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Dolfan1000
04-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Assumptions

Lavar Arrington is signed
Joey Harrington is acquired for a 7th in 2006 and 7th in 2007The Mock

Round 1- Jimmy Williams, CB, Virgina Tech

Round 3- Pat Watkins, S, Florida State

Round 4- Brandon Marshall, WR, Central Florida

Round 5- Manuel Wright, DT, USC

Round 7- Chris Kuper, G, North Dakota

Round 7- Clint Ingram, OLB, Oklahoma

What do you think?

SR 7
04-16-2006, 11:21 PM
from what has beeen said miami offered DETROIT our 6th rd pick NEXT year

camanda
04-16-2006, 11:27 PM
Assumptions

Lavar Arrington is signed
Joey Harrington is acquired for a 7th in 2006 and 7th in 2007The Mock

Round 1- Jimmy Williams, CB, Virgina Tech

Round 3- Pat Watkins, S, Florida State

Round 4- Brandon Marshall, WR, Central Florida

Round 5- Manuel Wright, DT, USC

Round 7- Chris Kuper, G, North Dakota

Round 7- Clint Ingram, OLB, Oklahoma

What do you think?

Williams and Marshall are both great talents with a pattern of undisciplined play and difficulty handling authority woven through every review I've read about them. Drafting two headcases in the same draft may be more than even Saban can handle. Of the two I would gamble on Marshall. One draft site likened him to Terrell Owens as far as talent and temperment.

I think Watkins is a steal! I, too, hope Miami has a shot at him in the third.

Kuper and Ingram are serviceable. 7th rounders or free agents.

motioncityhifi
04-16-2006, 11:37 PM
watkins wont be there in the 3rd. id take whitner and allen over williams. i like kuper in the 7th but i dont think ingram lasts till the 7th.

RunRickyRun34
04-17-2006, 01:11 AM
I'd take Whitner and Allen over Williams in RD 1 as well

I also don't see us spending two day one picks on our secondary, if we take a DB in RD 1, I'd like to see McClover in RD 3. Watkins won't drop to the third either way and Marshalls stock has been rising a lot so he may not even be there in the 4th.

Although this mock is a pipe dream in a way, if it happened I'd be extremely happy.

MadLib
04-17-2006, 02:27 AM
I'd consider Whitner over Williams but i'd be very disappointed if we picked Allen if Jimmy was still on the board. I dont expect JW to fall to us at #16 so i'm pulling for either Whitner or Santonio Holmes.

dlockz
04-17-2006, 02:36 AM
I like Williams at 16 but think its too early for Whitner or Allen.

MadLib
04-17-2006, 02:41 AM
watkins wont be there in the 3rd. id take whitner and allen over williams. i like kuper in the 7th but i dont think ingram lasts till the 7th.

I think Watkins could easily be there in the third. I expect to see 5-7 safeties taken before him. I wouldnt be shocked to see him fall to the 4th. Watkins could turn out to be the next Marlin Jackson, who many had projected to be a first round last year and just kept falling and falling (actually went undrafted) due to the amount of talented DBs available.

Surferosa
04-17-2006, 02:53 AM
I like it, though I wonder if we will really take two defensive backs on day one. Jimmy Williams is a great pick because he can play both DB and Safety; however, drafting both he and Watkins would give us a very crowded secondary.

MadLib
04-17-2006, 02:58 AM
I like it, though I wonder if we will really take two defensive backs on day one. Jimmy Williams is a great pick because he can play both DB and Safety; however, drafting both he and Watkins would give us a very crowded secondary.


It would give us some more depth but we'd still be lacking in proven starters. I wouldnt be against picking secondary with our top two selections. Its definitely an area that needs upgrading and it would give us a crop of young playmaking dbs that could potentially make us one of the most feared defensive backfields in the league again (in a couple years).

MiamiDolphins34
04-17-2006, 07:18 AM
I think Watkins could easily be there in the third. I expect to see 5-7 safeties taken before him. I wouldnt be shocked to see him fall to the 4th. Watkins could turn out to be the next Marlin Jackson, who many had projected to be a first round last year and just kept falling and falling (actually went undrafted) due to the amount of talented DBs available.

You mean Ernest Shazor:tongue:

motioncityhifi
04-17-2006, 01:50 PM
I think Watkins could easily be there in the third. I expect to see 5-7 safeties taken before him. I wouldnt be shocked to see him fall to the 4th. Watkins could turn out to be the next Marlin Jackson, who many had projected to be a first round last year and just kept falling and falling (actually went undrafted) due to the amount of talented DBs available.

Marlin Jackson the DB from Michigan?? he went first to Indy...if you look at mocks and rankings most have watkins gone by mid to late 2nd. i highly doubt he is there in the 3rd at our pick.

Dolfan1000
04-17-2006, 02:22 PM
I still think 16 is a reach for Allen, and while I do like Whitner, I dont see us passing on Williams if he is there.

As for Watkins, I think its a very deep safety class, so him falling wouldnt be a huge stretch. If he doesnt, then one of the other safeties (Simpson, Bing, Blue, Pollard) will. Any chance Devin Aromashodu falls to R4? He may be the safer pick at WR.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
04-17-2006, 02:39 PM
Marlin Jackson the DB from Michigan?? he went first to Indy...if you look at mocks and rankings most have watkins gone by mid to late 2nd. i highly doubt he is there in the 3rd at our pick.
i think he's talking about ernest shazor, safety for michigan.

