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DrAstroZoom
04-10-2003, 04:04 PM
Admins, please leave this stuck for awhile before moving it to Complaints, Suggestions, etc.There has been a fair amount of controversy over the latest amendment to the board's TOS:

For FinHeaven & Co to make this a message board appropriate for any age group and gender, we have decided that there should be a restriction on the amount of skin shown in some of the pictures that are shown in posts, signatures, and avatars. While generally pictures of women are allowed, please try to use your own judgment on what should and should not be posted. Keep the skin limited, and refrain from using thongs, etc.

Keeping in mind the best interests of users, the pressure on administrators and mentors and concerns over freedom of expression, please take a minute to answer this question.

Results are completely unscientific and will not obligate Finheaven.com to change its policy in any way.

inFINSible
04-10-2003, 04:09 PM
Question.....would "partial" nudity include thongs?

Amars
04-10-2003, 04:10 PM
I hope not. I love women in thongs.

DrAstroZoom
04-10-2003, 04:14 PM
No ... I'm talking exposure of nipples, toplessness, bottomlessness, etc.

A thong is not nudity.

WeVie
04-10-2003, 04:29 PM
I'm a little confused about all this issue. Althought I have only been a member of this board for a few months I have never seen anything bad at all. So what is someone has a woman in a thong. Are we not all adults here?(Or at least teenage guys) Yes, I know there are some women here as well but have they ever complained? It's not like there are any five or six year old childern on here are they?

Someone please tell me what the big deal is

inFINSible
04-10-2003, 04:31 PM
I'm not sure of the numbers but there are children under 13 registered here....AJ could be more specific.

FinHeavenAJ
04-10-2003, 05:19 PM
If everyone entered their birthdays, there would be anywhere between 25-60 thirteen year olds. About 20 of those I would conisder an active member...

iceblizzard69
04-10-2003, 06:06 PM
I don't think it is a big deal for 13 year olds to be looking at thongs to be honest. I was looking at more explicit pictures when I was 9. I don't think there are any kids on this board who haven't seen a girl with a thong. I voted for option 3.

SWS84
04-10-2003, 06:27 PM
Although I do appreciate pictures of women, especially beautiful women, I think since this is a dolphin board we should stick to pictures of our dolphin cheerleaders.

Steve

Kamikaze
04-10-2003, 06:35 PM
There are some parents out there that would consider images of scantily clad women as pornography. However, I would also place blame on those very parents for letting their child on the Internet without any supervision. So although I understand AJ might be trying to save his ass from an angry email, I think we take enough **** from Bills fans here that such an email would be child's play. I say we keep the pictures up, since most of us agree that they're not pornographic. Hell, so long as nothing posted can be legally considered pornographic, we really have nothing to fear.

However, AJ I do suggest you place a limit on how large a signature picture should be. The 56K users can't like it when they have to wait for a page to load cause a couple guys want to post some high res pictures of a cute little hunny. inFINSible's picture would be perfectly fine, but SuavePhin's might be just a bit too big. Don't get me wrong though, LeAnn has grown up into quite a woman. ;)

fin-atic
04-10-2003, 07:09 PM
This forum is predominantly male. Predominantly adult.

All the reactions I have seen to pics of babes has been very positive and fun. If no one likes it then they should "tune in" elsewhere.

The rule should be if you see it commonly on most beaches and streets then it should be allowed here. Swinsuits, tanktops, thongs, etc are permissable. Bare breast, sex, etc is not.

DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR FUN!

Let the kiddies log on to Nickelodean.

baccarat
04-10-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by fin-atic

The rule should be if you see it commonly on most beaches and streets then it should be allowed here. Swinsuits, tanktops, thongs, etc are permissable. Bare breast, sex, etc is not.

DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR FUN!


:drinkers: I'm with you 100% on that statement.

dolfan87
04-10-2003, 08:21 PM
While I love looking at the girls, I don't personally see the relevance in it all. This is a Dolphins forums, and so I understand the cheerleaders, and I personally feel that it should be limited to our lovely ladies in aqua.

But that is just my opinion. ;)

87

WharfRat
04-10-2003, 08:41 PM
OK... time for my two cents...

