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Ronnieisabeast
04-14-2006, 10:11 PM
would be a much better option for this team than signing Arrington. Greenway is cheaper and he is less injury-prone than Arrington. Crowder is our run-stopper,now we can get our pass coverage linebacker. Greenway is fast and one heck of a playmaker. He just has those rare football instincts, and combined with a never-ending motor could make him the steal of the 1st round. He would make a old defense younger, and vasily improve our pass defense. The risk with Greenway is, of course, he might not be there for us in the frist.

Geforce
04-14-2006, 11:06 PM
I must give Greenway credit, he has a lot of fans support on this forum.

Jimmy James
04-14-2006, 11:16 PM
I don't think Nick is looking for a coverage linebacker. He's looking for a pass rushing linebacker who can play all downs. Therefore, I think Bobby Carpenter is the LB that best fits what Nick wants.

Phins28
04-14-2006, 11:20 PM
I don't think Nick is looking for a coverage linebacker. He's looking for a pass rushing linebacker who can play all downs. Therefore, I think Bobby Carpenter is the LB that best fits what Nick wants.

Agreed 100%, also Greenway is to weak to play in the 3-4, he can't shedd blocks. These are the three LB that fits Saban style:

1. Kamerion Wimbley
2. Manny Lawson
3. Bobby Carpenter

Jimmy James
04-14-2006, 11:28 PM
Agreed 100%, also Greenway is to weak to play in the 3-4, he can't shedd blocks. These are the three LB that fits Saban style:

1. Kamerion Wimbley
2. Manny Lawson
3. Bobby Carpenter

The first two may be better pass rushers, but I doubt their ability to cover (Lawson more than Wimbley). If Saban is just looking for a two down pass rushing LB, one of those two may be fine.

KB21
04-14-2006, 11:30 PM
The first two may be better pass rushers, but I doubt their ability to cover (Lawson more than Wimbley). If Saban is just looking for a two down pass rushing LB, one of those two may be fine.

Exactly. It appears that there are still some that believe Nick Saban runs a straight up 3-4 defense and only wants pass rushers at the outside linebacker spots.

Bobby Carpenter is a great fit for this scheme. I have Chad Greenway higher on my list, but Carpenter is definitely on my list. Unlike Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley, Bobby Carpenter has proven that he can make the pass drops and cover like a linebacker is supposed to do with the added benefit of being a very good blitzer. Carpenter had 8 sacks this past season from his strongside linebacker spot in Ohio State's defense.

Ronnieisabeast
04-15-2006, 09:16 AM
I don't think Nick is looking for a coverage linebacker. He's looking for a pass rushing linebacker who can play all downs. Therefore, I think Bobby Carpenter is the LB that best fits what Nick wants.Make no doubt about it Greenway is a pretty good pass rusher too. He knows hard to play sideline-to-sideline and always gets to where he needs to be. He may be weak, but his technique makes up for it. He will be best as a weak-side linebacker which is what we need.

PSU Cane
04-15-2006, 11:41 AM
Honestly, Greenway had a very good pro day and i think he'll be gone by the time the Phins pick.

skimarino13
04-15-2006, 04:28 PM
hahahahaha, what are you talking about????? Greenway is very good, but a better option that arrington. yes arrington is expensive, but he is maybe the best olb in the game today. he was the #2 pick in the draft, greenway isnt even the top olb in the draft. i would love greenway, but no way comparable to arrington. he would be so huge for us

Jimmy James
04-15-2006, 04:46 PM
hahahahaha, what are you talking about????? Greenway is very good, but a better option that arrington. yes arrington is expensive, but he is maybe the best olb in the game today.

:sidelol:

Stop it, you're killing me.

If Arrington were CLOSE to being the best OLB in the game today, he'd have a contract with a team.

:lol:

Geforce
04-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Honestly, Greenway had a very good pro day and i think he'll be gone by the time the Phins pick.

Greenway's Pro Day was an improvement over what he did at the Combine but I hope the hamstring he pulled heals completely or it will bother him for quite some time.

