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FinFan72
04-29-2006, 01:28 PM
will arizona select Leinart?

I Think they will cause warner has only 1 maybe 2 years in him

myfins1
04-29-2006, 01:30 PM
Yes

Dolphan23
04-29-2006, 01:31 PM
he's likin it bc its a PAC ten spot for him :)

Good for Leinhart he'll be successful in Arizona...he's got the talent surrounding him now...they'll be a lot better now

mia4ever
04-29-2006, 01:32 PM
ny fans are call Matt overrated i love it

Ronnie Bass
04-29-2006, 01:32 PM
Wow, the Cardinals could have something special going on now, with Leinart with those stud receivers, James at RB, new stadium and a TON of cap space in the next few years.

TexPhinPhan
04-29-2006, 01:33 PM
Great pick for Zona and Leinert.

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 01:33 PM
he's likin it bc its a PAC ten spot for him :)

Good for Leinhart he'll be successful in Arizona...he's got the talent surrounding him now...they'll be a lot better now

No, they wont...:shakeno:

They should have taken Cutler

PAC 10? This isnt college anymore.
You guys all still love Leinart. Ask Norm Chow why he didnt take the guy he has coached the last 4 years at #2.

FinFan72
04-29-2006, 01:33 PM
Wow, the Cardinals could have something special going on now, with Leinart with those stud receivers, James at RB, new stadium and a TON of cap space in the next few years.
:yes: they are brewing something up in the desert

HysterikiLL
04-29-2006, 01:33 PM
Great pick from Denny Green. This team could be hella dangerous if they can get a good defense.

PCHD
04-29-2006, 01:35 PM
I wish him luck there.This fall of his in the draft might just light a fire under him.We will see I am glad we don't have to play him twice a year.

Philter25
04-29-2006, 01:40 PM
Good spot for Leinart.

Tennessee should be the worst team in the NFL next year, thats not a good place. Arizona has talent in the skill positions on offense and are in a weak division where they have a shot at making the wild card.

Leinart's decision to stay in school pretty much cost him what, 20 something million?

H-CanePlayMaker
04-29-2006, 01:41 PM
just wait till fitz or bolding are deep leianrt is gonna have to run lol hey runbak i cant throw that far

Mr.Majestik
04-29-2006, 01:41 PM
No, they wont...:shakeno:

They should have taken Cutler

PAC 10? This isnt college anymore.
You guys all still love Leinart. Ask Norm Chow why he didnt take the guy he has coached the last 4 years at #2.
Norm Chow isn't making the selections in Tennessee. Jeff Fisher isn't making the selections in Tennessee. Floyd Reese, the guy that took Pac-Man Jones instead of Antrell Rolle is making the selections in Titan Town. He was inexplicably infatuated with Young. Now Reese can watch, if he's not fired first, as Young struggles for the next three years.

Regan21286
04-29-2006, 01:44 PM
Leinart gave up a chance to make instant money for a shot to make even more with an extension if he plays well. And in Arizona, he could do just that with two Pro Bowl WR's and a Pro Bowl RB. Not to mention, Arizona's proximity to LA. He got a good scenario going for him. Only thing better would be with the Fins. :tongue:

Agent51
04-29-2006, 01:53 PM
I wonder what he'll do about his jersey number, Larry Fitzgerald is already #11. Think Leinart tries to buy it from him, or think he picks a new number?

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 01:53 PM
Norm Chow isn't making the selections in Tennessee. Jeff Fisher isn't making the selections in Tennessee. Floyd Reese, the guy that took Pac-Man Jones instead of Antrell Rolle is making the selections in Titan Town. He was inexplicably infatuated with Young. Now Reese can watch, if he's not fired first, as Young struggles for the next three years.

And you're going to tell me that Reese did'nt talk to Norm Chow 1st:shakeno:. Chow made this pick as much as anybody did, and I gaurantee you that Chow knows Lienart MUCH better than anybody on this site... MUCH BETTER.
I think he went about where he should. I think it is Leinart who will struggle. He is SUPER-LOADED with talent, but the playing field is much more even than it was in College.

Agent51
04-29-2006, 01:56 PM
And you're going to tell me that Reese did'nt talk to Norm Chow 1st:shakeno:. Chow made this pick as much as anybody did, and I gaurantee you that Chow knows Lienart MUCH better than anybody on this site... MUCH BETTER.
I think he went about where he should. I think you are the one that is gonna see Leinart struggle. He is SUPER-LOADED with talent, but the playing field is much more even than it was in College.