I personally see nothing wrong with posting pics of women...as long as it is relatively tasteful, and not showing "complete" nudity. The reason I even suggest that ANY line be drawn.. is the legality. I would hate to see FH fined, or shut down simply because peeps got carried away...

That said.. I think most sigs and avs that have been used should be acceptable... so the honor system should work... as long as we use good judgement, there is no reason why we can't police ourselves as we have been.

A size limit may not be a bad idea though...

IceStorm
04-10-2003, 10:12 PM
Well, say what you want to. But this is a message board about football. This isn't some immature little boy message board about who's got the best picture of some woman that wouldn't even recognize their existance.

Again, if thats what people want then thats fine. But then this place becomes less about the Dolphins and more about something that 1000000 other message boards are doing.

If it's voted that its ok, then make them have size requirements. I like this board and I'd rather not have to go elsewhere to talk about the Miami Dolphins.

WharfRat
04-10-2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by IceStorm
Well, say what you want to. But this is a message board about football. This isn't some immature little boy message board about who's got the best picture of some woman that wouldn't even recognize their existance.

Again, if thats what people want then thats fine. But then this place becomes less about the Dolphins and more about something that 1000000 other message boards are doing.

If it's voted that its ok, then make them have size requirements. I like this board and I'd rather not have to go elsewhere to talk about the Miami Dolphins.

Ice... you're absolutely right.. this is a Dolphins fan board first and foremost...

However... in such a forum, the testosterone levels are generally pretty high.. so you should expect some "girlie pics" and ogling...
That said... I agree it should not become a competition over the best pic...and I hope it doesn't, it hasn't so far IMO
I also agree with the size restriction.. for any pic in your signature.... the folks who use dial up to connect shouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for someone's pic to load...

I will certainly talk to AJ about it and see if we can come up with something that's fair....

WeVie
04-10-2003, 10:26 PM
I do like the idea of the size requirements because I among others are on dial-up and when you have ten posts and eight of them has a huge picture on them it takes about a minute or so to load the whole page but I have seen nothing wrong with any picture yet. As long as no one gos overboard and starts posting nudity pictures and I think that we are all a little more grown up so that.

SkapePhin
04-10-2003, 10:44 PM
Is there any way to reduce size with out actually resizing the pic in a program then uploading it again?? I think they did for me over at the Buffalorange.com boards...

Its sort of like making text bold.. but I am not sure how it was done..

And is my Sigpic too big?

Kamikaze
04-11-2003, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by SkapePhin
Is there any way to reduce size with out actually resizing the pic in a program then uploading it again?? I think they did for me over at the Buffalorange.com boards...

Its sort of like making text bold.. but I am not sure how it was done..

And is my Sigpic too big?

You can reduce the size the picture takes up on the screen, but it will still take just as long to load it, since the file size remains the same. If you want to reduce the file size you have to do so in a program and upload it again. And IMO, I think anything over 250x250 is too big, and yours is 600x467.

Also, an overview of my suggestions.

1.) I too would prefer fewer of the scantily clad babes, as this is a Dolphins board, not the Maxim board. We also must be mindful of our female members (I know you're out there). However I don't mind seeing them, so I could care less either way.

2.) Definitely place a limit on the file size of signature pictures as well as their resolution. I don't think under 30KB and 250x250 is too much to ask.

3.) Only one sig picture at a time. Multiple pictures would definitely exceed 30KB.

4.) Never, ever convert this site to Flash, AJ. As snazzy as it is, whenever I am forced to use 56K I cringe at the thought of being forced to view a site with Flash.

RHoffman
04-11-2003, 08:48 AM
use pretty good judgement with what is posted in terms of women...

I thought the photo of Vida Guerra was pretty creative and most definitely sexy...

However, I can certainly understand the concern with younger viewership...

Honestly, though...I'm not sure that anyone would see anything different by walking in a mall and seeing a Victoria Secret Image in the window.

A tough issue...good luck A.J.

DrAstroZoom
04-11-2003, 09:39 AM
So ... the people have spoken. Thanks to the mods for letting this discussion bloom!