Geforce
04-15-2006, 05:47 PM
:sidelol:

Stop it, you're killing me.

If Arrington were CLOSE to being the best OLB in the game today, he'd have a contract with a team.

:lol:

:shakeno: He doesn't have a contract with a team by choice. Not because teams doesn't want him.

Jimmy James
04-15-2006, 05:50 PM
:shakeno: He doesn't have a contract with a team by choice. Not because teams doesn't want him.

Right. :rolleyes2

He wants a contract like Peterson got. If he were the best OLB in the game, he'd have it.

Ronnieisabeast
04-15-2006, 06:56 PM
hahahahaha, what are you talking about????? Greenway is very good, but a better option that arrington. yes arrington is expensive, but he is maybe the best olb in the game today. he was the #2 pick in the draft, greenway isnt even the top olb in the draft. i would love greenway, but no way comparable to arrington. he would be so huge for usI never said Greenway was better than Arrington. I just think he is a better choice for this team. Btw, Arrington isn't the best OLB in the NFL.

skimarino13
04-15-2006, 08:11 PM
arrington is for sure up there as one of the elite olb's in the game. greenway is very good, but you cant choose greenway over the proven talent like arrington

Miamifin23
04-15-2006, 09:01 PM
Arrington is the best option because it would allow us to draft a S which we are desperate for. We have no legitimate starting S at this point and we need one with the 16th pick. If it came down to LB's tho I would much rather have Sims, Lawson, or Wimbley over Greenway. And further than that I probably would rather see Demeco Ryans over Greenway.

Dors156
04-15-2006, 09:03 PM
i think we should pass on him.i think he lacks strength big time

Geforce
04-15-2006, 09:19 PM
Right. :rolleyes2

He wants a contract like Peterson got. If he were the best OLB in the game, he'd have it.

:rolleyes: But that's not what you said originally. :rolleyes2 Also the best players are not always the highest paid.

Ronnieisabeast
04-16-2006, 09:23 AM
Arrington is the best option because it would allow us to draft a S which we are desperate for. We have no legitimate starting S at this point and we need one with the 16th pick. If it came down to LB's tho I would much rather have Sims, Lawson, or Wimbley over Greenway. And further than that I probably would rather see Demeco Ryans over Greenway.That's not true. Bell can start at SS, and Hill can start at FS. Bell is the playmaker while Hill is the hard-hitting,run stopper.

skimarino13
04-16-2006, 11:29 AM
we are over analyzing this. arrington is better than greenway, regardlesss of the money, end of story

Jimmy James
04-16-2006, 12:22 PM
:rolleyes: But that's not what you said originally.

I stand by what I said originally. Do you actually think if he were one of the top 3 LBs in the game, he would still be on the market? He cannot find an acceptable deal because his talent isn't worth what his ego thinks it is.


:rolleyes2 Also the best players are not always the highest paid.

They most certainly are when they reach free agency. The reason some players are underpaid is because they were draft or rookie free agent steals. Wale was one. Clinton Portis was one. What happened, exactly, when those two even came close to the open market? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Disgustipate
04-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Greenway is not really a need, and we've got players to fill the positions he could play at in the Dolphins defense.

Miami needs someone who can line up over the Tight End on the line of scrimmage and do the dirty work. He needs to be able to deal with fighting off the Tight End or Tackle on most plays, blitz, etc.

Greenway is a Weakside linebacker. He'd be playing backed up off of the line of scrimmage over the Left Guard most of the time, at the position Channing Crowder plays. He's best playing in space and being allowed to go sideline to sideline.

Jimmy James
04-16-2006, 12:53 PM
Bobby Carpenter is the LB Miami needs.

Disgustipate
04-16-2006, 01:00 PM
Bobby Carpenter is the LB Miami needs.

Carpenter is probabaly the best fit for the position, but I like Lawson a little bit more because of the upside.

kkcow15
04-16-2006, 02:12 PM
arrington is not good. greenway isn't either. neither one of them is the solution.

Geforce
04-16-2006, 02:24 PM
arrington is not good. greenway isn't either. neither one of them is the solution.

What are you basing this on?