted urself

NJFINSFAN1
03-30-2006, 05:19 PM
Not true.....

You actually think the Nets have a chance against the Heat in the playoffs? :sidelol:

Like I said, I take what you say with a grain of salt, until at least you take your heat glasses off.:wink:

Section126
03-30-2006, 05:30 PM
u just contradicted urself


No I didn't.

I respect the Mavs, Pistons, Spurs, and Suns, Plenty...

Section126
03-30-2006, 05:31 PM
Like I said, I take what you say with a grain of salt, until at least you take your heat glasses off.:wink:


Will you take your Nets glasses off first?

You can't be serious in thinking that the Nets would beat the Heat in a 7 game series and NOT have seriously impared vision from "Nets" glasses.

NJFINSFAN1
03-30-2006, 05:41 PM
Will you take your Nets glasses off first?

You can't be serious in thinking that the Nets would beat the Heat in a 7 game series and NOT have seriously impared vision from "Nets" glasses.

Just like I feel you can't think the Heat will win????

I said I respect the Heat, I think the Nets would beat them, but I could not guarantee it, and besides all your talk, you can't guarantee the Heat would win.

I'm not a thrash talker with my teams, but can I say the same for you?

Section126
03-30-2006, 05:46 PM
Just like I feel you can't think the Heat will win????

I said I respect the Heat, I think the Nets would beat them, but I could not guarantee it, and besides all your talk, you can't guarantee the Heat would win.

I'm not a thrash talker with my teams, but can I say the same for you?


I have a reason to think that the Nets have no chance...you don't.

This same BS happened last year...to the point where a few sports writers started popping off with predictions of a Nets win over the heat.

You saying that the Nets would beat the Heat is not showing much respect.

Like I said...the rest of the east should just shut up already...everytime they open their mouths...they get smashed by the top two.

Just having this conversation is disrespectful.

NJFINSFAN1
03-30-2006, 05:49 PM
I have a reason to think that the Nets have no chance...you don't.

This same BS happened last year...to the point where a few sports writers started popping off with predictions of a Nets win over the heat.

You saying that the Nets would beat the Heat is not showing much respect.

Like I said...the rest of the east should just shut up already...everytime they open their mouths...they get smashed by the top two.

Just having this conversation is disrespectful.

:sidelol: , man you just don't get it. You show nobody respect, but get upset when your teams don't get it. That's just to funny!

Ferretsquig
03-30-2006, 08:22 PM
Just like I feel you can't think the Heat will win????

I said I respect the Heat, I think the Nets would beat them, but I could not guarantee it, and besides all your talk, you can't guarantee the Heat would win.

Uh yeh you can guarentee the Heat will win and simply by thinking the Nets will beat them in a 7 game series shows a tremendous amount of disrespect. How in the world can they win more than one game?

You have 3 frontcourt players...none of whom can do anything besides annoy Shaq. Scoring options are also limited. It either Kristic shooting from 15+, Carter penetrating, or getting fast break baskets. The Heat will let everyone shoot....noone on the Nets can hit anything from the outside with any consistancy. Kidd has shooting better, but 41% is still pathetic. If the Heat play a slow game, limit turnovers, and dont play half *** defence, the Nets dont have a chance.

nyjunc
03-31-2006, 08:47 AM
The Heat after playing 42 games had only had their starting lineup play 11 games together

And 2 of those 11 the Nets beat the Heat. How come you can use the injury excue but the Nets couldn't last year?

I am NOT saying the Nets will beat Miami but it will not be a cakewalk this time and the nets will have a chance to win the series unlike last yar. Obviously the heat will be favorites but they Nets will have a chance.


Well might as well give the NY fans some hope....they like to become nets followers when the Knicks are tanking it. You just have to survive the month when their team is actually winning a few games....they will dissapear again after they get slaughtered in the playoffs. To think the Nets could win more than one game against the Heat or Pistons is just the hopefull fan's delusion.

says the fan of the team that has NEVER even made a Finals appearance:lol:

By the way, NOBODY cares about the Nets up here(think heat fan pre-Shaq) and Knick fans have not turned into Net fans.


You actually think the Nets have a chance against the Heat in the playoffs?

and you think the Heat have a chance to win the NBA title:sidelol: There is a better chance the Nets beat Miami than Miami winning it all.


You have 3 frontcourt players...none of whom can do anything besides annoy Shaq.

You guys like to talk about last year so much but krstic at worst was even w/ Shaq in that series. Shaq was not why you won that series and if yuo expect Shaq circa 2000 you guys are nuts. His bst days are behind him. Still a big force but not unstoppable like he used to be.

nyjunc
03-31-2006, 08:48 AM
I have a reason to think that the Nets have no chance...you don't.

This same BS happened last year...to the point where a few sports writers started popping off with predictions of a Nets win over the heat.

You saying that the Nets would beat the Heat is not showing much respect.

Like I said...the rest of the east should just shut up already...everytime they open their mouths...they get smashed by the top two.

Just having this conversation is disrespectful.

What have the Heat EVER done to earn such respect? You talk like they have 4 titles in the last decade. You haven't even won a conf title, do something before you talk like the heat are the Lakers.

NJFINSFAN1
03-31-2006, 08:57 AM
What have the Heat EVER done to earn such respect? You talk like they have 4 titles in the last decade. You haven't even won a conf title, do something before you talk like the heat are the Lakers.

Well said!:wink:

Ferretsquig
03-31-2006, 10:37 AM
You guys like to talk about last year so much but krstic at worst was even w/ Shaq in that series. Shaq was not why you won that series and if yuo expect Shaq circa 2000 you guys are nuts. His bst days are behind him. Still a big force but not unstoppable like he used to be.

So now Krstic is going to guard Shaq one on one? I'll give the guy credit....in a 4 game series he had one good game....of course the nets were being blown out by 30. Fact of the matter is, the Nets will have to consistantly double Shaq. The cant afford to hack him b/c they have no depth. If you double Shaq you lose....the supporting cast isnt great, but Posey, Haslem, and the Andersons hit their open shots.

Theres still only one player in the league that forces a constant double team. If you dont double him hes going to score 80%+ of the time. If you dont consider that dominance I dont know what is.

nyjunc
03-31-2006, 10:55 AM
So now Krstic is going to guard Shaq one on one? I'll give the guy credit....in a 4 game series he had one good game....of course the nets were being blown out by 30. Fact of the matter is, the Nets will have to consistantly double Shaq. The cant afford to hack him b/c they have no depth. If you double Shaq you lose....the supporting cast isnt great, but Posey, Haslem, and the Andersons hit their open shots.

Theres still only one player in the league that forces a constant double team. If you dont double him hes going to score 80%+ of the time. If you dont consider that dominance I dont know what is.

Of course Shaq gets the huge edge but the players were about even in last year's series and Shaq is not the same player he was in LA. He is getting old and breaking down. Doubling Shaq isn't going to hurt as much as it did last year when you had a good shooter in Damon Jones- this year you don't have great shooters. I'll take my chances w/ giving open shots rather than Shaq just killing us. The Nets may not have enough to overcome that but am very confident it will be a series unlike last year.

Also, don't forget Krstic can bring Shaq outside and open up the middle for great finishers in Carter and Jefferson. That's a matchup problem you'll have in the series.

NJFINSFAN1
03-31-2006, 11:01 AM
So now Krstic is going to guard Shaq one on one? I'll give the guy credit....in a 4 game series he had one good game....of course the nets were being blown out by 30. Fact of the matter is, the Nets will have to consistantly double Shaq. The cant afford to hack him b/c they have no depth. If you double Shaq you lose....the supporting cast isnt great, but Posey, Haslem, and the Andersons hit their open shots.

Theres still only one player in the league that forces a constant double team. If you dont double him hes going to score 80%+ of the time. If you dont consider that dominance I dont know what is.

Collins will spend a lot of time on shaq.

Ferretsquig
03-31-2006, 03:12 PM
Of course Shaq gets the huge edge but the players were about even in last year's series and Shaq is not the same player he was in LA. He is getting old and breaking down.

So the implication is that Shaq is the same player now that he was last year in the playoffs?


Doubling Shaq isn't going to hurt as much as it did last year when you had a good shooter in Damon Jones- this year you don't have great shooters. I'll take my chances w/ giving open shots rather than Shaq just killing us. The Nets may not have enough to overcome that but am very confident it will be a series unlike last year.

So 45% from 3 point land (what Posey is hitting while playing with Shaq) isnt the production of a good shooter? I guess JWill's 38% sucks as well. The Andersons can also hit open threes

I do miss the DJ that could hit 10 in a row....but certainly dont miss the one that would make 1 out of his next 10 attempts.


Also, don't forget Krstic can bring Shaq outside and open up the middle for great finishers in Carter and Jefferson. That's a matchup problem you'll have in the series.

I doubt Kristic draws Shaq......I'd guess guarding him will be a combo of Haslem and Mourning. Mabey in the 4th is Krstic is playing well and the game is close but otherwise you just let the big man play zone in the paint all day.

Ferretsquig
03-31-2006, 03:17 PM
You should really watch a Heat game before passing such judgement on Shaq. The guy is playing better than he has in years...including his last 2 in LA. Theres just one problem the Nets cant overcome....what do they do when the inevitable foul trouble comes?

Section126
03-31-2006, 03:29 PM
What have the Heat EVER done to earn such respect? You talk like they have 4 titles in the last decade. You haven't even won a conf title, do something before you talk like the heat are the Lakers.


We are talking about NOW...not ancient history...

WOW...I am really crapping my pants over the celtics...they got like 400 championships.!! We got no chance!

Section126
03-31-2006, 03:40 PM
And 2 of those 11 the Nets beat the Heat. How come you can use the injury excue but the Nets couldn't last year?

NO. 1 of those 11....your second win came with Wayne Simien starting...Haslem didn't play.

I am NOT saying the Nets will beat Miami but it will not be a cakewalk this time and the nets will have a chance to win the series unlike last yar. Obviously the heat will be favorites but they Nets will have a chance.

The Nets will have NO chance to win the series...but if you say a "series" as in the Nets can get 2 wins in it...then okay...it will be a series....don't be surprised if the Nets get killed though.

and you think the Heat have a chance to win the NBA title:sidelol: There is a better chance the Nets beat Miami than Miami winning it all.

NO. The Heat can beat Detroit...and if they do...they will be in the Finals...and THUS..will have a chance to win an NBA title. Your comparison is laughable.

You guys like to talk about last year so much but krstic at worst was even w/ Shaq in that series. Shaq was not why you won that series and if yuo expect Shaq circa 2000 you guys are nuts. His bst days are behind him. Still a big force but not unstoppable like he used to be.

We like to talk about last year..because the same BS was talked last year. You saw the result. You seem toforget that Shaq could barely walk in that series...he ended up missing the second round...there go those short memories again.... He is still unstoppable and if you look at his points per minute and his FG%...it is on par with his best of the last 5 years. Shaq is healthy agin and playing his best since he got into a Heat Uniform. I don't know what is sadder...the fact that you think the Nets have ANY chance..or that you think that this will be the same SHAQ as last year.



