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DUB
04-25-2006, 11:56 AM
Would you take..

A. Deangelo Williams at #15 and give a 2nd to Green Bay for Javon Walker.

or

B Take Chad Jackson at #15 and give our beloved Phins a second for Ricky.

One of these scenario is very likely to happen.

I am torn on whether or not to deal Ricky and Will be happy if he stays or we get a 2nd. However, if I'm Denver I go with A. Your thoughts.......

Dolfan73
04-25-2006, 11:59 AM
I think I'd take a LB in that spot and try to get Javon for a second. On the other hand, If I was green bay, I wouldn't give up javon for any less than a 2nd with a first rd escalator when he blew up in Denver, which we would no doubt do.

BLITZKRIEG
04-25-2006, 12:00 PM
No way we trade Ricky to Denver. Why on earth would we want to make the Broncos better?? We'll likely be playing them in the playoffs as well. No way I'd trade Ricky to Shanahan. That would be dumb of Saban in my opinion....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

jason8er
04-25-2006, 12:03 PM
Take Jackson at #15, but no trade. They can pick up a good back later.

islandah
04-25-2006, 12:08 PM
No way we trade Ricky to Denver. Why on earth would we want to make the Broncos better?? We'll likely be playing them in the playoffs as well. No way I'd trade Ricky to Shanahan. That would be dumb of Saban in my opinion....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

I don't know-say we trade RW for a 2nd (not that I think we'd get it) and he goes to Denver and can't work with Shanahan for whatever reason (Saban's really the only coach he's ever had a good relationship with). He'd flake out, flunk a test, re-retire, or whatever and we end up with a pick for essentially nothing! Personally, I don't think he's going anywhere- we won't get in value what he's worth to us. That's IF he wins the appeal.

eric-in-tx
04-25-2006, 12:11 PM
A most definatly.... good point

MarinoNotElway
04-25-2006, 12:29 PM
I think I'd take a LB in that spot and try to get Javon for a second. On the other hand, If I was green bay, I wouldn't give up javon for any less than a 2nd with a first rd escalator when he blew up in Denver, which we would no doubt do.

Why on earth would Denver take a LB? Al Wilson, DJ Williams, and Ian Gold is a solid LB trio. Ashley Lelie wants to be their No 1 receiver or he wants to be traded. So it is possible that Denver will trade Lelie and their lower 3rd rounder or their 4th rounder for Javon Walker. Denver has many picks though. They are excellent at finding a no-name runner in later rounds and turning them into studs. They are lousy at drafting receivers though.

realist
04-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Ricky is worth more to us than we would ever get from anybody else. Aside from his issues, the market for RB's has been poor.

Who has given a 1st for a RB in the last couple years?

2nd round under the best circumstances. Ricky would MAYBE get a 2nd but likey a 3rd.

I don't trade him for a 3rd.

DUB
04-25-2006, 12:33 PM
I don't know-say we trade RW for a 2nd (not that I think we'd get it) and he goes to Denver and can't work with Shanahan for whatever reason (Saban's really the only coach he's ever had a good relationship with). He'd flake out, flunk a test, re-retire, or whatever and we end up with a pick for essentially nothing! Personally, I don't think he's going anywhere- we won't get in value what he's worth to us. That's IF he wins the appeal.

I agree, if Ricky gets through this latest episode, it would be nie in a way to have the constant worry off our hands. Im a huge fan and have his jersey, but with this guy anything can happen.

So back to my question A or B...

sports24/7
04-25-2006, 12:34 PM
Or they could go BPA at 15 and trade one 2nd for Ricky and the other for Walkker.

MADolphan413
04-25-2006, 12:43 PM
I think Ricky has the most VALUE to the team playing for the Dolphins. I don't think a second round pick for Ricky is true VALUE . Drug woes aside he is truely liked in the clubhouse, coaches said he did everything they asked and more and the guy is a beast on the field.Couple all of that with the fact that he is making 525k and is in the last year of that deal(which could be a moster year for him) Put him in to the Broncos system and look out!!

I have never been a believer in trading guys within in the conference, especially to a team who was in the AFC title game last year.When you think it through I don't see the VALUE in trading the best backup,who could EASILY step in to the starter roll, for a seond round pick.

SR 7
04-25-2006, 12:47 PM
No way we trade Ricky to Denver. Why on earth would we want to make the Broncos better?? We'll likely be playing them in the playoffs as well. No way I'd trade Ricky to Shanahan. That would be dumb of Saban in my opinion....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

b/c then we as a team can get better. they lost their one and only pass rusher in Pryce that they already lacked in big time. WE come first not other teams. You can't go about winning SB's by trying to take the easy route bro. look what NE tried to do and what happened...they lost

Miamifin23
04-25-2006, 12:53 PM
I would no neither. I would take Chad Jackson at 15 and then with one of the 2nd's I would take a TE. Then I would focus on getting a DE to replace Trevor Pryce.