Plus, put Leinart on any other college team, does he still get a Heisman and finish 3rd for another and get 2 national titles and appear in a third, and be projected as a first round pick then a top 5 pick?

I say no, if he didn't have Bush, White, Smith, Jarrett etc etc he wouldn't have done all that. Defenses had so many things to prepare for that there was BOUND to be holes for Leinart to do some good things. If they didn't have to respect the run, or if he didn't have the star WRs/TE he wouldn't have had so much hype.

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 01:58 PM
Plus, put Leinart on any other college team, does he still get a Heisman and finish 3rd for another and get 2 national titles and appear in a third, and be projected as a first round pick then a top 5 pick?

I say no, if he didn't have Bush, White, Smith, Jarrett etc etc he wouldn't have done all that. Defenses had so many things to prepare for that there was BOUND to be holes for Leinart to do some good things. If they didn't have to respect the run, or if he didn't have the star WRs/TE he wouldn't have had so much hype.

Not to mention (Remember I live in PAC-10 country) the PAC-10 is not a good defensive conference. Leinart will be a solid QB, he won't be great. I think he WILL make more plays than mistakes, and that is 1 thing that helps win games.... But he still has to prove to me that he can go up against solid defenses week after week and produce. I dont think he will. JMHO

Agent51
04-29-2006, 02:00 PM
Not to mention (Remember I live in PAC-10 country) the PAC-10 is not a good defensive conference. Leinart will be a solid QB, he won't be great. I think he WILL make more plays than mistakes, and that is 1 thing that helps win games.... But he still has to prove to me that he can go up against solid defenses week after week and produce. I dont think he will. JMHO

He wasn't putting up huge numbers in the Rose Bowl, when he went up against a great defense. I think Bush AND Leinart (and I guess the whole USC offense) really benifited from the weak PAC-10 defenses.

Red Baron
04-29-2006, 02:18 PM
Leinhart will probably take #7. That was his H.S. number.

As for Chow passing on him, #1, it was not his choice! #2, it is fact that Fisher and Chow both wanted Matt, and Reese wanted Young. I guess management wins out!

KCPhin
04-29-2006, 02:19 PM
Chow isn't the GM or owner. He would have taken Matt. Is Mularky going to be picking for the Dolphins in the first round? Matt made out like a thief in this deal. In an offense that fits him, in a warm place, doesn't have to play in NO, Nashiville, or in NY. Yes he lost out on some initial money, but by his contract, he will make some of that back.

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 02:26 PM
Chow isn't the GM or owner. He would have taken Matt. Is Mularky going to be picking for the Dolphins in the first round? Matt made out like a thief in this deal. In an offense that fits him, in a warm place, doesn't have to play in NO, Nashiville, or in NY. Yes he lost out on some initial money, but by his contract, he will make some of that back.

If Mularky just got finished coaching the kid for 4 years, and it was the position we were picking, you bet I do. You have got to be kidding me, right?:shakeno:. I know some GM's are a little thick, but you are just kidding right? This wasnt Granny Davis in Oakland we are talking about here.

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 02:27 PM
Leinhart will probably take #7. That was his H.S. number.

As for Chow passing on him, #1, it was not his choice! #2, it is fact that Fisher and Chow both wanted Matt, and Reese wanted Young. I guess management wins out!

How do you know that Chow and Fisher wanted Matt. I want a thread or column stating this..:shakeno:
Fisher was on Jim Rome day before yesterday and he was pimping Young like crazy.

Dolfan32323
04-29-2006, 03:18 PM
Great Pick for Arizona, what a steal. Hopefully Kurt will be able to teach Matt a thing or 2 this year.

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 03:27 PM
How do you know that Chow and Fisher wanted Matt. I want a thread or column stating this..:shakeno:
Fisher was on Jim Rome day before yesterday and he was pimping Young like crazy.It was common knowledge here in Nashville.

The Confessor
04-29-2006, 03:41 PM
It was common knowledge here in Nashville.

Then that should make all that much easier to post a quote, a thread or anything else

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 03:44 PM
It's not worth my effort. Go to the tennessean.com and you'll find 10 or so articles that infer the Fisher/Chow affinity for Leinart.

Mr.Majestik
04-30-2006, 11:15 PM
How do you know that Chow and Fisher wanted Matt. I want a thread or column stating this..:shakeno:
Fisher was on Jim Rome day before yesterday and he was pimping Young like crazy.
Then you'll need to look no further then John Clayton's column on the draft's first day winners and losers on ESPN.com. He reports that Fisher and Chow wanted Leinart and Bud Adams wanted Young.

