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PhinPhan1227
03-11-2003, 11:33 AM
Not an indictment of all those who are against the war, just pointing out there are some REALLY misguided individuals out there. Freedom of speech is probably our most important liberty, but this went WAY too far.


Antiwar protesters trash 9/11 memorial
American flags burned and slashed
By Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell, Staff Writer


LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up flags, flowers and patriotic signs at a Sept. 11 memorial that residents erected on a fence along Whittier Boulevard days after the terrorist attacks in 2001 and have maintained ever since.

However, although officers witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, police did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday.

"For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent,' he said.

Rees said in order for police to take any action, the owner of the fence would have to file a complaint.

Jeff Collison, owner of The RV Center in La Habra, who has allowed residents to add patriotic symbols to the fence on his property, said he just might do that.

"Their free speech stops at destruction of private property. If they are allowed to come on my property and burn flags, does that mean I can go to City Hall or the police station and light their flags on fire because that is freedom of speech? To me, this is vandalism,' Collison said.

Some residents Monday hung signs criticizing those who destroyed the display.

Tracey Chandler, a Whittier mother of four who has maintained the spontaneous memorial since it was created by other area residents soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, said she was shocked by the destruction.

"They trashed 87 flags, ripped 11 memorial tiles made by myself and my children out of the ground and glued the Bob Dylan song to a sign that said, 'America, land of the brave, home of the free,' ' she said.

The Bob Dylan song she referred to is "With God on Our Side,' an antiwar anthem of the 1960s.

"It's unbelievable, because there were absolutely no political messages on this fence. It was all about supporting our troops, which could mean bringing them home, and about remembering 9-11.'

Les Howard, a sociology professor at Whittier College, said the incident might be an indication of some confusion among people trying to stop a possible war against Iraq but uncertain how to express their sentiments. However, he said he does not condone the destruction of symbols important to those who erect them.

"Some think (the best way to support the troops) is to not question their role. Some think the best way is to pursue all means possible to avoid putting them in danger,' he said. "That still does not excuse any desecration of people's symbolic participation.'

Chandler said she plans to rebuild the Sept. 11 memorial.

"We are going to rebuild this memorial, and it will be brighter, bigger and better than ever,' Chandler said.

Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell can be reached at (562) 698-0955, Ext. 3028, or by e- mail at debbie.pfeiffer@sgvn.com .


http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html

Muck
03-11-2003, 12:13 PM
I was just about to post the same link. Anyway, I'd love to kick some ass right now.

PhinPhan1227
03-11-2003, 12:15 PM
As I said, not a sweeping indictment of all war protestors, or even those who are merely against the war. But those who WOULD do such a thing as this deserve to be dragged down a dark allyway.

Scrap
03-11-2003, 05:05 PM
They should be sent to war first, with no guns or ammo.Just one of their signs shoved up their a**.

PhinPhan1227
03-11-2003, 05:18 PM
Lol...the latest in mine sweeping technology....:)

WharfRat
03-11-2003, 05:28 PM
I have no problem with people excorsising thier right to free speech.... I have no problem with people holding demontstrations to state their view... but this is just revolting.
This is the type of double standard that makes some anti-abortion activists blow up clinics (with people in them) and kill Drs... protesting for the "right to life" by taking life is as abhorant as it gets. This comes close... very close.

themole
03-11-2003, 09:16 PM
These people don't hate war! They hate America and what it represents...and show their disdain by burning the flag, destroying private property, desecrating a site of honor dedicated to those who lost their lives on 9/11.

They are the antithesis to what america represents.

I respect anyones right to dissent but these elitest selfserving SOBs should be made to take a napalm shower.

:monkey: On the peaceniks!

baccarat
03-11-2003, 09:17 PM
This is sickening. I bet the French did this, but seriously, it's f**ked up!I have ZERO respect for extremists like this. I'm not blaming all war protesters, just the people who did it and the people who condone that kind of activity.

baccarat
03-11-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by themole
These people don't hate war! They hate America and what it represents...and show their disdain by burning the flag, destroying private property, desecrating a site of honor dedicated to those who lost their lives on 9/11.

They are the antithesis to what america represents.

I respect anyones right to dissent but these elitest selfserving SOBs should be made to take a napalm shower.

:monkey: On the peaceniks!


Good post. I agree. There are government policies I don't care for but I would not burn our flag, disrespect 9-11 victims, vetrans or our current men and women in uniform.

Muck
03-11-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by themole
These people don't hate war! They hate America and what it represents...and show their disdain by burning the flag, destroying private property, desecrating a site of honor dedicated to those who lost their lives on 9/11.

They are the antithesis to what america represents.



More specifically, they are Communists. They are a big part of organizing this "movement". And that's a fact.

themole
03-11-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Muck
More specifically, they are Communists. They are a big part of organizing this "movement". And that's a fact.

I don't like Communist or Socialist or any other ideology that would take the fruits of my labor and give to those who are not willing to earn theirs.

The Communist are definitely a possibility.

t2thejz
03-12-2003, 10:40 PM
thats crazy. i cant believe there are people like that.