Watch a Heat game...will ya?

BTW...you feared Damon Jones? How bout you fear the best rebounding team in the league this year, the best FG% team, The Best Points in the paint team, a top 4 scoring team, and a team that has improved vastly over last year.

The fact remains that the Heat has been a mash unit this year and have managed to be on pace for MORE wins than last year when they were relatively Healthy.

In Short....this is a better Heat team.

King Felix
03-31-2006, 07:33 PM
We are talking about NOW...not ancient history...

WOW...I am really crapping my pants over the celtics...they got like 400 championships.!! We got no chance!

then why did u bring up last year?

Section126
03-31-2006, 08:01 PM
then why did u bring up last year?


Because the irony of what is going on right now is so thick.

:lastyr:



BTW...I was referring to what nyjunc was talking about....he seems to think that an ABA championship 97 years ago has something to do with today....

But...guess what...the same circumstances with the same teams in similar spots...from one year ago...have plenty to do with the present.

Dors156
03-31-2006, 09:58 PM
Watch out Eastern Conference!


j-kidd has been my favortie player for a long time.he is one of the best in the league

MARINO1384
03-31-2006, 10:51 PM
Nets win again that's 11 in a row.

Buddwalk
03-31-2006, 11:06 PM
Nets vs Heat

Jason Kidd > Jason Williams
Vince Carter > Dwyane Wade
Richard Jefferson > Udonis Haslem
Jason Collins < Antoine Walker
Nenad Krstic < Shaq

King Felix
03-31-2006, 11:41 PM
Nets vs Heat

Jason Kidd > Jason Williams
Vince Carter > Dwyane Wade
Richard Jefferson > Udonis Haslem
Jason Collins < Antoine Walker
Nenad Krstic < Shaq

ur gonna get flamed like crazy for that.

Ferretsquig
04-01-2006, 12:02 AM
When did Antoine become a center and Haslem a SF? Just curious...do you even know who the starters are on the Heat?

Buddwalk
04-01-2006, 12:10 AM
When did Antoine become a center and Haslem a SF? Just curious...do you even know who the starters are on the Heat?

Antoine is a PF...clearly what I have him listed

and Im not 100% certain but on nba.com they have haslem as the sf

King Felix
04-01-2006, 12:12 AM
When did Antoine become a center and Haslem a SF? Just curious...do you even know who the starters are on the Heat?

when did he list him as a center?

Section126
04-01-2006, 12:43 AM
Antoine is a PF...clearly what I have him listed

and Im not 100% certain but on nba.com they have haslem as the sf


He is not...

and Toine isn't a starter.

Wade doesn't guard Vince.



People insist on talking about the Heat when they have never seen them play.

Buddwalk
04-01-2006, 12:44 AM
He is not...

and Toine isn't a starter.

Wade doesn't guard Vince.



People insist on talking about the Heat when they have never seen them play.

I knew you'd say that :tongue:

Section126
04-01-2006, 12:49 AM
BTW...Bud...

Last Year....

Kidd - Jones
Jefferson - Wade
Vince - Jones
Krystic - Haslem
Collins - Shaq (could barely move)


4-0 Heat......:sidelol:

The Heat is better this year....good luck New Jersey...

Scottie Pippen just said it best right now on ESPN: "If you think the Nets are a serious playoff contender...then you want to get off work early." :sidelol:

Buddwalk
04-01-2006, 12:52 AM
BTW...Bud...

Last Year....

Kidd - Jones
Jefferson - Wade
Vince - Jones
Krystic - Haslem
Collins - Shaq (could barely move)


4-0 Heat......:sidelol:

The Heat is better this year....good luck New Jersey...

Scottie Pippen just said it best right now on ESPN: "If you think the Nets are a serious playoff contender...then you want to get off work early." :sidelol:


You bask in the glow of the past huh :chuckle:

Section126
04-01-2006, 12:57 AM
You bask in the glow of the past huh :chuckle:


You are the one that started doing a stupid comparison.

They are not playing a series of one on one games dude...it is a team sport....a team sport that the Nets will get hammered in by the Heat.

That's of course...if the Nets can even make it out of the first round.

Buddwalk
04-01-2006, 01:01 AM
You are the one that started doing a stupid comparison.

They are not playing a series of one on one games dude...it is a team sport....a team sport that the Nets will get hammered in by the Heat.

That's of course...if the Nets can even make it out of the first round.

Same goes for the heat buddy

King Felix
04-01-2006, 01:04 AM
You are the one that started doing a stupid comparison.

They are not playing a series of one on one games dude...it is a team sport....a team sport that the Nets will get hammered in by the Heat.

That's of course...if the Nets can even make it out of the first round.

automattically assumin heat are goin to win?? gonna be pissed if they get upset.

Ferretsquig
04-01-2006, 01:20 AM
Antoine is a PF...clearly what I have him listed

and Im not 100% certain but on nba.com they have haslem as the sf

Well I would just advise you watch a Heat game before you attempt to compare them to another team. I can also go through my nba live rosters and compare the ratings of players but it really has little effect on how the game is played.

Section126
04-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Same goes for the heat buddy


Is this a joke?

The lack of respect by these Heat haters is bordering on the insane.

Section126
04-01-2006, 01:22 AM
automattically assumin heat are goin to win?? gonna be pissed if they get upset.


Not gonna happen. Jeez...have you guys watched the NBA for the last 20 years?

King Felix
04-01-2006, 01:33 AM
Not gonna happen. Jeez...have you guys watched the NBA for the last 20 years?

wheres your respect? as of right now heat would play the pacers and the pacers split the season with the heat.

Section126
04-01-2006, 01:46 AM
wheres your respect? as of right now heat would play the pacers and the pacers split the season with the heat.


jeeeez.....

The Pacers won two games against the Heat with Shaq out...and they HAD ARTEST.

The first time...the Heat was playing well and Shaq got hurt early.

For the last time...the regular season means nothing when it comes to the playoffs.

BTW...Indiana will get the #6 seed...the Bucks schedule is MURDER down the stretch....

nyjunc
04-01-2006, 08:07 AM
So the implication is that Shaq is the same player now that he was last year in the playoffs?


Shaq's #s are down across the board from last year and he's always banged up w/ some ailment so yeah I guess he will be closer to what he was in last year's postseason than to his greatness.


So 45% from 3 point land (what Posey is hitting while playing with Shaq) isnt the production of a good shooter? I guess JWill's 38% sucks as well. The Andersons can also hit open threes


I will take my chances w/ those guys.


You should really watch a Heat game before passing such judgement on Shaq. The guy is playing better than he has in years...including his last 2 in LA. Theres just one problem the Nets cant overcome....what do they do when the inevitable foul trouble comes?

They have some bodies they can thrw at him w Collins' 6 fouls, Robinson's 6 and they still have a few Krstic fousl to give. Obviously it's going to be tough- I never said it wouldn't be- but unlike last year this team has a real chance this time around.

The only area he is better in than his last 2 years in LA is a VERY slightly better FG%. other than that his rebs are down, FTs are down, assist down, blocks down.


We are talking about NOW...not ancient history...

and what is it you are doing now? You are 2nd in the East, is that something to throw a parade over?


NO. 1 of those 11....your second win came with Wayne Simien starting...Haslem didn't play.



In the box score it says haslem DNP-Coache's decision. and it's not like haslem is Shaq or wade. as long as you have those 2 it doesn't matter who is around them and oh by the way we didn't have Krstic and krstic is better than Haslem.


The Nets will have NO chance to win the series...but if you say a "series" as in the Nets can get 2 wins in it...then okay...it will be a series....don't be surprised if the Nets get killed though.



I'd say at worst Miami wins in 6.


NO. The Heat can beat Detroit...and if they do...they will be in the Finals...and THUS..will have a chance to win an NBA title. Your comparison is laughable.


to win an NBA Title the Heat would have to beat BOTH Det and most likely SA- it's not happening. There is a MUCH better chance NJ beats Miami than Miami winning those 2 series.


We like to talk about last year..because the same BS was talked last year.

What BS? I said Miami would win and most likely in 5, I said the Nets would make them work a bit(and they had a couple pf tough games) but Miami would win. I never said the nets would win that series.


I don't know what is sadder...the fact that you think the Nets have ANY chance..or that you think that this will be the same SHAQ as last year.


What's saddest is thinking this heat team will win the title.


BTW...you feared Damon Jones? How bout you fear the best rebounding team in the league this year, the best FG% team, The Best Points in the paint team, a top 4 scoring team, and a team that has improved vastly over last year.


I didn't fear DJ but he could shoot open J's and he hurt us in the series. You think you've gotten better well it's safe to say the Nets have gotten much better and in the 2 games w/ Shaq and wade the Nets BEAT Miami when last year I don't think we beat you once.


BTW...Bud...

Last Year....

Kidd - Jones
Jefferson - Wade
Vince - Jones
Krystic - Haslem
Collins - Shaq (could barely move)


4-0 Heat......


Kidd was hurting, RJ wasn't starting as he was just back from injury and Krstic was a rookie.


Scottie Pippen just said it best right now on ESPN: "If you think the Nets are a serious playoff contender...then you want to get off work early."

That settles it, I mean if Pippen said that then it must be true- just cancel the rest of the season for the Nets.:lol:


For the last time...the regular season means nothing when it comes to the playoffs.

Maybe so but last year you stunk against the top teams then when you finally faced a top tam in the playoffs you lost and this year you've been beaten up by the top teams.

nyjunc
04-01-2006, 09:34 AM
This guys seems to think the Nets are for real and if shaq is sitting out games w/ sore knees how exactly are things going to be diff than last postseason?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/marty_burns/03/31/power.ranks.0331/index.html

Nice story on the "better than LA" shaq:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5426896

Another guy who thinks the Nets are for real:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5456950

Ferretsquig
04-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Shaq's #s are down across the board from last year and he's always banged up w/ some ailment so yeah I guess he will be closer to what he was in last year's postseason than to his greatness.

pts are up, same with rebounds.....lets try to measure things based on the time hes actually on the court. He has been out more than last year due to his injury. And hes not always banged up. He does sit out more games as the playoffs approach. You can argue whether that is a wise thing, but its just Shaq's way of doing things. Riley has been resting him prior to back to backs for the last month now.


They have some bodies they can thrw at him w Collins' 6 fouls, Robinson's 6 and they still have a few Krstic fousl to give. Obviously it's going to be tough- I never said it wouldn't be- but unlike last year this team has a real chance this time around.

Find me the last team that beat Shaq with 3 frontcourt players.


