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Miamifin23
05-01-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm pretty pleased with how our draft went because we got our FS we needed in Allen, and we got a pretty good reciever that could compliment Chambers in a few years. I am questioning the fact that we did not trade up in the 4th round at the start of day 2 to snatch either Darnell Bing or Max-Jean Giles. We still need a SS and Bing would have been a great pick in the 4th. He aside Jason Allen could be pretty scary in a few years. With Giles, you get a run blocking guard that can move just about anybody. He's a Larry Allen kind of build, and would have been a huge pick in the 4th round. All in all I'm still pretty happy with the overall draft but that 4th round will still haunt me for some days to come. What do you think about Bing and Giles?

dominizzo
05-01-2006, 04:31 PM
Noo neeed to I think they did an excellent job Mueller and Saban

MiamiDolphins34
05-01-2006, 04:41 PM
We should have drafted Jon Scott instead of Joe Toledo.

NYPhinFan
05-01-2006, 07:29 PM
And you would have traded up in the 4th round how???????...all we had were 7's left and next years picks. We did fine right where we were.

Roman529
05-01-2006, 08:39 PM
Max-Jean looks like Biz Markie....he is gonna eat himself out of the league. :lol:

Philter25
05-01-2006, 09:15 PM
We should have drafted Jon Scott instead of Joe Toledo.Period.

This baffles me also. Scott would be a solid RT in the NFL. I dont understand what they saw in Toledo instead.....

Montella
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
I'm pretty pleased with how our draft went because we got our FS we needed in Allen, and we got a pretty good reciever that could compliment Chambers in a few years. I am questioning the fact that we did not trade up in the 4th round at the start of day 2 to snatch either Darnell Bing or Max-Jean Giles. We still need a SS and Bing would have been a great pick in the 4th. He aside Jason Allen could be pretty scary in a few years. With Giles, you get a run blocking guard that can move just about anybody. He's a Larry Allen kind of build, and would have been a huge pick in the 4th round. All in all I'm still pretty happy with the overall draft but that 4th round will still haunt me for some days to come. What do you think about Bing and Giles?

yeah, i agree, we could have trade our 4th and a 7th, or 4th and next years 6th to get in the top 5 of the 4th round...

PSU Cane
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Bing is being moved to OLB by Oakland. Many teams didn't think he was fast enough to stay at safety with how big he is, and his lack of coverage skills. Maybe that is why our coaches weren't interested in him. Still a good value at that point though.

Miamifin23
05-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Bing at OLB? Hmm.... Well maybe that answers why the Raiders have such a poor defense.

dlockz
05-02-2006, 12:56 AM
Period.

This baffles me also. Scott would be a solid RT in the NFL. I dont understand what they saw in Toledo instead.....

This is what bothers me about the Toldeo pick with Scott still on the board. Toldeo played one season at tackle and was far from a stud.

Boomer
05-02-2006, 04:38 AM
The upside on Toledo is much higher than that of Scott who's a vastly overrated player.

HysterikiLL
05-02-2006, 05:19 AM
The upside on Toledo is much higher than that of Scott who's a vastly overrated player.

I have to disagree Boom. This guy has 1st round potential and I don't see how going in the 5th round is overrated. His main knock is his lack of aggression and the fact he had a reasonably bad senior season in my eyes. He's still a strong, smart person who has the upside to get much more stronger and physical at the next level.

Boomer
05-02-2006, 05:39 AM
I don't see the first round potential in Scott. He has just flat out awful technique. The guy is a lunger and a waist bender. Watch him play and sometimes he gets it, but when he plays against quick ends he just leaves his feet and plunges and I've seen him get absolutely overpowered and pushed 4/5 yards backwards. He was mediocre at Senior Bowl practices and looked fat when he undressed. You can see him when he's run blocking, he doesn't have football strength and whilst he's athletic, he strikes me as someone who doesn't have what it takes to be a functional starting T in this league.

trate121hb
05-02-2006, 04:10 PM
yeah, i agree, we could have trade our 4th and a 7th, or 4th and next years 6th to get in the top 5 of the 4th round...

we could have????? our you a gm...do you know thats what they wanted...what did philly give up to move up?

trate121hb
05-02-2006, 04:12 PM
The upside on Toledo is much higher than that of Scott who's a vastly overrated player.

agreed...many nfl circles are saying this guy can be special....give me the guy with m ore upside and have houck coach him up...we are all hating on him cause we know scott cause he went to texas, a big school

we dont know squat about toledo...heck i dont even know if he's black or white...although he does sound very white to me

Boomer
05-02-2006, 04:24 PM
He's white. He looks like Matt Leinart with a chubbier face and more hair.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/05/237109-1.jpeg

MiamiMan147
05-02-2006, 04:36 PM
I've posted this before, and I wasn't the first but I can't help bringing this up about our very own "Bluto".

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/05/AnimalGallery2-1.jpg


OVER!!! DID YOU SAY OVER!!! NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE DECIDE IT IS!!!

Incidently this was the soundbite playing over and over on the soundsystem of the bar where I watched the Buffalo comeback.

Springveldt
05-03-2006, 04:32 AM
The upside on Toledo is much higher than that of Scott who's a vastly overrated player.
What about Max-Jean though? I'd have loved to have moved up to get him.

kpcane
05-04-2006, 05:38 PM
I hope Saban knows something I don't.

I think if we had a need at WR, Stovall was a safer choice in the 3rd. I hope Hagan gets his act together, because we do not need another receiver who drops passes. But I think Ricky's suspension influenced the decision to get a legit 3rd receiver. But then again, we did just get an all-pro fullback, and we have a great TE, so I guess Hagan was just Saban's BPA. I thought we should've gotten Gilles in the 3rd round, and when he was available in the 4th I thought we should have traded up too, but didn't think we had enough ammo.

Saban's system of getting the BPA is frustrating sometimes (really wanted Manny Lawson) but hopefully he's doing the right thing for the team long-term.

NorFlaFin
05-04-2006, 06:05 PM
Max-Jean looks like Biz Markie....he is gonna eat himself out of the league. :lol:


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