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03-29-2006, 06:06 PM
who r some corners in the draft we could steal? as well as who would u want most in the draft this year

BB Ocho
03-29-2006, 06:13 PM

03-29-2006, 06:15 PM
Antonio from Fl st.? i forgot about him

dan the fin
03-29-2006, 06:28 PM

Detroit Lions
Round 1, Pick 9
Bob Leverone/TSN
Overall grade: 8.3
Position rank: 1
225lb bench: 12
NFL comparison:
Antoine Winfield, Vikings

Height: 5-9 Weight: 185
40-yard dash: 4.30 10-yard dash: 1.50
20-yard shuttle: 4.01 60-yard shuttle: 11.17
Broad jump: 10-9 225-lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 6.63 Vertical jump: 41
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.53

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Tye Hill
CB, Clemson

War Room analysis
Coverage skills: Has all the ideal attributes except size. Is quick, and has blazing speed. Makes sudden cuts. Shows good awareness and instincts in zone coverage. Is good in tight man-to-man coverage. Is excellent in bump-and-run coverage. Is smooth and fluid to turn and run with the fastest receivers. Tracks downfield passes nicely. Must improve technique. Grade: 8.0.

Run/pass recognition: Is improving, but remains a work in progress. Gets a quick jump on passes in front of him. Has a nice feel for receivers breaking off routes. Is learning to read quarterbacks' eyes. Grade: 8.0.

Closing speed: Is strong in this area. Makes quick and smooth cuts. Doesn't lose much in transition. Has the explosive closing burst and speed to catch up to passes. Grade: 8.5.

Ball skills: Is an outstanding playmaker. Shows good instincts, but must improve ability to locate the ball. Is tough, physical and aggressive. Has terrific leaping ability to challenge receivers on jump balls. Is a threat to score after any interception. Grade: 8.3.

Run support: Is aggressive against the run, but will struggle in the NFL because of his lack of size and bulk. Is tough and not afraid to fill the hole hard. Is a solid open-field tackler with good technique. Grade: 8.1.

Bottom line: Hill is a former running back who continues to learn to play defense. He will benefit greatly from working on technique with NFL coaches. Despite a lack of ideal size, he is a terrific athlete and plays big and tough. His stock soared after a great week at the Senior Bowl, where he dominated receivers daily. Hill is an explosive playmaker and should be one of the top cornerbacks selected.


Hill is well short of ideal size, but proved he can play great man-press coverage at the Senior Bowl. He backed it up with a standout performance at the Combine. He will go through position drills at the Clemson pro day, but the body of his work is done. Hill may not have the size to surpass Jimmy Williams or Michael Huff, but he has closed the gap. -- War Room scouts

03-29-2006, 06:29 PM
i wouldnt mind either of those guys any other ones u can think of?

03-29-2006, 06:36 PM
what about Jimmy Williams from Virginia Tech

dan the fin
03-29-2006, 06:44 PM

St. Louis Rams
Round 1, Pick 11
Bob Leverone/TSN
Overall grade: 8.1
Position rank: 2
225lb bench: 6
NFL comparison:
Chris McAlister, Ravens

Height: 6-2 Weight: 216
40-yard dash: 4.41 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 4.10 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 9-8 225-lb. bench: 12
3-cone drill: 6.69 Vertical jump: 33
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

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Jimmy Williams
CB, Virginia Tech

War Room analysis
Coverage skills: Has great height, size, speed and long arms. Is a versatile playmaker. Can play cornerback or safety. Excels in man-to-man coverage, and easily reroutes receivers. Has excellent strength, is physical and challenges for jump balls. Uses size effectively in the red zone. Shows quick, fluid hip movement to turn and run with any receiver. Excels at changing directions. Must improve zone awareness. Grade: 8.4.

Run/pass recognition: Shows only adequate awareness. Gets caught peeking into the backfield; tends to lock on to the quarterback, and must focus more on receivers. Grade: 8.2.