The only area he is better in than his last 2 years in LA is a VERY slightly better FG%. other than that his rebs are down, FTs are down, assist down, blocks down.

k we've verified you cant read a stat sheet.....mabey just try watching him for once. Then tell me how poorly hes been playing.

nyjunc
04-01-2006, 11:22 AM
pts are up, same with rebounds.....lets try to measure things based on the time hes actually on the court. He has been out more than last year due to his injury.

if he's not healthy enough to get the same # of mins he's used to that's his fault. He was averaging 27.5 and 21.5 his last 2 years in LA this year he's averaging 20.1- isn't that worse than 17.5 and 21.5? His last 2 years in LA his FT % was 62 and 49 this year it's 47 and he was attempted 11 and 10/gm in LA and now is attempting 8/gm, his last 2 years in LA he averaged 11 and 11.5 rebs/gm this year he is averaging 9, assists 2.9 & 3.1 in LA to 1.7 this year, TOs about the same(that's bad b/c he plays less), 2.4 and 2.5 blocks/gm in LA to 1.7 this year and 3.4 fouls/gm in LA to 3.9 this year(that's bad b/c he plays less).


Find me the last team that beat Shaq with 3 frontcourt players.


Last year det had the Wallace's and McDyess.


k we've verified you cant read a stat sheet.....mabey just try watching him for once. Then tell me how poorly hes been playing.

I can't? his #s are down everywhere except FG%

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/847/career;_ylt=AgaXFNMc991DNTT3lDUAZAGkvLYF

phunwin
04-01-2006, 11:25 AM
Just enjoying the show here. :jt0323:

Ferretsquig
04-01-2006, 12:07 PM
if he's not healthy enough to get the same # of mins he's used to that's his fault. He was averaging 27.5 and 21.5 his last 2 years in LA this year he's averaging 20.1- isn't that worse than 17.5 and 21.5? His last 2 years in LA his FT % was 62 and 49 this year it's 47 and he was attempted 11 and 10/gm in LA and now is attempting 8/gm, his last 2 years in LA he averaged 11 and 11.5 rebs/gm this year he is averaging 9, assists 2.9 & 3.1 in LA to 1.7 this year, TOs about the same(that's bad b/c he plays less), 2.4 and 2.5 blocks/gm in LA to 1.7 this year and 3.4 fouls/gm in LA to 3.9 this year(that's bad b/c he plays less).

Congrats....we can copy a stat sheet. Now try to read it. It is true the one area Shaq has really struggled in is picking up fouls early and often. The excuse used has been that he finally has a true backup center so he can be more agressive, but most seem to be more based on his carelessness than anything else.

But as far as his production on the court, it has gone up this year and I would fully expect the trend to continue into the playoffs....unless someone knees him again. I dont think its unreasonable to expect 38 mpg in the playoffs.


Last year det had the Wallace's and McDyess.

Add one more....the man Chucky calls the most skilled big man in the modern era. Bit of an underachiever though. Same reason the Pistons picked up Cato and Davis this year. Shaq just goes through bodies in the playoffs.

Section126
04-01-2006, 01:28 PM
Shaq's #s are down across the board from last year and he's always banged up w/ some ailment so yeah I guess he will be closer to what he was in last year's postseason than to his greatness.

How wrong you are....His numbers are up in the minutes he is playing. If you think you are getting the Same shaw as last year...you are really out there. Last year he needed to have blood drained from his thigh before every game. He is healthy now.

I will take my chances w/ those guys.

LOL!!! This Heat team is MUCH BETTER...good luck with that.

They have some bodies they can thrw at him w Collins' 6 fouls, Robinson's 6 and they still have a few Krstic fousl to give. Obviously it's going to be tough- I never said it wouldn't be- but unlike last year this team has a real chance this time around.

Yeah...keep focusing on Shaq while the rest of the team scores 110.

The only area he is better in than his last 2 years in LA is a VERY slightly better FG%. other than that his rebs are down, FTs are down, assist down, blocks down.

You should really watch him play....really...watch him.

and what is it you are doing now? You are 2nd in the East, is that something to throw a parade over?

Obviously...when one team goes out and outperforms their expectations...it is gonna be hard to get the #1...the Heat being a mash unit will still win 55 games...and maybe more.

In the box score it says haslem DNP-Coache's decision. and it's not like haslem is Shaq or wade. as long as you have those 2 it doesn't matter who is around them and oh by the way we didn't have Krstic and krstic is better than Haslem.

You should really not hang your hat on those games. Trust me.

I'd say at worst Miami wins in 6.

Really? Okay...that is fair....you are optimistic.

to win an NBA Title the Heat would have to beat BOTH Det and most likely SA- it's not happening. There is a MUCH better chance NJ beats Miami than Miami winning those 2 series.

AHHH...NO. Look at Detroits run a couple years ago...nobody picked them to even win the ECF...and they ended up smashing the Lakers in the Finals.

What BS? I said Miami would win and most likely in 5, I said the Nets would make them work a bit(and they had a couple pf tough games) but Miami would win. I never said the nets would win that series.

I was talking about the sports writers...the same parade happened last year...in fact..it was worst...you even had ESPN people predicting a Nets win.

What's saddest is thinking this heat team will win the title.

What is sad is that you think that the Nets are a serious playoff contender.

I didn't fear DJ but he could shoot open J's and he hurt us in the series. You think you've gotten better well it's safe to say the Nets have gotten much better and in the 2 games w/ Shaq and wade the Nets BEAT Miami when last year I don't think we beat you once.

Regular Season doesn't matter. One Example...the Heat when they lost to Indiana in the second round in Wade's rookie year...had gotten destroyed by Indiana in the regular season...when they actually played the series...the Heat lost in 6, but had a chance to win game 6 at the buzzer and force a game 7. Regular Season means nothing.

Kidd was hurting, RJ wasn't starting as he was just back from injury and Krstic was a rookie.

Damon Jones had a bad ankle...Haslem had a dislocated finger, Shaq couldn't walk, Eddie Jones had a shoulder problem...come on..stop with the excuses...all of theose excuses came after they got their *** kicked when a ton of sports writers were touting "the hottest team in the NBA."

That settles it, I mean if Pippen said that then it must be true- just cancel the rest of the season for the Nets.:lol:

He knows BS when he sees it. The Nets are BS.

Maybe so but last year you stunk against the top teams then when you finally faced a top tam in the playoffs you lost and this year you've been beaten up by the top teams.

We have been injury riddled against the top teams this year, and your memory is failing you. The Heat didn't "stink" against the top teams last year. As for saying what happened when we played a 'good team" in the playoffs...you saw that series....any objective person would have said that the heat was going to win that series till the injury bug overcame them. Of course..you are not objective.



The Nets this year are the same team as last year...no change...just healthier.

The Heat is healthy this year...I might remind you of that.

Section126
04-01-2006, 01:29 PM
This guys seems to think the Nets are for real and if shaq is sitting out games w/ sore knees how exactly are things going to be diff than last postseason?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/marty_burns/03/31/power.ranks.0331/index.html

Nice story on the "better than LA" shaq:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5426896

Another guy who thinks the Nets are for real:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5456950


Like I said....the same BS as last year is happening again.

NJFINSFAN1
04-01-2006, 03:18 PM
Just enjoying the show here. :jt0323:

It's funny how someone can complain about lack of respect for his team, when he gives no others respect.

Section126
04-01-2006, 05:43 PM
It's funny how someone can complain about lack of respect for his team, when he gives no others respect.


Try earning some.

King Felix
04-01-2006, 05:45 PM
Try earning some.

does beating the pistons then shutting out nash and stoudamire and makin the suns look goofy on back 2 back nights earn some respect?

Section126
04-01-2006, 05:48 PM
does beating the pistons then shutting out nash and stoudamire and makin the suns look goofy on back 2 back nights earn some respect?


Wait till the playoffs.

Knicks beat the Pistons...Hawks beat the Spurs....Bucks killed the Suns right after the Nets beat them....

Regular Season means nothing...

Like I said...same crap...different year.

I am wondering what excuse the Nets fans are going to use when they get smashed again...by whoever smashes them.

King Felix
04-01-2006, 05:59 PM
Wait till the playoffs.

Knicks beat the Pistons...Hawks beat the Spurs....Bucks killed the Suns right after the Nets beat them....

Regular Season means nothing...

Like I said...same crap...different year.

I am wondering what excuse the Nets fans are going to use when they get smashed again...by whoever smashes them.

u can only get respect by playoffs or something? cuz beatin pistons and suns in back to back deserves tons of respect.

Section126
04-01-2006, 06:00 PM
u can only get respect by playoffs or something? cuz beatin pistons and suns in back to back deserves tons of respect.


Okay...let's give them a trophy or something.

MARINO1384
04-01-2006, 07:32 PM
The Nets this year are the same team as last year...no change...just healthier.

The Heat is healthy this year...I might remind you of that.

Not true at all the Nets play much more as a team now. Nenad is getting better every game and last year he was only a rookie. Jason Kidd is having one of his best seasons ever(the stats might now show it but watch him play).Jefferson and Carter are going to dominate.

Metal Panda
04-01-2006, 08:07 PM
does beating the pistons then shutting out nash and stoudamire and makin the suns look goofy on back 2 back nights earn some respect?

Um, ok, the PHoenix win was impressive, but are you REALLY touting the 'fact' that you "shut out" an injured Stoudamire whose 0 points were more due to the fact that he could barely walk, rather than your team's stellar defense?

Good lord that's hilarious :)

MARINO1384
04-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Um, ok, the PHoenix win was impressive, but are you REALLY touting the 'fact' that you "shut out" an injured Stoudamire whose 0 points were more due to the fact that he could barely walk, rather than your team's stellar defense?

Good lord that's hilarious :)

and what's steve nash's excuse?

Metal Panda
04-01-2006, 09:41 PM
and what's steve nash's excuse?

As I said, it was an impressive victory, however, as previously stated by others, in an NBA season that's 82 games, beating a series of solid teams hardly proves anything. Winning consistently is all that matters.

Hell even the Magic beat Dallas and they're staying home for the playoffs.

NJFINSFAN1
04-01-2006, 09:45 PM
Try earning some.

No need to, read your posts!

NJFINSFAN1
04-01-2006, 09:49 PM
As I said, it was an impressive victory, however, as previously stated by others, in an NBA season that's 82 games, beating a series of solid teams hardly proves anything. Winning consistently is all that matters.

Hell even the Magic beat Dallas and they're staying home for the playoffs.

Yes, but you can't discount what they have done, and to simply say the Heat will win because of last year is just silly. Nets are better then last year, Heat are hurting.

I don't disrespect the Heat, they are a very good team, can I say the Nets will win a series against them for sure, no! Do I think they win, yes.

But to say the Nets have no chance is just plan (being nice) silly.

MARINO1384
04-02-2006, 11:54 AM
Okay...let's give them a trophy or something.

Ok then watch tonight and u'll see how good the nets are. If the Nets do win we all know what ur excuse will be that you don't have shaq but how can you expect to have shaq in the playoffs if he's always getting hurt like this.

Section126
04-02-2006, 08:55 PM
Ok then watch tonight and u'll see how good the nets are. If the Nets do win we all know what ur excuse will be that you don't have shaq but how can you expect to have shaq in the playoffs if he's always getting hurt like this.


