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Majpain
04-29-2006, 05:21 PM
They are drafting Chad Jackson yay now Mourney now Jackson oh great.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:22 PM
Thanks Jets... hahahahahaha:sidelol:

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:22 PM
Patriots just took the guy we should have had at #16. :rolleyes:

Dolfan11
04-29-2006, 05:24 PM
That's pretty solid. Jackson is going to be great. Brady/Branch/Jackson/Dillon/Maroney/Watson, looks good on paper. I would of loved to trade for him. Lets hope Saban has something up his sleeves like a Javon Walker maybe?

hestar
04-29-2006, 05:24 PM
g'damnit...Why didn't we take a WR or trade up somehow for Jackson like NE did...sigh,great now NE has another WR to throw too.

phinpunk14
04-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Great pick by the pats. I really wish someone outside of the division had picked up jackson.

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 05:26 PM
Patriots just took the guy we should have had at #16. :rolleyes:If he lasted until pick #36, don't you think he would have been a reach at #16?

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:26 PM
But the Pats gave up two picks to move up for Jackson...so no biggie.

orlandodolphin
04-29-2006, 05:27 PM
lets get this straight. We don't need a first Round WR. Chad Jackson would have been a waste at 16.

PhinsTD
04-29-2006, 05:27 PM
Guys, NE plays the draft right, that's why they're always good.

They always stockpile picks and then use them wisely when they see a guy to trade up for. NE consistently trades FOR picks, not trading them away each and every year.

I hate NE.

Regan21286
04-29-2006, 05:27 PM
If things go right for NE, they could have a deadly O in the future. I hope Saban's next pick is a more secure one than an injury-prone Allen.

VanDolPhan
04-29-2006, 05:28 PM
They got a WR but it's not a steal.

In any other year both Holmes and Jackson would be mid to late 2nd rounders. It's just a weak year for WR's that these guys are actually getting drafted higher then they usually would.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:28 PM
If he lasted until pick #36, don't you think he would have been a reach at #16?

True, but he isn't all of a sudden a bad pick because he was picked here by the Pats.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:29 PM
But the Pats gave up two picks to move up for Jackson...so no biggie.

We started with 11, so we needed to get rid of some up or down. Can't go to camp with 11 picks, lol.

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
If things go right for NE, they could have a deadly O in the future. I hope Saban's next pick is a more secure one than an injury-prone Allen.He got injured once in college, while in an awkward position while making a tackle. He's not injury prone. Do a little homework before you make rediculous statements.

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
Wow, Jevon Walker to Denver for a 36th. :eek:

RHoffman
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
and I think he is a bust...I am glad the Patriots wasted a pick on him and traded up.

The Jets on the other hand...have had a remarkable draft...
and the Bills...just have no clue...

PhinsTD
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
How smooth of GB. They called around and made a trade for someone to take Jackson and then Denver broke and gave them a 2nd for Walker.

GB got the deal they wanted and also got a 3rd pick as well. Good job.

MustangFinFan
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
Mike Williams.......Braylon Edwards.....were they big names this past year??? no.

im not worried by these guys, Miami has already played NE, Buffalo, and NYJ with some good receivers and RBs.....i dont think Jackson or Maroney are anyone to be afraid of. i think they should be worried about Allen and Crowder.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:31 PM
I love it Classic. Now Jackson isn't any good and your glad we picked him. Revisionist histroy. :sidelol:

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 05:31 PM
True, but he isn't all of a sudden a bad pick because he was picked here by the Pats.Never said he was a bad pick for the Pats at #36- He just would have been a reach 20 picks earlier.

PhinsTD
04-29-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm actually not a huge Jackson fan. He gears down to change directions and that is going to negate his speed advantage while running any route than the go route. But, he's a good value and makes them moer dangerous as a big play guy deep threat.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:33 PM
Never said he was a bad pick for the Pats at #36- He just would have been a reach 20 picks earlier.

I understand.

Marino13fanboy1
04-29-2006, 05:35 PM
Good pick by NE. I think they need to focus more now on defense (like LB and DB), so we'll see how that plays out.

Regan21286
04-29-2006, 05:35 PM
He got injured once in college, while in an awkward position while making a tackle. He's not injury prone. Do a little homework before you make rediculous statements.

Considering his injury happened quite recently and it was to the hips, I'd say he is injury prone. Seems nfldraftcountdown.com and http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=17573&PT=7&PR=2&type=scoutingreport

agrees with me

And he's had another documented injury even before that:
Also had shoulder surgery following the 2003 season. from here: http://seahawks.scout.com/2/515315.html

I think you need to be the one doing a little homework.