So ... when does Vida return?!?

fin-atic
04-11-2003, 09:43 AM
Why is this an issue? It never has been. Are we causing it to be an issue just out of "fear of what COULD happen?"

I say leave it alone until it is an issue. I have not seen anything that crossess the boundaries of nudity, and I am not aware of any negative posts regarding images. We are bunkering for a storm that may never hit.

If someone goes to far or if there starts to be complaints, then let us address it.

But I was in the store last night and thought of this subject. I was looking at the magazine selection and prominently displayed for ALL to see was Maxim, FHM, etc with more explicit images than I see here. I had to laugh. I am a prent of three kids and I have no worry about what is on here. This site is constructed for the majority who don't have a problem with it. We can't be all things to all people. Anyone who does nto like th content can go elsewhere. But the majority are happy with the way things are.

Really, this is a trivial thing. I can tell it is off season.

I say kill this bill in Congress and lets get back to the Fins.

FinHeavenAJ
04-11-2003, 09:45 AM
The bill was killed two days ago...

Hellion
04-11-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by IceStorm
Well, say what you want to. But this is a message board about football. This isn't some immature little boy message board about who's got the best picture of some woman that wouldn't even recognize their existance.

Again, if thats what people want then thats fine. But then this place becomes less about the Dolphins and more about something that 1000000 other message boards are doing.

If it's voted that its ok, then make them have size requirements. I like this board and I'd rather not have to go elsewhere to talk about the Miami Dolphins.

Hmmm, me thinks IceStorm just don't like look'in at da women?:sceptic: :foundout: :jawdrop:
:jk:

Hey I can't even figure out how to put pics in my sig. but I don't mind looking at the ladies, most of them are in good taste and it dosen't distract me from the point of the post.

I voted for #3

:topic: You know you could almost carry on a whole conversation with smilies if you could fit enough on the post?
I vote we need a smilie that gives the finger.

Justasportsfan
04-11-2003, 10:33 AM
When Vida's picture was still there, I smacked less and less. Like I said before it's hard to type with one hand. Now that her picture is gone........ :D

So you see, not having pictures of women causes visitors to smack because there's nothing else to do.

dolfan06
04-11-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by ronnie_augs
I hope not. I love women in thongs. thats what the "depths of the sea" is for in the smack forum.

i voted for number 2, women are here to stay, so they should be allowed to be posted in sigs, but total or partial nudity is out!;)

Mac Divot
04-11-2003, 03:35 PM
I agree with Iceman. And I dig women an all that, but I can go anywhere on the web to find that. Actually all I have to do is go to the mall, there are plenty of LIVE squeezys there. Here I wana see Dolphin football only please.

Kamikaze
04-11-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by justafan
When Vida's picture was still there, I smacked less and less. Like I said before it's hard to type with one hand. Now that her picture is gone........ :D

So you see, not having pictures of women causes visitors to smack because there's nothing else to do.

More WHACK! Less SMACK! :D

MightyMosDurf74
04-12-2003, 12:15 PM
Dolphins Forum = Dolphins ONLY...therefore---Dolphins Cheerleaders.

harmonkoz
05-08-2003, 02:48 PM
Who made this poll? The option I would choose is not listed. :nono:

DrAstroZoom
05-08-2003, 02:53 PM
Harmon ... that would be me. The issue seems to have gone away, but what was your thought?

harmonkoz
05-08-2003, 03:05 PM
I think after reading the poll again, I would agree with option 2... It just reads very rough. I think the generally verbage confused me.

I love beautiful women. However I think there is a place for it... If you want to look at the really suggestive stuff, there are many places to do that on the net and I do not think finheaven should become one of them. I see nothing wrong with thongs bikini and the such, hell just watch watch TV... Some of the videos on MTV these days... Thirteen yearolds see stuff like that everyday.

I would say anything goes other than nudity of any kind or pictures depicting sexual acts, hate crimes, etc.

DrAstroZoom
05-08-2003, 03:09 PM
And that seems to be the consensus. :)

harmonkoz
05-08-2003, 03:09 PM
But I do not think I would use 'Woman'... thats being kind of sexist isnt it? I would just flat out say no nudity of any kind.