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Phinja
04-30-2006, 09:00 AM
Nick Saban did well on the first day of the draft, finding explosive athletes at value spots.

But what does round 4 and 7x3 have in store? Well, the phins have questions at LB and would like a guy who is a good 3-4 edge rusher type, they need to get younger at DT, and could use depth at WR, RB, and QB. So where will round 4 take us?


A couple of ideas:

1. Michael Robinson, QB/RB/WR Penn State
This guy is a pure athlete, with a good combination of size and speed. Has the potential to be a Randel El type guy who is simply a playmaker; the kind of guy that you can get the ball to in a variety of different ways. Saban could potentially add depth to three positions with this one selection. Mularky has a history of developing guys like this in to unique playmakers (i.e. Hines Ward, Randle El, Kordel Stewart). Problem is while Robinson has the ability to play all three positions, he never took many snaps in any one for very long, so it's difficult to project his pro position.

2. Reggie McNeil, QB/WR Texas A&M
Another gifted athlete, McNeil has tons of potential. A bit on the light side, coming in at about 6-2 195, he has superb speed and quickness, especially at the qb position. For a "raw" qb prospect with his type of athleticism, he runs his progressions well, looking to #2 and #3 if #1 is covered. Another playmaker type that could fill multiple voids with one pick, McNeil has the ability to contribute in a variety of ways. Reggie also took his college snaps as a passer and would probably be the easiest to "coach up" where he to stay at that position. That said, McNeil's mechanics are terrible. He has a Vince Young-type release, but at 6-2, not Young's 6-5. Furthermore, while he possesses a cannon for an arm, his accuracy flat out sucks, and would be the primary hindrance in his development.

3. William Kershaw OLB Maryland
Labeled with the dreaded "tweener" Kershaw's lack of ideal DE size (6-3, 241) puts OLB as the position he will most likely succeed in at the NFL level. Though a bit undersized, he has a constant motor and plays all out till the whistle (not unlike one Zack Thomas). Has quick feet, and attacks the ball-carrier on running plays; very good at disrupting, making the play at the point of attack. His speed (4.68 40) allows him to be successful in backside pursuit. With a combination of good instincts and sideline to sideline speed, he reacts and moves to the ball quickly. He does well in space, able to react well in zone coverage and make a play on the ball. Kershaw allows a bit too much space in man coverage, and would need significant development to prevent being a liability against the league's better TEs. Despite being productive in the college ranks, Kershaw will need to gain about 10 pounds and develop his coverage skills to be an every down LB.




These are some of the possibilities in the 4th. This is not all of them of course, as Saban most likely has some hidden gem out there that can start now and play every game of the season... :lol:

By the way, this is just one mans opinion, and I may (and probably have) left off "your" pick in the 4th. Feel free to add your opinions...










....now :dolphins:

Blitz99
04-30-2006, 09:03 AM
we got 2 get a linebacker in this round coming up

PCHD
04-30-2006, 09:15 AM
I think we need a D.T.=N.T.Some one to spell Traylor.Maybe this gabe watson fellow.Never seen him play but have read many good thing's about him.I just would like to find some one who is hard to move

Rugged Ronnie23
04-30-2006, 09:15 AM
I didnt know Wannstedt was still running our draft

In_Flames
04-30-2006, 09:18 AM
I see Watson or Wright in the 4th IMO...only if they fall to us that is...

Blitz99
04-30-2006, 09:29 AM
did we trade our 6th round pick this year??

D-Fence
04-30-2006, 09:30 AM
We only have a 4th and 3 7th rounders today..

D-Fence
04-30-2006, 09:30 AM
did we trade our 6th round pick this year??

Cleo Lemon for Feeley and a 6th

phinslover
04-30-2006, 09:32 AM
don't forget about Elvis Dumervil from louisville he's gonna be a beast. he's a tweener de/olb

phinsfan1989
04-30-2006, 09:34 AM
darnell bing from usc or ko simpson

Joey 22
04-30-2006, 09:39 AM
darnell bing from usc or ko simpson

Why would we want them having picked Allen?

I want either Mark Anderson or Stanley McClover, or Gabe Watson.

XXXSURTAINXXX
04-30-2006, 09:40 AM
I think we need a D.T.=N.T.Some one to spell Traylor.Maybe this gabe watson fellow.Never seen him play but have read many good thing's about him.I just would like to find some one who is hard to move

I can feel you.. Maybe big Gabe(he seems extremly fat though) But he is young or the NT out of UGA...Gerald Anderson.

XXXSURTAINXXX
04-30-2006, 09:41 AM
Why would we want them having picked Allen?

I want either Mark Anderson or Stanley McClover, or Gabe Watson.

Some are saying Nick picked Allen to play CB. Bing is a true safety. I wouldnt be mad at all with the pick.

Blitz99
04-30-2006, 09:41 AM
Cleo Lemon for Feeley and a 6th

thanks.....

XXXSURTAINXXX
04-30-2006, 09:42 AM
don't forget about Elvis Dumervil from louisville he's gonna be a beast. he's a tweener de/olb

Aint that the guy Marcus Vick stomped on?