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:35 PM
I love it Classic. Now Jackson isn't any good and your glad we picked him. Revisionist histroy. :sidelol:

Yeah we don't like Jackson anymore....over-rated. :wink: :D

VanDolPhan
04-29-2006, 05:38 PM
I love it Classic. Now Jackson isn't any good and your glad we picked him. Revisionist histroy. :sidelol:

Go ahead and find me saying ever that Miami should draft him.

It's an incredibly weak year for WR's. To me these are mid-late 2nd rounders being drafted higher due to weakness. To me Chambers was more polished coming out compared to these 2.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:39 PM
Yeah we don't like Jackson anymore....over-rated. :wink: :D

Well, at least your honest and I can respect that.:cooldude:

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:40 PM
Go ahead and find me saying ever that Miami should draft him.

It's an incredibly weak year for WR's. To me these are mid-late 2nd rounders being drafted higher due to weakness. To me Chambers was more polished coming out compared to these 2.

I agree that it is a weak WR draft, but that doesn't mean he is a weak WR.

We drafted David Givens in the 7th round and he played great for us. The round doesn't make the player. That's all I am saying.

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:40 PM
Well, at least your honest and I can respect that.:cooldude:

The Pats and Jets have made good picks,,,,but the Bills...welll um... :sidelol:

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 05:42 PM
Considering his injury happened quite recently and it was to the hips, I'd say he is injury prone. Seems nfldraftcountdown.com and http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=17573&PT=7&PR=2&type=scoutingreport

agrees with me

And he's had another documented injury even before that: from here: http://seahawks.scout.com/2/515315.html

I think you need to be the one doing a little homework.
So since the hip injury was (somewhat) recent he now becomes injury prone? How many games did he miss because of the shoulder? It wasn't and still isn't an issue. Maybe your problem is you're relying on the media for your analysis instead of first hand knowledge.

Regan21286
04-29-2006, 05:45 PM
So since the hip injury was (somewhat) recent he now becomes injury prone? How many games did he miss because of the shoulder? It wasn't and still isn't an issue. Maybe your problem is you're relying on the media for your analysis instead of first hand knowledge.

The shoulder injury occured after the season ended. If that happened in training camp, he'd be gone for half of the season to recuperate. And with all injuries, there is a greater chance of a reoccurance hence, injury prone. Unless you're a Tennessee or Dolphins team doctor or trainer, I don't think you have any first hand knowledge either.

Dirtywater
04-29-2006, 05:48 PM
The Pats and Jets have made good picks,,,,but the Bills...welll um... :sidelol:

Man, in a way I almost feel bad for the Bills. It's like a ship lost at sea.

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 05:49 PM
The shoulder injury occured after the season ended. If that happened in training camp, he'd be gone for half of the season to recuperate. And with all injuries, there is a greater chance of a reoccurance hence, injury prone. Unless you're a Tennessee or Dolphins team doctor or trainer, I don't think you have any first hand knowledge either.
You just nailed the problem with your whole arguement right on the head.

Roman529
04-29-2006, 05:51 PM
Man, in a way I almost feel bad for the Bills. It's like a ship lost at sea.

The Bills coach....ohhh crap I forgot his name (I am going senile just like him). :lol: The old guy.....:confused: whassihisface...Marv LOL

Regan21286
04-29-2006, 05:57 PM
You just nailed the problem with your whole arguement right on the head.

Yea, the problem is neither you nor I can make an accurate and detailed argument since neither of us were inside that Dolphins medical room with Allen. If I'm wrong for using informatino acquired from the media, so are you. No one else on this forum has any first-hand information about Allen's injury status. So one can only base their information on what professional scouts and analysts have to say and so far, they all concur that Allen is injury prone and that's what I have to assume. And what are you basing your beliefs that Allen isn't injury prone on? Did you happen to steal his medical charts? Are you a professional football analyst or scout?

Dolfan4life!
04-29-2006, 06:04 PM
Yea, the problem is neither you nor I can make an accurate and detailed argument since neither of us were inside that Dolphins medical room with Allen. If I'm wrong for using informatino acquired from the media, so are you. No one else on this forum has any first-hand information about Allen's injury status. So one can only base their information on what professional scouts and analysts have to say and so far, they all concur that Allen is injury prone and that's what I have to assume. And what are you basing your beliefs that Allen isn't injury prone on? Did you happen to steal his medical charts? Are you a professional football analyst or scout?
Actually I wasn't being serious. But seriously, you are correct, neither of us can say with absolute certainty whether or not Allen is an injury prone type of player. But you made that claim in your origional post. I refuted the claim based on how much playing time Allen has missed at UT. Only once has he missed substantial playing time- the hip injury. One time freak injuries do not constitute being "injury prone" in my mind. I can agree to disagree.