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L 2 the T
04-05-2006, 09:25 PM
hey what do you guys think about this guy in the first, I just think he'd be a monster for us for years.

motioncityhifi
04-05-2006, 09:29 PM
would be a great pickup just not at 16. if we trade down into the low to mid 20s would be an excellent pick.

L 2 the T
04-05-2006, 09:33 PM
could be the best we had since dwight stevens.

motioncityhifi
04-05-2006, 09:37 PM
well ill wait to see the guy play a down in the nfl before i compare him to stephenson. he would be the best talent wise we have had at center in a long time.

RHoffman
04-05-2006, 09:40 PM
:dolphins:

finfan54
04-05-2006, 09:42 PM
I wouldnt care if we did draft him at 16. People want a WR who would be either injured or just like some other average wide reciever while Mangold would be a pro bowler for years with Houck as his mentor. Its a no brainer to me.

We need a leader on the OL and Mangold fits the bill. I wouldnt care what anyone would say about taking him at 16. a Great player is a great player at any position. You cant lose!

finfan54
04-05-2006, 09:46 PM
:dolphins:

Trade down with who though, that is the question. The jets now sit at one spot and NE the other. Denver already moved up. I think in the end, Saban will stick to getting Greenway or his coveted S at that spot and hopefully have someone to trade down with as a backup plan.


but I would have no qualms about taking the stud center. None whatsoever.

t2thejz
04-05-2006, 10:16 PM
I wouldnt have a problem with it, altough it is unlikley to happen at 16. Saben would trade down if thats the guy he wants

phinfan_1
04-05-2006, 10:54 PM
I honestly wouldn't mind taking him at 16. Instant impact player. Smart guy, could pick up the plays quickly. Help the entire oline.

dominizzo
04-06-2006, 12:18 AM
U mean Dwight Stevenson

miamiron
04-10-2006, 05:18 PM
once and for all

Jay Cutler did 24 bench presses and Mangold did 23.:sidelol:

Does this create any doubt in your mind that a skinny QB
can bench press more than the stud center.:sidelol:

Upper body strength is very important and I would like my offensive line to be considerably stronger than a quaterback.

If Mangold would have punched out 30-45 bench presses I would feel much more comfortable but only 23 is reason of concern.

Houck did wonders for our offensive line and with a little training I'm sure
he could turn Jay Cutler into one fine center:sidelol:

Take care,
MiamiRon

Spray Mucus
04-10-2006, 05:21 PM
once and for all

Jay Cutler did 24 bench presses and Mangold did 23.:sidelol:


Cutler is one strong MO'FO... I had no idea he put the bar up that many times.

23 is very good gfor a QB or any guy his size.

Mangold on the other hand should be around the 30-35 mark, 24 is pretty bad for a Lineman.

MiamiMan147
04-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Cutler is not a skinny QB. He lifted more than a lot of guys at the combine.

Your arguement is weak.

Crowder52
04-10-2006, 06:51 PM
once and for all

Jay Cutler did 24 bench presses and Mangold did 23.:sidelol:

Does this create any doubt in your mind that a skinny QB
can bench press more than the stud center.:sidelol:

Upper body strength is very important and I would like my offensive line to be considerably stronger than a quaterback.

If Mangold would have punched out 30-45 bench presses I would feel much more comfortable but only 23 is reason of concern.

Houck did wonders for our offensive line and with a little training I'm sure
he could turn Jay Cutler into one fine center:sidelol:

Take care,
MiamiRon

Football isn't played in a weight room. Few if any movements simulate the bench press, where the body is parallel to the ground and the back is supported. In fact I can't think of one. Clean and press would be much more like getting under someone's shoulder pads and pushing them back. In the mid 90's under Tom Osborne, Nebraska didn't even have bench presses in their team weight room. Squats and cleans are the real football power-builders. So you're gonna fault an All-American for not having an outstanding bench press? It's crazy that they even have these guys perform the bench press. What's even crazier is that fans think that it means something.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
04-10-2006, 06:58 PM
cutler is a strong guy, his results are not a knock on mangold. and i don't think mangold is valuable enough to take at 16. centers just aren't taken that high, and if we want him, we should trade down.

Crowder52
04-10-2006, 07:18 PM
Agreed, obviously trading down is ideal. But if we don't have a trade partner, I'm all for taking Mangold at 16. It's high for a center, but if he turns into a Pro-Bowler then we won't be calling it a reach a few years from now.

crowder_rules
04-10-2006, 07:22 PM
what in the hell are you talking about? why a center? it's neither bpa or need.

and i'd love to carry four natural centers on the roster:
rex hadnot
seth mckinney
wade smith
and a rookie too

great idea. no. that's a horrible idea.

Crowder52
04-10-2006, 07:24 PM
The fact that we have warm bodies at center doesn't mean it isn't a need...

FansinceJan'72
04-10-2006, 07:32 PM
you can't believe these mock projections. most of the draft choices will bust regardless, so, get the player you want even though it isn't WHERE you want.

RunRickyRun34
04-10-2006, 08:29 PM
Agreed, obviously trading down is ideal. But if we don't have a trade partner, I'm all for taking Mangold at 16. It's high for a center, but if he turns into a Pro-Bowler then we won't be calling it a reach a few years from now.

Thank God your not a member of our front office

Crowder52
04-11-2006, 12:44 AM
Thank God your not a member of our front office

The last guard/center to go near #16 was Steve Hutchinson, #17 pick in the 2001 draft. Best at his position. But boy, I bet the Seahawks wish they could have that pick back. They really "reached" taking a guard that early. The Ohio St. line coach compares Mangold favorable to Lecharles Bentley, the Saints Pro-Bowl center. But who wants a Pro-Bowl center? Let's keep ignoring O-line like we have for a while. Who is it, by the way, that you want to take?