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BAMAPHIN 22
04-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Actor Tom Cruise says his Catholic-born fiance, actress Katie Holmes, has joined him as a follower of the Church of Scientology but insists that doesn't mean she can't make noise when she gives birth to their child.

Cruise, 43, addressed questions about the religious faith of his pregnant bride-to-be, the child they are expecting and Scientology's practice of "silent birth" in an ABC News television interview set for broadcast Friday.

Excerpts from the interview, conducted by Diane Sawyer, were released by the Walt Disney Co.-owned network as part of a publicity blitz linking the impending birth of Cruise's first biological child with his upcoming film, "Mission: Impossible: III."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12306617/

Majpain
04-15-2006, 01:22 PM
Sincetology is a religion?:hmmm:


Tom Cruise is a peice of crap.Oh she can make some noise.Oh shut up.Katie needs to stand up and say no ***** im going to scream:fire:

Dolphin1184
04-15-2006, 01:30 PM
Sincetology is a religion?:hmmm:


Tom Cruise is a peice of crap.Oh she can make some noise.Oh shut up.Katie needs to stand up and say no ***** im going to scream:fire:

:lol:

PassRush
04-15-2006, 01:31 PM
I bring nothing to the table in this discussion

Prime Time
04-15-2006, 01:39 PM
Scientology is just very weird to me. I don't even really understand how or why it works?

dolphan117
04-15-2006, 02:46 PM
Scientology is just very weird to me. I don't even really understand how or why it works?
Wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology)


The central practice of Scientology is "auditing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditing_%28Scientology%29)" (from the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) word audire,"to listen" -- but note the similarity to the administrative procedure), which is one-on-one communication with a trained Scientology counselor or "auditor". The auditor follows an exact procedure toward rehabilitating the human spirit. Most auditing uses an E-meter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter), a device that measures galvanic skin response (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_skin_response).
This is what the E-meter is


In use it is a galvanometer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanometer), quite similar to one of the measurements a lie detector (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_detector) makes. The person holds in his hands two tin can-like objects attached to the E-Meter, thereby completing an electrical circuit through which a small, low-voltage electric current is passed. The needle of the meter shows the amount of current and is particularly sensitive to small changes in current. Such changes are caused by corresponding small changes the person has to electrical energy. This phenomenon is known as galvanic skin response (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_skin_response).
A person trained in its use is called an auditor. The person "holding the cans" is called the pre-clear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_%28Scientology%29). An auditor asks the pre-clear a question and the movement or lack of movement on the dial is used to help determine the pre-clear's reaction to the question asked.
So the religeon is based around someone asking you questions while you hold 2 tin cans to your head with electricity runing through them.

It should also be pointed out that this relegion was started by a sci fi writer. I have been told that it was all started when someone beting him in a bar that he couldnt start his own religeon and to prove he could do it he started scientology. I dont know for sure if thats true though.

NaboCane
04-15-2006, 03:46 PM
Scientology is just very weird to me. I don't even really understand how or why it works?

It's a religion without a God, which is strange in itself. But the bizarre methodologies, as described in 117's post, plus the requirement to accept as truth a science-fiction story of man's creation make it one of the most outlandish of the fringe sects.

It doesn't really "work" in and of itself, it functions as a support group for its members, providing a closed community for doing business in which members are preferential partners.

Metal Panda
04-15-2006, 03:48 PM
It's almost become a Celebrity cult, if you notice all the celebrities who are into it.

NaboCane
04-15-2006, 03:50 PM
It's almost become a Celebrity cult, if you notice all the celebrities who are into it.

Yep. Which adds to the mystique of the cult and attracts curiosity. Very, very strange thing.

The Rev
04-15-2006, 04:06 PM
Actor Tom Cruise says his Catholic-born fiance, actress Katie Holmes, has joined him as a follower of the Church of Scientology

Well thank goodness. We've been trying to get rid of her in our church since she hooked up with Cruise. Heathen! :wink: :tongue:

Agent51
04-15-2006, 04:15 PM
I've got a great Scientology story. I went to New York City last June for some huge Bartender convention. My boss paid for me and this other girl to go since we are the 2 highest ranking bartenders he has, and it's basically a trade show of new alcohol and bar/bartender products so he sent us there to check out all the latest stuff and order things we think would be good for the club. So anyway, it was a 3 day show I think and we got there on Saturday night. The show opened Sunday and we went and got wasted, for free since everything is samples and stuff in there, and we got literally BAGS full of free stuff (from liquor samples down to keychains, lol). The place wasn't that big though. It was in the Javits convention center, but not the huge building, it was in the smaller "tent" building next to it. So we decided instead of going back Monday and Tuesday we would just explore NYC on our boss' dime, lol. We had a company credit card and nothing but time on our hands and she had never been to NYC before (I'd been a bunch of times back when I lived in RI).