Saw them...Congratulations on beating the Heat B team with the officials screwing SHAQ with 5 fouls (3 were BS) that put him on the bench in the 3rd quarter.

Not impressed....your perimeter players are great...but your big men suck. Like I said....I was touting the Nets on these boards as a team to watch before the season started...

Sad thing is that if I were the GM of the Nets...they would be a legitimate contender...

You are in for a rude awakening when the playoffs start and you stop getting calls. Nevermind all the clutching and grabbing that Vince will have to deal with...

It is a different game in the playoffs.

All it would have taken was a couple of real PF's and the Nets WOULD be for real....their bench is also pretty bad.

NJFINSFAN1
04-02-2006, 09:33 PM
Saw them...Congratulations on beating the Heat B team with the officials screwing SHAQ with 5 fouls (3 were BS) that put him on the bench in the 3rd quarter.

Not impressed....your perimeter players are great...but your big men suck. Like I said....I was touting the Nets on these boards as a team to watch before the season started...

Sad thing is that if I were the GM of the Nets...they would be a legitimate contender...

You are in for a rude awakening when the playoffs start and you stop getting calls. Nevermind all the clutching and grabbing that Vince will have to deal with...

It is a different game in the playoffs.

All it would have taken was a couple of real PF's and the Nets WOULD be for real....their bench is also pretty bad.

Yep, good old fall back, blame the Ref's!:shakeno:

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:05 PM
Yep, good old fall back, blame the Ref's!:shakeno:


OH NO...those were great calls on Shaq....:sidelol:

I don't blame anyone...the Nets won....

I am just upset that we have rested so many players for no real reason lately.

Rocky Raccoon
04-02-2006, 10:12 PM
OH NO...those were great calls on Shaq....:sidelol:

I don't blame anyone...the Nets won....

I am just upset that we have rested so many players for no real reason lately.

well playoffs are starting soon...rest is probably a good thing. Especially for a team that will definately be there, and as a high seed.

Prime Time
04-02-2006, 10:21 PM
Section just stop with the excuses. Every time we lose..there is an excuse. Just stop. Vince Carter lit us up...that was our problem.

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:22 PM
well playoffs are starting soon...rest is probably a good thing. Especially for a team that will definately be there, and as a high seed.


I still think they should have rested all those people against Cleveland then....and had the full compliment against a team that is a very likely 2nd round opponent.

Playing Derek Anderson at PG...yikes! and Kapono on Vince...jeeez..I wonder what Vince thought when we trotted out kapono to D him up!

it just seems like a waste to send Wade out there to kill himslef for no reason..

I guess Riley thinks the #2 is a lock and he is just buying time till the playoffs start.

Always have liked Kidd and Jefferson...Jason Kidd is the most underrated player in the league IMO...nobody talks about him and seriously...how many PG's are better than him? Not many.

Buddwalk
04-02-2006, 10:23 PM
Saw them...Congratulations on beating the Heat B team with the officials screwing SHAQ with 5 fouls (3 were BS) that put him on the bench in the 3rd quarter.

Not impressed....your perimeter players are great...but your big men suck. Like I said....I was touting the Nets on these boards as a team to watch before the season started...

Sad thing is that if I were the GM of the Nets...they would be a legitimate contender...

You are in for a rude awakening when the playoffs start and you stop getting calls. Nevermind all the clutching and grabbing that Vince will have to deal with...

It is a different game in the playoffs.

All it would have taken was a couple of real PF's and the Nets WOULD be for real....their bench is also pretty bad.


Your a really sore fan bro...all your comments are just horrendously biased

Your way too sure of your team...I mean how can you even talk smack when they just got beat by the exact team were argueing with

Nets > Heat

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Section just stop with the excuses. Every time we lose..there is an excuse. Just stop. Vince Carter lit us up...that was our problem.


Stop jumping the gun with your self Heat hating stuff.

I am not making any excuses. Those calls were great against SHAQ...and it was our secret weapon to rest 2 starters and play Kapono for the first time in almost a month....and on Vince Carter of all people.

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Your a really sore fan bro...all your comments are just horrendously biased

Your way too sure of your team...I mean how can you even talk smack when they just got beat by the exact team were argueing with

Nets > Heat


Not talking smack.....just reality.

It is what it is.

Prime Time
04-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Why would I hate on my HEat? I want them to win. You talk about reality? Reality is that we lost. With Shaq! With Wade! We lost the game. Carter lit us up.

Buddwalk
04-02-2006, 10:32 PM
Not talking smack.....just reality.

It is what it is.


ok reality...then why cant you admit and stop making excuses that the nets currently are playing better ball then the heat which infact is reality


I dont care about last year man please stop bringing it up lets talk about whats going on now and right now, the nets are argueably one of the toughest teams to beat right now

Rocky Raccoon
04-02-2006, 10:36 PM
ok reality...then why cant you admit and stop making excuses that the nets currently are playing better ball then the heat which infact is reality


I dont care about last year man please stop bringing it up lets talk about whats going on now and right now, the nets are argueably one of the toughest teams to beat right now

the Nets are without a doubt one of the top teams in the East. I don't think they're better than the Heat myself, but that's just MO.

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:44 PM
ok reality...then why cant you admit and stop making excuses that the nets currently are playing better ball then the heat which infact is reality


I dont care about last year man please stop bringing it up lets talk about whats going on now and right now, the nets are argueably one of the toughest teams to beat right now


The Nets are playing great...i am not disputing that...they are playing great...PERIOD.

I was just pointing out that the differences between playoff games and regular season games work against the Nets. It caters to teams with good front lines....That's all.

Come on guys...you have seen what happens in the playoffs...don't act like you don't know.

Section126
04-02-2006, 10:47 PM
With Shaq! With Wade! .


Without J-Will!, Without Posey!, Without ZO!...Without Shaq with 5 fouls in the 3rd...

That is what I mean Prime....you sometimes hate on them to sound objective.

NJFINSFAN1
04-03-2006, 04:59 PM
Section just stop with the excuses. Every time we lose..there is an excuse. Just stop. Vince Carter lit us up...that was our problem.

Thank you, its all good to be a strong backer of a team, but sometimes you lose, and sometimes you need to give another team credit.http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

I hope we see you guys in the playoffs, it will be a good hard fought series.

NJFINSFAN1
04-03-2006, 05:01 PM
The Nets are playing great...i am not disputing that...they are playing great...PERIOD.

I was just pointing out that the differences between playoff games and regular season games work against the Nets. It caters to teams with good front lines....That's all.

Come on guys...you have seen what happens in the playoffs...don't act like you don't know.

So you base this on the playoffs, since the Fins have not done very well in the playoffs the last few times, if they make it this year, we don't have a shot I guess?

Section126
04-03-2006, 05:05 PM
Thank you, its all good to be a strong backer of a team, but sometimes you lose, and sometimes you need to give another team credit.http://images.finheaven.com/forums/icons/icon14.gif

I hope we see you guys in the playoffs, it will be a good hard fought series.


We'll see. History says otherwise. (not what happened last year, just the way games are officiated in the playoffs)

Section126
04-03-2006, 05:08 PM
So you base this on the playoffs, since the Fins have not done very well in the playoffs the last few times, if they make it this year, we don't have a shot I guess?


What are you talking about? What does the NFL have to do with the difference between regular season NBA games and Playoff NBA games?

You are talking like you have never seen an NBA playoff game.

NJFINSFAN1
04-03-2006, 05:11 PM
We'll see. History says otherwise. (not what happened last year, just the way games are officiated in the playoffs)

Here's my thing, you keep going back to the past playoffs. Its new teams, a new year, guys are older, new plays etc...

With that logic, the only team with a chance is the Champion every year.

Again, when I say that I think the Nets will beat the Heat in the Playoffs, you think its an insult.

When the Nets beat the Heat the other day, you say the Ref's killed Shaq.

I have to agree with Prime Time, you are way to biased for the Heat. But that's fine, I'm not asking you to change.

Maybe someday you will get a Championship, but based on you playoff games logic, I guess it will never happen.:rolleyes:

Section126
04-03-2006, 05:15 PM
Here's my thing, you keep going back to the past playoffs. Its new teams, a new year, guys are older, new plays etc...

With that logic, the only team with a chance is the Champion every year.

Again, when I say that I think the Nets will beat the Heat in the Playoffs, you think its an insult.

When the Nets beat the Heat the other day, you say the Ref's killed Shaq.

I have to agree with Prime Time, you are way to biased for the Heat. But that's fine, I'm not asking you to change.

Maybe someday you will get a Championship, but based on you playoff games logic, I guess it will never happen.:rolleyes:


It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with someone that refuses to pay attention.

For the last time. I am not talking about "THE RESULTS" last year. I am talking about the differences in how games are officiated and the way games are played in the playoffs.

Section126
04-03-2006, 05:16 PM
We'll see. History says otherwise. (not what happened last year, just the way games are officiated in the playoffs)


What part of that don't you undertstand?

NJFINSFAN1
04-03-2006, 05:27 PM
and you are a heat hater, enough said.

facts are facts. The Nets were the hottest team in the NBA last season in March and April....and they GOT SMASHED by the Heat.

and yes...this year is different...SHAQ is actually HEALTHY...

oh...did you forget that the Heat smashed them in 4 with a hobbled Shaq?

short memories...short memories.

So you saying this about last year?

AGAIN LAST YEAR!!!!!

You talk about the past all the time, yet when someone brings that up you change.

Its the same all the time with you.

Section126
04-03-2006, 05:35 PM
So you saying this about last year?

AGAIN LAST YEAR!!!!!

You talk about the past all the time, yet when someone brings that up you change.

Its the same all the time with you.


You have reading comprehension issues.

I pointed out how the same exact thing happened last year and you saw the result.

I am pointing out that there are deeper reasons as to why the Nets are playoff meat.

MARINO1384
04-03-2006, 07:37 PM
OH NO...those were great calls on Shaq....:sidelol:

I don't blame anyone...the Nets won....

I am just upset that we have rested so many players for no real reason lately.

Calls on shaq yeah ok buddy. Most of those were good calls he ALWAYS swings his elbow when he turns and he absolutly hammered vince carter out at the 3 point line. About time refs actually called fouls on him.

MARINO1384
04-03-2006, 07:40 PM
We'll see. History says otherwise. (not what happened last year, just the way games are officiated in the playoffs)

So your admitting that Shaq gets bogus calls and the heat are good just when they get fouls called there way.

Section126
04-03-2006, 07:56 PM
Calls on shaq yeah ok buddy. Most of those were good calls he ALWAYS swings his elbow when he turns and he absolutly hammered vince carter out at the 3 point line. About time refs actually called fouls on him.


This post is such a joke, that I am posting it on the Heat thread so everybody gets a laugh.

Dude....the replay showed that Shaq never touched Vince....the air monster hit Vince.

