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runronnyrun
04-21-2006, 07:43 PM
What do you guy's think if Ernie is there when we pick I say we take him. He was good for the noles, he will be great in the N.F.L.(I'm a rookie so be gentle.)

Miamifin23
04-21-2006, 07:45 PM
Well. If we had a stronger secondary I would much rather have Sims, but our secondary isn't so strong, so I would say Williams.

Prime
04-21-2006, 07:48 PM
IMO, I doubt we will take Simms if there. He isn't the type of LB that Saban needs in his defense. To tell you the truth, I don't even know if we will take Jimmy Williams. He is raising the red flags because of his attitude and I don't think Saban would want a rookie to come in and screw up the lockerroom. To me I think that Santonio Holmes, Jason Allen, Manny Lawson or Chad Greenway is the pick.

runronnyrun
04-21-2006, 07:49 PM
Really ? I was thinking we could be OK in the secondary. But if Zack or Crowder go down we are doomed.

Jimmy James
04-21-2006, 07:51 PM
Bobby Carpenter

runronnyrun
04-21-2006, 07:59 PM
Bobby Carpenter will do just fine. I guess my title should have been DB, or LB. I see the Dolpfins being thin at LB. not DB.

PSU Cane
04-21-2006, 08:55 PM
If we take Carpenter, then i see us trading down. He's being listed as a late 1, early 2. I think 16 is too high for him.

Jason Allen has supposedly failed 2 physicals thus far. I think he is too much of an injury risk to take in round 1.

I like Ernie Sims, but i don't know how good of a pro he'll be. He is physically gifted, but in college he was in a system that let him do whatever. In the NFL, he can't be that way. Sims was out of position a LOT at FSU. He overpursued and was out of position in pass coverage. So, i don't know how well he'll do in the NFL where you have to be a "system" player and be responsible for your area. That being said, when he saw the ball, he was a missile to it and hits like a truck. Reminds me or Arrington in college, but not as dominant or big.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
04-21-2006, 09:00 PM
sims.

Jimmy James
04-21-2006, 09:11 PM
If we take Carpenter, then i see us trading down. He's being listed as a late 1, early 2. I think 16 is too high for him.

Forget about where he's being listed. If he's the best player on Nick's board when the team picks, I think that's all Nick cares about. He's not going to take a player who doesn't fit like Simms just because Mel Kiper or somebody else says he's better than Carpenter is.

I say this because I'm a big BPA guy who is trying his hardest to think like Nick is thinking.

Troysif
04-21-2006, 09:47 PM
neither

finfanlover
04-21-2006, 10:32 PM
Witner or Greenway.

randy9
04-21-2006, 10:45 PM
This would be good, trade down in the 1st for mangold pick up a second and take Watkins of FSU. Just gotta find a trade partner.......

Mr.305
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
:confused:
Witner or Greenway.


:confused: :confused: :confused: SIMS!

FinNasty
04-22-2006, 05:03 PM
Really ? I was thinking we could be OK in the secondary. But if Zack or Crowder go down we are doomed.

We would be even more doomed if someone in the secondary went down...

icephinfan
04-22-2006, 09:38 PM
Jimmy Williams, I think Saban can find a playmaker in the later rounds...ala Channing Crowder.

zodiak
04-22-2006, 09:40 PM
Not Sims....

read somewhere about Carpenter not being a good teammate can someone elaborate on that story?

Aqua4Ever04
04-22-2006, 10:06 PM
What do you guy's think if Ernie is there when we pick I say we take him. He was good for the noles, he will be great in the N.F.L.(I'm a rookie so be gentle.)

I have been preaching the depth of DB in this draft and I will continue that on this thread. Although the draft has tons of talented DBs, most of them should be gone when we make our 2nd selection in the 3rd round. That being said, I think we should act in the first round on one of them. Who would I like?
I think safety is the biggest hole on this team right now so I would say Donte Whitner. I would also be pleased with Jimmy Williams, Tye Hill or Jason Allen. I would much rather take a saftey though because I believe that Will Poole can make a full and terrific recovery!