NorFlaFin
05-01-2006, 11:00 AM
Good spot for Leinart........Leinart's decision to stay in school pretty much cost him what, 20 something million?

At least 20-25 million, on the flip side. Hes going to a much better team talent wise, playing his home games in a controlled environment, and gets to sit at least 1 game(Warner will get injured again).

I guess if you can reconcile the loss of 20 million with the possibility winning a lot more games at Arizona it's worth it.

IMO, I won't suprised if hes the starter and makes a run at rookie of the year. Simply due to injuries and the talent at the other positions.

DeathStar
05-01-2006, 11:33 AM
he is right. chow and fisher wanted leinart. reese wanted young. even owner wanted young.

the GM chooses the players in that franchise so reese got young.

its really simple people.

in our organization, saban has final say. in theirs its reese.

Mile High Fin
05-01-2006, 11:35 AM
he is right. chow and fisher wanted leinart. reese wanted young. even owner wanted young.

the GM chooses the players in that franchise so reese got young.

its really simple people.

in our organization, saban has final say. in theirs its reese.


:yes:

Red Baron
05-01-2006, 12:06 PM
How do you know that Chow and Fisher wanted Matt. I want a thread or column stating this..:shakeno:
Fisher was on Jim Rome day before yesterday and he was pimping Young like crazy.


Here is one of many links!

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9406219

vmarcilfan75
05-01-2006, 01:32 PM
i think the owner is from Texas..but either way im sure Leinart is much happier in Arizona. He has Kurt to learn from, Edge to hand off to, Boldin,Fitzgerald, and Pope to pass to. He's still on the West Coast,Arizona women, new stadium, and sunshine.

The Confessor
05-01-2006, 03:24 PM
Then you'll need to look no further then John Clayton's column on the draft's first day winners and losers on ESPN.com. He reports that Fisher and Chow wanted Leinart and Bud Adams wanted Young.

Yep, I did see that yesterday. I have also seen a few other postings..
My bad guys-Chow and Fisher did want Lienart.

I am glad that our GM has enough sense to let Saban and CO do the drafting.

That being said, I still dont think that Lienart is the next STAR QB like Peter Pricko predicts. I will keep you up to date as I will be constantly barraged with updates being so close to Phoenix.

PHINATIC13
05-01-2006, 06:44 PM
I'm still a little shocked that Matt fell down to 10th.I also believe that getting drafted by the Cards is the best possible place for Matt to come in right away and start if Warner can't go.Arizona has E.James(from Indy) with Bouldin(sp) and Fitzgerald as WR's Matt's got a lot of talent around him like at USC.I can only hope Arizona's iffy O-line doesn't get him killed.

Roman529
05-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Nice pick by the Cardinals....look at all the clunkers they have had in Arizona since Jim Hart....guys like Gary Hogeboom, Plummer, Tupa, Rosenbach...it would be nice seeing them turning things around in the desert.

djfresh47
05-01-2006, 11:00 PM
Yep, I did see that yesterday. I have also seen a few other postings..
My bad guys-Chow and Fisher did want Lienart.

I am glad that our GM has enough sense to let Saban and CO do the drafting.

That being said, I still dont think that Lienart is the next STAR QB like Peter Pricko predicts. I will keep you up to date as I will be constantly barraged with updates being so close to Phoenix.

Saban has final say and it's good for some coaches and some coaches seem to thrive when someone else makes the play decisions. I think final say was taken away from Holmgren and he's done alright the last few years.

Leinart probably will get some playing time this year because Warner never seems to stay healthy. Their offense is loaded and young. Boldin/Johnson/Fitzgerald are in their 3rd or 4th year, Edge has some miles on him but they did take J.J. Arrington last year in the 2nd rd. He's going into a great situation for him although he did cost himself some money although with that offense he has the potential to make it up on his 2nd contract.

I'd be pretty surprised if Jeff Fisher is the coach for the Titans beyond this upcoming season. They're going to be awful and regardless of how much talent anyone believes Young has he is very raw and maybe forced to start right away. What are the Titans going to do with either Brown/Henry I know alot of people on this site are in love with the idea of backs splitting carries, well what about 3 backs splitting carries?

Majpain
05-01-2006, 11:12 PM
Arizona is going to have a great offense next year.