When a player turns with the ball in two hands...he is allowed to turn any way he wants. it is in the rules. it isn't Shaq's fault that he is much stronger and in some cases, taller than the stiffs you have to defend him.

Section126
04-03-2006, 07:57 PM
So your admitting that Shaq gets bogus calls and the heat are good just when they get fouls called there way.


No...I am saying that they actually let the teams play and they let someone get in Vince's face from beginning to end.

Enjoy the regular season.

MARINO1384
04-04-2006, 08:47 PM
This post is such a joke, that I am posting it on the Heat thread so everybody gets a laugh.

Dude....the replay showed that Shaq never touched Vince....the air monster hit Vince.

When a player turns with the ball in two hands...he is allowed to turn any way he wants. it is in the rules. it isn't Shaq's fault that he is much stronger and in some cases, taller than the stiffs you have to defend him.

Stiffs yeah ok like he really dominated us? And what about on the blokc when he swung his elbow like he always does they useully let him get away with that even tho it's dirty. Never touched vince? he went flying to the floor how does he not touch him?

King Felix
04-04-2006, 09:18 PM
shaq travels so much that its hard to watch.........btw vince is on fire.

Buddwalk
04-04-2006, 09:19 PM
shaq travels so much that its hard to watch.........btw vince is on fire.

:yeahthat:

Section126
04-04-2006, 10:09 PM
Stiffs yeah ok like he really dominated us? And what about on the blokc when he swung his elbow like he always does they useully let him get away with that even tho it's dirty. Never touched vince? he went flying to the floor how does he not touch him?


he did dominate...look at his performance since the refs put him on the bench with 5 fouls in the 3rd quarter.

For the last time....The replay showed that shaq never even touched him...it was a total acting job that Vince did...and the idiot refs fell for it.

HE DID NOT TOUCH HIM.


and you call me biased...dude..you are the one that actually thinks that was a foul...when NBA TV was laughing at how the refs fell for the flop.

FinsNYanksFan13
04-04-2006, 10:32 PM
Shaq gets away with fouls more then anyone in history. No one gets away with more elbows and blantant use of the body then him. No Shaq fans should be complaining about fouls called against him. He bully's guys over all the time and always gets the call when in reality, 75% of the time the foul should be called on Shaq.


With that said though, you Nets fans are day dreaming and this is coming from a guy who would love nothing else then to see the Nets take the Heat out. The Nets will give the Heat a scare but at the end of the day Shaq and company will take the Nets out in 6. I'd like the Nets chances against the Pistons in the playoffs more then I like their chances against the Heat. The Pistons will be the ones sending the Heat home for the summer, not the Nets, although I am pulling for them big time!

MARINO1384
04-05-2006, 06:22 PM
he did dominate...look at his performance since the refs put him on the bench with 5 fouls in the 3rd quarter.

For the last time....The replay showed that shaq never even touched him...it was a total acting job that Vince did...and the idiot refs fell for it.

HE DID NOT TOUCH HIM.


and you call me biased...dude..you are the one that actually thinks that was a foul...when NBA TV was laughing at how the refs fell for the flop.

ok you bring up the clip and show me it. Yes i'll admit vince is a good actor and it's part of the game he sells alot of fouls. But shaq gets away with so many fouls it's not even funny. As someone said before also he travels like there's no tomarrow.

MARINO1384
04-05-2006, 06:27 PM
Shaq gets away with fouls more then anyone in history. No one gets away with more elbows and blantant use of the body then him. No Shaq fans should be complaining about fouls called against him. He bully's guys over all the time and always gets the call when in reality, 75% of the time the foul should be called on Shaq.


With that said though, you Nets fans are day dreaming and this is coming from a guy who would love nothing else then to see the Nets take the Heat out. The Nets will give the Heat a scare but at the end of the day Shaq and company will take the Nets out in 6. I'd like the Nets chances against the Pistons in the playoffs more then I like their chances against the Heat. The Pistons will be the ones sending the Heat home for the summer, not the Nets, although I am pulling for them big time!

Thank you on the shaq thing!!!! But i disagree with you about the day dreaming. I personally aren't thinking about the 2nd round with the heat he's the one that brought up "history". The Nets aren't worried about the playoffs either that's why they are playing so good right now. I believe that's going to help them and if they do play the heat then they will give them a good series and i think they'll come out on top. You know that Vince is going to make up for what he did with toronto and he wants to win and combine that with kidd,jefferson and the way krystic is playing now and they have a cery good chance of taking down the heat.

Section126
04-05-2006, 08:48 PM
Thank you on the shaq thing!!!! But i disagree with you about the day dreaming. I personally aren't thinking about the 2nd round with the heat he's the one that brought up "history". The Nets aren't worried about the playoffs either that's why they are playing so good right now. I believe that's going to help them and if they do play the heat then they will give them a good series and i think they'll come out on top. You know that Vince is going to make up for what he did with toronto and he wants to win and combine that with kidd,jefferson and the way krystic is playing now and they have a cery good chance of taking down the heat.


No they don't. Don't kid yourself. Your team has NO chance against the Heat. NONE.

Section126
04-05-2006, 08:50 PM
ok you bring up the clip and show me it. Yes i'll admit vince is a good actor and it's part of the game he sells alot of fouls. But shaq gets away with so many fouls it's not even funny. As someone said before also he travels like there's no tomarrow.


You can't compare the number of times Shaq is fouled with whatever he does that is illegal.

You saw those stiffs you have playing center....two hands on...is a foul...PERIOD.

nevermind...the Nets will be out in the first round and if not...they will get destroyed by the Heat....again...and you will be gone from this board.....again.

Buddwalk
04-05-2006, 08:53 PM
You can't compare the number of times Shaq is fouled with whatever he does that is illegal.

You saw those stiffs you have playing center....two hands on...is a foul...PERIOD.

nevermind...the Nets will be out in the first round and if not...they will get destroyed by the Heat....again...and you will be gone from this board.....again.


I however wont be gone from this board...the real question is when the heat lose to the nets in a 7 game series will you be man enough to admit that they were the better team or will you cry and moan and make up more excuses? :chuckle:

Section126
04-05-2006, 08:54 PM
I however wont be gone from this board...the real question is when the heat lose to the nets in a 7 game series will you be man enough to admit that they were the better team or will you cry and moan and make up more excuses? :chuckle:


The Heat losing in 7 games to the nets has to be the funniest thing ever posted on this board.

MARINO1384
04-06-2006, 12:01 AM
The Heat losing in 7 games to the nets has to be the funniest thing ever posted on this board.

Yeah it's funny until it happens so don't be to over-confident especially with those glass players of yours.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 12:05 AM
The Heat losing in 7 games to the nets has to be the funniest thing ever posted on this board.

No them losing to the pacers in the first round is more funnier :chuckle:

King Felix
04-06-2006, 12:34 AM
I however wont be gone from this board...the real question is when the heat lose to the nets in a 7 game series will you be man enough to admit that they were the better team or will you cry and moan and make up more excuses? :chuckle:bold part says it all for everygame the heat lose.

King Felix
04-06-2006, 12:35 AM
No them losing to the pacers in the first round is more funnier :chuckle::lol:

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:08 AM
No them losing to the pacers in the first round is more funnier :chuckle:


yeah...that would be funny. :rolleyes2

What's your team again?

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:09 AM
bold part says it all for everygame the heat lose.


Not true.

you have only been trolling in the heat threads for a few weeks...so how would you know?

Rocky Raccoon
04-06-2006, 01:12 AM
yeah...that would be funny. :rolleyes2

What's your team again?

Budd's a Bobcats fan :chuckle:

King Felix
04-06-2006, 01:14 AM
Not true.

you have only been trolling in the heat threads for a few weeks...so how would you know?no actually ive been readin it for longer than u think and yes everygame they lose u have made an excuse.

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:15 AM
no actually ive been readin it for longer than u think and yes everygame they lose u have made an excuse.


Not true.

Happy trolling though. :rolleyes2

King Felix
04-06-2006, 01:16 AM
Not true.

Happy trolling though. :rolleyes2it is true. even heat fans say its true.

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:17 AM
Yeah it's funny until it happens so don't be to over-confident especially with those glass players of yours.


Says the fan of a team that is rarely healthy.

You don't watch much basketball huh?

First you give the Nets a chance in the playoffs and now you are calling other team's players.."glass"...

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:21 AM
it is true. even heat fans say its true.


No it isn't.

I assess their play every night. I guess you glossed over all those posts of me ripping them after a bad loss and calling the front office out for resting players unneccessarily.

King Felix
04-06-2006, 01:25 AM
No it isn't.

I assess their play every night. I guess you glossed over all those posts of me ripping them after a bad loss and calling the front office out for resting players unneccessarily. you also talked about how some1 didnt play and thats why they lost and blah blah

Section126
04-06-2006, 01:37 AM
you also talked about how some1 didnt play and thats why they lost and blah blah


Yeah...I forgot...we should win every game that Shaq doesn't play in...and never mind games where we are missing 2 starters and our best bench player....:rolleyes2

MARINO1384
04-06-2006, 04:54 AM
Says the fan of a team that is rarely healthy.

You don't watch much basketball huh?

First you give the Nets a chance in the playoffs and now you are calling other team's players.."glass"...

When are the Nets not healthy? You really need to take the heat glasses off.....The only net that has been hurt this year for more then like 5 games has been zoran plananic (sp?) and he's our backup pg.Backup!!!! that's the only guy.... so you should really back your facts up before you blurt out unture facts that are wayyyyyyyyyyyy off.

And for your info i prolly watch/play/am around the game more times in my 15 years then you have in your 32 or whatever....so you can keep on thinking that i don't watch basketball much but your wrong buddy

MARINO1384
04-06-2006, 04:55 AM
Yeah...I forgot...we should win every game that Shaq doesn't play in...and never mind games where we are missing 2 starters and our best bench player....:rolleyes2

More examples of your glass team^

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 07:24 AM
My team however is no where near the playoff race but that has alot to do with okafor before out for the whole season and sean may


Mays gonna be a great 10-12ppg player off the bench next year subbing in for okafor, If the bobcats can get a sg or someone to pose a threat on the offensive side other then wallace we might have a shot

PG Brevin Knight
SG Adam Morrison or Brandon Roy
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Emeka Okafor
C Primoz Brezic
Bench - Raymond Felton
Bench - Sean May

Something I'd love to do in the draft is somehow trade down a couple spots and maybe pickup an extra pick somewhere and grab Brandon Roy SG out of Washington who has quicker feet then morrison. Doesnt have nearly as good as a scorers mentality...but would be a better sg prospect in the nba. Morrison is going to have to most likely play SF at 6''8 and add a good 20 lbs solid muscle


Or If the bobcats can manage to get one of these players in the draft they should be fine barring injury

Adam Morrison [Best Scorer last year...needs to work on his defense and his slow feet]
Brandon Roy [Simple one of the best players in the country last year and can do everything]
JJ Redick [Needs to add weight but his 3 point shooting skills are amazing]
Rudy Gay [Athletic Enough to maybe make the transition to SG...6''9 SG wow]
Rudy Fernandez [Foreign Player supposed to be more complete then manu ginoboli was coming to the nba, 6''6 175 lbs. The only knack on the kid is his weight which people believe will severely kill him in the nba, Everything else is ace about this kid]

Section126
04-06-2006, 12:51 PM
When are the Nets not healthy? You really need to take the heat glasses off.....The only net that has been hurt this year for more then like 5 games has been zoran plananic (sp?) and he's our backup pg.Backup!!!! that's the only guy.... so you should really back your facts up before you blurt out unture facts that are wayyyyyyyyyyyy off.

