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Gonzo
05-15-2006, 05:08 PM
Again, I will warn you, this is extremely graphic, so if you are still having a rough time with this, I highly suggest you do not watch it.

To me, Oliver Stone is hit or miss. I loved Platoon and Any Given Sunday, hated Alexander. Actually, Alexander is the only movie of his that I really hated. Anyways, this looks incredible and Michael Pena is becoming one of my favorite actors (awesome in Crash).

My girlfriend's dad worked this set as well. His friend own's a company that supplies movie sets with firefighting equipment and real firefighters as extras.

You must have quicktime:
http://trailer.uip.de/worldtradecenter/trailer_full.html

Edit: Here is a link to where you can choose the format. Pretty limited right now though.
http://trailer.uip.de/worldtradecenter/trailer.html

Roman529
05-15-2006, 05:13 PM
Hey Luther, I clicked on it but I just got a big box with a red x in it. :(

Gonzo
05-15-2006, 05:16 PM
Hey Luther, I clicked on it but I just got a big box with a red x in it. :(
do you have quicktime?

ih8brady
05-15-2006, 05:28 PM
looks good from a movie point of view, though can the guy who made JFK keep 911 non-political? Will there be a disclaimer at the end saying that America deserved/responsible for it? Should definitely be better than that cheap 24 episode they threw togather with amateurs and called it "United 93". :rolleyes:

Roman529
05-15-2006, 05:29 PM
do you have quicktime?

I am at the library. :sidelol:

ih8brady
05-15-2006, 05:33 PM
Again, I will warn you, this is extremely graphic, so if you are still having a rough time with this, I highly suggest you do not watch it.

To me, Oliver Stone is hit or miss. I loved Platoon and Any Given Sunday, hated Alexander. Actually, Alexander is the only movie of his that I really hated. Anyways, this looks incredible and Michael Pena is becoming one of my favorite actors (awesome in Crash).

My girlfriend's dad worked this set as well. His friend own's a company that supplies movie sets with firefighting equipment and real firefighters as extras.

You must have quicktime:
http://trailer.uip.de/worldtradecenter/trailer_full.html

Edit: Here is a link to where you can choose the format. Pretty limited right now though.
http://trailer.uip.de/worldtradecenter/trailer.html

I thought Any Given Sunday was a ridiculous compleation of hyperbole and cliche but Born on the Fourth of July was great(it takes a lot of talent for a director to get a great performance out of Tom Cruise :wink: ).

Gonzo
05-15-2006, 05:38 PM
looks good from a movie point of view, though can the guy who made JFK keep 911 non-political? Will there be a disclaimer at the end saying that America deserved/responsible for it? Should definitely be better than that cheap 24 episode they threw togather with amateurs and called it "United 93". :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: I highly doubt he would show the amount of emotion he did in that and end it by saying they deserved it. And I really don't see a connection to JFK.

Gonzo
05-15-2006, 05:40 PM
I thought Any Given Sunday was a ridiculous compleation of hyperbole and cliche but Born on the Fourth of July was great(it takes a lot of talent for a director to get a great performance out of Tom Cruise :wink: ).

I'd be hardpressed to find a movie in the recent past that isn't and just about every war movie is too.

Slappy8800
05-15-2006, 06:26 PM
if only i spoke german

Timmy54
05-15-2006, 06:32 PM
looks good from a movie point of view, though can the guy who made JFK keep 911 non-political? Will there be a disclaimer at the end saying that America deserved/responsible for it? Should definitely be better than that cheap 24 episode they threw togather with amateurs and called it "United 93". :rolleyes:

not to get into a political war but how can you say that anyone deserves a suprise attack against citizens. It is one thing to sneak attack military targets (Japan could have taken out the toursit area of hawaii but only attack the military base and ships) but it is a totally different story hitting downtown areas and kill every day people. No one deserves terrorism, that is plain wrong.:shakeno:

Prime Time
05-15-2006, 06:47 PM
Looks like a good movie. Should be a very emotional movie.