Mike13
04-17-2006, 05:49 PM
Does anyone have some info on Brandon Marshall?

outtawack311
04-17-2006, 06:00 PM
Williams and Marshall are both great talents with a pattern of undisciplined play and difficulty handling authority woven through every review I've read about them. Drafting two headcases in the same draft may be more than even Saban can handle. Of the two I would gamble on Marshall. One draft site likened him to Terrell Owens as far as talent and temperment.

I think Watkins is a steal! I, too, hope Miami has a shot at him in the third.

Kuper and Ingram are serviceable. 7th rounders or free agents.

Please don't comment unless you know what you are talking about, cause you obviously have no clue. Brandon Marshall has been nothing but an upstanding citizen since the day he came to UCF. He underwent the coaching change with O'leary coming in where so many student athletes quit cause they couldnt handle the punishment the new regime put on them. He has never been in ANY trouble and he is an extremely nice guy. Maybe you are thinking of a different marshall, if not then please think before you commit libel against such a stand up guy.

outtawack311
04-17-2006, 06:01 PM
Oh and also...The draft publication likened him to T.O. with a little less speed and no temperment problem.

motioncityhifi
04-17-2006, 06:36 PM
Please don't comment unless you know what you are talking about, cause you obviously have no clue. Brandon Marshall has been nothing but an upstanding citizen since the day he came to UCF. He underwent the coaching change with O'leary coming in where so many student athletes quit cause they couldnt handle the punishment the new regime put on them. He has never been in ANY trouble and he is an extremely nice guy. Maybe you are thinking of a different marshall, if not then please think before you commit libel against such a stand up guy.

well he isnt exactly an upstanding citizen but he wasnt that bad it seems. according to espn, he was arressted for resisting arrest and trespassing at a dennys restaurant. they also go on to say he is arrogant.

MadLib
04-17-2006, 10:22 PM
i think he's talking about ernest shazor, safety for michigan.

Yes I was. My mistake.

MadLib
04-17-2006, 10:31 PM
if you look at mocks and rankings most have watkins gone by mid to late 2nd. i highly doubt he is there in the 3rd at our pick.

The 3 most credible draft sites that I follow...

1 - www.nfldraftcountdown.com
2 - www.nfldraftforecast.com
3 - www.condraft.com (consensus draft)

...all have him going in the 3rd or lower. Forecast has him falling to us in the 3rd.

motioncityhifi
04-17-2006, 11:10 PM
The 3 most credible draft sites that I follow...

1 - www.nfldraftcountdown.com (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com)
2 - www.nfldraftforecast.com (http://www.nfldraftforecast.com)
3 - www.condraft.com (http://www.condraft.com) (consensus draft)

...all have him going in the 3rd or lower. Forecast has him falling to us in the 3rd.

fair enough. i follow these along with scouts inc and kiper as well. just from everything ive read seems he is going to be gone. if he is there in the 3rd depending on our first round pick i definitely wouldnt mind him in the 3rd.

camanda
04-18-2006, 04:34 AM
Please don't comment unless you know what you are talking about, cause you obviously have no clue. Brandon Marshall has been nothing but an upstanding citizen since the day he came to UCF. He underwent the coaching change with O'leary coming in where so many student athletes quit cause they couldnt handle the punishment the new regime put on them. He has never been in ANY trouble and he is an extremely nice guy. Maybe you are thinking of a different marshall, if not then please think before you commit libel against such a stand up guy.

NFL Draft Countdown: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/brandonmarshall.html
Not known to be a hard worker...Has some character / maturity issues and was even suspended at one point in college.

NFL Draft Almanac:
http://www.nfldraftalmanac.com/index.php?c=32&a=260
Another area of concern for Marshall is his attitude and work ethic, and how he conducts himself off the field. Marshall has had run-ins with coaches earlier in his career, once resulting in suspension. Despite his great physical abilities, Marshall hasn't always been able to get the most out of his talent and has often underachieved when playing on the offensive side of the ball. While things clicked in 2005, he will need to develop more maturity and consistency from here on in.

Pro Football Weekly Draft Preview:
(excerpts from the book-page 51)
Was suspended one game vs. Ohio for violation of team rules...Needs to mature. Has a volatile personality and does not like to take orders.Runs his mouth too much. Has a world of potential, but how well he can co-exist with teammates, blend into a locker room and take instructionfrom authority will determine his fate.

Sorry if I got you riled up. I didn't realize he had relatives reading Finheaven's message boards. I like the guys talent, I just don't think you draft too many "special needs" kids in the same year. And, since you obviously missed it, I stated that between the two guys (Williams, Marshall) I'd gamble on Marshall. That means I'd like to see Miami select Marshall. I'm sorry, I can't type any slower for you.

outtawack311
04-18-2006, 02:44 PM
I am just a UCF student who has seen nothing but great things from Marshall. The problem in his career had a lot to do with the atmosphere of the UCF football program back then. It was an 0-11 season where he wasn't playing his natural position. There was a ton of frustration going through the team. I dont think many people can blame someone for something small happening then.