And for your info i prolly watch/play/am around the game more times in my 15 years then you have in your 32 or whatever....so you can keep on thinking that i don't watch basketball much but your wrong buddy


This post proves that you are not much of a Nets fan...

When are the Nets not healthy?

How bout Kidd and Jefferson last year? Wasn't that your excuse for getting smashed by the Heat? How bout the injuries you had when you were a finals contender? Vince Carter has only been healthy...lately...he missed tons of games as a raptor.

The Nets have been one of the most injury plagued teams in the NBA in the last 4 years.

Just a fact. But yeah...you watch alot of Nets basketball. :rolleyes2

But no....I have FORGOTTEN more basketball than you have ever known....so relax...especially when you don't even know your own team's history.

NJFINSFAN1
04-06-2006, 02:15 PM
This post proves that you are not much of a Nets fan...

When are the Nets not healthy?

How bout Kidd and Jefferson last year? Wasn't that your excuse for getting smashed by the Heat? How bout the injuries you had when you were a finals contender? Vince Carter has only been healthy...lately...he missed tons of games as a raptor.

The Nets have been one of the most injury plagued teams in the NBA in the last 4 years.

Just a fact. But yeah...you watch alot of Nets basketball. :rolleyes2

But no....I have FORGOTTEN more basketball than you have ever known....so relax...especially when you don't even know your own team's history.

I'll back you on this one, last year they were all hurt.

Vince Carter has missed a few games this year with a Hammy, Kristic has been hurt a few times, Collins missed about a week early this year. Or back up Guard McInnis has been out for over a month also this year. But we have been pretty lucky with the injury bug this year.

Last year, Kid was slowed by surgery, Collins, Carter, Jefferson all missed time. They were real beat up.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Nets Streak ends tonight...Bobcats win, and Raymond Felton or Gerald Wallace puts up 30+

Watch :wink: :wink: :wink:

Dont worry folks Im not on crack :chuckle:

Section126
04-06-2006, 07:52 PM
Nets Streak ends tonight...Bobcats win, and Raymond Felton or Gerald Wallace puts up 30+

Watch :wink: :wink: :wink:

Dont worry folks Im not on crack :chuckle:

Budd....

Are the bobcats prepared to spend some cash soon?

IMO...they are one great player away from being a 4 or 5 seed at least....

Felton and Wallace are studs.....

do yourselves a favor...pass on Adam Morrison...:wink:

MARINO1384
04-06-2006, 08:06 PM
This post proves that you are not much of a Nets fan...

When are the Nets not healthy?

How bout Kidd and Jefferson last year? Wasn't that your excuse for getting smashed by the Heat? How bout the injuries you had when you were a finals contender? Vince Carter has only been healthy...lately...he missed tons of games as a raptor.

The Nets have been one of the most injury plagued teams in the NBA in the last 4 years.

Just a fact. But yeah...you watch alot of Nets basketball. :rolleyes2

But no....I have FORGOTTEN more basketball than you have ever known....so relax...especially when you don't even know your own team's history.

I;m not talking about last year i'm talking about this year. Last year was last year there have been no significant injurys this year. As for Vince he faked half those injuries in Toronto. He was sick and tired of having to score 40+ points a night to win while the raptors failed to get him a supporting cast. If those injuries accured now i garentee he would play through them because he and the nets are going out there every night and having fun and he's enjoying himself.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 08:14 PM
Budd....

Are the bobcats prepared to spend some cash soon?

IMO...they are one great player away from being a 4 or 5 seed at least....

Felton and Wallace are studs.....

do yourselves a favor...pass on Adam Morrison...:wink:

I sure hope they spend some cash...They definitely have the money

I think one thing people just dont want to play for our coach Bernie Bickerstaff...the reason hes going to be gone after this season!

Tubby Smith is a big name out there for his job though...

Like I said maybe trade down a couple spots and grab Brandon Roy the 6''5 210 lb. SG from Washington, the kid can clearly do everything and would be an instant starter in our lineup. Yeah not to mention that brevin knight is a great pg, and primoz brezic has become a decent center. I feel knight may want to leave after this season though


As far as being a 4 or 5 seed, eh I'd love to say that but Im thinking a 7 or 8 seed right now...Okafor did have 16 double doubles in only 26 games played this season though. Sean May was getting 10+ ppg and 5-6 rpg in the beginning right off the bench...so he'll be a great player for years behind okafor, too slow to be a starter unfortunately.

Its kind of a shame that kareem rush still never worked out...Hes very injury prone and struggles in practice, and when he does crack the lineup on occasion he is very inconsistant. He'll go like 0-6, then suddenly nail 3 3 pointers...I'd love for him to be on every night but hes not

MARINO1384
04-06-2006, 08:16 PM
My team however is no where near the playoff race but that has alot to do with okafor before out for the whole season and sean may


Mays gonna be a great 10-12ppg player off the bench next year subbing in for okafor, If the bobcats can get a sg or someone to pose a threat on the offensive side other then wallace we might have a shot

PG Brevin Knight
SG Adam Morrison or Brandon Roy
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Emeka Okafor
C Primoz Brezic
Bench - Raymond Felton
Bench - Sean May

Something I'd love to do in the draft is somehow trade down a couple spots and maybe pickup an extra pick somewhere and grab Brandon Roy SG out of Washington who has quicker feet then morrison. Doesnt have nearly as good as a scorers mentality...but would be a better sg prospect in the nba. Morrison is going to have to most likely play SF at 6''8 and add a good 20 lbs solid muscle


Or If the bobcats can manage to get one of these players in the draft they should be fine barring injury

Adam Morrison [Best Scorer last year...needs to work on his defense and his slow feet]
Brandon Roy [Simple one of the best players in the country last year and can do everything]
JJ Redick [Needs to add weight but his 3 point shooting skills are amazing]
Rudy Gay [Athletic Enough to maybe make the transition to SG...6''9 SG wow]
Rudy Fernandez [Foreign Player supposed to be more complete then manu ginoboli was coming to the nba, 6''6 175 lbs. The only knack on the kid is his weight which people believe will severely kill him in the nba, Everything else is ace about this kid]

hmm adam morrison.... good scorer but can't play defense then again he should fit in perfect with the rest of the nba because none of them play defense either lol.

JJ Redick will never be a star in the nba and he's got alot hype being from Duke. Probably a very good player off the bench.

Rudy Gay is the most overrated player in the country period. Can't gaurd a chair,isn't dominate on offense,saves himself for one highlight dunk that makes it on espn which is why everyone thinks he's sooooo good but really he's a bust for uconn see IMO lets see if he decides to work in the nba.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 08:26 PM
hmm adam morrison.... good scorer but can't play defense then again he should fit in perfect with the rest of the nba because none of them play defense either lol.

JJ Redick will never be a star in the nba and he's got alot hype being from Duke. Probably a very good player off the bench.

Rudy Gay is the most overrated player in the country period. Can't gaurd a chair,isn't dominate on offense,saves himself for one highlight dunk that makes it on espn which is why everyone thinks he's sooooo good but really he's a bust for uconn see IMO lets see if he decides to work in the nba.


Redick will never lose his ability to hit 3 pointers one thing that makes him stick out from all the other duke busts.

Rudy Gay is not overrated he just needs to mature...when the kids on ask anyone on the court if they want to guard him or be guarded by him.

6''9 220 lb SG would be awesome though

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 08:32 PM
Ouch horrible foul on Alan Anderson...just came up and slapped the crap out of vince carter on a 3

Carters going to the line for Three FT's now, Makes 2-3 FT

Carter comes back and fouls Felton

Felton goes to the line, goes 1-2 on FTs

Jefferson rebounds and felton fouls right away

Right now score is 45-47 the nets up by two

and Felton has 6 points and 6 assists

on the opposite side Jefferson has 13 points and 5 rebounds

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 08:49 PM
At the Half 51-51

Go Bobcats :D :D :D

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 09:06 PM
Nets up right now 70-64

Jason Kidd just threw up a beauty of an alley oop dunk to carter

Kidd now has 8 points, 10 assists, and 7 rebounds in the 3rd :eek:

This would give him the lead for triple doubles for the year if he gets it tonight


EDIT: Kidd now has 11 points, 10 assists, and 8 rebounds in the 3rd

Nets up 75-70

Prime
04-06-2006, 09:10 PM
My team however is no where near the playoff race but that has alot to do with okafor before out for the whole season and sean may


Mays gonna be a great 10-12ppg player off the bench next year subbing in for okafor, If the bobcats can get a sg or someone to pose a threat on the offensive side other then wallace we might have a shot

PG Brevin Knight
SG Adam Morrison or Brandon Roy
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Emeka Okafor
C Primoz Brezic
Bench - Raymond Felton
Bench - Sean May

Something I'd love to do in the draft is somehow trade down a couple spots and maybe pickup an extra pick somewhere and grab Brandon Roy SG out of Washington who has quicker feet then morrison. Doesnt have nearly as good as a scorers mentality...but would be a better sg prospect in the nba. Morrison is going to have to most likely play SF at 6''8 and add a good 20 lbs solid muscle


Or If the bobcats can manage to get one of these players in the draft they should be fine barring injury

Adam Morrison [Best Scorer last year...needs to work on his defense and his slow feet]
Brandon Roy [Simple one of the best players in the country last year and can do everything]
JJ Redick [Needs to add weight but his 3 point shooting skills are amazing]
Rudy Gay [Athletic Enough to maybe make the transition to SG...6''9 SG wow]
Rudy Fernandez [Foreign Player supposed to be more complete then manu ginoboli was coming to the nba, 6''6 175 lbs. The only knack on the kid is his weight which people believe will severely kill him in the nba, Everything else is ace about this kid]


You team has the same problem as mine. The stars of the team can't stay leahty long enough to make a big impact. T-Mac and Yao both has combined to miss about 50 something games now and we only won like 5 without T-Mac. Yao has came out of no where and is just tearing the place up. I hope this continues into next season and hopefully T-mac will be ready aswell. Once we get ourselves a good bench and a good SG, then I think we should be fine.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 09:12 PM
You team has the same problem as mine. The stars of the team can't stay leahty long enough to make a big impact. T-Mac and Yao both has combined to miss about 50 something games now and we only won like 5 without T-Mac. Yao has came out of no where and is just tearing the place up. I hope this continues into next season and hopefully T-mac will be ready aswell. Once we get ourselves a good bench and a good SG, then I think we should be fine.


