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Dors156
04-29-2006, 06:09 PM
After really thinking about it i think this was the right pick.i jumped the gun real to quick because i wanted chad jackson but im sorry for being a dick and i think this was the best pick for us.i just hope now we trade and get a 2nd round pick

TrinidadDolfan
04-01-2010, 04:47 PM
After really thinking about it i think this was the right pick.i jumped the gun real to quick because i wanted chad jackson but im sorry for being a dick and i think this was the best pick for us.i just hope now we trade and get a 2nd round pick

Sorry. I would have to disagree with you.
Jason Allen is a bum

miami71
04-01-2010, 04:55 PM
After really thinking about it i think this was the right pick.i jumped the gun real to quick because i wanted chad jackson but im sorry for being a dick and i think this was the best pick for us.i just hope now we trade and get a 2nd round pick
He's a BUM!!! I was hoping for Cromartie!

Kdawg954
04-01-2010, 04:56 PM
I mean he is a guy that has all the physical tools to be successful. He had one of the best pre draft workout seasons of any DB, ever. And at the time we needed a FS, so it sure seemed like it was a decent pick. Fact is, they looked at workouts more than tape and experience. Plus he was coming off an injury.

Alot of people wanted Cromartie, and even though he has struggled as of late, he obviously has had a better pro career than Jason Allen so far. Some guys like Carperter and Lawson, who haven't faired too much better either . . . and rumor had it that Santonio Holmes wasn't considered because Ted Ginn jumped off the tape when watching Ohio State games with Santonio (how ironic).

The best pick looking back probably would have been Nick Mangold, who went 29th. High to take a center at 16, but I think there would be no argument looking back.

dr.jake
04-01-2010, 05:32 PM
jason allen was a prototypical dolphin WTF pick. when you see swami and the guys all frantically shuffling their papers and saying "interesting choice" then you know you've just reached beyond the realms of human reason. the dude was injured. a certifiable second rounder AT BEST. and his career thus far has only served to prove this assertion.

Kdawg954
04-01-2010, 05:37 PM
jason allen was a prototypical dolphin WTF pick. when you see swami and the guys all frantically shuffling their papers and saying "interesting choice" then you know you've just reached beyond the realms of human reason. the dude was injured. a certifiable second rounder AT BEST. and his career thus far has only served to prove this assertion.

Yea he was hurt, but that hasn't been his problem in the NFL. He was a solid player in college, like you said, probably a 2nd rounder . . . but when u factor in his pre draft workouts, there was reasoning behind him shooting up the boards. The SEC/Saban connection was the cherry on top.

Before we picked, I definitely thought it would be Cromartie . . . who was ALSO injured.

TXFinFan
04-01-2010, 05:40 PM
Some names that were drafted in the 1st round after Jason Allen:

Antonio Cromartie
Davin Joseph
Santonio Holmes
Johnathan Joseph
Deangelo Williams
Nick Mangold

We could've done much better.

X-Pacolypse
04-01-2010, 05:47 PM
I gotta disagree with you. You don't draft a good special teams player with the 16th overall pick.

dr.jake
04-01-2010, 05:55 PM
i thought he had some potential .he was not a name i'd never heard of. (eddie moore,matt roth)i actually had him listed on my boards but as a third or fourth.
i do keep hoping he'll come around and be a special player for us but .....still ain't seen it.

Kdawg954
04-01-2010, 05:58 PM
Some names that were drafted in the 1st round after Jason Allen:

Antonio Cromartie
Davin Joseph
Santonio Holmes
Johnathan Joseph
Deangelo Williams
Nick Mangold

We could've done much better.


I mean it is easy to select all the Pro Bowl players from that draft 4 years later and said we could have done better. That isn't fair to any team, and many times if these players would have been selected by another team their career wouldn't have been nearly successful.

I really wanted either Cromartie, Lawson and I was coming around on Mangold heavily towards the end.

Cromartie has been up for the most part, down recently, Lawson hasn't been as good as the 49ers hoped and Mangold is considred one of the elite C's in the NFL. I can't say I WANTED Deangelo Williams, we just drafted Ronnie the year before and truthfully he looked undersized for the NFL.

TedSlimmJr
04-01-2010, 06:04 PM
No...what they should have done was trade up to #11 for Cutler...

Kdawg954
04-01-2010, 06:21 PM
No...what they should have done was trade up to #11 for Cutler...

Yes that would have been ideal, but the Daunte trade was already done.

Looking back on it, that year was probably the WORST managed Dolphins offseasons EVER (obviously I don't recall much after the mid to late 90's, but in recent memory, definitely).


We whiffed on Brees (which wouldn't have cost us any compensation) and took Daunte for a 2nd rounder.

Our draft was just blah all the way through:

We selected a special teams ace in the first round
We drafted I can't catch Derek Hagan in the third
We draft Glass Joe Toledo in the 4th
We lost our fifth to Manny Wright
We lost our 6th to Cleo Lemon I believe
The only decent selections came in round 7, with Rod Wright and Devin Aramshodu. Rod Wright was hurt his first year and just never took that next step when healthy. Devin did nothing for us, but he got with Peyton Manning for a year and he is a star in Chicago now.

This is why we are so messed up as an organization. Atleast we got a Channing Crowder in 2005, which looks like a HELL of a pick now. We have really had some ****ty drafts since getting Ricky and pre Trifecta era.

state06
04-01-2010, 08:00 PM
i'm gonna give a big ol' 'Thanks' to the OP here. took 4 years, but you finally got a response. patience at its finest.

Danny
04-01-2010, 08:03 PM
I wanted us to draft Lawson or Mangold that year...didn't wantr a safety at 16 at all.

Ozzy rules!!

VT Dolphan
04-01-2010, 09:14 PM
Digging up 4 year old threads FTL.

finforlife
04-01-2010, 10:43 PM
The best pick would have been Demeco Ryans, who I've heard some of the Dolphins brass wanted.

He went with the first pick of the 2nd round. Mario Williams and Ryan, pretty good draft for the Texans.