Closing speed: Has rare quickness, change-of-direction skills and speed. Makes quick cuts in tight spaces. Is smooth. Shows an outstanding burst on the ball. Grade: 8.6.

Ball skills: Is a natural playmaker. Is aggressive, and has the size and strength to win battles. Shows good hands. Is a threat to score after every interception. Grade: 8.7.

Run support: Has good size, bulk and strength. Comes up and fills the hole hard. Is physical, tackles well and hits hard. Grade: 8.7.

Bottom line: Williams’s stock is in a freefall after poor showings at the NFL Combine in February and at Virginia Tech’s on-campus workout March 16. And a couple NFL coaches have told us that he is off their teams' draft boards all together. Williams is a big guy who can run but lacks explosiveness and strength. He takes risks and is undisciplined, and he shows poor work habits and questionable character. Plus, he turned off many coaches and scouts at the NFL Combine when he didn't work out and then showed a cockiness and bad attitude during interviews with team officials. After a poor senior season and poor NFL Combine appearance, Williams needed an elite performance at the pre-draft workout at Virginia Tech. Instead, he looked pedestrian.

The good news is the '06 cornerback class is not deep, likely limiting Williams' fall to the middle of Day 1. Some teams already viewed him as a safety rather than a cornerback. He has the size and straight-line speed to make the switch but might lack the intellect to play safety.

No matter, Williams no longer is the No. 1 cornerback. And he certainly isn't the No. 1 safety. Texas safety Michael Huff now is the top defensive back in the '06 draft, and Clemson's Tye Hill and Florida State's Antonio Cromartie are the top cornerbacks. Cromartie, who tore three knee ligaments in July 2005 and didn't play last season, had a stellar workout last week for NFL scouts and coaches.

Dan Pompei analysis
Has a nice combination of size, athleticism and speed. Also could play safety. Would be best suited in a zone scheme. Is tough and physical in run support.

03-29-2006, 06:51 PM
good stats where r u getting that

dan the fin
03-29-2006, 07:08 PM
good stats where r u getting that
Its from Sporting News War Room, the site is awsome, great draft info. And during the season they break down all the match-ups and such. But you have to pay for it and its like $40 a year.

03-29-2006, 07:26 PM
then ill rely on u for everything then haha

03-29-2006, 07:48 PM
Ashton Youbouty

dan the fin
03-29-2006, 07:51 PM

New York Jets
Round 2, Pick 3
Jay Drowns/TSN
Overall grade: 7.8
Position rank: 5
225lb bench: 30
NFL comparison:
Al Harris, Packers

Height: 5-11 Weight: 189
40-yard dash: 4.43 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 4.18 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-0 225-lb. bench: 11
3-cone drill: 6.96 Vertical jump: 36
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

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Ashton Youboty
CB, Ohio State

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has good height and the frame to add bulk. Is a natural athlete with good straight-line speed. Shows smooth hip movements, and changes directions well. Shows burst in and out of breaks. Shows good instincts, intelligence and the ability to make big plays. Uses height and leaping ability to challenge receivers downfield. Is relentless and intense. Will sacrifice his body in run support. Is a reliable open-field tackler. Can return punts.

Weaknesses: Must get stronger. Will struggle against NFL running backs and blockers. Must improve run/pass-recognition skills. Lacks great feel for reading quarterbacks' eyes. Takes too many risks in coverage, resulting in big plays. Must polish technique. Is inconsistent.

Bottom line: Youboty is an underclassman with great potential. Given time and more coaching, he should become a shutdown cornerback. He is a playmaker who works best in man-to-man coverage, but he struggles because of inconsistent technique and play-recognition skills. Youboty's outstanding size, athletic ability and speed could merit first-round consideration. More likely, he will be picked early in the second round.

03-29-2006, 08:18 PM
Cromartie is my fav corner in the draft. Maybe get Minter in the third

03-30-2006, 12:53 AM
i like jason williams because he can play corner and safety. top ten pick before injury.