Rich L
04-30-2006, 09:43 AM
Cleo Lemon for Feeley and a 6th

Ouch! I totally forgot about the 6th pick we gave up.
We should have traded Feely back to Philly last year!
They could have used him and we would have given up less.:tantrum:

phinslover
04-30-2006, 09:46 AM
:dolphins: :dolphins: :dolphins: yeah then he sacked him i beleive twice after that
Aint that the guy Marcus Vick stomped on?

G-Force
04-30-2006, 09:48 AM
I kie the Dumerville pick. I am happy with what we have on D-line. Manny, Vickerson, Holliday, Traylor, Carter, and JT. Vickerson was a beast and Manny is already receiving playing time and wasn't in the best of shape last year which will change this year. I hope Allen is a safety because with the depth we already have at cb we don't need anymore right now. I say we take the best players available no matter the position.

Motion
04-30-2006, 09:53 AM
Nick Saban did well on the first day of the draft, finding explosive athletes at value spots.

But what does round 4 and 7x3 have in store? Well, the phins have questions at LB and would like a guy who is a good 3-4 edge rusher type, they need to get younger at DT, and could use depth at WR, RB, and QB. So where will round 4 take us?


A couple of ideas:

1. Michael Robinson, QB/RB/WR Penn State
This guy is a pure athlete, with a good combination of size and speed. Has the potential to be a Randel El type guy who is simply a playmaker; the kind of guy that you can get the ball to in a variety of different ways. Saban could potentially add depth to three positions with this one selection. Mularky has a history of developing guys like this in to unique playmakers (i.e. Hines Ward, Randle El, Kordel Stewart). Problem is while Robinson has the ability to play all three positions, he never took many snaps in any one for very long, so it's difficult to project his pro position.

2. Reggie McNeil, QB/WR Texas A&M
Another gifted athlete, McNeil has tons of potential. A bit on the light side, coming in at about 6-2 195, he has superb speed and quickness, especially at the qb position. For a "raw" qb prospect with his type of athleticism, he runs his progressions well, looking to #2 and #3 if #1 is covered. Another playmaker type that could fill multiple voids with one pick, McNeil has the ability to contribute in a variety of ways. Reggie also took his college snaps as a passer and would probably be the easiest to "coach up" where he to stay at that position. That said, McNeil's mechanics are terrible. He has a Vince Young-type release, but at 6-2, not Young's 6-5. Furthermore, while he possesses a cannon for an arm, his accuracy flat out sucks, and would be the primary hindrance in his development.

3. William Kershaw OLB Maryland
Labeled with the dreaded "tweener" Kershaw's lack of ideal DE size (6-3, 241) puts OLB as the position he will most likely succeed in at the NFL level. Though a bit undersized, he has a constant motor and plays all out till the whistle (not unlike one Zack Thomas). Has quick feet, and attacks the ball-carrier on running plays; very good at disrupting, making the play at the point of attack. His speed (4.68 40) allows him to be successful in backside pursuit. With a combination of good instincts and sideline to sideline speed, he reacts and moves to the ball quickly. He does well in space, able to react well in zone coverage and make a play on the ball. Kershaw allows a bit too much space in man coverage, and would need significant development to prevent being a liability against the league's better TEs. Despite being productive in the college ranks, Kershaw will need to gain about 10 pounds and develop his coverage skills to be an every down LB.




These are some of the possibilities in the 4th. This is not all of them of course, as Saban most likely has some hidden gem out there that can start now and play every game of the season... :lol:

By the way, this is just one mans opinion, and I may (and probably have) left off "your" pick in the 4th. Feel free to add your opinions...


I don't think any of them are 4th round options. All would be reaches except possibly McNeal. I look for us to go front 7 personally.

jaxdolfan
04-30-2006, 09:58 AM
Cleo Lemon for Feeley and a 6th

Saban must have really disliked Feeley to give up so much to get rid of him...or Cleo Lemon is a STUD!

Retnuhrace
04-30-2006, 10:15 AM
I think a big DT is a strong possibility in the 4th round. Possibly Gabe Watson, Johnny Jolly, Babatunde Oshinowo, Rod Wright, or even another Tennessee boy in Jesse Mahelona. Possibly a DE/OLB tweener (who'd be a OLB in a 3-4 scheme) like Parys Haralson (another Tennessee guy), Elvis Dumerville, or Stanley McClover. But I would really like to see us take the guard, Max Jean-Gilles, although Saban said that our offensive line was set, which I disagree with. Mark Setterstrom is a another great possiblity at guard. I'd also like to see us take the tackle, Jon Scott. Maybe a QB instead of Harrington? Omar Jacobs would be awesome, although it will not happen. Despite us taking a CB/S already in Jason Allen, guys like Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing would make me happy.

jlfin
04-30-2006, 10:39 AM
I think we need a D.T.=N.T.Some one to spell Traylor.Maybe this gabe watson fellow.Never seen him play but have read many good thing's about him.I just would like to find some one who is hard to move

He's the guy they should be targeting. However, like most big guys he has lapses. When he's on, however, he can be dominant.

Danny
04-30-2006, 10:41 AM
I will not be surprise to see Nick take Simpson or Bing but I think he'd rather take a big DT like Watson or Baba if they're there.....at OLB he could go for Havner tho I don't think he will......if Jean-Gilles is there he could be too good to pass on but I'd think he'll be gone early today......I'm looking for him to go DT or OLB at 114.

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