So we are walking and this guy is on the street and asks us if we wanna see a free movie. He handed us this cool looking little mini-card thing, like the size of a backstage pass, that had this awesome picture of space on it, and so we are thinking it is one of those IMAX things like a space movie and figure, what the hell, we have time to kill and it's free so if it sucks it doesn't matter. Well the guy starts leading us AWAY from the building he was standing in front of in Time's Square, which was a theatre, so then I'm thinkin, ok, this is odd. We go through all these back alleys and stuff and little side streets. At this point the girl I was with was getting nervous thinking he was gonna kill us, lol, but I told her to relax, he's like 5'10 and weighs 100 pounds tops, lol. So he brings us to this building and we go inside and there is this HUGE "Scientology" inscription. I'm like, GREAT.

Inside you like go down these HUGE stairs and then he brought us to this lady and told her "we got a couple more interested in Scientology". She is like "Oh, wonderful!" and brings us down this hallway that has all these touch screens and tells us she is going to show us a video but we have to wait for the first group to be done, because "we can't see the end without the beining, and the video will change our lives forever." So she leaves us in the hallway and tells us to look at all the screens and watch the mini clips for a brief history and just use the touch screens to go to the next one. At this point I'm pretty sketched out that this is like a cult just b the way the people were acting, the fact that it's basically in the basement of a building, and that the video will "change my life forever, I'll never be the same". Of course the girl with me was freaked out and she is like "lets leave" except the back door was an emergency exit, and the people in the front were all like staring at us. Then the clip the lady started was done and my friend told me to play the next one, I'm like "I'm not touching that, it's prolly a fingerprint scanner" half-joking, half serious, lol. So then she presses it and I was like "yep, now they know everything about you, they are gonna hunt you down if we ever get outta here" Then she was just like "we really need to go, there is something about this place." When I saw the lady leave her front desk I was like "let's go" and we went down the hallway and back to the giant stairs and I'm thinkin we were home free then the desk lady comes down the stairs and goes "where are you going, you can't leave until you see the video, you HAVE to see the video" almost in an angry tone, and we just walked right past here, out the door, and, I'm not gonna lie, we ran to the next street over, :lol:.

It was SUCH a weird experience and I had never really read about or thought about scientology before except that it was "all the rage" in Hollywood now. Man, don't EVER agree to see a free movie from a weird looking nerdy guy while in NYC.

Oh, the best part? When we got home I went to the scientology website and signed her up for info, so she got a pamphlet in the mail and freaked out. When she told me I was like "see, shouldn't have touched the screen, now they have your fingerprints and know where you live." :sidelol:

ABrownLamp
04-15-2006, 04:15 PM
Sincetology is a religion?:hmmm:


Yes. They became the Church of Scientology so they wouldnt have to pay taxes

FinaciousOne
04-15-2006, 04:26 PM
Was it OK to make noise while they were making the baby?

NaboCane
04-15-2006, 04:30 PM
Was it OK to make noise while they were making the baby?

:sidelol:

cnc66
04-15-2006, 04:37 PM
Oh, the best part? When we got home I went to the scientology website and signed her up for info, so she got a pamphlet in the mail and freaked out. When she told me I was like "see, shouldn't have touched the screen, now they have your fingerprints and know where you live."

OMG to damned funny 51 :sidelol:

Silverphin
04-15-2006, 05:43 PM
You know what, I'm going to make my own religion. The rules: No Bill, Jets, or Patriot Fans allowed! (As well as the usual rules based on morals. You know, no rape, etc, etc).

Blitz
04-15-2006, 11:25 PM
It should also be pointed out that this relegion was started by a sci fi writer. I have been told that it was all started when someone beting him in a bar that he couldnt start his own religeon and to prove he could do it he started scientology. I dont know for sure if thats true though.

I've heard it was a bet he made with the Big Three of science fiction: Isaac Asimov (Author of I, Robot), Arthur Clarke (Author of 2001: A Space Odyssey) and Robert Heinlein (Author of Stranger in a Strange Land).

HysterikiLL
04-15-2006, 11:47 PM
Scientology is just very weird to me. I don't even really understand how or why it works?

There is no exact answer to the questions of scientology. It is merely the worshipping of the Dark Lord Xenu.

Gonzo
04-15-2006, 11:48 PM
I've heard it was a bet he made with the Big Three of science fiction: Isaac Asimov (Author of I, Robot), Arthur Clarke (Author of 2001: A Space Odyssey) and Robert Heinlein (Author of Stranger in a Strange Land).

:lol: Yeah, but they were good writers. L. Ron Hubbard was a hack, so I doubt he was hanging out with them.


Here is the book that started it all:
Dianetics (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/088404632X/sr=8-1/qid=1145159158/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

And don't let the ratings of his other books fool you. Scientologists survive by creating good publicity; even with something as simple as Amazon reviews. Battlefield Earth, which is considered his best book, is ****ing horrible (though the movie managed to be worse).

HysterikiLL
04-15-2006, 11:52 PM
Breaking News: Tom Cruise still won't come out of the closet.

HysterikiLL
04-15-2006, 11:53 PM
:lol: Yeah, but they were good writers. L. Ron Hubbard was a hack, so I doubt he was hanging out with them.