Dolphin1184
05-15-2006, 07:29 PM
not to get into a political war but how can you say that anyone deserves a suprise attack against citizens. It is one thing to sneak attack military targets (Japan could have taken out the toursit area of hawaii but only attack the military base and ships) but it is a totally different story hitting downtown areas and kill every day people. No one deserves terrorism, that is plain wrong.:shakeno:

You completely misread brady's post. Brady is concerned with them putting politics in the movie. He was not saying he believes anyone deserves a suprise attack. He is wondering " can the guy who made JFK keep 911 non-political".

Timmy54
05-15-2006, 07:57 PM
even if that was his meaning, i didnt like the way he put it. i wouldnt ever think a film maker would make that statement at the end of a film but somebody online you never know.

ih8brady
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
:rolleyes: I highly doubt he would show the amount of emotion he did in that and end it by saying they deserved it. And I really don't see a connection to JFK.

I was getting at that JFK was a political movie with support for conspiracy theories, will Stone pull that with this? I hope not b/c he does have talent as a director and I'd like to see a 1st rate drama on the event. I hope Stone is honest:

No Politics for Stone
31 January 2006 (WENN) (http://imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-01-31#celeb5)
Oliver Stone (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000231/) has hit out at reports his new film will have a political agenda, insisting it will focus on two or three American civilians' fight for survival. Stone's film, which has been given the working title of World Trade Center (http://imdb.com/title/tt0469641/), will feature Hollywood actor Nicolas Cage (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000115/) in the lead role. The movie-maker has courted controversy in the past with politically-charged Vietnam war films such as Platoon (http://imdb.com/title/tt0091763/) and Born On The Fourth Of July (http://imdb.com/title/tt0096969/). He says, "This is not about the motives of the terrorists, or who the terrorists were, or the politics of 9/11 in any way. This film is the story of two guys trapped inside, and their families on the outside. It's a no-nonsense, austere, verite document of what they went through in those 24 hours, a procedural, and it should be shot like that."


http://imdb.com/name/nm0000231/news

P.S.: My :rolleyes: was at the movie United 93.

ih8brady
05-15-2006, 08:11 PM
even if that was his meaning, i didnt like the way he put it. i wouldnt ever think a film maker would make that statement at the end of a film but somebody online you never know.

That's exactly what I meant, I don't support fundamentalism or terrorism but Stone has made, IMO, outrageous comments on 911 likening it to the French Revolution. Hopefully, the movie will avoid such crap.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0386899/news

Oliver Stone's Terrorist Stance Angers Columnist
18 October 2001 (WENN) (http://imdb.com/news/wenn/2001-10-18#celeb5)
Director Oliver Stone (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000231/) has sparked media fury by making "incendiary" comments about the September 11th terror attacks on America. The iconoclastic filmmaker is well known for his left-wing political stance and taste for conspiracy theories, but his controversial views often provoke anger. On October 7th, while appearing on a panel sponsored by the New York Film Festival, Stone infuriated a co-panelist so much the man started calling him names. Vanity Fair columnist Christopher Hitchens (http://imdb.com/name/nm0386899/) went semi-ballistic after Stone called the terrorist attacks a "revolt", and cited media conglomerates as having helped provoke the massacre. An angry Hitchens attacked Stone's comments, saying, "Excuse me? Revolt? It was state-sponsored mass murder, using civilians as missiles. To say that this attack in any way resembles the French Revolution means you are a moral idiot, as well as an intellectual idiot. The man has completely lost it." Later Stone cryptically added, "Does anybody make a connection between the 2000 election and the events of September 11th? Look for the thirteenth month!"

Gonzo
05-15-2006, 08:22 PM
I was getting at that JFK was a political movie with support for conspiracy theories, will Stone pull that with this? I hope not b/c he does have talent as a director and I'd like to see a 1st rate drama on the event. I Stone is honest:


http://imdb.com/name/nm0000231/news

He also stressed that JFK was a work of fiction. Conspiracy theories can be entertaining. As for this movie, everything I have read and been told about it show that it is focused on the people affected at ground zero with little room for politics. I don't think a Vietnam movie can avoid including politics. 9/11 was a completely different thing. Yes, there are consipracy theories (and not the intriguing kind as mentioned above) This, IMO is addressing a completely different tragedy.


Whats funny to me is that people are actually more concerned about what opinions a filmmaker presents rather than concerns that are more warranted, such as whether it is too soon, etc. People seem to be more concerned about whether their political parties are made to look bad rather than the emotional state of the families involved.