EBMisfit
04-25-2006, 12:53 PM
look what NE tried to do and what happened...they lostWhich they probably would have done anyway. They've been bleeding more talent than probably any other team the last few years in FA and sooner or later, it was bound to catch up with them.

maquina54
04-25-2006, 12:56 PM
In this moment Ricky is more valuable for us than a second round pick.

DUB
04-25-2006, 01:09 PM
In this moment Ricky is more valuable for us than a second round pick.

Maybe, but what if we got say Greenway-1st and Bing-2nd and signed Najeh Davenport to back up Ronnie...that package may be more valuable than Ricky. Again, as long as he's back Ill be happy with a pick or if he's on the field

jonkruse
04-25-2006, 01:25 PM
"Maybe, but what if we got say Greenway-1st and Bing-2nd and signed Najeh Davenport to back up Ronnie...that package may be more valuable than Ricky. Again, as long as he's back Ill be happy with a pick or if he's on the field"

Actually Najeh Davenport resigned with green bay. I like the idea of giving ricky up for a 2nd though and bringing in a free agent or even drafting in the later rounds a running back to back up Ronnie. Ricky's getting up there up in age..I'd be happy either way if we kept him or traded him for a 2nd rounder. Its a win win situation.

Roman529
04-25-2006, 01:30 PM
Would you take..

A. Deangelo Williams at #15 and give a 2nd to Green Bay for Javon Walker.

or

B Take Chad Jackson at #15 and give our beloved Phins a second for Ricky.

One of these scenario is very likely to happen.

I am torn on whether or not to deal Ricky and Will be happy if he stays or we get a 2nd. However, if I'm Denver I go with A. Your thoughts.......

A....most of the newspapers I have been reading here in Colorado have the Broncos going with a RB with their pick as it does not looks like they will be trading Ashley Lelie, and they still have Rod Smith. DeAngelo Williams seems to be their main target.

nick1
04-25-2006, 01:30 PM
if I was Denver I would never draft a RB in the 1st, they are a RB factory. anybody could run well in Denver. I would take a WR in round 1 I think Holmes and than draft a RB later like Andre Hall. a guy with potential

FansinceJan'72
04-25-2006, 01:45 PM
Trade Ricky to Denver and he runs right through us in a playoff victory for Denver? You really think Saban would take that risk for a 2nd round possible, total bust?

JMarino
04-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Would you take..

A. Deangelo Williams at #15 and give a 2nd to Green Bay for Javon Walker.

or

B Take Chad Jackson at #15 and give our beloved Phins a second for Ricky.

One of these scenario is very likely to happen.

I am torn on whether or not to deal Ricky and Will be happy if he stays or we get a 2nd. However, if I'm Denver I go with A. Your thoughts.......

Ricky Williams is better than any 2nd round pic you could get. He singlehandedly beat the titans last year.

DUB
04-25-2006, 01:57 PM
Ricky Williams is better than any 2nd round pic you could get. He singlehandedly beat the titans last year.

I think that is the most sensible conclusion.

Gunit1
04-25-2006, 02:00 PM
Ricky in Denver is a 2000 yard rusher...I would not want to face him in the AFC championship game...To many people confuse his talent with his off the field issues...Ricky is still a beast when he plays...is he a risk? not for what we pay, and who he shares time with...For those two reasons he has more value to us then any other team in the league...he is a top five back for the vet minimum!! other teams will be less likely to give up much for him because of his issues, he is expandable to us, and that makes his value almost priceless

Dolfan73
04-25-2006, 02:26 PM
Why on earth would Denver take a LB? Al Wilson, DJ Williams, and Ian Gold is a solid LB trio. Ashley Lelie wants to be their No 1 receiver or he wants to be traded. So it is possible that Denver will trade Lelie and their lower 3rd rounder or their 4th rounder for Javon Walker. Denver has many picks though. They are excellent at finding a no-name runner in later rounds and turning them into studs. They are lousy at drafting receivers though.

Ian Gold isn't that great. If they trade for walker, why go wr in the first round? I don't know where else they need help. If they don't trade for ricky, then they should go rb in the 1st round.

34isback
04-25-2006, 02:31 PM
Ricky to us has more value than a 2nd rd pick - we wouldn't get more but he's that valuable to us

prolific
04-25-2006, 02:36 PM
I agree, if Ricky gets through this latest episode, it would be nie in a way to have the constant worry off our hands. Im a huge fan and have his jersey, but with this guy anything can happen.

So back to my question A or B...


I'd take C

Give the packers a 2nd for Walker and give the phins a 2nd for Williams. They have two #2's

AZfinfan
04-25-2006, 03:04 PM
based on your senerio I would take Williams and Walker. When healthy Walker is one of the best recievers in football. And I personally believe that D. Williams is going to be great. It makes them a better team sooner. It always seems as though rookie WR never break out.