Here is the book that started it all:
Dianetics (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/088404632X/sr=8-1/qid=1145159158/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

And don't let the ratings of his other books fool you. Scientologists survive by creating good publicity; even with something as simple as Amazon reviews. Battlefield Earth, which is considered his best book, is ****ing horrible (though the movie managed to be worse).


:sidelol: I love this review:


29 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/04/stars10-1.gif Science or "science"?, March 25, 1999
Reviewer: A reader
Hubbard tells us he did all this "research" but he does not provide us with the methodology used, control group information, independent validation...
Instead of explaining a "modern science", this book provides an insight of the scientific methods used in the middle ages. "It is so because I say so".


That sums up scientology right there.

Gonzo
04-16-2006, 12:03 AM
:sidelol: I love this review:


29 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/customer-reviews/stars-1-0.gif Science or "science"?, March 25, 1999
Reviewer: A reader
Hubbard tells us he did all this "research" but he does not provide us with the methodology used, control group information, independent validation...
Instead of explaining a "modern science", this book provides an insight of the scientific methods used in the middle ages. "It is so because I say so".


That sums up scientology right there.
You can spot the brainwashed zombie scientologists pretty easy too. Not just by high ratings either; all their writing sound the same. For example:


http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/04/stars50-1.gif Best manual on "the mind" around, March 26, 2006
Reviewer:R Lorenzen (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-glance/-/ATF6V6BTJGG41/1/ref=cm_cr_auth/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8) (Florida) - See all my reviews (http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/ATF6V6BTJGG41/ref=cm_cr_auth/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8)I loved "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health". It is very much a manual of the mind. Most other books on the subject that I've read are just theories and are not really workable. I have tried the techniques as descibed in this book and loved the results! I have worked these techniques on others (what an adventure!) and had them worked on me. Smiles, laughter and happiness all around.

I would highly recommend anyone to read this book whether you think you have problems or not. There are people around you who do and these CAN be handled with these Dianetics techniques. I know; I've seen it. Also, it tells you why people do the things they do -- you know... those odd and bizarre things that keep you wondering about someone.

My recommendation? Read it and try it out.

Great book!
and


http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/04/stars50-1.gif Life Changing Book, March 12, 2006
Reviewer:Timothy R. Carleton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-glance/-/AXGF531FX0JRO/1/ref=cm_cr_auth/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8) - See all my reviews (http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/AXGF531FX0JRO/ref=cm_cr_auth/102-6858793-7591336?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/04/c7y_badge_rn_1-1.gif (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/14279681/pop-up/ref=cm_rn_bdg_help/102-6858793-7591336#RN) When I first encountered this book I was quite frankly in a very unpleasant place emotionally and looking for some help. While reading Dianetics I found the answers to why I felt bad most of the time and solutions to the situation I found myself in.
This book provided me specific answers to the exact parts of my mind that were giving me so much pain and weighing me down.
I experienced tremendous joy in first of all discovering that somebody did understand - that is, I wasn't the only one who felt this way - and secondly that here was a workable, effective way to handle the problem areas of my mind.
I went after and got the answers I was looking for by receiving processing based on the principles so brilliantly explained in the book and I haven't been the same since - thank you, thank you!!


Gratefully,
Tim Carleton
Tim Carleton = T.C.
T.C. = Tom Cruise
Coincidence?
We're on to you, Krazy McLoony (Clooney?! :hmmm: ). We're on to you. Now come out of the closet.

NMNB
04-16-2006, 01:52 AM
Tom Cruise is just another airhead Hollywood star.

Roman529
04-16-2006, 02:48 AM
Breaking News: Tom Cruise still won't come out of the closet.

I think the whole "marriage" and baby thing between Tom and Katie is a big sham. I use to be a healthcare administrator and my company handled Tom's medical insurance. I'm pretty sure he is sterile. That would explain why he and Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman never had kids. Then bam, he meets Katie and she gets pregnant just like that? Hmmmm...wonder who the daddy is???? Tom and Nicole sued a tabloid that said their marriage was also a sham as Tom is gay "not that there is anything wrong with this." Sounds fishy to me.

lazareth
04-16-2006, 03:29 AM
tom cruise...like most of his movies...not big on the person

scientology? hahahahahahah...fools :shakeno:

ponchovilla
04-16-2006, 08:17 PM
I used to take my car to be fixed at this repair shop. The owner was a smart cookie, good business man, great with cars. Found out that he was a scientologist and chatted with him a bit. He eventually sold the shop and made a 40k donation. When he told me this my jaw hit the floor. 40k to a church. This is on top of the 20% of his income he sent every year. WOW. Some ppl just want to belong to something bigger than themselves.

FinaciousOne
04-16-2006, 08:28 PM
I used to take my car to be fixed at this repair shop. The owner was a smart cookie, good business man, great with cars. Found out that he was a scientologist and chatted with him a bit. He eventually sold the shop and made a 40k donation. When he told me this my jaw hit the floor. 40k to a church. This is on top of the 20% of his income he sent every year. WOW. Some ppl just want to belong to something bigger than themselves.


Is this when you realized that you must have been overpaying for your repairs all those years?:wink:


You should of told him about Finheaven. We're almost like a church. We've got heaven in our name.