Honestly the rockets have 2 big holes imo

PG [Alston is a better bench player...cant run the floor and makes too many mistakes, I dont care about his 6+ assists] I heard there very interested in Dee Brown in this up and coming draft...that would be a huge addition

PF [You have no big man attack outside of yao...maybe draft shelden williams in the lottery this year]

Prime
04-06-2006, 09:26 PM
Honestly the rockets have 2 big holes imo

PG [Alston is a better bench player...cant run the floor and makes too many mistakes, I dont care about his 6+ assists] I heard there very interested in Dee Brown in this up and coming draft...that would be a huge addition

PF [You have no big man attack outside of yao...maybe draft shelden williams in the lottery this year]


Alston can be a good PG if he wants to be. From what I've seen of him during games, he can control the offense and he feeds Yao the ball alot, unlike some players on the team. His shooting is kind of bad, but he is a pass first kind of guy and he should stick to that. It has really hurt the players overall if Yao and T-Mac aren't in the game. It takes the pressure off of the other players and they can relax and play their own game. Sura was suppose to be the starting PG, but he's out for the whole season because of his knee. When he comes back next season, both should compete for that spot.

The only thing that's wrong with Swift is that he's dumber then a rock. He doesn't have the brains I think to be a greta player, but he has been doing a good job from the bench. Howard is our starting PF and I really like him as a player. He shots well and he will give you about 10+ points and around 7 rebounds per game. We do need to bring in a young PF who can help Yao on defense and take over when Howard retires, which is probably soon.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 09:30 PM
Alston can be a good PG if he wants to be. From what I've seen of him during games, he can control the offense and he feeds Yao the ball alot, unlike some players on the team. His shooting is kind of bad, but he is a pass first kind of guy and he should stick to that. It has really hurt the players overall if Yao and T-Mac aren't in the game. It takes the pressure off of the other players and they can relax and play their own game. Sura was suppose to be the starting PG, but he's out for the whole season because of his knee. When he comes back next season, both should compete for that spot.

The only thing that's wrong with Swift is that he's dummer then a rock. He doesn't have the brains I think to be a greta player, but he has been doing a good job from the bench. Howard is our starting PF and I really like him as a player. He shots well and he will give you about 10+ points and around 7 rebounds per game. We do need to bring in a young PF who can help Yao on defense and take over when Howard retires, which is probably soon.

Nets up 96-83

Looks like the bobcats gave a good fight but not strong enough up front to do anything

Felton so far 19 points and 7 assists

Jefferson on the other side has 33 points and 10 rebounds :eek:

King Felix
04-06-2006, 09:30 PM
i think the problem with the rockets is that they dont give the ball to yao enough espicially when mcgrady is on yao needs to take more shots than mcgrady.

Prime
04-06-2006, 09:42 PM
i think the problem with the rockets is that they dont give the ball to yao enough espicially when mcgrady is on yao needs to take more shots than mcgrady.


You are correct. T-Mac has always took alot of shots because he know's that he can take over the whole game. He has helped us many times and who can forget about the 13 points in the last 30 seconds against the Spurs last season. Man I will never forget that game.


BTW Budd, how has Lonny Baxter being doing with you guys? Bogans has been doing good here, but he isn't the same when he is a starter. He would be an awesome bench guy for us next season.

Buddwalk
04-06-2006, 09:48 PM
You are correct. T-Mac has always took alot of shots because he know's that he can take over the whole game. He has helped us many times and who can forget about the 13 points in the last 30 seconds against the Spurs last season. Man I will never forget that game.


BTW Budd, how has Lonny Baxter being doing with you guys? Bogans has been doing good here, but he isn't the same when he is a starter. He would be an awesome bench guy for us next season.

Baxter had like 2 games over 10 points, 1 where he came off the bench and got 18

He hasnt gotten any minutes lately though...only averaging like 3ppg too

Charlottes now got it to a 10 point game

101-111

ShuggieOtis
04-07-2006, 05:26 PM
wow its great to see this thread is still going. Ya Jefferson had a huge game last night 40 pts, 11 boards. Tomorrow vs. Cavs, Go Nets!

MARINO1384
04-07-2006, 05:40 PM
Redick will never lose his ability to hit 3 pointers one thing that makes him stick out from all the other duke busts.

Rudy Gay is not overrated he just needs to mature...when the kids on ask anyone on the court if they want to guard him or be guarded by him.

6''9 220 lb SG would be awesome though

I still think that Gay is overrated especially since he's coming out in the draft to go to the nba. Yeah he has potential and he needs to mature but u don't do that in the nba especially since he didn't really dominate in college.

Yes true Redick won't lose his shot but as i said he'll prolly be a very good bench player. You usaully don't have your 3 point specialist starting. If he proves he can distrubute the ball well and attack the basket in the nba then he'll start.

MARINO1384
04-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Nets up 96-83

Looks like the bobcats gave a good fight but not strong enough up front to do anything

Felton so far 19 points and 7 assists

Jefferson on the other side has 33 points and 10 rebounds :eek:

Yes the played a good game but the nets pulled carter with like 9 mintutes left in the 4th i believe so it prolly would of been more. But overall great game they gave the nets a good run in the beginning.

ShuggieOtis
04-07-2006, 05:55 PM
Nets up 96-83

Looks like the bobcats gave a good fight but not strong enough up front to do anything

Felton so far 19 points and 7 assists

Jefferson on the other side has 33 points and 10 rebounds :eek:

ya Felton is $$$$$

King Felix
04-09-2006, 01:32 PM
did u guys see that layup lebron did at the end of the game?? that was amazing

MARINO1384
04-09-2006, 02:09 PM
did u guys see that layup lebron did at the end of the game?? that was amazing

yes sadly. lol he's so strong i still don't know how he was able to hold on to it with both nets guys swiping at it.

ShuggieOtis
04-09-2006, 09:56 PM
did u guys see that layup lebron did at the end of the game?? that was amazing

ya crazy play. Kidd's had clean contact with the ball and lebron still put it in. Kidd's reaction was of total disbelief.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 08:56 AM
(I could not get into the site for a couple of weeks so that's why this is so late)


But as far as his production on the court, it has gone up this year and I would fully expect the trend to continue into the playoffs....unless someone knees him again. I dont think its unreasonable to expect 38 mpg in the playoffs.


His #s might be up slightly pewr minute but if he's not playing his usual minutes and not avering his usual #s that's a good thing for the opponent and to expect him to all of a sudden to play 7-8 ore mins is asking alot of Shaq at his age and the way he has worn down in recent years.


LOL!!! This Heat team is MUCH BETTER...good luck with that.



You won 59 games and were the top seed in the East last year, at most you'll win 54 games this year- how are you better? Last year you couldn't beat the top teams, this year you can't beat the topteams- how are you better? last year you dismantled the Nets not allowing them to win a game while this year the Nets are 4-1 against you- how are you better? keep telling yourself that and you migth actually start to believe it.


Obviously...when one team goes out and outperforms their expectations...it is gonna be hard to get the #1...the Heat being a mash unit will still win 55 games...and maybe more.



AHHH...NO. Look at Detroits run a couple years ago...nobody picked them to even win the ECF...and they ended up smashing the Lakers in the Finals.


That Piston team 2 years agi was better than this Heat team and I'm guessing that team didn't struggle so much all yar against top teams like this Heat team has done the past 2 years. bad comparison.


I was talking about the sports writers...the same parade happened last year...in fact..it was worst...you even had ESPN people predicting a Nets win.


The nets had been on a long streak and were getting Jefferson back, sometimes people go overboard.


What is sad is that you think that the Nets are a serious playoff contender.


I've seen the Nets in the Finals twice since 2002, I KNOW this team is a serious playoff contender.


Regular Season doesn't matter. One Example...the Heat when they lost to Indiana in the second round in Wade's rookie year...had gotten destroyed by Indiana in the regular season...when they actually played the series...the Heat lost in 6, but had a chance to win game 6 at the buzzer and force a game 7. Regular Season means nothing.


Indiana was sleepwalking in that series. They were thinking about Detroit all series long, they knew they weren't losing to Miami- that wa a little fool's gold on the part of Maimi fans to think you were going to win that series.


We have been injury riddled against the top teams this year, and your memory is failing you. The Heat didn't "stink" against the top teams last year.

You had a miserable record against the top teams, I remember posting it to you heading into the det series and this year it's been just as bad. I think against the Nets alone Shaq missed on game(the Heat's only win against the Nets) so the injruy excuse doesn't fly especially when healthy last year you were awful against the top teams.


The Nets this year are the same team as last year...no change...just healthier.

The Heat is healthy this year...I might remind you of that.

If you think this Nets tam is anywhere close to last year you just ahven't paid attention.

In your last post you were complaining how injury ravaged you were and now you are healthy? I can't wait to read your excuses when the heat don't make the Finals again.


Okay...let's give them a trophy or something.

You seem to want a trophy for the het losing in the Conf Fianls last year and getting the 2 seed this year.


Saw them...Congratulations on beating the Heat B team with the officials screwing SHAQ with 5 fouls (3 were BS) that put him on the bench in the 3rd quarter.


and the excuses continue...

Section126
04-17-2006, 09:22 AM
nyjunc...you are actually responding to a post from 3 weeks ago or so?

:sidelol:

Look...pay attention.

The Heat was not "horrible" against the best teams last year..

And stop adding wins to your Nets over the Heat..where do you get 4-1?

This Heat team is MUCH BETTER than last year's team....Last year's team had little or no bench, and was an awful rebounding team.

This year's team is ranked #1 in rebounding, and their bench is much improved and is one of the best in the league. The only thing last year's team had that was better was the overall 3 pt. shooting.

This Heat team is MUCH BETTER.

This team has been a mash unit all year..

They are better...mmmm-kay? Got it..okay.

Section126
04-17-2006, 09:35 AM
BTW...that Detroit team...nyjunc....was 3-6 against the division winners and 5-12 vs. the top 4 seeds in each conference.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:18 AM
nyjunc...you are actually responding to a post from 3 weeks ago or so?


i was away for 2 weeks and while I had internet access I could not get on the site for some reason.



The Heat was not "horrible" against the best teams last year..



What did Miami do against the better teams in the league in the reg season:

Vs. Dallas- 0-2
vs. SA- 1-1
vs. Det- 1-2
vs. Sea- 0-2
vs. Pho- 1-1
vs. Hou- 1-1
--------------
4-9 vs. the best teams in the league
55-14 vs. the rest of the league

-win % against the top teams was 31%
-win % against the also rans was 80%




I pulled up a thread from last year so you think 4-9 against the top teams is good?


And stop adding wins to your Nets over the Heat..where do you get 4-1?



3-1 whatever.


This Heat team is MUCH BETTER than last year's team....Last year's team had little or no bench, and was an awful rebounding team.


really? You were crowing about the heat's bench last year and that was your reason why Miami would beat Detorit in 6.:sidelol:

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=78226&page=3

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:26 AM
really? You were crowing about the heat's bench last year and that was your reason why Miami would beat Detorit in 6.:sidelol:

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=78226&page=3


How does that have anything to do with the price of peanuts?

Little to no bench as compared to this one....

Miami did have a better bench than Detroit last year..and they have a better one again this year.

This Heat team is much better than last year's Heat team...

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:30 AM
BTW...that Detroit team...nyjunc....was 3-6 against the division winners and 5-12 vs. the top 4 seeds in each conference.

Actually they were 4-8 against div winners and you forget about the wallace trade. prior to rasheed arriving the Pistons were 2-8 against div winners but they were 2-0 after rasheed. Did the heat acquire a player as good as rasheed in the last 2 mos?

They were 9-11 against the top 4 seeds in each conf(including 4-0 against Miami) and pre-Rasheed they were 6-10 and w/ rasheed they were 3-1.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:30 AM
How does that have anything to do with the price of peanuts?

Little to no bench as compared to this one....

Miami did have a better bench than Detroit last year..and they have a better one again this year.

This Heat team is much better than last year's Heat team...

you went on and on about how great Miami's bench was, telling me how great guys like jones and Haslem were but of course now that they are gone they aren't that good, right?

Ferretsquig
04-17-2006, 10:32 AM
you went on and on about how great Miami's bench was, telling me how great guys like jones and Haslem were but of course now that they are gone they aren't that good, right?

:confused:

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:38 AM
you went on and on about how great Miami's bench was, telling me how great guys like jones and Haslem were but of course now that they are gone they aren't that good, right?


UHH...Haslem is still here...and he is not a bench player.

Jones was a starter.

and yes...I like Damon Jones...but he is not half the player J-Will is...not HALF...so we improved at PG.

Again...what are you talking about?

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:43 AM
UHH...Haslem is still here...and he is not a bench player.

Jones was a starter.

and yes...I like Damon Jones...but he is not half the player J-Will is...not HALF...so we improved at PG.

Again...what are you talking about?


I meant dooling not haslem but last year all you talked about was how great the heat's bench was and how they'd win it b/c of that- now that bench wasn't that good but this bench is much better? You might have mroe talent but like I told you when you made the moves you don't have a better TEAM.

I just can't wait for the excuses after you lose and I am looking forward to next year when yuo tell us how this year's bench wasn't that good but next year's will be great:lol:

you wnet on and on about Damon Jones, while I tolf you he was an average player being made to look better by getting open shots b/c of shaq and wade you told me I was wrong and how good he was but now he sucked b/c he's gone?

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:46 AM
Actually they were 4-8 against div winners and you forget about the wallace trade. prior to rasheed arriving the Pistons were 2-8 against div winners but they were 2-0 after rasheed. Did the heat acquire a player as good as rasheed in the last 2 mos?

They were 9-11 against the top 4 seeds in each conf(including 4-0 against Miami) and pre-Rasheed they were 6-10 and w/ rasheed they were 3-1.


and what was the Heat's record versus the division winners and the top 4 seeds from each conference last year?

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:47 AM
and what was the Heat's record versus the division winners and the top 4 seeds from each conference last year?

I already posted their record against the best teams in the league last year. look back a few posts.

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:50 AM
I meant dooling not haslem but last year all you talked about was how great the heat's bench was and how they'd win it b/c of that- now that bench wasn't that good but this bench is much better? You might have mroe talent but like I told you when you made the moves you don't have a better TEAM.

I just can't wait for the excuses after you lose and I am looking forward to next year when yuo tell us how this year's bench wasn't that good but next year's will be great:lol:

you wnet on and on about Damon Jones, while I tolf you he was an average player being made to look better by getting open shots b/c of shaq and wade you told me I was wrong and how good he was but now he sucked b/c he's gone?


Did I say that he sucks? NO.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

We were talking about the two benches last year...and I said that the Heat's bench was better. I still think that.

I still think Damon Jones was and is a very good player.

I haven't changed any of my views.

I am just telling you..that this team is better.

If last year's team had as many injuries as this year's team...trust me...they would have won much less than 59 games...

THIS HEAT TEAM IS BETTER. MUCH BETTER.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 10:51 AM
Did I say that he sucks? NO.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

We were talking about the two benches last year...and I said that the Heat's bench was better. I still think that.

I still think Damon Jones was and is a very good player.

I haven't changed any of my views.

I am just telling you..that this team is better.

If last year's team had as many injuries as this year's team...trust me...they would have won much less than 59 games...

THIS HEAT TEAM IS BETTER. MUCH BETTER.

So you must think Heat in 4 against detroit?

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:52 AM
I already posted their record against the best teams in the league last year. look back a few posts.


NO..I asked you to post the same records you posted from the Pistons.

The Heat's record versus the Division winners and their record vs. the top 4 seeds from each conference. (last year)

Then compare them to the Pistons record against those same teams when they won it all.

Section126
04-17-2006, 10:53 AM
So you must think Heat in 4 against detroit?


There you go again.

have I said that?

Section126
04-17-2006, 11:01 AM
NO..I asked you to post the same records you posted from the Pistons.

The Heat's record versus the Division winners and their record vs. the top 4 seeds from each conference. (last year)

Then compare them to the Pistons record against those same teams when they won it all.


here...I will help you out nyjunc...since you don't want to post the records.

The heat was 8-9 versus the top 4 seeds from each conference.

they were 5-7 versus the Div. winners.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 11:06 AM
NO..I asked you to post the same records you posted from the Pistons.

The Heat's record versus the Division winners and their record vs. the top 4 seeds from each conference. (last year)

Then compare them to the Pistons record against those same teams when they won it all.

the comparison isn't as fair since the realingment. Now there are 6 div winners instead of 4 but I'll play along anyway:

Even w/ a poor Bos team thrown is the Heat were only 5-7 against div winners(take out Bos and they were 3-6).

Against the top 4 from each conf(again not fair since the west was better but I'll play along):


They were 9-9 BUT 6 of those wins came against Bos and Chi take them out and the record is 3-8.

The real best teams in the league were Dal, SA, Sea, Det, Hou, Pho and against those teams they went 4-9.

Section126
04-17-2006, 11:18 AM
the comparison isn't as fair since the realingment. Now there are 6 div winners instead of 4 but I'll play along anyway:

Even w/ a poor Bos team thrown is the Heat were only 5-7 against div winners(take out Bos and they were 3-6).

Against the top 4 from each conf(again not fair since the west was better but I'll play along):


They were 9-9 BUT 6 of those wins came against Bos and Chi take them out and the record is 3-8.

The real best teams in the league were Dal, SA, Sea, Det, Hou, Pho and against those teams they went 4-9.

Okay. Now what was Detroits record against the same teams the year they won it all? You see what i am getting at?

Those records mean nothing.

Your final record and seeding is all that matters.

Or are you going to argue that the Wizards are better than the Pistons this year?

FinsNYanksFan13
04-17-2006, 11:23 AM
The Nets fans shouldn't be worrying about the Heat, they should be hoping they don't see Indiana in the first round. I think the Nets would get past the Pacers but the Pacers aren't going to lay down and the Nets will have their hands full!

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 11:28 AM
The Nets fans shouldn't be worrying about the Heat, they should be hoping they don't see Indiana in the first round. I think the Nets would get past the Pacers but the Pacers aren't going to lay down and the Nets will have their hands full!

The only team I'd have any worries about among the potential opponents is washington.

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 11:30 AM
Okay. Now what was Detroits record against the same teams the year they won it all? You see what i am getting at?

Those records mean nothing.

Your final record and seeding is all that matters.

Or are you going to argue that the Wizards are better than the Pistons this year?

The wizards didn't make the playoffs in '04. The top 4 in the East in '04 were Ind, NJ, det and Miami and that foursome was MUCH better than last year's foursome. last year there were 2 big time teams and in '04 there were 3 so Det had to play double the big time teams than Miami did last year.

Section126
04-17-2006, 11:34 AM
The wizards didn't make the playoffs in '04. The top 4 in the East in '04 were Ind, NJ, det and Miami and that foursome was MUCH better than last year's foursome. last year there were 2 big time teams and in '04 there were 3 so Det had to play double the big time teams than Miami did last year.


You are not paying attention.

I asked you if you think the Wizards are better than the Pistons this year.

So are they?

nyjunc
04-17-2006, 11:37 AM
You are not paying attention.

I asked you if you think the Wizards are better than the Pistons this year.

So are they?

Yes the wizards are better than the pistons:rolleyes2

Section126
04-17-2006, 11:38 AM
Yes the wizards are better than the pistons


At least you are consistent.

MARINO1384
04-17-2006, 01:58 PM
The Nets fans shouldn't be worrying about the Heat, they should be hoping they don't see Indiana in the first round. I think the Nets would get past the Pacers but the Pacers aren't going to lay down and the Nets will have their hands full!

We aren't and niether are the Nets that's why there going to do well in the playoffs because there just gonna go out a play and have fun and win cuz that's there game.

Buddwalk
04-17-2006, 01:59 PM
Im thinking of starting a bobcats thread...whos with me :wink: :wink: :wink:

ShuggieOtis
04-17-2006, 06:21 PM
Damon Jones = ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

MARINO1384
04-17-2006, 09:11 PM
Damon Jones = ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

yeah but he killed us last year in the playoffs : (

dob72
05-16-2006, 11:15 PM
guess not lol

Rocky Raccoon
05-16-2006, 11:16 PM
Im thinking of starting a bobcats thread...whos with me :wink: :wink: :wink:

crickets

:lol:

icephinfan
05-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Watch out Eastern Conference!

Maybe next year!!!!:D

dominizzo
05-16-2006, 11:27 PM
I hate Carter soo im happy now

Section126
05-16-2006, 11:28 PM
Come on guys..why did you bump this?

Okay..I'll get in the act.

Let me see here....

Section126
05-16-2006, 11:29 PM
What about the Heat on their Game?

The Nets aren't even close....

wow...maybe they can win one or two games against us this time.


The PLAYOFFS are a VERY different animal guys.





BTW...isn't it funny how quickly everybody forgets that the Nets were the hottest team in Basketball LAST YEAR in March and April....the Heat was stumbling around...some sports writers started writing that the Nets would beat Miami...

Then they played. 4-0 Heat.

People really have short memories.


I have a crystal ball.

OR

I know NBA playoff basketball...

Section126
05-16-2006, 11:30 PM
Your a heat homer, enough said

Last year jefferson was injured so when the playoffs came he was out of rhythm, and vince carter and kidd didnt form a connection on the court...this year is much much different


Yeah, they lost 4-1 this time.

Section126
05-16-2006, 11:31 PM
Jefferson is healthy, kirstic is experienced, kidd is playing his best ball ever, and vince carter has formed a connectivity with all the players on the court something he didnt have last year. The nets are a better team then the heat man face it


AHHHHH NO.

52 wins vs. 49 wins...and 4-1.